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Date: Wed. Apr. 9 2008 10:46 PM ET

The Conservative government's new immigration legislation has survived a key vote, despite an attempt by the New Democrats to block the controversial reforms.

MPs in the House of Commons on Wednesday voted 201-68 against the NDP motion that strove to block the Conservative budget implementation bill, which contains the new legislation.

New Democrat and Bloc Quebecois MPs supported the confidence motion, while Conservatives and Liberals opposed it. An election would have been triggered if the motion had passed.

Though the Liberals have slammed the reforms, calling them regressive and designed to attack immigrants, they were not expected to vote against them. But they have not ruled out doing so in future, as the budget bill is expected to face several more confidence votes, each of which could bring down the government.

The Immigration and Refugee Protection Act would give the government discretion to pick and choose which applicants to fast track or block.

Immigration Minister Diane Finley said the Conservatives have worked hard to come up with a solution to the "mess" she said was created by the Liberals, and there is little room for negotiation.

"I can stand hand on heart and say this is good for immigrants, good for business, good for newcomers to the country and it's certainly good for the country," Finley told CTV's Mike Duffy Live on Wednesday.

She said the Conservatives are willing to go to the polls over the bill, and will not consider amendments expected to be proposed by the NDP.

Under the current immigration system there is a waiting list of close to one million applicants -- with no way of fast-tracking those with skills that Canada needs, Finley said.

"If that person is number 600,000 in line we've got a lot of applications to get through before that," Finley said, noting that those highly-skilled applicants often give up on Canada because the backlog has been so long in recent years.

The proposed changes would allow the minister to speed up the process for applicants whose skills are in demand. However, opponents warn that shift could open the door to legislated discrimination.

During question period in the House of Commons on Wednesday, Liberal Leader Stephane Dion asked Prime Minister Stephen Harper to admit the reforms would do nothing to reduce the massive backlog of applicants and would discourage potential immigrants from applying.

Harper shot back, attacking the Liberals' record on immigration.

"The Liberal party, Mr. Speaker, wants to go back to what they consider the good old days. The good old days where backlogs just kept getting longer, where you needed special access to government members, where frankly Mr. Speaker, they gave priority to strippers in terms of immigration policies and where after waiting for six years they charged immigrants $1,000 to come to Canada."

Harper was referring to the scandal that erupted in 2004 when it was revealed then Liberal immigration minister Judy Sgro had fast-tracked the immigration process for a campaign volunteer -- who also happened to be an exotic dancer from Romania

Ahead of the vote, Liberal immigration critic Maurizio Bevilacqua said the party has no interest in rejecting the bill before it even gets to committee, and Canadians should have a chance to weigh in on the proposals.

Bevilacqua didn't rule out the possibility of voting against the reforms at a later date, however.

Meanwhile, more than a dozen immigrant groups planned to protest the proposed changes on Wednesday in Toronto.

Sima Sahar Zerehi of the group Status Now, told Mike Duffy Live that the reforms could provide a framework for discrimination against visible minorities.

NDP immigration critic Olivia Chow acknowledged the system needs to be overhauled. But she argues that the proposed changes are undemocratic and would give the unfettered power to Finley to choose who gets fast-tracked, without any parliamentary involvement.

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david
said

The same Liberal party that charged $1000 per head to immigrate, now rants and raves against the governments new policy. They are totally against it, but they will vote for it!
Do they think Canadians are stupid? What kind of opposition is this?
Can we imagine what they would act like if they formed a government?


Francesco
said

Once again Dion shows that he doesn't have what it takes. He's GOT TO GO !


mac
said

Any immigrants living in Canada not happy about being allowed to come to Canada when the Liberals were the government party?

Didn't think so.






IT Manager
said

Control over immigration... one step closer to a fundamentalist regime. Thanks for proving me right, Steve.


David Trydal
said

I just cannot understand why the Liberals waste their energy to critize legislation and then don't vote against it. Do they really think that Canadians don't understand their pathetic tactics which shows they are far more interested in trying to get re-elected than to do what they believe is right. Every time they do this, they lose support because it shows a party with no "backbone" and definitely no leadership.


Jeff S.
said

Score down another victory for the Conservatives with the help of the tail-chasing Liberals. They criticize the bill and call the Government racist, but turn around and vote for it anyways?

Their hypocrisy knows no limits.


Ponyboy
said

I am in no way a fan of a lot our current government's policies, but these reforms actually make a lot of sense.


ance
said

I wish they would bring these guys down!

They didn't properly discipline their Sask MP for his hateful, drunken, anti-gay diatribe.

They are implementing legislation where immigrants could be allowed or disallowed at the sole discretion of the immigration minister regardless of their legitimate refugee status.

The gave gun owners
back tens of millions of dollars in legally collected fees after pleading poverty and scraping programs for female victims of violence.

Give your head a shake Grits...even your solid support base of those who truly abhor the bitter, exclusionary, narrow-minded Conservative way might eventually dump you due to your lack of action.


Mikey
said

This is a sad day for Canada. This shows how the Conservatives and the Liberals are the same - legislated discrimination through Immigration polices! Shame on both of you! Canada needs a new party that will represent honesty and decency!


Julius
said

This tactic of voting for it and then disagrees with it is not helping Dion, let alone the Liberal party. It's only helping the Conservatives gain the election momentum in the next federal vote.


Ry
said

I'm not sure if its just a general naiveness on the part of Canadians or the media's lack of attention to outlining the legislative process, however, the "Government" rarely (and I mean RARELY) ever creates its own legislation. This was bureaucratically driven, this wasn't something that any elected group created.

And for reference, these all wielding "powers" that critics are speaking of that will be reposed in any future Minister, are only exercised on the advice of Crown servants. With millions of applicants either through refugee, citizenship or PR status, are Canadian's that indulged to believe that a minister of the Crown would be so granularly involved in cases before their department? These powers are delegated to bureaucrats and rarely ever personally executed by the Crown itself.

Re-take Grade 7 History/Civics. Understand your Government!


Robinhood
said

Actually I'll lean to the right on this issue. Immigration needs controls and should be based on economic forecasts. Increase it when the economy is going up and unemployment is going down and REDUCE it when the situation is vice versa. Also drivers as to which immigrants gets fast tracked should also be based on the job market needs. Its common sense really. Besides Canadians should be able to use immigration to help the country and not give the decision to politicians for their own "vote-buying" purposes. Sooooo,.. where I'm concerned is that the decision is undemocratically being given to the Immigration Minister??!... I can certainly see where that may go! Too bad the Conservatives once again took a good idea and fundamentally ruined it in their greedy hast to consolidate more power.



Andy In Cambridge
said

correct me if I'm wrong, which I don't think I am, but is it not the Government's job to decide who gets in and who doesn't anyway?

this lets them choose the ones that have skills to offer Canada, before they get sick of waiting and go to another country.

Immigrants contribute to our economy, but they can't contribute if we can't let them in


Brenda from the prairies
said

Now now everyone, Mr. Dion did say that they would take care of this "orrible" bill just as soon as they were in power. In other words..when pigs fly.


Mike
said

"speed up the process for applicants whose skills are in demand" ?! Everyday I see young kids begging for change at intersections. Why doesn't this government invest in more programs to train people (Canadian people) to fill those positions. The only reason there's a labour shortage is because so many people can't afford to pay for an education and get the skills needed.


WW
said

Politics at his best. I totally agree with you Jeff S. It's all about the flip flopper. The opposition, will likely have a suprise, when it will come to an election, every victory for the conservative will thrown at the opposition faces. Every party cannot stick on a subject of importance and stick to it. Impossible.


Dean
said

I think the Conservatives are doing the right thing. Why not only take the people we need? Why take some undesirables? On top of this, they should also stipulate that any crimes resulting in conviction will result in immediate deportation for the person affected.


Chris
said

I'm agreeing with this bill here flat out. Yes, we do need immigrants or our population would continue to plummet since we do not sustain it on our own. But, letting people in who aren't going to do anything for the country and suck more out of tax payers is wrong.
Go Harper take it to them Lib's who need to shut their lid!


Brad B
said

Makes sense to me. Look at what is happening in Quebec right now. They chose to exercise their right (right??? oops, different comment) to filter immigrants, so that the large percentage were francophones. Now, unfortunately, they have a problem with not enough skilled immigrants. Had they chosen to fasttrack skilled workers instead of French-speaking workers, they'd be better off. In the same vein, shouldn't we be more receptive to skilled workers, who can add to the economy and hopefully provide less of a strain upon our social system? Maybe it's my rose-coloured glasses, but I don't see them stopping people from immigrating, only moving some to the front of the line.


Pro Sanity
said

Whose country is this anyway? It doesn't belong to the people who are lined up on our borders. We have admittied millions of new Canadians over the past few decades and now the process is totally out of control. Immigration policy IS discriminatory and I would certainly hope so. If we don't have the right to decide who comes here the we might as well just scrap the whole thing, open the borders to everyone and sit back while our country falls rapidly into chaos. It is the job of the government to make these decisions while protecting those of us who have lived and worked here all our lives. I am not being racist and I am not anti-immigration but I do think there should be some rationale in our policy.


Tim
said

I am an international student graduate and i am already contributing to Canadian economy so why don't the Canadian Governments put applicants like me in front of the waiting line? Many of us still wait for up to 2 and half years after submit the skilled worker applications.


Sumimus
said

Immigration is not only about jobs! It is also about uniting families. I am Canadian, 10th generation, and I keep waiting for my wife to have a permanent status in this country. The immigration process is so slow and inefficient. With over 1200$ in cost, they should get this thing going faster... Get private entreprise into this business. Immigration officers just applied standard rules. Get this process going faster...


Vince M.
said

It is a fraud on an untrained or unskilled immigrant to let them in and have nothing decent for them to work at, to benefit their dignity and make them feel like contributors to their new country.

And it is a fraud on Canada for someone to come here with no ability or intention to contribute to the bottom line.


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