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Date: Mon. Mar. 3 2008 7:48 PM ET
Liberals have refused to withdraw allegations against Stephen Harper regarding an alleged financial offer to a dying MP, even after the prime minister sent a notice of libel on the matter.
Pressed by reporters outside of the House of Commons, Stephane Dion stood by his allegations Monday afternoon.
Statements on the Liberal Party website mentioned in the libel notice question Stephen Harper's alleged involvement in financial "offers'' made to Independent MP Chuck Cadman to sway his vote in a crucial 2005 Commons showdown.
Harper's lawyer, Richard Dearden, called the statements "false and devastatingly defamatory.''
"These malicious and reckless defamatory statements impugn the reputation of Prime Minister Stephen Harper,'' Dearden wrote in a letter of notice.
Harper spoke of the matter in question period Monday. "The truth is that this will prove to be, in court, the biggest mistake the leader of the Liberal party has ever made."
None of the allegations about Harper or the Conservative party have been proven in court.
The Liberal continued on the offensive in the House of Commons, and outside after question period. Comments inside the House of Commons are privileged and are not subject to legal repercussions.
"Well, Mr. Speaker, it's going to take a lot more than the threat of lawsuits to stop us from getting to the truth," Dion said.
The exchange came after a morning in which Dion was served with the notice at his Stornoway residence in Ottawa.
Deputy Leader Michael Ignatieff; House Leader Ralph Goodale; and The Liberal Party of Canada were also served with the notice.
Harper said in the House that the Liberals had published "false and unfounded allegations of criminal misconduct on my part."
Harper had asked for an immediate retraction.
The notice asks for two allegedly defamatory articles to be removed from the liberal.ca website and provides wording for an apology to be read out by Dion in the House of Commons. The notice requests the apology be given in English and French.
If the Liberals don't provide an apology, Harper wants them to preserve all records and email traffic.
Last week, a new book made the claim that former Conservative MP Chuck Cadman was essentially offered financial inducements by Conservative party officials to vote down the Liberal government's 2005 budget.
According to an interview with the book's author Tom Zytaruk, then-opposition leader Harper said in 2005, "The offer to Chuck was that it was only to replace financial considerations he might lose due to an election."
The Conservatives have said there is no truth to the million-dollar life insurance allegation and that they simply wanted Cadman to rejoin their caucus. The Liberals are pushing for the RCMP to investigate the matter.
In a statement, the Liberal party described Harper's actions as "libel chill" -- an attempt to shut down debate through threatened legal action.
Cadman's widow backs up Harper
Chuck Cadman's widow has said her late husband told her about the offer. Two other family members say Cadman told them the same thing, although the Conservatives argued in the House that Cadman made no such claims in media interviews.
However, Dona Cadman, who will be running for the Tories as a candidate in B.C.'s Surrey North riding, weighed into the debate today with a written statement.
She said she raised the issue of the alleged million-dollar life insurance offer to her then-terminally ill husband with Harper about two-and-a-half years ago.
"He looked me straight in the eyes and told me he had no knowledge of an insurance policy offer. I knew he was telling me the truth; I could see it in his eyes," Dona Cadman said in the statement released Monday.
"He said, yes he'd had some discussions with two individuals about asking Chuck to rejoin the party, but he'd told them they were wasting their time trying to convince Chuck.
"From that point forward, I didn't regard it as a 'party' initiative, but rather the overzealous indiscretion of a couple of individuals whose identity Chuck never revealed to me."
Chuck Cadman didn't rejoin the Tories, voted to support the budget and then died a few weeks later of cancer.
Dona said she liked, respected and trusted Harper.
Robert Fife, CTV's Ottawa bureau chief, told Newsnet that Harper never volunteered information about that exchange when the story broke last week.
Open questions
Fife said senior Conservatives have told him they feel the Liberals are getting too much traction from the Cadman controversy.
"They're going to get tough with him (Dion) and this is one instance where they're fighting back," he said.
Fife said he's covered national politics for about 30 years, and he can't recall another time where a sitting prime minister has threatened to sue an opposition leader for libel.
Some Liberals are wondering why the Tories aren't suing members of the Cadman family who made the allegations, he said.
Fife also raised the issue of whether the items on the website simply quoted things said in the House of Commons, "which would be fair game."
The Conservatives may have information that the Liberals said something in a scrum outside the House of Commons, which wouldn't be protected by parliamentary privilege. But that still isn't clear, he said.
Fife said the Tories should come clean on what went on with Cadman, but there are questions about Liberal behaviour too.
"Apparently they knew about this in 2007 ... and they kept it, probably waiting for an election campaign," Fife said.
"There's no clean hands in this sort of thing."
Fife said the tone in the House of Commons is getting increasingly vicious.
Environment Minister John Baird yelled at Dion, "Say it outside. You're a sleazy wimp."
Liberal MP Susan Kadis told Harper: "You're on tape like Nixon."
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.


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Jjaycee
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All share the blame. Can't we turf the lot and get a new set?
The Grumpy Voter
said
Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes. The dead rising from the grave. Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria!
Ain't Canada great?
C.A.
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Darren
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The Liberals are so desparate that they need to bring up whatever smeers they can to deflect from the fact that they are being competely schooled by the Conservatives.
The Liberals have no leadership whatsoever, unlike the Tories (and indeed the country.
Murray
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Harpers Best move
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Brad
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Derek
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Dennis
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Roger C.
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Cadman denies being offered a bribe publicly 3 times.
Then he has a deathbed discussion with his wife and then his daughter saying he was offered a bribe.
They say nothing for 2 years.
Dona Cadman becomes a Conservative candidate.
Then the book revelation comes out compliments of Dona's interview.
But why would she even consider running for a Party that her late husband's deathbed confession casts into disrepute?
None of this is adding up.
GP
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JLS
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Riley W
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If Harper was truly aware of any bribery, would he risk this coming back to bite him, by sueing Dion, Ignatieff, Goodale, and the Liberal Party of Canada for libel?
Good for him to take legal action though. The Liberals waste time and resources trying to find things that are never their.
Don J
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Eric
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Finally. This is Canada, you can't go around throwing accusations around to ruin people's reputations without solid evidence. If you don't have the evidence, you're vulnerable to libel. If Dion didn't know that before, he does now.
Ian
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If he ends up embarrassing the Liberals on this one, Mr Harper will officially be noted as one of the must cunning PM's in Canadian history.
And to think some said he wasn't very smart.
B. Lang
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Mr. Kingston
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IAN
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Bruce
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Norm
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Bern
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redbike
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Jim Howard
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What will it take for all of our government representatives to recognize most Canadians simply don't want their childishness and unbalanced views of just about every comment and/or initiative?
Too much of the operations and tactics of our elected officials is very poor value for money
Reuben
said
Maybe because it was scandal after scandal when Martin took over, so now the Liberals are trying desperately to prove that the Conservatives are also corrupt.
Shamaro
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Calgarian
said
You lost my vote.
Bee
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Politicians should first have to pass a behavioral test (conducted by Mike Duffy) before being permitted to enter Parliament ;P
Wayne
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Armand
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rmd
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Linda
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MBest
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Whop Deedo
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However, since this thread is about the Cadman story, I agree with the majority of comments. This all makes such little sense it borders on irresponsible journalism. No. I take that back, the media has only presented it for us and its the sum of the parts that don't make up a whole, well, anything! There also seems to be these Watergate-like conspiracy theorists that think the tape is some kind of smoking gun. I've heard it several times on the news and it kinda comfirms....oh..NOTHING.
kathy
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Michael
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IB:
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Allan
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Sue people to tie them up in legal procedures so they can't speak on an issue. Then later on the suit gets dropped.
Harold
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Jeff
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Today's politics are nothing more than people making ingratiating promises that eventually lead to be broken, then we have what we have here, and this dates all the way back to Adscam.
Political parties NEED to stop focusing on trying to sling mud at political parties and actually FOCUS on the issues. Issues that Canadian people care about. Both the Federal Conservatives and the Federal Liberal Party are responsible for this. We know it's possible that they can work together in a minority setting as evidenced by the Afghanistan compromise.
All this political posturing is accomplishing is the Liberals trying to knock the Conservatives down a point or two in the polls. I'm not saying Harper's innocent either as Adscam was his plan to topple the government to begin with.
The government needs to learn to WORK TOGETHER in order to get things done. Pearson did it when he had a minority government for 5 years and we saw what he could do (Maple Leaf Flag and Universal Health Care anyone?), who's to say we can do it again?
Mike S.
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They would not dirty the memory of a husband and father with falsehoods.
The Big Cheese is a Big Sleeze
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Ha-Ha
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rose
said
So I say.
GO FOR IT HARPER!
Christian Conservative
said
The Liberals tried to twist that into Mr. Harper "admitting" to knowing something about an unbelievable $1 million dollar insurance policy... THAT's where they went too far, because the tape proves no such thing.
Sally
said
"But is it not strange to anyone to believe knowing you have terminal cancer and still be able to purchase $1,000,000.00 life insurance. Where do I find that insurance company?"
Easy, a premium of $1,100,000.00 would do it!
Robert
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wc
said
Let's get some pressure on the partisan clowns in Ottawa.
Eric
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Wayne
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RH
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Vince M.
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This outcome would make his wife and daughter truthful and the Conservatives truthful.
It also makes it the most likely turn of events.
C Brown
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Evan
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Bob McDougall
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Al Wood
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This whole thing smells very bad. An admission made supposedly on tape over two years ago. The tapes integrity is in question. The bribe allegation surfacing just a mere month before the book is released. The author and the recipients of the royalties certainly benefiting from the hype due to increased book sales. I know I can't wait.
Dion to pay the price for arrogance
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Mike
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Trevor
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As for the guy who compares this to the Cons attack ads there is a big difference. The Cons are using Dion's own words against him by showing footage of him speaking. You find me some footage of Harper saying he offered Cadman a million dollars and then I'll agree with your position.
There is nothing illegal about trying to persuade an MP to join a political party, if there was then Martin would be doing 10 years for buying Belinda.
Terry
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jimbo
said
One should read these comments with a red pencil in hand. Some of you..."have been to the great feast of languages and have stolen the scraps."
"Much ado about nothing."
Darren...smear...
not smeer.
Bob H
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Bob McDougall
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The Acadian Nova Scotian
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R W
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the libel threat is a strategic distraction (one of several the cons are desperately trying to spin right now); if this case ever actually goes to court, it will take years & harper will lose.
between this & all their previous "mistakes" (election funding violations, etc.),
it's funny how the party of "law & order" seems to have so much trouble following the rules...
Dr. Johnson
said
Liberals define "debate" as the ability to allege criminal conduct with no evidence whatsoever.
Sorry but that's not "debate" that's libel, and that's why we have a well developed body of law in this area.
FreakAlert
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Gary
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Jack M.
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Vincent C.
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Hmmmmm.... At times makes one wonders why even bothers to exercise one's rights to go to the polling station. Go figures!.
Kris
said
This inter-party conflict just went nuclear.
And one more thing: if the Conservatives launched the libel suit without being 100 percent certain of Harper's hands being clean, then they're the stupidest politicians in history.
The Liberals probably jumped into this assuming that it would be a sort of low-intensity scandal they could use as necessary. Oops.
John B
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Good for Mr. Harper in this matter. These point the finger first and ask questions later tactics have to stop. Maybe the Liberals will find some facts about what they are talking about first from now on.
Maybe Harper is guilty in this matter but I thought our constitution stated innocent until proven guilty. Well there is no proof in this matter, it's just one persons word against anothers.
And for those who think that our government is messed up right now, it's not all of them it's the Liberals, they are still whinning and crying, thinking they have some God given right to be in power, well I'm sorry Mr. Dion, the people voted you out, deal with it.
gerry
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Timwest
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If Liberals are correct and have proof, then the court of law is where this matter should be proven.
Jack
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I've listened to the tape of Harper, and I've read the suit. It's clear from the tape that Harper knew his representatives were making "financial" offers to Cadman. That's called "bribery".
I think Steve has blundered here.
MB
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psiclone
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Dennis
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And some want Dion and this dysfunctional party to lead the country???
Could be Checkmate.
James from Vancouver
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criminal cons
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Robert
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John
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John
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Peter
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Mark
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Looks like about 5%. The rest are just making up a tale that is similar to the truth to support your biased opinions?
"The tapes says this ..." "Mrs. Cadman said that ..." "He must be guilty because he is a conservative/liberal"
If you think the problem with politics is in Ottawa you are wrong. The problem is right here where we cannot discuss something with civility, honesty, and without prejudice.
This is why politicians act they way they do because they know they can count on the average Canadian to react to a sound bite and not put any effort into finding out what is really going on.