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Date: Tue. May. 27 2008 2:05 PM ET
Prime Minister Stephen Harper says he has no reason to believe anyone planted electronic bugs in the home of disgraced former foreign minister Maxime Bernier's ex-girlfriend.
"I have absolutely no information to suggest that's true," he told reporters in Paris on Tuesday, reacting to a question about the allegation by Julie Couillard.
In an interview with Quebec's TVA network broadcast on Monday, Couillard said experts had checked her home and told her that listening devices had been installed and removed.
"Apparently, there were some (listening devices) in the boxspring of the mattress in my bedroom," she said in the interview.
Harper said, "The government of Canada does not intend to get into the business of investigating private citizens."
The prime minister also said there have been no expressions of alarm from NATO partners over the security breach that led to Bernier's resignation.
"Right now, we have no information that secrets were (revealed)," he said.
He insisted Bernier's resignation had nothing to do with the former minister's relationship with Couillard, who had links to the biker underworld as recently as 2005.
The documents -- relating to the early April NATO summit in Bucharest, Romania -- contained classified and secret information, sources tell CTV.
Thomas Mulcair, the NDP's deputy leader, told CTV Newsnet that Harper will have to explain the contents of the documents when he returns from Europe. Harper declined to answer questions about the documents' contents.
"Classified documents are classified, and I do not discuss classified documents," Harper said in Paris.
Robert Fife, CTV's Ottawa bureau chief, told Canada AM earlier on Tuesday that it's likely the RCMP will be asked to investigate the extent of the breach.
"We don't know what other secrets and cabinet documents he shared with this woman (Julie Couillard)," he said.
Some politicians called for such an investigation.
On Monday, NDP Leader Jack Layton told reporters: "Only a police force can sort through the kind of allegations and statements that are emerging here.
"All of these add up to the need for someone who's going to be arm's length, dispassionate and concerned about the public interest to get to the bottom of it," he said.
Harper announced Bernier's resignation hours before Quebec's TVA network broadcast an interview with Couillard, during which she recounted finding the papers.
Fife said Couillard didn't have the security clearance necessary to have those documents in her possession.
"(Bernier) is not to share any top-secret information with anyone unless they have the same security clearance as he does, and clearly Ms. Couillard does not," Fife said.
This scandal could blacken Canada's reputation with its allies, a security analyst told Canada AM.
They will be saying, "'What's going on over there? Can we share information with these guys?'" former CSIS agent Michel Juneau-Katsuya told Canada AM on Tuesday.
However, Joe Clark a former prime minister and external affairs minister in the Brian Mulroney era, told Canada AM that the test is in the response.
"What the world will note is that when a problem arose, it was addressed," he said.
The prime minister appointed International Trade Minister David Emerson as the interim foreign affairs minister. Clark praised Emerson's abilities, saying he has a "clear understanding of domestic and international affairs" and should be considered for the post on a permanent basis.
Bernier: A troubled minister
Bernier is a 45-year-old rookie MP who became foreign affairs minister in an August 2007 cabinet shuffle.
Michael Byers, a professor of international law at the University of British Columbia, told Canada AM that the foreign affairs minister is the country's most senior diplomat and should be someone of "great gravitas who speaks to the most serious issues in a reasonable and responsible way.
"Maxime Bernier hasn't lived up to those credentials," he said.
Here are some of Bernier's other gaffes:
- He promised the use of a C-17 military cargo plane to take helicopters to Thailand for cyclone relief work in Burma, but one wasn't available. Ottawa had to spend almost $1 million to rent a Russian aircraft.
- At the tail end of a visit to Afghanistan, Bernier let it slip to reporters that he thought Asadullah Khalid, governor of Kandahar province, should be replaced.
- He confused the name of Haiti's current president with the previous one on a trip to the Caribbean country.
- Harper left Bernier behind on some recent foreign trips, although he took along other ministers.
- Bernier often sat in his seat during recent question periods as other ministers were called upon to speak on foreign affairs issues.
The Liberals had been calling for his dismissal in recent days.
"Why should the government have to keep cleaning up after this minister? Wouldn't it just be easier to get rid of him?" asked Deputy Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff in question period on Monday.
Conservative House Leader Peter Van Loan said Bernier "had been showing considerable leadership on the world stage." But when Harper had been asked earlier Monday at a news conference whether he still had confidence in Bernier, he wouldn't answer the question.
Many observers predicted Bernier would be moved to another portfolio if Harper shuffled his cabinet again this summer.
Harper told a news conference Monday that Bernier's fate is a warning to other members of cabinet.
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.



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Allan Eizinas
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Having any government in power for 13 years is not healthy for a democracy. With the Liberals in power for those years, there were very few individuals from the other parties who had experience in government. It certainly shows in the weakness of the Harper cabinet.
Dennis L. Krahn
said
MPs: there are a lot of real issues that need attention in this country,enough of all your whining, snivelling, back stabbing crap; do the job that we hired you to do.
Jan
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Election Time?
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I say the latter is probably a good bet.
ET
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dwayne-ottawa
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Shawn E
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"We don't know what other secrets and cabinet documents he shared with this woman (Julie Couillard),"
I highly doubt he Ex-Minister purposefully took documents to his girlfriends house to 'share' them with her. My guess is he was headed home from the office and decided to stop by for a little nookie run and absentmindedly left the papers behind. By no means an excuse, but at least he's gone... all in all a gross embarrassment to the conservatives, but an even bigger one to Canada. And while I don't think it deserves a witch-hunt, it does require more investigation.
This government is really starting to get dog-eared and fade... it's only a shame that this sort of minority government is likely to be the rule, and NOT the exception for a long while. There's simply no truly national party anymore, and those that purport to be one are only kidding themselves. and certainly no one party is in any position of trust or competence to run a majority. So for now let's hope that Harper can start assigning more competent Ministers.
Joe C
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Turkey Farmer
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And we're all complicit because we keep going back to the voting booth to make a "choice" in the hope that somebody will do their job properly.
Stop voting - it only encourages them.
Ian from N.B.
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John
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Steve
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Mike
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Sonny
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For weeks the Conservatives stated that it was a private matter...
The opposition were right to ask questions because in the end Bernier's ex provided information that would indicate that he could not handle classified documents and was in fact a security issue.
James
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GTA
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RH
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Lesley
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Davis
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Helen
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Trent
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I would not disagree with an inquiry into this if this is what popular opinion is on the subject but I am quite confident it will simply be a waste of another few million bucks with no positive outcome.
Brad
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Scott
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Daryn
said
Then off Harper goes to Europe.
Yeah, who the heck is going to buy that.
hoping
said
Will we ever have a govt. that the only bad thing we can say is, it's boring but it's doing its job. I'm hoping.
Dale Wilson
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Wayne
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JCritty
said
All of the people who post here saying "Resignation accepted, move on" are the exact same posters who rage about the Liberal sponsorship scandal.
Suddenly we're very willing to forgive, aren't we?
tim
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Mad as Hell
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Lorne
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The individual is entitled to a private life and some extra cirricular activity, after a stressful day at the office.
However, the following questions should be asked:
1. Why did he take the files with him and not leave them at the office?
2. I note that their relationship had problems and she was considered an ex-girlfriend.
Did he take the file to possibly provide some confidential information to get back in her good books and restore the relationship? Love is blind.
3.How many more confidential files were provided to her over the course of this love affair?
4. Why did she agree to an interview to tell all? Did she want 15 minutes of fame?
The opposition has full right to demand an RCMP investigation and Mr. Harper should have done something weeks ago, as Mr. Bernier did create several problems for the Government during his tenure.
Hopefully, no information was obtained by subversive parties, but it sure questions our ability to keep information confidential.
pdm
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dwayne-ottawa
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S.D LOUNIS
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JCritty
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All of the people who post here saying "Resignation accepted, move on" are the exact same posters who rage about the Liberal sponsorship scandal.
Suddenly we're very willing to forgive, aren't we?
tim
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Mad as Hell
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Lorne
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The individual is entitled to a private life and some extra cirricular activity, after a stressful day at the office.
However, the following questions should be asked:
1. Why did he take the files with him and not leave them at the office?
2. I note that their relationship had problems and she was considered an ex-girlfriend.
Did he take the file to possibly provide some confidential information to get back in her good books and restore the relationship? Love is blind.
3.How many more confidential files were provided to her over the course of this love affair?
4. Why did she agree to an interview to tell all? Did she want 15 minutes of fame?
The opposition has full right to demand an RCMP investigation and Mr. Harper should have done something weeks ago, as Mr. Bernier did create several problems for the Government during his tenure.
Hopefully, no information was obtained by subversive parties, but it sure questions our ability to keep information confidential.
pdm
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dwayne-ottawa
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S.D LOUNIS
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Steve in Aylmer
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By all accounts this is a big story. Its speaks of our governments confidence within NATO, it speaks of possible security breaches,...you don't just move on because someone resigned.
This needs to be flushed out and you better believe a plan to repair the damage on all fronts is being played out in the back scenes of our parliament...trust me...not everyone is "moving on". The resignation...(firing)
was the first move by the Conservatives to regain confidence.
Gilles
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[They will be saying, "'What's going on over there? Can we share information with these guys?'" former CSIS agent Michel Juneau-Katsuya told Canada AM on Tuesday.]
What about asking current US president the same question over Iraq weapon of massive destruction. I would not loose any sleep over Canada’s reputation. This is simply ping pong politic. Shame on them.
Randy Lott
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Scott Curda
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The Conservative Party ran on the platform that they had a higher standard of ethics than the Liberals. That is starting to feel like one more broken election promise
Jay
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Rick
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I'd make this bet!!
TC
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TP
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A dedicated public servant
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It's the public who voted him as MP. When it comes to security matters, such as (for example) an MP getting involved with someone who had ties with the Hell's Angels, it becomes a public matter!
I am a public servant and I have to go through regular security screenings every 5 to 10 years, and this includes security screening of my common-law partner as well as my parents and siblings. How come a so-called ''leader'' doesn't have to????
MRC
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John
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ance
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indifference...
denial...
Is there anyone in Ottawa who actually cares about running the country (beyond the getting elected part)?
Just a hint to the Government - Doing the business of the country for the good of all citizens is considerably easier when your hands are not so busy covering your collective a*s.
Alexandria
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Alexander
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You're all foolish.
This is a matter of National Security. Canadians deserve to know exactly what information was left at Julie Couillard's house and the allegations she's made about being bugged MUST be investigated.
The way Harper has handled all of this makes me believe there's more to this story than we know.
Wendy
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Roger T
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Dissilusioned from Canada
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Because they don't have the guts to boycott an election, that's why.
If all Canadians refused to go to an election booth ... not even show up ... wouldn't it be strange to see all the Election Broadcast showing 0% at all the voting regions? I'd love to see the faces on all the broadcasters when '0' keeps appearing. That would be a first in Canada and would signal to the world that Canadians have the guts to let their government know they are not pleased with what they're doing.
I for one will avoid elections and do my part. What about you?
Art
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DavidL
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Dissilusioned from Canada
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Maxime Bernier's private life IS public's business!!!
It's the public who voted him as MP. When it comes to security matters, such as (for example) an MP getting involved with someone who had ties with the Hell's Angels, it becomes a public matter!
I am a public servant and I have to go through regular security screenings every 5 to 10 years, and this includes security screening of my common-law partner as well as my parents and siblings. How come a so-called ''leader'' doesn't have to????
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You're absolutely correct 'A dedicated Public Servant'. Each one of us has to fill out a form about many of our close relatives in order to keep our Security Clearances ... why not our MPs? We are not even supposed to keep 'classified documents' on our desk if we leave our desks ... even if it is for a few minutes. We have to cover up 'classified documents' when someone comes to our desk .. so why did this guy leave his 'classified docs' (not even on his desk or in his briefcase) but at his girlfriend's place ... wow! I would have been fired and raked over hot coals for that.
To those who say 'move on', you've absolutely no knowledge of what you are saying ... stay off the comments until you educate yourself more.
No NATIONAL party left to vote for anymore.
Wonder if any past USA President would be up for the move and apply for the job of PM?????
Dami Schwartz
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Tom
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This one is really exposing Harper's true character.
RM
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criminal cons
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d edwards
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Steve G
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Conservative supporters may not have the market cornered when it comes to hypocrisy, but they certainly are majority shareholders.
Stephanie
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Zach
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Davis
said
Amen! - why anyone would enter the political arena, regardless of the party, in this day and age is beyond me. You people are shameful. Get a life!
FreakAlert
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C.Simpson
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oscar1
said
The conservatives are simply showing their inability to run a government we just have to wait them out, only a naive person would believe they could survive the next election.
Dan from Toronto.
said
This government has to start accepting responsibility for their actions and at least make an honest effort at correcting their mistakes.
Bring back Preston Manning. Even he was more open and transparent that Harper.
Steve
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Iain Macfarlane
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Sonny
said
So who is going to be at the 400th birthday of Quebec City?
Wally
said
The documents that she acknowledges reading and having possession of contained classified info. about a War that Canadian soldiers are currently fighting. Yes folks, this country is currently at War.
Should we just move on to more important matters as some suggest? I think this matter is important enough as the life of our son and the sons of others may just have been made less secure.
I am disgusted with those who for partisan political reasons just want to move on and get over it. SHAME on you!