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Date: Mon. Mar. 3 2008 7:48 PM ET

Liberals have refused to withdraw allegations against Stephen Harper regarding an alleged financial offer to a dying MP, even after the prime minister sent a notice of libel on the matter.

Pressed by reporters outside of the House of Commons, Stephane Dion stood by his allegations Monday afternoon.

Statements on the Liberal Party website mentioned in the libel notice question Stephen Harper's alleged involvement in financial "offers'' made to Independent MP Chuck Cadman to sway his vote in a crucial 2005 Commons showdown.

Harper's lawyer, Richard Dearden, called the statements "false and devastatingly defamatory.''

"These malicious and reckless defamatory statements impugn the reputation of Prime Minister Stephen Harper,'' Dearden wrote in a letter of notice.

Harper spoke of the matter in question period Monday. "The truth is that this will prove to be, in court, the biggest mistake the leader of the Liberal party has ever made."

None of the allegations about Harper or the Conservative party have been proven in court.

The Liberal continued on the offensive in the House of Commons, and outside after question period. Comments inside the House of Commons are privileged and are not subject to legal repercussions.

"Well, Mr. Speaker, it's going to take a lot more than the threat of lawsuits to stop us from getting to the truth," Dion said.

The exchange came after a morning in which Dion was served with the notice at his Stornoway residence in Ottawa.

Deputy Leader Michael Ignatieff; House Leader Ralph Goodale; and The Liberal Party of Canada were also served with the notice.

Harper said in the House that the Liberals had published "false and unfounded allegations of criminal misconduct on my part."

Harper had asked for an immediate retraction.

The notice asks for two allegedly defamatory articles to be removed from the liberal.ca website and provides wording for an apology to be read out by Dion in the House of Commons. The notice requests the apology be given in English and French.

If the Liberals don't provide an apology, Harper wants them to preserve all records and email traffic.

Last week, a new book made the claim that former Conservative MP Chuck Cadman was essentially offered financial inducements by Conservative party officials to vote down the Liberal government's 2005 budget.

According to an interview with the book's author Tom Zytaruk, then-opposition leader Harper said in 2005, "The offer to Chuck was that it was only to replace financial considerations he might lose due to an election."

The Conservatives have said there is no truth to the million-dollar life insurance allegation and that they simply wanted Cadman to rejoin their caucus. The Liberals are pushing for the RCMP to investigate the matter.

In a statement, the Liberal party described Harper's actions as "libel chill" -- an attempt to shut down debate through threatened legal action.

Cadman's widow backs up Harper

Chuck Cadman's widow has said her late husband told her about the offer. Two other family members say Cadman told them the same thing, although the Conservatives argued in the House that Cadman made no such claims in media interviews.

However, Dona Cadman, who will be running for the Tories as a candidate in B.C.'s Surrey North riding, weighed into the debate today with a written statement.

She said she raised the issue of the alleged million-dollar life insurance offer to her then-terminally ill husband with Harper about two-and-a-half years ago.

"He looked me straight in the eyes and told me he had no knowledge of an insurance policy offer. I knew he was telling me the truth; I could see it in his eyes," Dona Cadman said in the statement released Monday.

"He said, yes he'd had some discussions with two individuals about asking Chuck to rejoin the party, but he'd told them they were wasting their time trying to convince Chuck.

"From that point forward, I didn't regard it as a 'party' initiative, but rather the overzealous indiscretion of a couple of individuals whose identity Chuck never revealed to me."

Chuck Cadman didn't rejoin the Tories, voted to support the budget and then died a few weeks later of cancer.

Dona said she liked, respected and trusted Harper.

Robert Fife, CTV's Ottawa bureau chief, told Newsnet that Harper never volunteered information about that exchange when the story broke last week.

Open questions

Fife said senior Conservatives have told him they feel the Liberals are getting too much traction from the Cadman controversy.

"They're going to get tough with him (Dion) and this is one instance where they're fighting back," he said.

Fife said he's covered national politics for about 30 years, and he can't recall another time where a sitting prime minister has threatened to sue an opposition leader for libel.

Some Liberals are wondering why the Tories aren't suing members of the Cadman family who made the allegations, he said.

Fife also raised the issue of whether the items on the website simply quoted things said in the House of Commons, "which would be fair game."

The Conservatives may have information that the Liberals said something in a scrum outside the House of Commons, which wouldn't be protected by parliamentary privilege. But that still isn't clear, he said.

Fife said the Tories should come clean on what went on with Cadman, but there are questions about Liberal behaviour too.

"Apparently they knew about this in 2007 ... and they kept it, probably waiting for an election campaign," Fife said.

"There's no clean hands in this sort of thing."

Fife said the tone in the House of Commons is getting increasingly vicious.

Environment Minister John Baird yelled at Dion, "Say it outside. You're a sleazy wimp."

Liberal MP Susan Kadis told Harper: "You're on tape like Nixon."

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Jjaycee
said

There is more scandal mongering in the present Parliament than there is Governing!

All share the blame. Can't we turf the lot and get a new set?


The Grumpy Voter
said

Prime Ministers suing Leaders of the Opposition. Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling.
Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes. The dead rising from the grave. Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria!

Ain't Canada great?


C.A.
said

Perhaps we will get to the bottom of the Harper audio tape where he admits to knowing about the deal a little faster then. A little light on this subject would be quite welcome to Canadians.


Darren
said

Good for Harper and Co. This slandering and smeering has to stop so that the Tories can continue to run the country in the efficient manner that they have been doing.
The Liberals are so desparate that they need to bring up whatever smeers they can to deflect from the fact that they are being competely schooled by the Conservatives.
The Liberals have no leadership whatsoever, unlike the Tories (and indeed the country.


Murray
said

Didn't see that one coming eh?


Harpers Best move
said

Harper is making another strong strategic move. This should clear up any false not to mention largley improbable accusations that have been levelled at him. I hope Dion and the rest of the Liberal top bench is brought back down to earth by this.


Brad
said

Good on you Mr. PM for not standing back and hoping this goes away. Now that you have put the ball back into the sad sack liberals court, please get on with running our country. This soap opera wastes everyones time.


Derek
said

This is fear mongering. Harper should do the honourable thing and call an inquiry or allow the RCMP to investigate. Suing the Liberals isn't going to solve anything.


Dennis
said

I don't blame Harper. Enough with the Liberals and their constant scandal mongering that has been going nowhere. If the Liberals really believed this government was so bad, they would have voted on their part to defeat them by now. They haven't, and that speaks volumes.


Roger C.
said

This entire story is just plain odd.

Cadman denies being offered a bribe publicly 3 times.

Then he has a deathbed discussion with his wife and then his daughter saying he was offered a bribe.

They say nothing for 2 years.

Dona Cadman becomes a Conservative candidate.

Then the book revelation comes out compliments of Dona's interview.

But why would she even consider running for a Party that her late husband's deathbed confession casts into disrepute?

None of this is adding up.


GP
said

How completely absurd is this…the Americanization of Canadian politics continues. Maybe its time to decrease the pay to MPs and get some more community minded people volunteering to try and run this circus…can’t get worse.


JLS
said

I never wanted to believe it but after hearing about this I finally believe all the stories about Harper being an overdominating control freak. I guess he got bored muzzling his own MPs and is now trying to muzzle the opposition parties as well. This is unacceptable. Harper is just too much of an overdominating control freak. He tries to stifle and silence whatever he doesn't like. He just lost my vote. I finally see Harper for what he is.

Riley W
said

Hmm, ask yourself this.

If Harper was truly aware of any bribery, would he risk this coming back to bite him, by sueing Dion, Ignatieff, Goodale, and the Liberal Party of Canada for libel?

Good for him to take legal action though. The Liberals waste time and resources trying to find things that are never their.


Don J
said

Good that Harper is demonstrating that he is indeed the pot calling the kettle black. He and his team can't open their mouths without saying something outrageously untrue about the Liberals or anyone else they perceive as enemies. Then when caught on tape, Harper turns to a SLAPP-suit, which is all this is. Publish his letter, Liberals, do what everyone else has to do when a big power machine with a chip on its should tries to sue to cover up the truth.

Eric
said

Awesome!

Finally. This is Canada, you can't go around throwing accusations around to ruin people's reputations without solid evidence. If you don't have the evidence, you're vulnerable to libel. If Dion didn't know that before, he does now.





Ian
said

Pretty aggressive and 'Harperesque' move.
If he ends up embarrassing the Liberals on this one, Mr Harper will officially be noted as one of the must cunning PM's in Canadian history.
And to think some said he wasn't very smart.


B. Lang
said

OK, and when can we expect the same notice to be given to the author of the book and Cadman's wife and daughter? After all they are the ones that made the original accusation.


Mr. Kingston
said

The liberal party are grasping at straws because of their fledgling poll numbers and outright incompetence. Let them sully their image even further over a work of fiction and further the inevitability of a Conservative majority.


IAN
said

Will we, the taxpayers, get to fund the legal costs incurred? What about the settlements? It cost us millions the last time the Liberals falsely accused Mulroney.


Bruce
said

The liberals have been slinging anything and everything they can hoping something will stick. It's about time there were consequences. Well done Mr. Prime Minister!


Norm
said

Who knew what, and when is up for debate. But is it not strange to anyone to believe knowing you have terminal cancer and still be able to purchase $1,000,000.00 life insurance. Where do I find that insurance company?


Bern
said

Dennis, the Liberals did not break this scandal. The author or the Cadman book did. That a nice tactic of deflection that you make a comment like the Liberals are "scandal-mongering", and also another nice view you Tories have that the Liberals job is to take down the Tory gov't. Obviously the Tories don't think much of their own governing tactics if the only job of the opposition is to take them down.

redbike
said

Something about this story doesn't pass the smell test: what life insurance company is going to issue a million dollar policy when the insured is on his deathbed with cancer?


Jim Howard
said

Sadly Canadian politicians of all stripes see their role to be more about "Power" than about the responsible development of policy and broadly constructive programs. I happen to personally believe the Conservative agenda has essentially been policy driven and responsible but they, like all of the parties are much too prone to personal attack, mudslinging and rhetoric.
What will it take for all of our government representatives to recognize most Canadians simply don't want their childishness and unbalanced views of just about every comment and/or initiative?
Too much of the operations and tactics of our elected officials is very poor value for money


Reuben
said

Good for Harper. We have absolutely no evidence that the Conservatives offered Cadman the insurance policy, and yet the Liberals are acting like Harper and the Conservatives have already been proven guilty.

Maybe because it was scandal after scandal when Martin took over, so now the Liberals are trying desperately to prove that the Conservatives are also corrupt.


Shamaro
said

You know, give this to the RCMP to investigate. If there is nothing to really hide, then this should not be a problem. In the meantime, I ask all our elected officials in Ottawa to grow up and stop acting like school yard children and get down to business and run this country, we have a major economic slowdown coming and something as frivilous as this doesn't need to be on the top of our national agenda.


Calgarian
said

Sorry, Stevie, my boy. I thought you may be the one, but as someone said Harper is trying to muzzle everyone in the house of commons… what's next lose our freedom of opinion?


You lost my vote.


Bee
said

It's no wonder younger people find politics so distasteful. The government treats us like children while they act like bratty kids in a schoolyard at recess. Perhaps if there were a measurable amount of maturity in the House, it would attract some younger, brighter blood into the fold.

Politicians should first have to pass a behavioral test (conducted by Mike Duffy) before being permitted to enter Parliament ;P



Wayne
said

Good for the PM : I for one am getting very tired of stories coming from the oppostion of scandal here scandal there and never any proof. I think that before a person makes an allegation agianst a person in public then they ought to show the evidence. This whole strange and sad story is essentially another one of these he said she said stories and they are getting old and tired.


Armand
said

You know, Devon K, the daughter and the wife are TWO people saying this happened, and there are more. The testimony of Chuck Cadman is recorded by the author of the book. Their word credible they back each other up. As opposed to Harper who admitted on tape he knew about it and then turns around and denies and sues. Outside of a video tape of the event, what more evidence do you suggest they gather? Your argument is blowing away in the wind, my friend.


rmd
said

Canadians really need to do away with political parties, why can't every MP be an independent? Oh ya, many parties and individuals would lose a great deal of the old mighty $!


Linda
said

Oust both parties and give the NDP a chance to make them squirm. I agree that Harper is a control freak and it is his way or the highway. Dion? What can I say? Nothing. As said before, "CHUCK" them all.


MBest
said

Ther must be more important things for our elected officials to worry about, such as our soft approach to criminals. Maybe they should get on with running this country and work to-gether to improve this great place were we live.



Whop Deedo
said

What about the economy ? Are any of the opposition parties interested in debating any of the issues related to this topic ?
However, since this thread is about the Cadman story, I agree with the majority of comments. This all makes such little sense it borders on irresponsible journalism. No. I take that back, the media has only presented it for us and its the sum of the parts that don't make up a whole, well, anything! There also seems to be these Watergate-like conspiracy theorists that think the tape is some kind of smoking gun. I've heard it several times on the news and it kinda comfirms....oh..NOTHING.

kathy
said

Has anyone stopped and considered why Mr Cadman voted with the liberals on that vote? Would his family not been given full benefits if he died while in office? If an election had been called and Mr Cadman either lost or did not run, then his family would have only received his pension for the number of years he served. If anyone watched the voting prior to has death, you would have seen that he voted against all liberal motions except tht one. There is something fishy, but I don't think its the conservatives.


Michael
said

I told you this nonsense with Cadman being offered a $1 million insurance bribe was a publicity stunt. If it had been true, the story would have come out long ago.

IB:
said

Politicians are expected to run the country sensibly and cordially by the voting public. If politicians start suing each other, which sensible person will go into politics ?? This is sure way to end up in more _ _ _ _ (you know what!!)


Allan
said

This is a good, old fashioned example of "libel chill".

Sue people to tie them up in legal procedures so they can't speak on an issue. Then later on the suit gets dropped.




Harold
said

Mr. Harper knew that an offer was made to Mr. Cadman. Unfortunately, he did not answer well in the taped interview, leaving himself open to questions. But, a life insurance policy, I don't think so. In any event, the Liberals did not play it very smart by posting on their website. They could have gathered headlines and parliamentary immunity by making all those allegations in the house. Not too swift on that one unless they know something we don't.


Jeff
said

All right, I'm a political activist / amateur Canadian Historian, so this really burns a fire under me. Historically speaking, William Lyon Mackenzie King stayed in power for so long because he actually did what the people asked him to do.

Today's politics are nothing more than people making ingratiating promises that eventually lead to be broken, then we have what we have here, and this dates all the way back to Adscam.

Political parties NEED to stop focusing on trying to sling mud at political parties and actually FOCUS on the issues. Issues that Canadian people care about. Both the Federal Conservatives and the Federal Liberal Party are responsible for this. We know it's possible that they can work together in a minority setting as evidenced by the Afghanistan compromise.

All this political posturing is accomplishing is the Liberals trying to knock the Conservatives down a point or two in the polls. I'm not saying Harper's innocent either as Adscam was his plan to topple the government to begin with.

The government needs to learn to WORK TOGETHER in order to get things done. Pearson did it when he had a minority government for 5 years and we saw what he could do (Maple Leaf Flag and Universal Health Care anyone?), who's to say we can do it again?


Mike S.
said

I believe Chuck's wife and daughter.Would they be saying this if it wasn't true?
They would not dirty the memory of a husband and father with falsehoods.


The Big Cheese is a Big Sleeze
said

With his incredibly defensive and odd behaviour over this whole affair, Harper only proves once again how weak a Prime Minister he really is, while opening up a big can of smelly worms that tells politicians it's okay to sue your opposition any time you feel threatened by them and, potentially, the truth. Whatever happened to good old fashioned childish ranting and raving and cursing on the floor of the Commons?

Ha-Ha
said

Did you know that 'libel' as used legally in a court of law means 'inflamatory and damaging statements' which can be true and still be libel.

rose
said

The last time we had a PM try this stunt the result was the destruction of Tory party.I would love to see history repeat.
So I say.

GO FOR IT HARPER!


Christian Conservative
said

Bobb999, the only thing Mr. Harper "admitted" to on the tape was that Party officials were talking to Cadman with an offer of financial assistance during an election campaign... which is 100% perfectly above board and legal, were Mr. Cadman came back into the Tory fold.

The Liberals tried to twist that into Mr. Harper "admitting" to knowing something about an unbelievable $1 million dollar insurance policy... THAT's where they went too far, because the tape proves no such thing.


Sally
said

Norm writes
"But is it not strange to anyone to believe knowing you have terminal cancer and still be able to purchase $1,000,000.00 life insurance. Where do I find that insurance company?"

Easy, a premium of $1,100,000.00 would do it!


Robert
said

I was an insurance broker for over 30 years and I can tell you it would be impossible to get a life isurance policy for someone who is dying. As well, I never had a call from anyone saying "quick I need fire insurance my house is burning". It is just too stupid to contemplate.


wc
said

Time to start electing WAY more Independents.

Let's get some pressure on the partisan clowns in Ottawa.


Eric
said

Good. It will get us to the bottom of this whole matter real quick. If the Tories played foul, they'll be neck-deep in poop. If the Liberals are spouting out garbage, they'll get burned real bad.


Wayne
said

Harper is suing simply to shutdown debate. I don't know if the allegations are true or not. They sound outrageous and unbelievable but I wasn't here, not part of the deal. Nor does anyone else writing here know any better. Let the authorities sort it out. The only thing definitive here is that allegations were made and now the debate is being shutdown because of a lawsuit. You make your own conclusion from this.


RH
said

Let me get this straight. We want a full inquiry into AdScam... yet we don't need to investigate the possibility of bribery leading to a fixed vote in a the House of Commons that would ultimately change the balance of power in parliament?!?! This board is so right-wing it's not even funny...


Vince M.
said

A prefectly reasonable explanation is perhaps Chuck Cadman said what he did for his own reasons - maybe to get back at his estranged party. Maybe he was not offered life insurance at all.

This outcome would make his wife and daughter truthful and the Conservatives truthful.

It also makes it the most likely turn of events.




C Brown
said

After failing in their three recent attempts to have the Liberals bring down the government (Afghanistan, Crime Bill and Budget), this could be a slick strategy by the Conservatives to trick the Liberals into bringing down the government and force an election. After all, these allegations will never be proven, given that Chuck Cadman personally stated during the interviews before he died that no financial offers were made to him and the recent allegations of his wife, daughter and son-in-law will have no way of sticking or proving any wrongdoing on the part of the Conservatives. Besides, since no insurance company will ever issue a $1 million policy for a person known to be dying of cancer, the allegations will remain at best, allegations.


Evan
said

RIP Chuck Cadman. Someone has to say that.


Bob McDougall
said

Harper said that the two representatives of the party were going to offer financial considerations that Mr Cadman might lose as a result of the election. Like life insurance? As far as getting an insurer, any insurance company would do this on a cost plus admin basis as happens with many large company's benefit plans. If the comments are libel why not sue to stop distribution of the book? Because it is not libel it is Libel Chill by Harper who it should be clear from the Conservative Attack ads that regularly run is Right but not very Honorable.


Al Wood
said

It's a shame to see Parliament has degenerated so far that law suits are required. None of the allegations with respect to Mr. Cadman have been proven in a court of law. Therefore Mr. Dion and the Liberals have more than over stepped the boundary of propriety.

This whole thing smells very bad. An admission made supposedly on tape over two years ago. The tapes integrity is in question. The bribe allegation surfacing just a mere month before the book is released. The author and the recipients of the royalties certainly benefiting from the hype due to increased book sales. I know I can't wait.


Dion to pay the price for arrogance
said

In question period this afternoon the opposition has made it clear they have no intention of withdrawing their libelous statements. Fireworks to follow no doubt. The Liberals are certainly grasping at straws and unrepentent at that.


Mike
said

Hold on minute, I've seen CSI. Can't we just get the tape analyzed and find out if it's original or even doctored. C'mon, we can have this figured out 20 minutes. lol


Trevor
said

What some of you are failing to grasp is that the book author and the Cadman family are accusing 'two conservative members' who are unnamed. The Libs on the other hand are accusing Harper with little or no proof. Harper has the right to defend his reputation against smears.

As for the guy who compares this to the Cons attack ads there is a big difference. The Cons are using Dion's own words against him by showing footage of him speaking. You find me some footage of Harper saying he offered Cadman a million dollars and then I'll agree with your position.

There is nothing illegal about trying to persuade an MP to join a political party, if there was then Martin would be doing 10 years for buying Belinda.


Terry
said

I would just like to point out that the neither the author of the book, Tom Zytaruk, nor the Cadmans implicated Harper. That is a jump the Liberals have made. That is why Harper is suing the Liberals and not the author or the Cadmans.


jimbo
said

Good Grief!
One should read these comments with a red pencil in hand. Some of you..."have been to the great feast of languages and have stolen the scraps."
"Much ado about nothing."
Darren...smear...
not smeer.


Bob H
said

One has to wonder what the heck is really going on with this Cadman family. She is now changing her tune and is saying she supports Harper. Has she just now realized that by accusing Harper of attempting to bribe her late husband she has dealt a death blow to her political career.I think this latest move will destroy any credibility she had in the public's eye. One has to wonder just how much interference regarding this affair was created by the Liberals. The Liberals are so desparate they would accuse Harper of rigging the US election if they though it would help their cause. Gobble it up Liberal supporters, it's just a weak method of obtaining votes from a weak no direction Party. I guess she has come to realize this sort of mud slinging may help book sales but will totally destroy her political career.


Bob McDougall
said

The attack ads are way out of context, the one they just release make Dion look like he is saying he is going to spend "mega tons of Money" when the full quote shows him saving Candians will MAKE mega tons of money taking advantage of evironmental technologies. The Liberals also did not implicate Harper, Harper does himself on the tape the author of the book released.


The Acadian Nova Scotian
said

I think that the Prime Minister has to expect that as the leader of a governing party there will be accusations. If he were a real leader, he would just move on. I also believe that Canadians are tired of all this bickering. Start working together!!! ALL PARTIES!!! I used to only vote for a certain party, but no longer do so. I try to vote for the people we are electing. This whole smear campaign has gotten way to far. It certainly is not helping anyone. There should be one party who isn't there to try to topple the government or abstain from voting. There should be a party who is not all about threats. Canada can be a great country. Lets show the world we can make a difference together. Not to the detriment of anyone else.


R W
said

unless the cons can proove that the tape is a fake, the libs have harper dead to rights; he knew. nothing happens in that party that harper doesn't know about.

the libel threat is a strategic distraction (one of several the cons are desperately trying to spin right now); if this case ever actually goes to court, it will take years & harper will lose.

between this & all their previous "mistakes" (election funding violations, etc.),
it's funny how the party of "law & order" seems to have so much trouble following the rules...




Dr. Johnson
said

Chill on debate???

Liberals define "debate" as the ability to allege criminal conduct with no evidence whatsoever.

Sorry but that's not "debate" that's libel, and that's why we have a well developed body of law in this area.


FreakAlert
said

A simple polygraph test could clear this all up in an hour.


Gary
said

There needs to be a better political system in Canada..To much time, energy and money or resources is being spent by our politicians trying to maintain power or acquire it and less and less time is being spent actually governing the country. As a Canadian I can tell you I am getting sick of it all. I don't know how we can stop this childishness from our politicians..All of them! I am just fed up with it all..It's like a 3 ring circus....

Jack M.
said

The Conservatives and the Honourable Prime Minister have taken every opportunity to 'badmouth' the Liberals, for years now, even on the international stage, and now that the shoe is on the other foot, they cry foul. Give me a break!


Vincent C.
said

POLITICS!!!
Hmmmmm.... At times makes one wonders why even bothers to exercise one's rights to go to the polling station. Go figures!.


Kris
said

I have no idea what is going on here, but I do know one thing. Either the Liberals or the Conservatives are going to be in smoking ruins over this by next year.

This inter-party conflict just went nuclear.

And one more thing: if the Conservatives launched the libel suit without being 100 percent certain of Harper's hands being clean, then they're the stupidest politicians in history.
The Liberals probably jumped into this assuming that it would be a sort of low-intensity scandal they could use as necessary. Oops.


John B
said

You know it's funny I was a Liberal supporter at the beginning of this government, then I read "Harper's Team" by Dr. Tom Flanagan and I feel that I understand Mr. Harper now.

Good for Mr. Harper in this matter. These point the finger first and ask questions later tactics have to stop. Maybe the Liberals will find some facts about what they are talking about first from now on.

Maybe Harper is guilty in this matter but I thought our constitution stated innocent until proven guilty. Well there is no proof in this matter, it's just one persons word against anothers.

And for those who think that our government is messed up right now, it's not all of them it's the Liberals, they are still whinning and crying, thinking they have some God given right to be in power, well I'm sorry Mr. Dion, the people voted you out, deal with it.


gerry
said

turn the screws tighter and see who squirms the most. harper didn't look too comfortable today.


Timwest
said

According to Kinsella the firm representing Harper has NEVER lost a libel suit, and they have done MANY. His interpretation is that Harper know’s he is squeaky clean and is prepared to go all the way with this.

If Liberals are correct and have proof, then the court of law is where this matter should be proven.



Jack
said

The Conservatives are using lawsuits like a bunch of scientologists - not to win (since it's obvious they can't) but just to harass.

I've listened to the tape of Harper, and I've read the suit. It's clear from the tape that Harper knew his representatives were making "financial" offers to Cadman. That's called "bribery".

I think Steve has blundered here.




MB
said

Whoever the lead strategist is for the Liberal Party of Canada needs to focus on rebuilding the brand instead of the "vote for us because they are evil" approach. Even the NDP says there's nothing there, and the widow supports Harper.


psiclone
said

So it looks like Dona Cadman is lining up with Harper on this issue. Can anyone imagine what would happen if Harper sues Dion and then calls Dona as a character witness - then a few months later gets a cabinet post!


Dennis
said

I love it, Dion and the Liberals bit on it, hook, line, and sinker, actually I think they swallowed the whole fishing pole as well.

And some want Dion and this dysfunctional party to lead the country???

Could be Checkmate.


James from Vancouver
said

I just want to know what happened. Who knew what and when. Cadman's wife says Harper said he knew nothing, and she believes him. Largely it is still what Harper claims today vs. what he said on tape. Harper vs. Harper. Which one to believe?


criminal cons
said

Oh sure, suing for libel is a great move. Conrad Black launched a lawsuit against those who accused him of malfeasance and where is he today? JAIL!


Robert
said

Allright, On one hand we have Cadman's wife, daughter, son in law, and a respected journalist with an incriminating tape. On the other hand we have a Conservative denial. If this were a court case and I was representing the defendents I would recommend they plead out .


John
said

Petty, disgusting, desperate smear tactics of the Liberals. It is examples like these that brought our traditional Liberal-voting family to vote Conservative for the first time last election. We are pleased with Harper's solid leadership, and dismayed at Dion's appalling and tremendous lack of leadership. Vote Liberal? I'd say with things are going right now, never again. Never again.


John
said

After reading the many media accounts on this file I am no more the wiser. However, I sense that neither the media nor the Liberal Party have understood how this PM works. He does what he says he will do. He will take this to court as promised. Before this happens I would like to here from the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and Ralph Goodale. Do they also see this as a bluff? This is important because as Canadians we need to understand the commitment of each leader before the fallout of this very serious issue.


Peter
said

Let the facts come out. A lot of people will have to eat their words.


Mark
said

How many of you actually read the article? Or are basing their response from reliable sources and not hearsay and sound bites.

Looks like about 5%. The rest are just making up a tale that is similar to the truth to support your biased opinions?

"The tapes says this ..." "Mrs. Cadman said that ..." "He must be guilty because he is a conservative/liberal"

If you think the problem with politics is in Ottawa you are wrong. The problem is right here where we cannot discuss something with civility, honesty, and without prejudice.

This is why politicians act they way they do because they know they can count on the average Canadian to react to a sound bite and not put any effort into finding out what is really going on.


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