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Date: Wed. Apr. 30 2008 10:04 PM ET

Fredericton's flood levels are expected to match -- or even surpass -- the worst flood to hit the New Brunswick capital in recorded history, as the St. John River seeps into the city.

Emergency officials are warning those who live along the river between Fredericton and Jemseg -- particularly in Maugerville and Jemseg -- to get out now.

The river begins to flood at the 6.5-metre mark, but it had reached at least 7.2 metres by late Wednesday. Residents can find updates on the situation here.

"In 1973, we had our 180-year flood which put the city of Fredericton at the 8.6-metre mark," Bob Martin, the Fredericton fire department's assistant deputy chief of operations, told CTV Newsnet.

"We're predicting that sort of landmark will be hit again sometime overnight."

The 1973 flood caused Fredericton and the surrounding farmland about $78 million in damage, according to the city's website.

Martin said Fredericton's schools and city hall will be shut down Thursday, along with parts of downtown. About 40 streets were expected to be under water by later in the week.

Cindy Abbott, a spokesperson for emergency groups working to deal with the flood, said transport vehicles have been sent to help evacuate residents from their homes -- if they choose to leave.

"People have to understand -- we're about to exceed the worst flood on record," she said.

The river could rise to 8.4 metres by Thursday morning.

"It's either going to be as big as '73 or the next best thing to it," said Andy Morton, deputy director of the province's Emergency Measures Organization during a Wednesday news conference.

Martin said officials are on standby if the flooding continues to worsen.

"We're monitoring the situation," Martin said. "We have our public safety marine units in the water and we're ready at this time."

However, he noted that a number of residents have decided to ride out the flood and have no plans to evacuate their homes.

Much of the extra river volume was due to heavy rainfall up river in the northern parts of the province, as well as record snowfall levels over the winter winter.

But officials have not yet declared the situation a crisis.

"The flooding at this point...is certainly severe enough to impede traffic on a number of roadways and certainly to fill basements and that sort of thing," Morton said earlier in the day.

"But we haven't seen any first floor damage at this point and that really concerns us when we start to see damage on the first floor of any property."

Sense of bravado

People who live along the river's banks have been warned they have a choice to either to get out or hunker down with the expectation of having to wait out the flood, since officials would have difficulty reaching them.

CTV's Lisa LaFlamme, reporting from Fredericton on Wednesday, said there were about 250 people whose homes were completely surrounded by floodwaters.

"We've been told only about 80 of them have registered, but that doesn't mean they've left," she told Canada AM, noting there seemed to be a sense of bravado among many residents who were planning to stick it out.

"People are saying you live on the river, you've got to be ready to survive a flood," LaFlamme said, standing on the edge of a massive floodplain where the river had overwhelmed its banks.

Those that stay in their homes will have to prepare for about a week without access to supplies, Morton said. He recommended stocking up on essentials such as fresh water, food, medication, and ensuring a secondary source of heat is available in case power is lost.

Mayor preparing for worst

Fredericton Mayor Brad Woodside told Canada AM he was "hoping for the best but preparing for the worst," noting that the river was expected to continue to ruse.

He said the Red Cross is ready to help, beds have been provided at universities for anyone displaced by the flood and a 24-hour emergency centre had been set up.

He agreed many of the residents are taking the flood risk in stride.

"There are people in the ... area that live with this anxiety every year and they learn to cope with it. It's a place that is unlike any other and it's the price you pay for living along the river anywhere in the world," Woodside said.

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Andrew
said

This area floods every year.... the press is making it a big story out of something that is the norm here. If it is a slow news day... leave it that way, do not make something BIG out of the usual!!


Barb
said

Thank God I live in the country. But this is just what use to happen every spring years ago, we were fooled by a few mild winters with not much snow. I can remember in riverbank when the ice would come right up over the road and it would flood so our school bus would have to take another route so nothing new.


Freddy
said

Andrew, it is sad that you are such a “richard.” Perhaps you should have a little more sympathy. Or perhaps you should come to the flood area and see how “usual” it really is around here. I am right in the middle of this flood, and let me tell you that it is not a small deal, nor is it just any day as usual. I would rather be doing other things than setting up subpumps and moving stuff to higher ground for my neigbors.

Thomas
said

For those people that are there, How bad is it?

I live in Western Canada an I have seen nor heard nothing on the Flooding except for me doing the internet thing.

Why is it that Canada is becoming so regionalized. Whether a normal event as Andrew puts it or worse as Freddy Says, this nation still needs to help each other out and know about things.



Leslie Leblanc
said

this happens almost every year!! you know it could be coming so prepare accordinly !!

you still see people unprepared !!and then ask for goverment help !!


Cindy-Lynn
said

I live in Fredericton and work directly on the side of the St John river and I can tell you that is is going up pretty quickly! Gouvernment of New Brunswick just posted that the water is anticipated to rise to 8.6 meters by tommorrow, flood level is 6.5. This might cause a lot of damage and evacuations.


JimmyNice
said

While the river does certainly swell every spring.... references to 2005 levels or 1973 levels of flood are above the norm... while it swells every year, it doesn't reach the floodline. We've passed the flood line this year and about to reach 2005 levels. The fear is we may reach or surpass the 1973 levels which caused, in adjusted dollars over 100 million dollars in damages.... That's certainly not the norm every year.


Jonathan
said

Andrew, this is not the norm. The flood levels are forecast to be the highest on record.


Tori
said

I lived in Oromocto for 15 yrs and this area is prone to flooding every spring. It appears that this could become the worst ever.

Most of the homes in that area are heated by electricity. That means no power because the main power source needs to be turned off. No hot water to wash with, no clean water to do dishes in. No stove to cook on and no fridge to keep milk cold or food safe. Why would anyone want to have to live for 10 days through this? I understand wanting to stay with your house, kind of like the captain staying with his ship but for goodness sake, insurance will fix your house. Take your photos and get out. Protect yourselves; you and your children cannot be replaced.

Is the SPCA providing emergency shelter for pets?
Has the town(s)/city set up emergency shelters?

Maybe this is why people are staying, they simply have no place to go.



Sabrina Harnish
said

Andrew, this is still a big deal...The levels of water promise to be the same or just wee bit less than the 1973 flood. It is not the norm here, there has not been a flood of this magnitude in the Fredericton area for years. Maybe your response lost something in Internet translation but, you sound very callous. People are affected by this. Your neighbors are affected by this. Show a little consideration. Your neighbors do not bail water out of their basements or evacuate their houses everyday. The soccer field on Waterloo Row is not flooded every year. Leslie Leblanc, it does not happen every year. You cannot blame the victims. It is a shame that some people can be so unfeeling about their neighbors.


Westerner That Cares
said

What, no Brenda Martin story today? How does an insignicant event like massive flooding trump her sad story. Yes folks, that's sarcasm! It's nice to see "news worthy" stories in the news again. My heart goes out to those affected by the flooding.


Norm in Fredericton
said

My parents state the flood of 1936 was bigger than 1973 or 2005. Do the records not go back that far?


EVA
said

Tori, since the early 80s no household insurance will underwrite damaga caused by water infiltration, the 1 exception is a backed up swere, so if the house is lost, don't run to your insurance company looking for a checque... It ain't gonna happen...


Nick T
said

Tori, a lot of insurance companies won't cover this kind of thing under 'Act of God'.

What I want to know is why the officials are giving people a choice to stay or not... Why not make evacuation mandatory?


Barely Dry on Queen Street
said

Andrew is incorrect. I've worked in the same F'ton downtown building for 8 years and this is the first time we have been ordered to get things off the floor in our basement storage. Yes, certain areas outside of town do get some flooding every year but this is the worse Ive seen in my 10 years here and the week isnt over yet.......


Bill
said

If you stand along "The Green" (the berm along the river on the South side) it's much like standing at the base of Canal Street in New Orleans and looking out to the Mississippi. Optically, the river almost appears to be above your head. There is a bit of a "bowl" in the geography here, much like New Orleans, but not as dramatic. That is, if it spills into the bowl, things change dramatically fast. In 1973, water migrated up to about 200 feet from the lower entrance to U.N.B. If the level surpasses 1973, there will be a great deal of damage. Wish us luck.


James
said

Norm, I am guessing that the records were taken away in the previous floods. That is why there is no record of it.


Sandra
said

Sabrina, Morell Park does tend to flood to some extent every year. That being said, this is no ordinary flooding and let's hope that those who are waiting it out in their homes don't get caught in a life-threatening situation.



Tori
said

Hey thanks for the info, did not realize you could not buy flood insurance. I always thought this was an option.

If I ever move back to the Fredericton area, I won't buy on the Saint John River.


G Williamson
said

For all of those who commented so far on this being the normal thing in this area, and to be prepared for it, think a little bit before you say it. Is it normal for these people to bail out their houses every year when the snow melts, or to leave their property in a boat? No, its not. Yes, there has been flooding in the past, and im sure a lot of people are prepared for it. The issue here is that it is going to be much worse than previous years. These people dont need to be rididuled for not being prepared, there's only so much preparing you can do for something like this, then nature will just take over and undo everyting you did to protect yourself. People are getting out, and thats all they can do, as for the property well, it has to be sacrificed. As for Mr. Leblanc's comment on people going to the government to get help, is that not what disaster relief from the federal government is for, to help out those who cant get insurance on their property because its an act of God? These people deserve respect for having to deal with this, and also a nations sympathetic ear turned their way. For all of you who say this is just a "normal" event, think for a second how normal it would be for you if your house was under 8 feet of water.


Loranda
said

holy crap i think i may have to evac my house by tomorrow! ive never lived this close to the river, and i guess i wasnt really paying attention as to how bad it really was. i only found out today that my home may be in danger. we are so not prepared!(besides the fact we have somewhere else to go) *cross my fingers that things dont get crazy*


G Williamson
said

For all of those who commented so far on this being the normal thing in this area, and to be prepared for it, think a little bit before you say it. Is it normal for these people to bail out their houses every year when the snow melts, or to leave their property in a boat? No, it's not. Yes, there has been flooding in the past, and im sure a lot of people are prepared for it. The issue here is that it is going to be much worse than previous years. These people dont need to be ridiculed for not being prepared, there's only so much preparing you can do for something like this, then nature will just take over and undo everyting you did to protect yourself. People are getting out, and that's all they can do, as for the property well, it has to be sacrificed. As for Mr. Leblanc's comment on people going to the government to get help, is that not what disaster relief from the federal government is for, to help out those who cant get insurance on their property because its an act of God? These people deserve respect for having to deal with this, and also a nations sympathetic ear turned their way. For all of you who say this is just a "normal" event, think for a second how normal it would be for you if your house was under 8 feet of water.


John in On.....now!
said

I used to live on the other side in Burton. When I bought there the real-estate lady showed me the flood plain map. I never knew such a thing existed. Learned that my house would be high and dry. All the oldtimers had their house up on high dirt mounds, that I never understood until I saw the first flood

For those of you who "dis" others; how many of you knew there was such a map. If you didn't know, I would suggest you keep your opinions to yourself, as it may come back to bite you in the flood plain.


Robert Brown
said

When I was a kid I experienced the great Winnipeg flood of 1950 and the lesson I learned then has stuck by me ever since: Never live in a house by a river!


KWConnection
said

Many of the comments on this thread are proof positive of a trend I have seen developing.

Our society has become so self centered that we cannot look beyond our own diffifulties to see those of others nor would many even consider lifting a hand to help. The other person suffering can be a Tibetan fighting for freedom, an African Child dieing from Malaria or a Canadian Flooded from their home.

Where has the compassion of Canadians gone? A society is not just where you live but is something you are part of. Imagine what could be done if all of us chose to spend at least as much energy helping as we do in relishing in others misfortune.


Marg
said

I live upriver from Fredericton- in Madawaska county. The water level of the Madawaska River is just inches above the Saint John River with only the Edmundston Dam separating the two. Apparently a cottage has been seen floating down the Saint John River in the Baker Brook area. We had close to 200 cm of snow so it was bound to be a lot of water!!! Before the rain this week there was enough snow (3 ft +) to go cross country skiing.


Web
said

I feel sorry for those people who lose everything in a flood such as this. However, having said that, if you're stupid enough, and stubborn enough, to build your homes, towns and cities on a flood plain, you deserve what you get!!


David from Fredericton, NB
said

I totally agree with you G Williamson. If this was a normal annual fiasco than I'm sure we wouldn't be getting all this hype as we are right now. People would be quite used to it. This flood definitley breaks 2005's record and will be right up there, if not worse than 1973's flood. I wasn't around in 1973 but according to my mother and father, people were canoeing on Queen and King Street in April/May 1973. **That is a not a normal thing this time of year.**


Steve in Fredericton
said

OK, so there must be a link to the price of oil here. Surely this must be a good reason for the oil companies to raise the price of oil and subsequently the price of gas at the pump (inject sarcasm here).


Cheryl
said

The point of the news coverage is that compared to recent years, this is a flood of major significance, one that has not been seen since 1973. I would rather be over informed than not informed at all. Please keep covering the flood and a big thanks to all those at EMO.


Western Canadian
said

I lived in Fredericton for 5 years and it was great fun kayaking through the trees every spring on the St. John, Oromocto, Rusagonis, Portobello, Jemseg, Nashwaak, & other rivers. The floodplain marshes in the area really are very special, but beware the mosquito season!


Jan from Edmonton
said

Good luck to the people of Fredericton. We had the good fortune to visit your city in 2002 and loved it. I remember driving alongside the river and commenting on the low banks. Our thoughts and prayers will be with you tonight!


Hopeful in Freddy Beach
said

KWConnection really has a point. I have to stop reading the posts, because I find so many of them completely depressing (not just the ones in this stream). It is so hard to understand how heartless some of our fellow Canadians seem to be. How can you chastise someone for living in a home along a river, if it's the home they grew up in and were willed, for example? Maybe they have no means of moving to another home. Who are you (Web in this stream of comments, for example)to be so high and mighty? Let's pull together and show the rest of the world that Canadians do have hearts!


Constance
said

We have lived in the area all our lives, and it never fails to amaze me how easily mother nature can put us all in a tail spin.
We need to remember there is not a thing any one of us can do to change the expected flood. What we can be thankful for is that we have advance warning to enable us to protect ourselves, livestock, pets and property.
Hey we are tough enough. We will survive it yet one more time.
Thank you all for your well wishes.


Paul
said

ANDREW: This IS big! Biggest in 180 years.
I was there during the 1973 flood and there were actual concerns about the sides of the Mac dam etc. Fortunately, it crested.


Al H
said

Be extremly careful of electrocution.
Power entrances or fuse panels in basments that com into contact with the water can be deadly. NB power has lots of extra personnel in the area, however they will probably be isolating the downtown core.
Partially filled oil tanks will also float causing other hazards as well as the newly installed natural gas appliances.
Contact your utilities if you are unsure of how to shut down or turn off anything.
Be safe


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