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Date: Wed. May. 28 2008 8:17 PM ET

Prime Minister Stephen Harper, in a speech at the UN Convention on Biological Diversity Wednesday, praised Canada for going to great lengths to protect the environment.

The conference, in Bonn, Germany, is focused on the battle to protect species and their habitat around the world.

"As the heirs to this natural endowment, we understand that it is merely on loan, passed onto us from previous generations to safeguard for the generations yet to come,'' said Harper.

"Canada has gone to great lengths to protect and preserve our rich and diverse environment, and in our country this is not just a government enterprise. We are partnered with many private individuals, corporations and non-governmental organizations dedicated to environmental philanthropy."

Harper touted Canada's achievements in conserving more than 200,000 hectares of ecologically significant lands in Canada.

He also said Canada has protected three million hectares of ocean waters and 10 per cent of its land mass -- an area greater than the size of France and Germany combined.

"These large protected areas include famous national parks like Banff, Fundy, Gros Morne, and Nahanni, of which our government announced a significant expansion last summer," said Harper.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel also spoke at the conference and, like Harper, was presented with an award recognizing her nation's contribution to the protection of biodiversity.

Merkel told the conference she had promised US$788 million to combat deforestation between 2009-2012, with a further US788 million available every year thereafter.

Climate Change

Harper also used the forum to push Canada's strategy to combat climate change.

"We have vowed to get past the empty rhetoric and to take real action to require Canadian industry to make real reductions in greenhouse gas emissions," he said.

CTV's Roger Smith said Harper's talk about getting past the "empty rhetoric" appeared to be a shot at some of the European leaders is meeting with on his tour.

"The Europeans are really pressing Canada and the United States... to stick with the Kyoto process -- which requires developed countries to do more first to cut greenhouse gases," CTV's Roger Smith reported Wednesday from Bonn.

"Canada and the U.S. argue that it's meaningless to have any agreements unless big emitters like China and India are included."

The prime minister's trip, which kicked off in Paris on Tuesday, comes in advance of July's G8 Summit in Japan.

Environmental groups have been critical of Ottawa's decision to use 2006, not 1990, as the base year for emissions reduction.

Canada has also been criticized for failing to set absolute targets for the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions.

Next, Harper will visit Italy and then the U.K. -- where he'll meet with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and Queen Elizabeth.

Harper's trip follows the recent resignation of Maxime Bernier as foreign affairs minister. All of the questions for Harper at Tuesday's press conference were about Bernier.

However, the prime minister did receive a warm welcome on Wednesday from President of the European Commission Jose Manuel Barroso.

"You are losing some weight!" remarked Barroso. "You look more elegant."

With a report from CTV's Roger Smith and files from The Canadian Press

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Adrian (McGill University)
said

One day, when I'm eating genetically modified chicken out of a can, I will look back with utter disdain at the baby boomer generation. Your selfish rule will come to an end soon enough, and it will be up to us younger generations to clean up your despicable mess.

Mike Webster
said

A silly argument would be pushing for Government of Canada to wreck our economy for the sake of eliminating barely enough GHG emissions to account for a handful of the new coal fired power plants that China is building. Mr. Harper is exactly right on this issue. Any agreement such as Kyoto that doesn't apply to everyone is patently unfair and should be opposed. That's Kyoto's fatal flaw and that's what makes it less about the environment and more about being a social program of sorts for the third world.


Captialism is killing us
said

Well said to Jame's comment above.

Here's my comment, I think this is dull that we aim for 2050 as we know that world pollution will destory 2 time more than current. If we control this now and saving earth. Sooner the better. If Harper and all G8 members are worried about their ecomony then they can stop out-of-control pollution right now and try cap later.

We can DO-SOMETHING now.

Nothing Harper say will help because he do not intend to stop this seriou issues - aka Alberta oil project is out of control and he are letting them gettting away even after they killed 500+ ducks in their polluted pond. FACT - Tarsand project is to be enlarge to size roughly same as state of Florida and that is size of chuck of wasteland going to be created in Alberta.

Don't believe their commericals showing them creating new trees afterward. That is pure nonsense because they only accounted for 10% of wasteland in centre and new beauty trees are just cover-up at front. STOP THIS would be a better start and example for other countries to follow.


Chris (the other one)
said

How refreshing to see realism and pragmatism encroach on the environmental fanaticism so evident in the climate change "debate." Harper is exactly right, he is protecting his country, its economy, and refuses to engage in the hand-wringing and empty rhetoric of previous governments. Way to go, Stephen.


Don
said

The plan Harper suggests is like putting a band aid on an arterial bleed, it doesn't make sense and it's gonna get us in alot of trouble. By the time all the changes are implemented we'll be in so much trouble, we'll need to go back to living like in the 1800's. To do more now will likely get us in a mini recession but atleast we can pull through in better shape. Once everybody realizes there's money to be made in being eco friendly, the economy will take off in the right direction but if we wait too long,other countries will import their tech and we loose out on a large part of the money we can make if we join now.


James
said

Mike Webster. You have to start somewhere! Even at the most basic level of the citizen. I, myself, have started driving slightly below the posted speed limit because I know that I will get better gas mileage and produce less pollution. I do this even though the majority of drivers exceed the speed limits in their SUV's. I do this because I have become aware of my individual actions and their effects on the environment and I want to do my part to improve things. As far as the economy goes, Mike, have you not noticed the booming sector in renewable, sustainable energy and recycling. There are big bucks to be made from changing the way we do business. It would be unfair of us to tell the Chineses and Indians to cut back or change if we have not done so. In the end, what good will an economy be when society is faced with droughts in the west, raising sea levels on the coasts and unbreathable air everywhere. The change has to start somewhere. I am making changes Mike, are you?


Shane Prpich
said

Phff!
Having Harper praise Canada's environmental record is like Bush praising America's foreign policy record.



Rob
said

For the do something now crowd, a question.

What would you have us do specifically and in a meaningful way, the impact of those countries you so quickly want to ignore, China and India and to an extent Mexico are the problem here in a global sense, and you must not look at this as a Canadian only problem. I recently travelled to Mexico and from 4 miles offshore I could not see the shore line through the smog from the coal fired power plant. I have yet to see that anywhere in Canada. And step away from the rhetoric about the oil sands projects and please educate yourself before you speak, A "wasteland" is a gross exageration, in the way of a scare the world catch phrase, of the way that area will look after mining.


Vic
said

What a joke! Even if it is true that Canada has done some things to enhance conservation measures, Harper can take absolutely NO credit in any of that, it's been done by others. He has been too busy tearing down environmental programs!!
As for climate change, Harper should spend more time listening to what others are doing - his lack of commitment to real action is an embarrassment to Canada.


Allan Eizinas
said

With the Bernier fiasco taking up pages 1 to 6 in every newspaper, perhaps this news will make it to page 7.

Perhaps not.


Nancy
said

As a energy super power and a growing influence on the world stage Prime Minister Harper is well respected.

Our commitments to the UN and Nato sponsered mission
and support of the Ukraine and Isreal have given us great influence as our polices are guided by Principals.

China is build 500 hundred that right 500 dirty coal fired plants as we build smaller cars and a nuclear reactor in Northern Alberta we are on the right track.

A job killing tax in Canada that ships more jobs to China is not the answer we need to bring the world together on this. China should become a responsible world citizen and join us in the fight for clean air.

It is embarassing for us that we have to admit for 13 yrs our emissions grew faster than the USA and nothing was done for 13 years except some money being shifted around.

I am going to put a flag on my backpack now that we are back on the world stage prouder than ever.


Earl Robert
said

The comments made by Mike Webster and Chris (the other one)are right on. Stephen Harper is showing the rest of the world that this is an international crises that won't be solved by environmental fanaticism. Canada will reduce green house gases and that's not empty rhetoric. I'm with Stephen Harper on this one and yes, I'm a Harper man all the way.


Tom
said

James is dreaming if he thinks China or India are going to suddenly "reform" because Canada was kind enough to destroy its economy to show them the light. They couldn't care less.

We need to continue the fight against pollution in general and not tilt at CO2 windmills. I'm appalled at the enviornmental movement for losing sight of that and resorting to fear mongering about a non issue. Envioro's used to make a difference. Now they seem to want to scare little kids to get to their parents, instead.


J.C.
said

I would like to point out that planting trees is a good thing for our combat against climate change, no matter what the reason. The biggest problem is convincing other countries such as those in South America, where the boreal forests are being destroyed. This has caused major problems as it is the trees that clean the carbon out of the air. It is devastating that forests are being cut for the purpose of building industries and housing instead of using open land for these purposes.
Also I see no benefit for Canada (who retain and rebuild their forests) to be with the koyota agreement unless all countries are involved.If countries like China keep emitting while we are conserving, what benefit would we see as more industries would move to those countries where they do not have to have such stringent rules. The problem as I see it is corporate greed.
And by the way, don't knock the baby boomers as we do not know as yet what will be as we move from an industrialized nation into a tech nation. I'm sure technology will cause us many new environmental problems in the future that we are unaware of today. Young people should stop placing blame on the older generation and seek solutions to the problem. After all they might cause worse problems in the future.


A question
said

Critics complain about Harper's plan because it is not a hard cap but rather an intensity based one. And the same critics praise Dion's potential carbon tax plan.

But isn't a carbon tax another form of an intensity based plan?


JoeC
said

While the United States and Europe allow Canadian built electric cars on their city streets, Canada still refuses to allow electric cars that are built here in Canada, on Canadian city streets, because they are not "safe" in Canada, but are safe in the United States and Europe.

What's wrong with this picture?



MrBill
said

Why do Canadians always want to tear one another down and criticize each and every plan no matter how well-intentioned as too little, too late? Climate change is obviously a global concern. Large countries, with large populations that are big polluters have to be also a part of the global solution. We cannot afford to offshore our jobs and then pay to clean up our environment as well as their environment too. That does not mean that Canada cannot strive to lead by example by having a cleaner environment and sustainable development at home. We can lead on both fronts. But it is more fun to tear each other down I suppose, eh?


Greg in the Hammer
said

I'd like to know what so many of the David Suzuki is God crowd are going to say in 10 years when the little publicized release from the German Meteorlogical Society is proven right and Earth has gotten well into a cooling trend.

Mean temperature has been flat for 10 years, and could indeed be dropping.

The UN IPCC panel is a sham. Most of the so called leading experts on it are politicians and bureaucrats not scientists and several hundred scientists have had their names removed.

The IPCC does not even look at natural factors that contribute to climate only manmade ones. This is just bad science considering the single largest factor in earths climate is ...wait for it.....THE SUN !

Instead of drinking the "we have to stop increasing GHG Kool Aid" and spouting off rhetoric, how about read some real data people and educate yourselves.

Or just keep being conned and head back to Lemmingville.

Pollution, and air quality standards are what we should be focusing on. Not this delusional concept that anything man can do can change climate.


ET
said

As usual, Harper is embarassing us on the world stage again! His "per capita" business crap is just that...crap! He is out of step with the world scientific community, 90% of the world leaders, and just about every Canadian outside of Oilberta.

It's recycle day here. I'm looking up the street, and everyone has their blue box out, except for that one house up the street. So I shouldn't put mine out, right? What kind of a "garbage" argument is that?!

Following the US model does not work for this issue. I wish he could see that. I wish he would tell the other world leaders not to worry, and that Canada will have a REAL government soon.

Jonathan
said

Has anyone here actually been to China? The air pollution there is appalling! I know it's unfair to compare one country's environmental record against another's when forming an argument, but come on... Canada is one of the cleanest, most progressive countries in the world when it comes to the environment. I think its biggest pollution is noise - from all those whiners out there who have nothing better to do than complain about how we aren't the distorted enironmental utopia that only exists in their heads.


Mark
said

When will people realize as a energy exporter with a relatively small population we are in a different situation than many counties! I think our Government although not perfect is heading in the right direction on this.

I also agree that unless you have the US, China and India trying to do something, it is pointless.

I think Harper is trying to Bridge the gap between the Kyoto Participants, and the Non Kyoto's which I think is a good move. Lets get EVERYONE moving in the same direction.




dp
said

The money spent today toward protection the environement will pale in comparison to the amount needed in years to come. If you think Canada's economy will dip into a recession by addressing these issues now, just wait until 2050... but hey, why do we care... by then it'll be in the hands of out kids...maybe they will have learnt to see the bigger picture.


James
said

Tom; "James is dreaming" Canada is not in it alone. That is part of this trip that Harper is on. Germany, France, Italy and Britan want Canada to join them on setting standards. They also want the U.S. to join them but they understand that will not happen until George Bush is in retirement. China and India will listen to a united front, especially when the benefits of going green are shown to be economic, as well as, environmental. Win - win all around. Canada's economy can be "destroyed" by any numer of factors that Canada has no control over or even any hint of. The prime example of this is the oil sands projects. You actually use more engery to produce a barrel of tar sands oil than that barrel will produce. Does that make sense? The only way the oil companies can make money at that is when the price of oil is so high. What would happen if the world economy went into a depression and the price of oil crashed.It's happened before. The economy of Alberta and Canada would crash and we could not do a thing about it. Canada needs to join with other like minded countries to come to sensible solutions for the environmental crisis we face.


Robin the Hood
said

I agree that developing countries like China and India need to cut CO2 emissions. CO2 is the same regardless of its origin. However, developed countries need to lead on this and the argument being used by Harper is only a narrow minded delay tactic. Besides, Canada risks falling behind in terms of the increased efficiency that CO2 reduction policies will create. At some point, as the climate change becomes an even greater problem, an international carbon credit and tax system will be forced globally and countries that did not do their part initially will pay a much higher price of having to catch up or become economically and politically isolated (I would hope.)



Roger T
said

Praise our country for what?

If only citizens from other countries come and have a look at some of the places in Canada that needs MAJOR revamping and needs more attentions on our own environmental problems. Only stupid people across the world will smile and listen in pretense when a politcal leader who has so much internal party problems plaguing him.

No wonder Canada is a needle in a hay stack when it comes to voicing our concerns to the world! It's more like voxles ideas and concerns that maily preached to deaf people.


DO
said

It's good to think about the environment. What we can do to change and make it better. In my opinion Mr. Harper should concentrate more on Canada than abroad and not donating so much of our money to other countries. He should encourage wind or solar power plants to be built here. Helping people here that are less fortunate that can't afford to make the changes as in cars and their home.


Lart fromAbove
said

Oh please. Canada has the second-worst environmental record on the planet. Under the Liberals, the rising price of oil made the tar sands economically viable, causing a vast increase in greenhouse gas emission from Alberta. The Conservatives have marched backward, at best moving from denial to lip service. The US, Japan, and especially Canada are failing to accept responsibility for the damage done to the environment to date, so the Chinese and Indians have no reason to listen to anything we might say on the subject.

The Americans will soon have a government with a rational perspective. Once the US signs the Kyoto accord and starts serious planning for the next phase of global environmental remediation, Canada will be forced to go along. Better late than never, though it's a sad day when Canada allows the US to take the moral high ground on something like this.

It is clear that greenhouse gas emission is a problem caused by our economic activity and that can be influenced by our political decisions. More than half of the increase in atmospheric temperatur in the past thousand years has occurred since 1980, and the problem has become very significantly worse since 2000, which means it can be turned around if we do something about it.


Duffy
said

While I don't think Harper can rightly praise Canada's GHG reduction plan this story has the typical Canadian media bias. The speech was about protecting specific species through reserving land. The Conservatives have set aside more land in 2 years then the past liberals in 13 years. While I don't think the reduction plan by 2050 when my kids will be looking at retiring is the right plan at least they have done some protection measures for land use and animal welfare.


Jim McB
said

What a pleasure to see some reasonable posts. There can be little argument that individual action is the key to making the environment better. Secondly, sustainable government programs with achievable results help.

Schemes to redistribute wealth do nothing to help the environment; they give the poor a greater ability to pollute. Environmental taxes (carbon tax) are government money laundering schemes that do little more than enrich a government that in turn will spend on those who support them. The NEP is ample evidence of that model.

It is reassuring to see that the majority of reasonable people support our national approach. The PM should be proud of that, and selling Canada is a good idea. If you don't believe it go and visit some of these so called environmentally friendly countries. Compared to what we have they are light years behind and will never catch up, they don't have the space.

Now if we could only find some reasonable judges who don't think it is a human right to take dope.


Margaret
said

Although Canada may be trying to maintain biodiversity, the high per capita energy consumption rates remain a serious problem. The polar ice caps are melting, polar bears and other artic wildlife are becoming endangered, and famous environmental activists like David Suzuki are still disappointed with the inability of Canada and several other large industrial/CO2 polluters to deliver the results outlined in the Kyoto accord. This is a treaty and must be regarded with utmost seriousness. This is a pact that will affect generation X and generations to come, if there will be the continuation of civilization as we know it. It is up to us to modify the current disastrous situation into a sustainable one.


Tori
said

Canada has to get rid of the thousands of acres of bettle infested trees in BC. That space willl create more than 270 million tons of GHG by 2020. Now I know BC prides itself in it's trees but is this forest really something to be proud of?

The Oil Sands in Alberta need tougher regulation. One barrel of oil from the sand pits produce 3 times the GHG from conventional mining. There is a plan to strip another 200km sq of the Boreal forest. Less forest more CO2 more ghg.

Around the world emmissions of Methane gas needs to be controlled. Fossil fuel production, farming, waste management and even rice cultivation effects the GHG emitted in the form of methane.

Increased reforestation to help eliminate CO2 and improve our atmosphere. So much of our forests have been removed that we are loosing the natural air filters the earth requires.

“The No. 1 material in the waste stream that creates greenhouse gases is aluminum,” says Steve Apotheker, senior recycling planner for Metro. Get rid of the use of aluminum cans, sorry PEI you guys had it right. Bottle is better. Producing cans cost 3 times the electricity to produce a bottle.

KISS, keeping it simple s**pid. Be consious about your own home. Change your lightbulbs. As you replace appliances use ones that have the Energy Star on them. Insulate your home so you need less air conditioning in the summer and less heat in the winter. Use water efficiently. Recycle everything that can be. Drive more sensibly. Hang your clothes out to dry on nice days. Watch the type of laundry detergent to avoid putting phosphates in the water system. Dispose of batteries, paint cans and hazardous waste properly. When you replace your vehicle purchase a hybrid. This will force vehicle companies to build what we need and reduce the amount of gas used which will in turn lower prices because the stockpile will become huge.

Reducing the GHG emmissions is not just for big business, it is every person living on this earth that needs to be accountable. Cities that do not have proper recycling and waste management need to step up to the plate and put proper procedures in place. City and town vehicles should all be replaced through their natural attrition to eco friendly hybrids.

If Canada wants to lead the world in reducing GHG then it starts in every house. Don't just sit there blaming the PM when we are at the bottom of the pack, do your part then you can complain.



WMS
said

Canada's environmental record is abysmal. Harper's policies have dragged Canada to the bottom of the list as far as adressing climate change is concerned. Who is he trying to kid? I agree with Shane.


Revy
said

Greg in the Hammer, you are right on the money!

There are so many other ignored factors with regard to climate change. The sun, volcanic activity and the fact that Al Gore kept a secret in his film - CO2 raises after the climate warm (it is an effect - not the cause). The oceans cover most of the planet and the warmer they are, the more CO2 they release - just like a coke! Cold coke - stays fizzy (the CO2 is what makes it fizz), warm coke goes flat right away (de gasses the CO2). It is so simple, but we can't see it because of the misguided enviro-crusaders. Lets focus on polution which is a real problem, not carbon. Think of it... ALL life on earth is carbon based.


David fm NS
said

Although I think any program that cuts air pollution is great, do all of you doom and gloomers know that the earth has been in a cooling trend since 1998 which is predicted to last another 15 to 20 years at least. All this while more and more man made GHGs enter the atmosphere. A cautious measured approach is needed here, not fanaticism.


Jim Cripwell
said

Greg in the Hammer writes "Mean temperature has been flat for 10 years, and could indeed be dropping." Slightly wrong; the five organizations who routinely report average global tmeperature anomalies, provide data that PROVES global temperatures are dropping. These five organizations are, NASA, NOAA, UK Met Office, RSS/MSU satellite data, and the University of Alabama. Despite the unprecedented rise in CO2 concentration in the atmosphere, temperatures are certainly falling. Wake up people! the warmaholics are trying to sell you sanke oil.


Jim
said

Harper's government has the right balance between industry and the environment. The environment will suffer if the economy goes down. We need realistic action, not the empty, politically opportunistic, rhetoric of our recent past governments.


Ron Speakman
said

Until we as the rich/developed countries take a lead and do something, we will never get India and China to start moving down that road. It's time for us to once again show leadership on the global stage.


NB
said

You have to have nerve and acting skills to stand in front of world leaders and praise Canada for its environmental record. What a joke!


Dan
said

Harper praises something we should be embarrassed of. Absurd.

We had a chance to lead, it was squandered.

No shock though given the pandering to hometown Alberta as it is a pollution factory.

History will speak to the failures of this government.


Doug BC
said

Personally,I've given up on the Suzuki's,the Dion's,and the Gore's of this world.And also those who may want to debate the solutions as being in denial.It's quite possible,my learned friends,to actually agree there are problems to resolve,but still not agree with the "tax them into poverty" method of resolving those issues.
I think we got sold out at Kyoto by our last government.And I don't accept massive taxes as the only solution.That approach only creates more poverty and lower living standards for all Canadians.And,let's face it,families struggling to get to work,or feed their kids decently,are ot going to have the money it takes for upgrading to more energy efficient products.They will be sitting at home freezing in the dark.One more reason I no longer vote Liberal.
However,I have to add that I am disappointed by the slow progress of the current government as well.While I favour their legislation and regulation approach,I think they need to get more done,and soon.
Not an easy task for a minority government of any party.And made more difficult by the divisions between the provinces.In fact,that might be the biggest hurdle.Aside from political pandering.


Rick
said

Attention, Attention all environmentalists. I am so tired of the arrogance and shortsightedness shown by so many in this new religion. Consensus among environmental scientists is not proof of man made climate change. Computer models designed by environmental scientists are not proof of man made climate change.

Climate change has been going on ever since the world began. Any of the true scientific studies that I have seen, indicate that man’s influence on climate change is miniscule at best. I do not understand why these environmentalists are trying to stop something that has been naturally occurring for millions of years and will undoubtedly continue, regardless of what actions ‘man’ takes. I am very concerned that these attempts to stop this natural process may have very dire consequences for our planet.

Instead of trying to stop something that we should not and can not, we should be putting our recourses into reacting to climate change. In this regard environmentalists are completely misguided. I to am concerned about the environment, but I’d rather see us cleaning up polluted air, land, rivers and lakes rather than throwing all theses resources at a useless endeavour.

I do understand that most hard line environmentalists are of a younger age set and as such, are very idealistic and easily influenced. A great man once said; “if you’re young and not a liberal you have no heart – if you’re old(er) and not a conservative you have no brain.” HOW TRUE!



MRC
said

We all have to change our WAY OF LIFE and then the environment will fix itself. We have to fix the problems with OUR OWN CIVILIZATION and then the environment will fix itself. We have to fix the problems with OURSELVES and then the environment will fix itself... Need I go on? I don't think so, but it seems that nobody gets it.

Changes in technology & the CONTROL of GROWTH will "save our planet" (save OURSELVES!), nothing else will.


Rob
said

Stop the nonsense.... did you know that everywhere in the world except the G8 countries people spend an average %60 of their income on food? Why? Bio-fuels.... it's causing way more harm than good and in the long it is causing more GHG's because of forest clearing for crop production. Think about it!


Paul Childs
said

It is amazing to see that out of a majority of news articles, this one has the most response. It is our generation that has been brainwashed with the environmental problems. The world has been around for, "according to science billions of years", and now all of the sudden the world is going to come to an end because of a little pollution? All of the volcanoes in the world produce more toxic pollution than all humans and industry on the planet. The Oceans and all animals on the planet produce more C02 emissions than all the industry, cars and humans on this planet. I say to all of you environmentalists to get you head straight, get your facts straigh and get your life straight. It is all about control and money, if they can't keep up the environmental cause then they won't have power and won't have funding. Way to go Harper keep up the good work and don't fall into the traps set before you.


HB
said

To those global warming deniers who still drive their SUVs, use virgin paper, plastic bottles and throw things like Mr. Clean or Bleach down the drain, it is YOUR choice to criticize the David Suzukis or Al Gores of this world and the little people like myself who are making changes in their lives to treat the Planet more gently. But if (or when) some natural disaster, disease or food shortage affects you or your families, do not try to be first in line to get help, stand way back, where you belong.


Trent
said

Anyone being realistic about this issue has to agree with Harper's comments. Why should two of the biggest polluters not be included, especially when these two country's pollution levels are growing by leaps and bounds every year?
Unless you get these countries on board, their pollution increases will more then make up for reductions gained by the contributers at the expense of their economies (more jobs will shift to China and India due to costs being lower). Kyoto would be a zero sum gain at best when looking a pollution reduction!


ance
said

we should all do all that we can...

the argument that we should do nothing because we can't stop climate change is stupid and irresponsible...

even if we can't stop climate change we can reduce our human contribution to climate change...

grow up, smarten up, do your part and demand our government and industries do their part...



Shamaro
said

Mr. Harper is bang on when he tells people in Europe like Chancellor Merkel, that they're environmental lpolicies are more talk then they are substance. Europeans for centuries and even up until today, are one of the worst polluters on the earth. And it's funny, how many European big business has moved much of their polluting industries to countries that do not have very strong environmental records. Also, he hit the nail on the head again, when he mentions that China and India (probably the worlds worst polluters) should be included in international environmental initiatives. Just because they are developing countries, does not mean that they can be ignored and allowed to pollute. Canada does it's fair share of polluting, that I do know, however 33 million compared to two countries like China and India which have over 2.5 billion is a drop in the bucket. Maybe the environmentalists should spend more time and energy going after the biggest polluters in the world, not tiny one's.


Ivan
said

I agree with Harper that no country should be left out of a global warming initiative. The time is now to put pressure these governments to enact changes in their policy while it is still feasible to do so. I don't believe that China or India will respond well in a few years when the world asks them to shut down their newly built coal fired plants because of the impact they are having on the environment.

I think the greatest failing of the any climate change initiative is not that it fails to achieve its objectives, but rather the objectives were incorrect in the first place. Had a country like China chosen to open up to the world sooner, they might have developed while their population was smaller and noticed a natural decrease in population growth that tends to come with a developed society.


Nadine Marothy
said

"We have vowed to get past the empty rhetoric and to take real action to require Canadian industry to make real reductions in greenhouse gas emissions," he said.(Harper)

Although it is all well and good for our industries to adhere to tighter environmental standards as well as labour, quality and safety standards, they come at a cost.

If China and other developing countries aren't held to the same standards, can we apply tariffs so at least our industries have a chance? We are already on an extremely unfair playing field and have lost enough jobs.


Bob Delanore
said

Interesting to see that there are so many comments on this article. People are either eager to do something about the environment or do nothing.
Either way the article touches on a very important theme in Canadian international policy: our increasingly influential role in global trends. Canada's is poised to take a major role due to our extensive natural reserves, yet our government only sees the green, the near and not the future.
Harper is correct in wanting China and Idia to come into Kyoto, however we as leaders must show the way. Take a close look at the way they`re are growing today and you'll see Canada, UK, US,etc., 30 years ago.


James T.
said

We will be left behind if we sit and do nothing while European countries develop and implement green technologies. When China, India and the US does come onboard, they will be buying up the green technologies from the Europeans and so will we.

Why can't we act aggressively now; and at the same time pressure China and India to go green? Would the weight of our word not ring a heavier truth?




James
said

An interesting fact: 90% of all creatures that have ever existed on earth in the bilions of years of this planet's existance are extinct. We, as the human species, are the most advanced. Does it not make sense that we should be very concerned about our species' very existance. Whether it is global warming, volcanoes, asteroids, bird flu, etc, the answer is still the same. We, as human beings need to take better care of this planet so that we can take better care of ourselves. We are reaching a tipping point by which it may be too late to undo what we have done. At that point, the real craziness begins; race for higher ground, wars over very limited resources and basic questions of our very survival as a species. I don't think the dinosaurs paused from their daily activities of eating and trying not to be eaten to ponder that flash of light from above or that plume of ash from over the horizon to wonder if this was the end. Are we dinosaurs who can't see past our daily survival? I choose to be the cockroach who, despite everything else, continues to adapt and strive. Excuse me while I look for a rock to hide under while you all chew your cud.


Pepper
said

Look, we are the mouse playing around the elephant - if China (who is producing a coal plant every week)and India don't get on board, Canada's impact on global warming will be near 0. It is a simple as that folks, any one trying to argue otherwise is not considering reality.



Climate Researcher
said

"Greg in the Hammer" wrote: "The IPCC does not even look at natural factors that contribute to climate only manmade ones. This is just bad science considering the single largest factor in earths climate is ...wait for it.....THE SUN !"

^^In the IPCC's early days, it (accidentally?) paid insufficient attention to natural factors in climate change, such as the sun & clouds. At least in recent years there has been increasing recognition that nonlinear dynamics should NOT simply be dismissed because they are "too hard" to understand & study scientifically. Figuring out the nonlinear dynamics could take decades -- we're not even close yet.

"Lart fromAbove" wrote: "More than half of the increase in atmospheric temperatur in the past thousand years has occurred since 1980 ..."

^This is not true.^

Margaret wrote: "The polar ice caps are melting ..".

^^Although CURRENTLY true, this is a dangerously misleading statement, probably based on a lack of understanding of LAGS. The Earth has a tremendous amount of thermal inertia, particularly in its oceans. Although it does not tell the WHOLE story, one example of a research paper (that gives a PIECE to the puzzle) that illustrates lags is:
icesjms.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/63/3/401

Encouragement: It is my hope that everyone contributing to debates like this is CAPABLE of interpreting and judging the research DIRECTLY, rather than relying on politicians & the media in forming an opinion about his very important & very COMPLEX matter, which has PROFOUND economic, social, & environmental ramifications.

There is a lot of both information & misinformation out there, so we have a lot of (learning &) reading to do if we want to empower ourselves to participate responsibly in debates like this.


Dr. Graham Henderson, Ph.d
said

This is nothing more than PR at it's finest. What has Canada done to curb climate change, be at the cutting edge of environmental solutions. Harper himself still denies the science, and is stuck on his ideological and Evangelical beliefs.


Colin
said

Its really funny that when it comes to environmental issues everyone points fingers. Especially when it comes to third world countries. The industrial sector has only shifted to those countries because of the almighty dollar. Prior to that North America was polluting for many years. In addition to that most of the products that they are producing are for consumption in the western world...we are just as much to blame! time to take a step back and make changes in our consumption.


Stephen Green
said

The Conservative plan is the correct approach. Heavy taxation, carbon taxes and such will just place enormous economic pressures on all. If the 3rd world wants assistance than as our economy tanks, we will be unable to assist. Canada only accounts for a mere 2% of the entire issue therefore if we achieve any reduction that is good. The big polluters like China and India and some other 3rd world countries are far worse. Indonesia is horrendous as is China and India. Mexico City is like living in a smoke stack. Even Canada's largest cities on their worst days for smog are a thousand times better than Hong Kong.

Let us keep this thing in perspective.


Glenn
said

Count me in the something is better than nothing crowd. I'm not an expert but I would hope that as countries implement systems they will learn what works and what doesn't both in terms of real reductions and good economics. This is already happening in the UK. As plausible solutions emerge it may be more feasible to bring China and India onside with real alternative methods to reduce emissions. Refusing to do anything certainly doesn't seem to be putting pressure on them right now.

Regardless of whether you believe in global warming, the current emissions are also driving urban polution and poor air quality. Either way, these types of measures will have benefits.


Keith
said

Really, does it matter if global warming is real or not? The consumerist, high-energy-and-materials-consumption habits of all nations seems to be worsening, and we know that the pollution is having a negative impact on our health and the environment - so cutting back is GOOD for us EVEN IF the global warming theories are wrong.

Sooner or later, everyone will have to change their ways; we have too many people and too little resources to continue like this indefinitely. So a little pain now as we develop policies, programs and technologies to carry us forward will put us ahead of the curve and make us leaders. And THAT is where the moey is; if we get there first and have the technologies and the know-how, the world will come to us when their turn comes.

And for those who are worried about losing jobs etc to the polluter nations, once we get our own act together we can make trade conditional on the "green-ness" of the goods they try to sell us. THAT'S how to get India, China et al on board; much of their growth is dependent on exports, so the combination of market pressures and availability of cheap alternative technologies (that we develop) will be enough to bring the laggards along.


Wise Wajid
said

Poor Stevie..you aren't fooling anyone in Europe. Canada has no environmental program. And the newspapers are only interested in the Bernier story.


Dr. R J Fudd
said

Harper is right on track in trying to engage the world leaders to adopt a real results orientated plan versus the feel good waste of time


rob from oilberta...
said

Please get your facts right and research what you don't know before passing comments which are simply hysteria.

No one denies the climate is changing, fact. The climate always changes, fact. The earth goes through warm periods and cold periods, with or without human help, fact.

I have been hearing from both sides of this debate and for every piece of evidence FOR there is an equal amount of eveidence AGAINST.

Conclusion: no one really knows what is going on. This is a political hot potatoe and I am very glad I am not the PM.

BAN CFL's!! They are worse for the environment than the bulb Edison patented!! For those of you who disagree, enjoy the mercury in your water when these are disposed of.


a proud Canadian
said

Pleeeze... let's get the "factoids" right. What specifically is Canada being praised for?

Dforestation of the mixed hardwood forest that once covered all of southern Ontario?... No - that's not it... the article says...

"These large protected areas include famous national parks like Banff, Fundy, Gros Morne, and Nahanni, of which our government announced a significant expansion last summer," said Harper.

Here's a few facts...
Nahanni is not a National Park it is a "National Park Reserve"... and the reason it is a "Reserve" is because successive governments have not substantively addressed native land claims and at least three native bands in that area continue to quarrel about who "owns what"...

Further... the "expansion" was in the works for years and did nothing to protect the Greater Nahanni watershed from the Tungsten Mine and its tailings ponds that only last year were found to be in violation of environmental laws...

Are Harper and Canada are being praised for
the twinning of the TransCanada Highway and subdividing wildlife populations by fencing off much of the Bow Valley in Banff... or is it the unchecked growth of Banff townsite and government policies that in recent years have seen cutbacks of 25% in Parks Canada budgets .. or are we to believe that biodiversity is being protected in these parks when we see megadevelopments such as the Lake Louise Conference Center or the paving over of wildlands that once bufferred parks from human impact.

Nope... checking the news archives I see reason for celebratino on Sept 19,2007. On that date Harper's government announced: all scientific field work would stop at the Canadian Wildlife Service, there was
an 80% funding cut to the Environmental Monitoring and Assessment Network,
a 50% cut to funding for the Migratory Bird Program, a cut from $1.9 MILLION to zero for the National Wildlife Areas program that protected nationally significant habitats for wildlife...

So there we have it... this must be what Canada is being praised for. Be proud Canadians.


A
said

James, you're right, it doesn't make sense to "use more energy to produce a barrel of tar sands oil than that barrel will produce." It happens because you're wrong. A barrel of oil produces 5 or 6 times the amount of energy that it currently takes to extract tar sands oil. Check your facts.

Trudy
said

Harper waved his magic wand, did he? He says so and it is so? Right.
As regards the boomer comment. We country boomers have been conserving, preserving, reusing and recycling since there have been folk living in little country communities. All wisdom comes from the country. Once there was no such thing as cities, dense urban areas, subdivisions, condos or apartment buildings. No one represents us in government, on tv, in movies. We don't make much noise about the planet going to hell in a handbasket due to urbanities' wasteful ways. we just get on with living and hope the youngsters get a clue someday. Since our children came along and mostly all wanted to move to the city instead of becoming farmers, the demands made upon our planet resources has risen right along with our children's needs for material pocessions to suit their lifestyle. You have it the wrong way around, my dear.I no more need a kitchen with granite counters and stainless steel appliances than I need a hole in the head. I no more need a vacation in the sun than I need blisters on my butt. Some of us know how to be polite to our elders. You might also thank we boomers for mostly having the 1.5 children much desired by our generation. No more families of ten or more. Our little contribution to keeping the population down. Over population on the planet is the one and only reason for the planetary pickle we all find ourselves in. Too many people consuming resources which do run out. We are all feeling the effects of this now. I can tell from Adrian's comment that she wasn't raised by a real country family. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, eh? Trudy


PM
said

What work to protect the environment is this guy talking about? What ever happened to the minister of environment? Haven't heard from that clown in awhile.


Sonny
said

India & China are part of Kyoto. The United States is not, yet represents the worst and happens to be Canada's main trading partner.
It is unlikely Canada will be an example for the World given the direction it has taken with the Tar Sands, no matter what Harper says. I will never vote Conservative...


Bernard Romanycia
said

I suppose Harper wants to take credit for the grass turning green.


Rural Roots
said

"Climate Change

Harper also used the forum to push Canada's strategy to combat climate change.

"We have vowed to get past the empty rhetoric and to take real action to require Canadian industry to make real reductions in greenhouse gas emissions," he said. "

Think about it. He said absolutely nothing.

... and that's our 'strategy to combat climate change'? Talk about empty rhetoric...





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