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Date: Thu. Apr. 17 2008 12:21 PM ET

A majority of Canadians feel their country makes too many accommodations to visible minorities, according to a new poll.

The survey, conducted for CTV News and the Globe and Mail by The Strategic Counsel, showed 61 per cent of Canadians felt Canada was doing too much.

In Quebec, 72 per cent said too many accommodations were being made.

Fifty-five per cent of Canadians living in large cities said Canada was making too many accommodations for visible minorities in comparison to 71 per cent in communities of less than 30,000.

"I think in a lot of smaller communities, people's exposure to this is through the media, they see a lot of sensationalized stories -- the debate over Shariah law, public funding for religious schools, whether women should be wearing veils to vote," Peter Donolo, a partner with the polling firm the Strategic Counsel, told CTV.ca.

"So they'll always see these flashpoint issues whereas the reality of living in a large urban area where there might be large numbers of visible minorities is just a lot more mundane."

In Canada, about five million Canadian citizens are members of visible minority groups.

The survey showed 48 per cent of Canadians felt that number was a positive for the country. Nine per cent said it was a negative and 42 per cent were not sure.

Of Liberal supporters, 55 per cent said it was a good thing for Canada while only 38 per cent of Tory supporters felt the same way. Fifty-three per cent of NDP backers, 56 per cent of Bloc Québécois supporters and 59 per cent of Green Party backers said the amount of visible minority groups was a positive.

Meanwhile, 88 per cent of Canadians said they felt their community was welcoming to people from visible minority groups.

However, the survey also showed that 45 per cent of Canadians felt new immigrants hold onto their customs and traditions for too long.

Forty-seven per cent of Canadians felt new Canadians integrate into Canadian life at a natural and acceptable pace.

In communities less than 30,000, 54 per cent felt new Canadians held onto customs for too long, compared to 42 per cent in cities with more than one million people.

Donolo said some of the survey's results might help to explain certain policy decisions made in Ottawa -- such as the Tory initiative to ban face veils at voting booths.

"They (the Tories) clearly understand there's an anxiety particularly among their own voters about this," said Donolo. "They also understand that there's potential appeal for Bloc Quebecois voters who also feel strongly on that particular issue of accommodations."

The survey showed 82 per cent of Bloc Québécois voters felt Canada yields too much in making accommodations.

However, Donolo said the Tories have to be careful to avoid being stereotyped as anti-immigrant or anti-visible minority.

That could be detrimental since "they're trying to broaden their base and appeal to voters in minority communities," he said.

The poll of 1,000 Canadians was conducted from last Thursday to Sunday, and is accurate to within 3.1 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.

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Doug
said

Well I find it rather bizzare when I go to a bank machine and Chinese is an option for a language.
Last time I checked French and English were the official languages of Canada.
I wouldn't expect English as an option for service at a bank machine in China.
I would have to learn the language.....


M. Cameron
said

Perhaps then we should stop accommodating them by allowing so many to immigrate here.


Dean
said

I believe we should welcome immigrants to this country provided we need their skills and provided they agree to live under our laws and customs. Presumably that is what brought them to our shores in the first place. Why should we change our societal values for immigrants? Does any other country in the world do this? No, because they prefer to live by their laws and customs. We are quickly becoming a laughing stock in the world because we will change just about anything we value in order not to offend anyone, or to garner votes in an election. Call me cynical but that's the way I see it.


Mark
said

I think I have to agree with the survey. How many times are we told when traveling to another country that we need to be aware of THEIR laws and are required to obey local laws and customs?

Why must Canadians accommodate so much?

Of course, it is much different when we talk about human rights and discrimination laws in employment, housing, etc. These laws should remain as is and aren't so much about accommodating, but ensuring basic human rights are met.


Doug
said

I challenge anyone who really believes that minorities get too many accommodations to live a week in their shoes. I suspect people who feel this way also complain about how difficult it is to live in Canada. Most of us, who are blessed by the fortunate miracle of being born in Canada, have no sense of what it is like to be an immigrant or visible minority. Take some time to understand others and your will lose your resentment.


johnn
said

Most reasonable Canadians will agree that "re sonable accomodation" is a good thing.
The definition of "resonable accomodation" is a more contentious issue. I would suggest that reasonable Canadians will not agree with many rulings of a Human Rights Commission , such as the one which exempts a newcomer from adhering to hygene rules in the food industry.
When "resonable accomodation"becomes "unresonable accomodation", it will backfire, and those new Canadians who sincerely wish to become non-hyphenated Canadians, will suffer theconsequences.


Chrsitie Kivisto
said

I find it kind of sad that so many Canadians don't appreciate the diversity of our country. Canada is seen as a very tolerant nation by people from other countries - I wish we were really that way. I especially don't understand how so many Canadians say that immigrants hold on to their own culture for too long. Every person has a culture - just because yours happens to be shared by most of your neighbours doesn't mean that it's any better than that of a new Canadian.


TJP
said

Wow. Some of these comments already are borderline xenophobic.


Dallas
said

I was going to make a long statement here but Dean said it perfectly!


Yvonne
said

Actually, Doug, the larger centers in China do offer English as a language option on their ATMs. It's all about respecting the ethnic groups that frequent certain places in large numbers. Why not a Chinese option at Canadian ATMs, if the population calls for it. It's a sign of respect and welcome - the mark of a gracious nation.


Ken
said

I must say that I disagree with Dean. While I am a 22 year old white male who had to fund his own way through University because there were literally no scholarships for the likes of me, I see great value in changing some of our values to accept other races into our country.

The less accommodating we are, the fewer immigrants will come here because that would then mean they have to change more in order to fit in. Change in that manner is quite a daunting task.

Also, while some countries may laugh at us for changing our values, there are those who understand, and may even respect us more for it. Japan for example, in their culture saving face is almost paramount. If I remember my schooling correctly, there are something like 16 ways a Japanese person can avoid saying "no" while still getting their point across. While this is not quite the same as changing your set of values, it is not far off, as both are done so as to not offend the other parties involved.

Furthermore, the world would be a better place were we able to create a global value system, perhaps Canada is paving the way for such a system.


Kris
said

Most of you that are scared about our country falling apart probably don't have any good friends of colour.

Once you have a few, you'll realize our country is just fine.

We'll always have our indentity: the mighty beaver, moose, hockey, Tim Hortons, mounties...

So calm down.


Canadian Citizen
said

Chrsitie Kivisto: Being of Italian decent, when i was young, i was brought up with the following philosophy by my parents and grandparents..."while i am home, i am Italian and have a culture that is nice to follow, but the moment i step out of the house, i follow the law of the land because we are Canadian". i don't believe we are not appreciating our diversity, but at the same time, being diverse does not mean losing what it is to be Canadian.


Roxanna
said

Call me crazy, but except for the native Canadians, didn't all families immigrate to Canada at some point in the past? How can you say that immigrants should completely conform to "Canadian" customs when these customs have slowly evolved from all over the world as well?


Adam
said

Our customs in Canada are based on multiculturalism and tolerance. I don't think we are selling ourselves out or garnering votes by allowing people to maintain their culture.

It is easy to say that immigrants should change to suit us when we are not the ones expected to give up what we believe...


Phil
said

Doug: Machines of foreign banks in China show Chinese and English. Those of local chinese banks in China show only chinese. Bank machines in US show six languages. It's business. FYI.

Phil


Khai
said

What's not addressed is what kind of accommodations people object to. Personally, I think most of our accommodations are good. I don't get what Doug's problem is with Chinese on the bank machines, as long as he has an English option (and yes, they do have English on the ATMs in China). However, I do feel our country goes too far when it comes to health and safety issues. Allowing certain religions to potentially forego helmets, or take ceremonial daggers into courts or schools -- those issues shouldn't even be given consideration.


James
said

I wonder when the first waves of immigrants, and all who followed, came to Canada, did they try to adjust to the Native Canadian way of living? No they buried the native Canadians under the European style of living and worshipping. Who are we to say to somebody who wants to come to Canada now, that they have to make all the changes. What usually happens is that the following generations of immigrants make the change to become more Canadian and adopt the language and culture. We should open our doors to all peace loving people of the world and welcome them with open arms. It will only make us stronger as a country and a people.


Conrad
said

This is absolutely of no surprise to me - while I am not a visible minority person but a First Nations person I know all to well the racial intolerance that exists in this country for immigrants and those of us whose family roots are only from this land. Canadians like to ballyho and chide about the melting pot in the US without truly looking in the mirror and admitting that Canada is more of a melting pot than the US. Canadians racial intolerance is nothing surprising and I know it will NEVER change - simply because the dominant cultures want to continue to dominate others.


JP
said

I would agree with this article, we bend far to much. I think as a society we are so afraid of offending someone that we will do anything to keep them happy. The example I would have is the holidays, why can't I put up a banner saying merry Christmas, uh oh..I might offend someone, I can't believe anyone would get upset over me wishing people a merry Christmas, if you don't celebrate it, then don't worry about it. Do you think in other countries they say happy holidays...probley not, they celebrate there holidays the way they want....Why can't we. I think as a society we need to be a bit less emotional....I like so say "live and let live"


nancy
said

Dean hit the nail on the head. I am not against immigration from other countries as long as the people are paying their way and contributing something positive to our society. I have visited many countries and attended functions while there. I have respected their laws and customs and I expect the same when they come to our country to visit or live here. As Dean says they chose Canada and asked us to let them live here. They can practice their cultures and religious beliefs but don't try to change ours.


Sh
said

So I read a few of these comments, there is a borderline between the topic and letting out your true feelings of "immigrants" and borderline of being racial.

I have to agree with a few of these people comments meaning "Calm down" you act like the world is going into war, I love canada because of its melting pot. I do agree regardless of COLOUR, ETNICITY or beliefs there is SOME of ALL ethnic groups that take advantage of the system and Yes true enough sometimes "Some" are granted everything by the govt. At the same time, there are ALOT of HARD working "immigrants" in this country. DO NOT PAINT ALL WITH THE SAME PAINT BRUSH! I have friends of all colour, sizes, shapes etc this is WHY I AM PROUD TO BE CANADIAN. otherwise move out to the States and you will see the difference than!


Kevin
said

I think that the information provided is actually what Canadians think is happening within our society but are too afraid to speak out for fear of reprisal. I do bring immigrants to this country for a Canadian company and I dont think anyone wants to stop the immigration of people to make our country stronger, however our governments must start paying attention to the people that are from here. Too many children today that live in our own backyards are dealing with poverty but yet our governements do very little about it. Instead of the millions of dollars being spent on recruiting people lets take care of those at home first then bring them over to enjoy what we can offer. Charity starts at home.


steve I. C.
said

What makes Canada great is that we are free to do as we please as long as its law abiding. No one is asking us to change, we are just asked to be accommodating to others.


Georg AP
said

I'm an immigrant from Africa and i feel that change is a necesity for the growth of any Country but when we start changing the laws based on religious grounds to suit one particular group of immigrants, it alienates the rest.

Alex
said

I believe that everyone is missing the point here.
No one in their right mind thinks that an immigrant shouldn't be allowed to preserve their culture or have their language offered at ATMs etc...
The real issue is that does this automatically mean that our own (Canadian) culture should be undermined by the presence of these other cultures. This is what is driving a lot of people mad. We are being asked to change, often by our own over-sensitive people, to chance some facets of our culture to not offend newcomers. If we don't protect our own culture, then who else is going to do it.


Norm
said

There is a reason countries around the world are now opting out of multiculturalism. It is because they are losing their own identities by accommodating new immigrants too much and too far.
Also, it is really sad that we treat immigrants better than our own seniors.


Jamie
said

One more point if I may regarding the Chinese option at bank machines. Though English and French are oue two official languages, we must not forget that the Chinese community sacrificed more lives than any other in the building of our roads, bridges and railroads that helped make us a nation.

You will also find when travelling around the world that most bank machines include English even in countries where it is not their official language.


J
said

I'm all for people immigrating to Canada, but I do believe they should be required to speak one of the official languages of the country and not use their children as translators. If we immigrated to their country we would be expected to learn their language, it’s ignorant for them not to do the same.


Ken
said

There is no one in Canada that is native to this land. Everyone comes from a line of immigrantion. The only reason why there is this current debate is because most of the current immigration is coming from visible minorities, not white Europeans. People seem to forget this.

As a VERY integrated visible minority (having been born and raised in Canada), I often receive comments on how minorities should adapt more and then I get criticism for how "white washed" I am from those same people.


R
said

If businesses wants to offer services in other languages, so be it. It only make sense that they want to broaden their competitive advantage provided that they continue to offer it in both French and English. It is really that bizzare that it is being offered in something else other then the official language? The economy is a global one these days and believe it or not businesses around the world have to adapt even if it means offering services in another language.


Jeff M
said

I've actually lived in a country where I was a visible minority. Its not easy, and its not fun. As far as I'm concerned, the more we can do to make ones transition into our country easier, the better. Besides, a country is not static. It is constantly changing based upon its populous. Its not like our language is disappearing, and its not as if our lives our being made anymore difficult by accommodating visible minorities needs. Just deal with it.


Garry
said

I think the survey is shows that people from bigger cities are more 'tolerant' than those from smaller centers. This is misleading. When conducting the survey there will naturally be more (visible) minorities responding. That in itself will not allow an accurate reflection of how natural born Canadians feel (good or bad). This survey merely perpetuates the myth that small town Canadians look at immigration/immigrants differently (i.e. negatively) than Canadians from urban centers. There is simply disoportionately more visible minorities. What are they going to say when asked if they're getting 'too much accommodation'?

As for those who suggest that somehow these results show some sort of intolerance, I'd suggest that is how many have attempted to shut down debate in this and many areas.


Peter
said

Chrsitie Kivisto, aka Canadian Citizen got it right. I am of european background too. Nobody has to "loose" their culture, but if you come to Canada, you should respect and understand Canadian laws, culture, etc. too. By no means do immigrants have it easy here in Canada, I agree, but my grandparents did not have it easy too when they came here either. I would dare to say it probably was harder back then, then it is now. That being said, they are proud Canadians.


Al
said

I am always confused by this. I am from the West Indies, and have lived here twice as long as I did in my land of origin. I work with some kids of new immigrants who cannot afford to wear proper shoes or clothing because of their financial state. The often live t families to an apartment until the find work elsewhere. Walk a mile in their shoes and you will ask what accommodations?

Also, why is it OK to be Canadian Italian, Canadian Jewish, Canadian Ukranian etc. but other hyphenated Canadians are seen as treatening? I believe my kids, born in Canada, are as Canadian as anyone, but with richer heritage.

Thanks to the diversity in the schools they attend, their life is that much richer than those who are, unfortunately, not exposed to such a wonderfully diverse way of life. When I speak to my kids about the friends at school I cannot help but ask where is he/she from - I find that exciting. Lots of differents foods, culture, understanding of life the world over and being Canadian first.

What I have learned over my 48 years of life is that we are all the same (good, bad and somewhere in between). Break down the barriers an life will be better for all.


MHR Anti-redneck
said

Wow.. I am amazed by selfish comments made by many redneck who think Canada is their world but they need to see that EARTH is a big world with many cultures and we should bend in with world. That is how an empire AND society grow into a strong proud society or empire.


Paul
said

Go back not too far and imagine how the Native people of this continent felt about the "immigrants" coming over here and getting too many "accommodations". The fallout of colonization continues to negatively effect the Native people of North America to this day. Think people not speaking English is a big problem? Imagine if you were beaten for speaking the language of your heritage - this happened to Native people not that long ago in the Canadian school system.

The typical irony is that when looking back on history, people are eager to seize upon and own events that paint the country in a good light, like WW2, but are just as quick to say "I wasn't even born then so what's that got to do with me?" when it comes to the brutal realities of colonization and other not so pleasant parts of history that made this country what it is.


Derek
said

I am the son of Chinese immigrants, I was born and raised here in Vancouver: I am proud to say I am "CANADIAN", NOT "Chinese-Canadian!!".
Having moved to Richmond 4 years ago to be closer to work, I can say , " Yes, we over accomadate immigrants who have a sense of expectation and entitlement to be overly accomadated." Example: in the restaurant district, there are MANY businesses that have signs ONLY in Chinese, not even English and Chinese!!



GT
said

Canadians have always been very welcoming and why should it stop?

It all started with the Native Peoples who gave up their land to the first settlers, remember?


Lorne
said

I have no problem with immigration into Canada.
The majority of the minorities are willing to abide by the rules and regulations of this country and do contribute to the well being of Canada.
It's that small percentage of minorities that refuse to accept Canadian culture and want things their own way.
It's this group that has created some resentment amongst Canadians and a feeling of so called racism.
It's to that small radical group that I say, "if you don't like Canadian culture, go back home and see if your life gets any better."


Ray Jacques
said

We are all immigrants.
I have recently read that even our native peoples have roots in Mongola

We are all immigrants


jen
said

To JP; That "Happy Holidays" argument is so played out. Who is stopping you from putting up a Merry Christmas banner?

Immigrants to Canada adapt in many ways. They may have to learn the language, deal with the weather, learn the laws. And they adapt to many of our customs although there is no law requiring them to do so. If a Canadian moves to another part of the world he will probably adapt in the same ways, but he will also seek out things that remind him of his country of origin like friendships with other Canadians, Canadian products, and services in his mother tongue. There’s nothing wrong with that and it is no threat to the country he is currently living in.

Accommodating people who are different than ourselves, whether they are visible minorities or people with differing opinions, is an excellent exercise in tolerance and humanity – and it can be very rewarding.



Shocker
said

So we're a nation of ignorant, intolerant racists. Shocker.

Visible minorities have been trying to tell us that for decades but, every time they do we tell them to 'shut up or go back home'.




Mark
said

As an immigrant to Canada I only expect to be treated not differently than any other citizen.
I don't need or ask for any special accomodations. Am bringing to this country skills that most Canadians do not possess, as many other immigrants.
I agree 100% that whomever wants to come to Canada -or any other country-, must be observant of the law.
How ever I have strong cultural heritage that am not about to change and I intent to pass it on to my 2 children.
I do not understand what is the issue of some people claiming immigrants cling to their passed way of life, if these customs are not against the law, there should not be a problem.
Good manners are universal, you either have them or not, regardless of your origin or color.


Neil
said

Canada opting to open up to higher immigration and accommodating other cultures has not harmed this country.
Quite the opposite actually, for many years we have enjoyed the highest standards of living and are envied everywhere as the best place to live.

I think if you graphed immigration and quality of life for all the worlds’ countries you would see there is a direct relationship.
A larger percent of visible minorities are contributing to the good of Canadian society them the population as a whole.



R/H
said

"Dean"
Right on, Dean. My sentiments exactly!


Matt
said

The ignorance reflected in some of these comments is quite sickening. The idea that we should stop allowing "so many to immigrate here" is preposterous. Besides the explicit social reality, that we (as in non-aboriginal) are all immigrants to this country, there is something else to be said. We have a growing economy and country that depends on people to work. I don't know if you've checked our country's birthrate by we are simply not producing enough children to accommodate the needs of the today and more importantly, the future.

So before using this forum to vent your frustrations rooted in xenophobia, please consider the vital role that immigrants play in our society. I am talking about everything from the Tim Horton's cashier to the engineers that designed the blackberry.

For those of you claiming, "we need to take care of our own people first". It is this kind of divisive mentality that makes our country less and less progressive.




Maggie
said

Any immigrants moving to our country should be forced to speak our language and integrate totally into our society.
They should have no special consideration given to them. I was born in this country and I get no special consideration and neither do I expect any. I am proud to be Canadian and so should they.


DavidL
said

Canadians don't travel enough; they are more insulated from the world than many other countries; and they believe that citizens born here are more Canadian than immigrants. Many forget that Canada was founded by immigrants and that if you were born here, your parents or grandparents were likely immigrants. Baby-boomers are beginning to retire en mass. The younger generation is having less children and waiting longer to have them. This means we will only grow our population through increased immigration. I don't think it's asking too much to make immigrants feel welcome. Let's keep the doors, and our minds, open people.


dbs
said

I have to agree with most of the comments. Multiculturalism in Canada doesn't work. Too many times, minorities are promoting their ideals to influence political decisions. What ever happened to being a proud Canadian. I was born in Canada and consider myself a Canadian first. I don't call myself a Scottish-Canadian. My ancestors arrived generations ago. Of course we have our ideals, but what happened that someone decided to call themselves an African-Canadian? Did they not arrive in this country to celebrate what Canada is? I don't mind someone celebrating their heritage, as long as they fly the Canadian Flag first and foremost.


Vik
said

The article states that this research is based on what people perceive as immigrants being "given to many accomodations", rather than if immigrants are given too many accomdations based on fact.

I agree, there are some groups who would like to cultivate their own niche in Canada, and maintain their customs. However this is happening due to the fact that these newer immigrants (post 1970s) are not of European extraction, and also not of the largely Christian faith that makes up this country.

Furthermore it has been mentioned much in the media before, most immigrants are not given equal treatment when it comes to their job qualifications, and many do not earn the same wage for a job by a person who is not an immigrant.


jean
said

Doug: We just returned from Costa Rica and English was an option on the ATM machine. Last time I checked only Spanish was the official language there.


john in ontario
said

We really have to give the family class sponsorships a critical review. The majority of applications are from new immigrants sponsoring parents from overseas. Parents generally elderly are then instantly qualified for health care, and old age security benefit at the point they will be the greatest users of health care, whilst having have contributed nothing in Canadian taxes to contribute to that benefit.


Sonny in Ontario
said

Anti-Chinese sentiment is the new Anti-Americanism given that it is an expanding power.

In Toronto, the school board is cutting back on ESL(english as second language) so in terms of linguistics the service is not there. The education system is very Eurocentric even though CANADA is a nation of immigrants.

Worldwide, Chinese and Spanish is used more than English OR French...


Tim from Calgary
said

There is no such thing as a Canadian identity any more. The Canadian identity is a mish-mash of different groups with no clearly visible identity.

That is the negative result of years of the social re-engineering theory of multiculturalism being forced upon us.


Mark
said

By the way, can someone define this Canadian culture that you defend so much?


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