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Canada AM: Paul Macklin of Save Brenda Fund
Canada AM: Gar Pardy, former director general, Consular Affairs
Canada AM: Debra Tieleman, friend of Martin
Canada AM: Marjorie Bletcher, Martin's mother
Canada AM: Lisa LaFlamme in Gualdalajara, Mexico
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CTV.ca News Staff

Date: Wed. Apr. 23 2008 2:36 PM ET

Secretary of State for Multiculturalism Jason Kenney will head to Mexico this week in an attempt to expedite the prison transfer of Brenda Martin, a Canadian convicted of taking part in a fraud scheme carried out by her former boss.

Kenney is set to arrive in Guadalajara, where Martin has been held in jail for two years, on Friday. Martin was convicted on Tuesday and has already signed prison transfer documents that indicate she has accepted the verdict and has declined an appeal.

Heriberto Estrada, of the judge's office, told The Canadian Press that Martin's signing of the documents paves the way for officials to begin transfer paperwork.

Estrada said Martin's rights were not violated during her incarceration, saying all rules have been followed despite the attention and criticism the case has received in Canada.

He denied claims from Martin that she was treated unfairly during her trial, saying the judge in her case has plenty of evidence that proves she's guilty.

Martin is 'devastated'

Close friend Debra Tieleman said Wednesday that Martin was crushed by the guilty verdict and five-year sentence handed down on Tuesday by a Mexican judge.

"I think she's devastated," Tieleman told CTV's Canada AM from Guadalajara. "In as much as Brenda says she doesn't get her hopes up, of course she does. I think Brenda, in the back of her mind, maybe expected to come home to Canada. I think she's definitely devastated, there's no question."

Martin has always maintained her innocence and says she knew nothing about the business dealings of Alyn Waage, who is currently serving a sentence on fraud charges in a U.S. prison.

Tieleman said Mexican prosecutors have no actual evidence against Martin, and she has been found guilty simply by her association with Waage.

"I really did believe Brenda would get justice in the end, and that just didn't happen," Tieleman said.

CTV News has learned the Prime Minister's Office is directly involved in the prisoner-transfer process to bring Martin home.

Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day told CTV's Mike Duffy Live on Tuesday that the government is ready to bring Martin back to Canada after the red tape is sorted out and the prisoner-transfer agreement takes effect.

Tieleman said the government's apparent willingness to get involved is encouraging.

"Certainly I think it will help," she said. "Absolutely it's a positive sign that (Kenney) is coming. I hope this gets expedited and Brenda is home within a couple of weeks."

Five-day appeal delay

CTV's Lisa LaFlamme, reporting from Guadalajara, said a mandatory five-day appeal period must pass before the prisoner-transfer process can begin.

That means Martin, who has been heavily medicated and put on a suicide watch in recent days, will remain in her Mexican jail cell for a while yet.

When the transfer process is complete, Canadian custody officials will place Martin under guard and she will be flown home under their care -- likely in handcuffs.

She is expected to be taken to a detention facility in Ontario until a parole board has heard her case, LaFlamme said.

She is expected to be set free soon after that, under Canada's two-for-one pre-sentencing custody rule. Under the policy, the two years and two months Martin has served account for almost all of her five-year sentence.

"We're also told it will take weeks before that process can actually take place," LaFlamme said.

Martin had refused to sign transfer documents before the judge ruled in her case. She said signing such a document before the ruling was akin to admitting her own guilt.

In addition to her prison sentence, Martin, 51, was fined the equivalent of $3,600.

'Politically motivated'

Her mother, Marjorie Bletcher, told Canada AM she thinks the guilty ruling was a politically motivated decision.

"I guess they had to do this in order to clear themselves for holding her for 2.2 years," she said.

"Maybe so they could absolve themselves from blame or something."

She said she's concerned about her daughter's physical and emotional state following the ruling. She said she firmly believes Martin is innocent.

"I want her back in Canada. I hope it won't take a long, long time because I don't think she can make a long, long time," she said.

Mounting legal costs

Paul Macklin, the founder of the Save Brenda Fund and former MP for Northumberland County, which includes Trenton, said he is encouraged by the government's efforts to bring Martin home quickly and is hopeful she will be returned within weeks, rather than months.

"That is at least encouraging to us because when we started out with our original goal it was to make sure we get Brenda back into Canada alive," Macklin said.

"And despite yesterday's setback, and although it was a significant setback, in another sense we are actually moving forward and we're just that much closer to getting her back."

Macklin said the group has raised $27,000 to help pay for Martin's legal fees, but that falls far short of the more than $100,000 in costs that have been incurred in her defence.

With files from The Canadian Press

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Trevor Wade
said

She was found guilty. Not by some third-world country. It was Mexico. No matter what your thoughts on this country, we need to believe in their system. Just like we'd expect the same if a Mexican was being prosecuted in Canada. If this was a man and not a crying woman? We'd not hear a peep.


Stop it!
said

This is now becoming an injustice to the Mexican people. If one receives severance pay in Canada it is required to be reported as income, is it not? The media have created this story.


James
said

Trevor, this comes down to a basic respect for human rights. In Canada, Brenda would not have spent 2 years in jail waiting for trial on this type of charge. Neither would a Mexican national in Canada on similar charges. As well, in Mexico you are presumed quilty until proven innocent. I believe that this whole procedure has been well planned by the "boys" in the backroom. The deal all along has been to convict Ms. Martin and give her a long sentence, to help the Mexican officials save face, meanwhile the wheels have been turning to have her kicked out of the Mexican jail into a Canadian jail where she will be eligible for parole almost immediately. It is this backroom diplomacy that bothers me. Basic human rights, as defined by the U.N. were ignored by an unfair Mexican justice system that is unfair to Mexicans as well as Canadians.


Scott
said

Uh...dude. Mexico IS a 3rd world country.


Chris
said

Two for one system? What the hell is that? So she's found guilty, and we're going to transfer her here and then set her free? What a joke! So from now on, just bawl like a 2 year old throwing a trantrum and the government will save you...that's what they did in this case. On the plus side, I'm glad I don't have to hear about this anymore. Brenda Martin complaining was starting to get annoying.


JDS
said

Trevor...Mexico IS a third world country by any definition of the word. Its justice system is notorious for bribery and corruption. Why do you think so many drug artels operate from there?

The government should first bring this victim home, then issue a travel advisory for Mexico.


Jack Notman
said

Brenda Martin was found guilty through a court system that isn't as "backwards" as our press portrays. It's disgraceful and an insult to Mexican authorities to pursue her return to our land-of-no-deterrents.


Ghyslain B.
said

Trevor, I disagree with your assessment of Mexico. Aside from its geographical location wtihin the Tropic of Cancer and being part of the North America continent, Mexico remains an underdeveloped country with mass poverty with a doubtful government. I wouldn't travel anywhere close to Mexico for any reason if at all avoidable.


Disgusted
said

The Mexican prosecution themselves have admitted to having no direct evidence linking Brenda Martin to the money scam. A law system in which you're guilty until you prove your innocence and where circumstantial evidence rules. Sounds kinda third world to me. This combined with the stonewalling every time another Canadian gets murdered down there I'd say is plenty of reason for for sensible Canadian tourists to stay away. Mexico is an outlaw country with a totally corrupt government. Always has been.


Gerald Skowronski
said

While I feel bad for Ms. Martin, one must realize that different laws apply in different countries. Never forget that you are a guest wherever you travel. Our interfering in her case is a hinderance. Would we want another government to tell us how to conduct our court system?

VK
said

Baltovich was imprisoned for much longer than Martin even if she was innocent. Look at our system before complaining about others. Give this a rest.


Dr.Reality
said

When you travel, you assume the rules of a Nation. Do your homework before boarding the plane. Find out these things BEFORE you leave. We sit here complaining injustice and blah, blah. However, if this is the way things are done in Mexico then so be it. Not all countries are like Canada, nor will they be. It is time for Canadians to wake up and realize the world is a cruel place and to stop expecting rampant socialism the world over. The Nanny state you enjoy is not the way of things in this world. The sooner you embrace it the better. I laugh at this because the same people on here crying foul are the same folks that are upset with the Afghan involvement. People grow up! Other Governments do not bend to your protests. "If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen"! Don't like it, Don't Go!


DW
said

Like Trevor said, we must trust the Mexican judicial system, they have the proof of her guilt. She has committed the crime in Mexico and should now spend the time in a Mexican prison. Why should the Canadian tax payer foot the bill for her crime.



Pierre
said

The justice system in that country is to blame... guilty by association??? Guilty until proven innocent? Two years before a trial?

Mexico is off my list of places for travel, I'll go to a country where I have some rights, thank you very much.


Nick T
said

I've enjoyed reading everyone's comments over the last few days. It's interesting to see how so many people attest to her innocence with no proof of such. Also, to guilt in the same manner. We know very little of this case except what has been presented to us by the media. Whether we think it's fair or not, she got her due process in another country and she was found guilty. We may not agree with their due process, but that's what it is. If you don't like it and think it's terrible, then don't go there yourself.


Averick
said

Remember Mahar Arar... this gentleman who was tortured in Syria.. showed more dignity and didn't whine as much as Ms Martin does.

Why would someone invest money in a business after being fired from her boss.. is she guilty? I don't know, .. is she innocent? I don't know.

What I do know is that we should stop playing the judiciary because of watching tears on the tv.


Maeve
said

She was found guilty even though they had no evidence against her?? That's a really great justice system. Go Mexico!



Vince M
said

Sure James - in Canada she would not have spent all that time in prison.

Do you mean like Robert Baltovich who was acquitted yesterday after 18 YEARS in prison in Canada?

It sure is a good thing we have a stellar justice system unlike those Mexicans.


Dave
said

I was originally defending her rights and wanted the Canadian goverment to rescue her, until I found out she hadn't lived in Canada for years. She was in the US for several years before Mexico. Suddenly as soon as she's in trouble she wants to go back to her roots in Canada. That I don't like. I definitely don't agree with the fact she gets 5 years and Mexico has absolutely no evidence that she knew what her boss was doing. I don't want my tax money to go towards someone who left Canada year's ago and until she got arrested wasn't living here.


Colonel Blimp
said

I feel bad for this lady, but I cant figure out why the national media is fixated on her situation. Why is it every time some Canadian of convenience ends up in trouble overseas there is a media outcry for us to send in the gunboats and rescue the person? You need to be careful where you travel abroad, that is what it comes down to. Another general rule of thumb is not to get involved with shadey people.


Vince M
said

Disgusted: "A law system in which you're guilty until you prove your innocence and where circumstantial evidence rules. Sounds kinda third world to me."

The Napoleonic Code is used in a lot of countries, including France. It has as many faults and benefits as the Jurisprudence system we use. I have no doubt the countries using it think our system is backward.


Wallace Ryan
said

That clinches it! I'm never going to Mexico! I'm really into not been murdered or framed for a crime I didn't commit.

The only way to fight this corruption of justice is to cancel any travel plans you have for Mexico!


Mike
said

Maybe this isn't fair, who knows, but she decided to leave Canada 10 years ago. Has she even paid taxes here for the last 10 years? Why should we pay for the politicians to get involved and travel to rescue her? Come on. She left her home ages ago and now wants us to help her. I'd rather have my tax dollars spent on something else.


Linda
said

Interesting comments from readers. Brings me back to the 3 'big boys' meeting on the topic of US Canada Mexico holding hands. Should someone living and working in that country not comply with their laws, and if broken suffer the consequences. If the big 3 were joined, what would her sentence be ?
How much money is this costing Canada ? is she going to pay it back ?


Bruce
said

One has to remember that they are not Canadian laws. As absure and corrupt as the notion of "Guilty until you prove yourself innocent" is, that is the law in Mexico. Hopefully this woman can hang on just a little longer until we can get her home to her family. Our hearts and prayers go out to Brenda. Just wait and see how quickly she is released once she out of Mexico.


Rene
said

I find it interesting how many people are of the opinion that a judicial system in another country has the same standards as Canada's. And yet there continues to be information given that proves just the opposite.

In Canada and the USA we pride ourselves on at least applying the principal of innocence until proven otherwise. Yet in Mexico they pride themselves on guilty until proven otherwise. If anyone had read the news articles using this premise as a filter they would have realized that it was a foregone conclusion that Brenda Martin would be found guilty. Even her lawyer said that in all of the material presented there was nothing that "proved her guilty" Well in Mexican lawyer language that means you're not getting out of jail.

Now any country that calls itself democratic, and yet premises its society on the need to prove innocence instead of guilt, is really only a country that pays lip service to the concept. Mexico insists it is democratic. Why? Because to do so puts it in the same playing field as Canada and the USA and thus allows trade agreements such as NAFTA to exist and hopefully bring economic prosperity to them. Canada and the USA allow this charade. Why? Because it serves our economic benefit to have Mexico in NAFTA so that we can continue to advance our own prosperity.

Don't for one minute believe that any of this doesn't have anything to do with money.

As to all those who profess the "let her rot in jail" attitude. What would you say when/if you went to Mexico and you were arrested on any charge, real or otherwise. Will you say that about yourself? And don't for one Mexican minute think it wouldn't happen to you. If anyone in Mexico wants to, they can accuse you of any crime, petty or otherwise, and you would end up in the same circumstances. Just think about this before you say that Canada should not repatriate its citizens under all circumstances possible.





Robin da Hood
said

The reality is that Mexico has its laws and judicial system and, although you may not agree with it, its their own affair. In fact it too bad if Canadians don't accept it. Frankly Canadians show the same kind of arrogance and delusional self righteousness as the Americans when it comes to the values and institutions of other countries. In Mexico one has to prove their innocence and not their guilt. Thats the way it is there. Apparently this woman did not do so regardless of all her weeping and acting the victim. If you don't like it don't travel there. I may not agree with there sense of justice but I still respect the fact that Mexicans have the right to choose their justice system and I would not boycott traveling there for that reason... actually its the Mexican air entry personal custom tax that would make me think twice (its almost $300 !!).



Dixie from Alberta
said

Different country, different rules. Before you cross the border make sure you are prepared for any consequences to your actions and don't expect the government back home to bale you out. By crying on TV you are not winning any sympathy.


Mimi Gely
said

When you go into another country - you are a guest and subject to their laws. If a woman bares her arms, or wears a mini skirt - or if you chew gum - you might be taken to a public square and have your head cut off - or just given 10 or 20 lashes! And the Canadian Consulate can't do a darned thing for you! Our legal system makes enough mistakes within our country - it's not perfect.and it doesn't travel. So, behave yourself when you enter another country. And, Brenda, my heart does go out to you.


Richard
said

Before all of you blame Mexico and the Government, read the Robert Baltovich story and many like his. Do this before you complete your rants about their backwoods justice system. It's not perfect anywhere. And many of you who said you would now never would go to Mexico probably weren't going anyway. Mexico is a fine place to visit. Like any country, stay out of trouble.


John in Kitchener
said

Mexico is not a "Third World" nation. In fact, the term "Third World" was coined to reference countries that did not align themselves with the Soviet Union or the U.S. during the Cold War era.

Because of their apparent neutrality, they did not receive development support from either of those two economic powerhouses (who essentially used financial aid as a way to buy allies), and therefore often were or became impoverished.

Since the Cold War is over, there is no "Third World" to speak of, they are instead "Developing" or "Underdeveloped."

I just thought I would make this point so that the banter back and forth about whether or not Mexico is a third world country can stop. Mexico is however, a developing country.


Ted
said

I can tell you this much, I won't be going to Mexico. Seems like they dance to their own tune. A tune that Canada should not play. Time to rethink NAFTA.


G.P.
said

Unfortunate and sad for this pooor woman, yes. However, it will not deter me from going to Mexico to visit my in-laws. Hard-working, honest, and as decent as folk as you would find here. As a traveller to Mexico and elsewhere, I always make sure to pack an extra pair of common sense and awareness. In her case, she had been living in Mexico for quite some time. She should have been fully aware of the consequences of her actions - good intentions or not. Failing that, the team of Foreign Diplomats working at the Canadian Consulate in Guadalajara should have been on top of the situation months ago. They really dropped the ball on that one, and that is what we should be worrying about when we travel to foreign countries. We should feel comforted knowing that there are people in place abroad to represent our best interests - not out socializing at cocktail parties and enjoying the good life at our expense.


Elaine
said

I realize this has been overly played out in the news lately, but I wouldn't call Brenda a "whiner" like these men are. Men (North American) have been held in Mexican jails for such things as being caught with marijuana. Books have been written about them. Like with Baltovich, if there is no evidence, and she is returned to Canada, let her go. Murder is not the same as crime involving money. Martha Stewart and Conrad Black have not had to suffer through their crimes in such terrible conditions, with their cases not being tried for 2 years. You men should be ashamed for pooh-hooing this as a weak, whiny woman making a big deal over something they think she may have done. I think, whether or not she knew about her boss, or was involved in any way, she has paid the price. No reason to die over a money crime and she does not look very healthy any more. Personally, I would not want to work in another country with laws so unlike ours and corruption which everyone knows about, but lots of people want to do something different and exciting with their lives like working in Mexico.


Steve in Nepean
said

What gets me is the bias of acceptance the media has displayed toward this woman.

There has been scant objective reporting of facts which is a reflection of shoddy reporting.




Jonathan
said

Thank the merciful heavens that this is now officially a legal matter rather than assumably a political one. I for one was disgusted how people (even on here) and some media outlets cried for Stephen Harper's head in this matter. No longer do I have to hear them OR Brenda Martin's broken-record whiny voice.


Trevor Wade
said

Great to see I stirred up some emotions. I'll state it again, if I was in Mexico and under her circumstances and I was crying on TV saying I was innocent? I don't think one camera would be near me. I wouldn't "be a story". I may have missed some answers also. One, why didn't we hear about this woman the day she landed in jail? Why wasn't she screaming from the mountain then? Or was she? I never heard of her until lately. Not that it's illegal? but look at her story. She should have hated her old boss yet she invested money?? Do I have this correct. I'd love to see the file on this. She is now a convicted criminal. Fine. Bring her home to serve her 5 years in Canada. Or maybe we should hold our own trial on the issue in Canada when she gets back. Kidding.


Wendy
said

Sorry guys - I do not agree - We have heard time and time again of the atrocities in the Mexican system of dirty cops etc. I for one will not cross that border into Mexico for fear of something happening. I also feel that after 2 years behind bars in Mexico, it is high time that our prime minister got off his duff and helped out - a little of too little too late?


Frank Blasetti
said

I am sick of hearing about Brnenda Martin. She has gotten way too much media attention because of her outbursts of emotion, crying and her repeatedly wailing, "I'm innocent! I have done nothing wrong!" I will agree that it was a travesty that she has been kept in jail for 2 years without being found guilty - but now that she has been found guilty she must pay the price. Why are Canadian diplomats flying down to Mexico to expidite here transfer to Canada? Why is she, a convicted criminal, being given such special attention? Does the Canadian government give such special attention to every Canadian who is convicted in a foreign country? Why is Brenda Martin so different from everyone else? Just because she and her mother and friends are making so much noise, and because the media can't resist the sensationalism and are thereby giving this story way too much play time, the government officials are being goaded into giving this matter special attention when they would normally look the other way and let due process take its course. Enough already! She has been found guilty and she should be left alone to pay the price.


Jim
said

With all of Canada's eyes drawn to Mexico by the media over this, do you really think the Judge would have made the verdict without a solid case?



Susan Jorgensen Winnipeg
said

Brenda and her mother KEEP HOPE. We want her back in Canada and we don't want suicide on our faces! BRING BRENDA BACK TO CANADA SAFE.


VIVE MEXICO
said

It's getting very boring listening to criminals slinging mud at Mexico everytime the commit crimes there - invariably they claim it's a "3rd world" "backward" "corrupt" society. As a Canadian who spends several months per year in Mexico I can tell you that they have all of the high-end retail stores we have here and then some and not just in Cancun.


zac
said

Canada should "teach" Mexico a lesson . . . as Canada "teaches" Afghanistan.




Dawn
said

People, in case you haven't noticed, Mexico is a 3rd world country as was said earlier on by someone else. My relatives used to own a vacation property in Mexico, I've been there five times myself and the country is totally corrupt-the police, the government, everyone except the poor downtrodden Mexican people. Friends of my relatives were arrested on trumped up charges (the friends saw the police open the trunk of their car and put drugs in there) and they had to pay money to get the police to stop persecuting them.
The Canadian government should issue a travelers advisory against Mexico since it seems to be open season on Canadians the last few years in that country. I, for one, will never set foot in Mexico again.
I truly feel badly for that poor woman and can only hope that the Canadian government can at least get her back to Canada.
And as for those of you who claim Canadians are naive? You are absolutely correct-I've travelled around the world by myself and Canadians live in a very protected, isolated bubble. People in some other countries neither think nor behave as most Canadians accept as civilized. Wake up! Canada is no paradise,we have our problems, but for my money, Canada is the only place to live.


Ron Speakman
said

uh, dude, Mexico is a second world country, not third world - big difference.

it's amazing how so many Canadians feel like they're better informed based on some news reports to pronounce Martin an innocent victim, when a judge who actually looked at all the evidence gave her a guilty sentence.

It is so hard to imagine an older white woman actually did commit a crime. I don't, and think she should serve out her sentence and the media should stop wasting our time with this nonsense.


JDP
said

The more I hear about this woman the less I care. I am sick and tired of all the "it could happen to you" comments that make it on this board. Do you really think that is the case? Do you really think that Mexico would willy-nilly prosecute tourists? They could kiss their tourism industry - a big part of their national revenue - goodbye. And besides, Brenda Martin was NOT a tourist, but a resident for all intents and purposes. I will visit Mexico someday as a tourist, give freely of my money there, and feel safe because I am not mingling in the criminal element. Tens of thousands of Canadians before me have done so, and will continue to do so.

The Mexican authorities knew Canada was watching this case, and as a result I can assure you that any influence on the judges coming from governmental authorities would have been to acquit - but they chose to convict, which says something in my mind. Who would 'pay off' the judges to convict her? Who would benefit? Sure, there may be a corrupt legal system there, but I know enough about international relations that when the major source of your tourism revenue is watching the case of one of its nationals, the system cleans itself up real quick. Nothing that happened in that trial happened in a vacuum - the Judges were aware of the implications of this woman. And yet, there must be something very damning against Ms. Martin if given the circumstances MEXICO decided to convict. Diplomatic immunity does NOT extend to tourists.

It is interesting that we as Canadians look at this case and tout our 'superior' legal system on the same day there was ANOTHER acquittal for ANOTHER wrongful conviction here. Which brings me to another shameful aspect of this case: when she 'survives' her prison sentence, you can rest assured she'll be suing the Canadian government for millions because they somehow owed her a duty of care when she lived abroad for 10 years. Superior legal system in deed...


Deanna
said

I was with the understanding they had no proof. She was never charged with anything before now, only held in prison. Even her former boss said she had no involvement. I agree when your in a different country we need to realize its not Canada and respect their laws, but I am Canadian and would expect the Government to help if your just wasting in a prison with no trial or charge.


Vancouver Girl
said

I am sick of hearing about this "story". Ms Martin hasn't lived in Canada for a decade and was working illegally in Mexico. If I was planning on living in a foreign country I would make sure I understood my rights (or lack of) and I would have a visa. I've known since my first trip to Mexico at the age of 12 that they practice Napoleonic Law.

I will continue to vacation in Mexico.

ps - has she been paying Cdn taxes this whole time? why is it our gov'ts job to get her out?


Almost Me
said

I was arrested in Cancun Mexico at 11AM in the Cartier Store for not paying a bribe. I had purchased about 4k at the store and a 'guarda' demanded 200$, I said no. I was detained and thrown into a truck by the Policia Qintana Roo to the horror of the Cartier Store staff, one of whom called the Canadian Embassy. I was beaten with various metal object for 6 hours while never having been told anything. I was then told '1800 por preedom' i gave them all I had, 1600USD and they let me go. They later followed me back to my hotel(Hyatt Caribe Cancun) and tried to get more money - or worse. I did receive some help from the Canadian Consulate and from the Cartier Store. I need facial reconstructive surgery to repair damage from being struck by a gun. You think the Mexican justice system is 'just'? I thank G-d I escaped alive. Do NOT go to Mexico, just dont.


Kevin
said

Mexico is not the only country in the world that puts the owness of guilt or innocense on the defendant. We just don't do it that way here. Do I think she is guilty, not my place to say, but I have a hard time understanding why she would take a severance pay from an employer and then turn around and invest that severance pay into the company of an employer who just fired her.
The fact of the matter is that within weeks she will be back on Canadian soil and with a promise to the Mexican gov't that she spend a reasonable amount of her sentence in jail. Under Canadian law she has allready served half of her sentence in custody awaiting trial and that time counts as 2.5 years served here and will be paroled almost immediately.


James
said

The train of discussion is entirely correct:

* if you go to another country, you have to abide by that country's laws;

* Mexico is a third world country racked with corruption and lacking any meaningful judicial process;

* various international agencies, including the UN, Amnesty International, the Hague; have repeatedly condemned Mexico's human rights record, inclusive of their judicial process.

* Canada routinely refuses Court Orders and warrants not just from Mexico but the US as well because of a lack of judicial process and prejudice.

* One only has to examine the growing list of "wrongfully convicted" in Canada to conclude we shouldn't be so smug.

The only acceptable choice is for the immediate return to Canada of this woman, granted freedom, and no record of a criminal conviction from Mexico. Failure to do so should be met with a stern diplomatic response and economic sanction. We have the clout, we should use it.

Regardless, a travel advisory by the government is now an absolute must!


Western Eyes
said

This not the first time Canadians have heard of the nasty things that can happen while in Mexico.

Quite honestly, I am not going there, just the fact that there is a risk of becoming a political pawn is enough for me to say Mexico can do without my Canadian $$$$.


I will Visit Europe instead!!!


Mike Macdonald
said

I don't know why all the discussion about Mexico. The fact is she was found guilty. Can we now all talk about something else? I am sick to death of the Brenda Martin topic.


James in Calgary
said

Why is Canada bending over backwards to help this woman? She was arrested for a crime commited in a forgien country, convicted of the crime and sentenced for her crime. How many criminals ever actually say, "Ok you got me." Now she expects that the people of Canada will spend thousands of dollars to have her transfered from Mexico to Canada. I say let her file the paper work and allow the wheels of the system roll on at the same pace they do for the rest of us. I'm sick of Canadians being asked to pay to repatriate criminals. If she wants to come to Canada fine she pays 100% of the bills.


Marc
said

My boyfriend and I have made a cross on Mexico as a travel destination. Much better countries to visit!


LS
said

People seem to confuse a legal system with a justice system. Neither Canada or Mexico has a justice system. The difference is that in Mexico you are assumed guilty until proven (ha!) innocent where in Canada you are assumed innocent until proven (ha!) guilty. Yes the sarcasm is intentional.


Norm Roberts
said

Several years ago I felt it was not advisable to travel too Mexico; this is just one more case of Canadians not receiving justise in Mexico. I wonder how many Canadians are in Mexican jails and not been able to attract media attention.
It is time that Harper asked his amigo to provide details on every Canadian incarcerated in Mexico and begin release procedings on any that may have been jailed unjustly.


Fool
said

From what I understand, in Mexico you have to prove your innocence. Brenda Martin could not prove that she was innocent, so she should have to spend the sentence that was handed down. It was her fault that she was working for him, and our country should not have to deal with her blunder. And remember What happens in Mexico, stays in Mexico.


Ian
said

Enough is enough now. Hopefully when she gets back to Canada and serves the rest of her sentence, all this media attention will come to an end. As for some people seeing her now being treated in a special way, that's not neccesarily true. Canada has a Federal law called the International Transfer of Offenders Act which deals with cases like these. She is not the first Canadian to be transfered back to Canada to serve the remainder of their sentence. There are many treaty countries that are involved in these cases. I must say though that in this case things seem to be expedited somewhat. As for those who say that she wouldn't have spent two years in prison awaiting her trial, I agree. We here in Canada are loathe to keep anyone in jail, lest we deprive them of their right to go on and commit more crimes. In this case though, it's not surprising that they didn't simply release her since she is not a Mexican and likely would not have returned for her trial anyway.


Timothy
said

It may well be that there are dozens of other Brenda Martins caught up in the Mexican judicial mill but how many of them have a friend like Debra Tieleman. It is this committed woman it seems that has built this bonfire of public awareness as a last ditch effort to save her friend and it looks like she is about to pull it off. Don't we all wish we had such a friend.


Common Sense
said

This may sound harsh but if I'm getting tired of seeing that picture of the near tears Brenda Martin. She worked in Mexico illegally, lived there knowing she was subject to their laws; was found guilty in their court. Enough. If she is able to transfer to Canada to serve her sentence; sure, why not? But enough of these people saying she's a victim of a third world court. She chose to live there. She wasn't born into living there. These people who say they're so sympathetic to what this "innocent" woman has gone through, you have no idea if she's innocent or not, be quiet.


Gail
said

It seems to me that common sense would say that no CEO of an Investment Company shares the company secrets with their domestic help including the cook.

Most employers keep much of the business decisions from lower level staff.

The probability of Brenda Martin being part of the scam is extremely low and she should be exonerated and freed




Dale Wilson
said

Great. Minister Kenney is off to Mexico to "expedite" the process. This story has garnered way more media attention than it deserved and now the Government of Canada is about to spend god knows how much money to interfere in the Mexican justice system - to look like the good guys. It stinks Jason, it really stinks. We'll move mountains to get somebody out of trouble they caused themselves but folks in Canada like Robert Baltovich can wait YEARS to have their case heard and a review completed.


Tara
said

I would have felt bad for Brenda Martin if she had not washed her hands of being Canadian and had not lived in Mexico for 8 YEARS before being arrested. She was also there without the required paperwork. She chose to live there and make it her home. Let her live with the consequences then also. Suddenly she is now a Canadian wanting the Canadian government to bail her out after turning her back on Canada and moving there in the first place. Nope, I don't want my tax dollars paying for her jail time here.


Jim Sturge
said

After reading the many articles placed here regarding Brenda Martin; yes, I do lend a sympathetic ear to the case, but I have not found Mexico to be the place of condemnation some of you set it out to be. I have made many visits there over the past couple of years and have nothing only positive things to say
about the area. Going back again real soon. But justice should and will prevail.


trailer
said

I strongly disagree with our officials interfering with the Mexican justice system. When in another country you must go by their rules. Letting her free once she lands in Canada or shortly after arriving in Canada is a real joke. I am glad that many others commenting on this story feel the same way.


Bernard Romanycia
said

Let's hope the transfer process is smooth and without further complications.


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