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Date: Thu. Feb. 21 2008 8:21 AM ET
Stephen Harper's Conservatives have gained their strongest lead over the Liberals since first taking power in 2006, and have edged ahead in support on almost every key issue, according to a new Strategic Counsel poll.
"It's a cold shower for Liberal election plans," the Strategic Counsel's Peter Donolo told CTV.ca Wednesday.
When respondents were asked which party they would vote for, nearly 40 per cent said they would back the Conservatives (percentage-point change from a Jan. 10-13 poll in brackets):
- Conservatives: 39 per cent (+3)
- Liberals: 27 per cent (-3)
- NDP: 12 per cent (same)
- Green Party: 12 per cent (+2)
- Bloc Quebecois: 10 per cent (-1)
CTV's Ottawa Bureau Chief Robert Fife said Liberal Leader Stephane Dion was pushing for an election Tuesday, and was considering voting down the federal budget in March.
"He happens to believe that if Canadians see him in an election campaign, they'll like him and elect him as prime minister," said Fife.
"Of course, Liberal MPs have a different view of that. They believe that the party will get slaughtered in an election campaign, so they're telling him to please hold off and wait until it looks advantageous for the Liberal party to actually win."
Fife said the 27 per cent support received by the Liberals reflects a core of Canadians who will vote for the party no matter what.
"I would think it would be almost impossible for them to go below that because that's where their core vote lies," he told CTV's Canada AM on Thursday.
Donolo noted that the Conservatives have only been in power for two years, and the public usually demands a change in government after a far longer stretch in office.
The survey, conducted between Feb. 14-17 for CTV and the Globe and Mail, also suggests that voters in Ontario are largely responsible for driving up Conservative support.
In Ontario, the Conservatives have overtaken the Liberals for the first time since July 2006, when the Liberals were at 39 per cent and the Tories at 41 percent. Here are the current standings in Ontario (percentage-point change from a Jan. 10-13 poll in brackets):
- Conservatives: 42 per cent (+5)
- Liberals: 34 per cent (-5)
- Green Party: 13 per cent (-1)
- NDP: 11 per cent (-1)
"This is a significant lead -- it's an eight-point lead," noted Donolo.
But he also said that, considering the national results, the Conservatives are only at the low end of the spectrum for what they would need to win a majority government.
"Thirty-nine per cent is only flirting with majority government territory," he said.
Donolo also pointed out that "this is more a picture of how the horses are standing at the starting gate, not at the finish line" -- meaning an election campaign could drastically affect the numbers.
Most Canadians seem content with the current minority government -- 60 per cent feel that Canada is on the right track, with 28 per cent answering believing it's on the wrong track.
The Conservatives have also taken a lead over the Liberals when it comes to dealing with key issues:
- When respondents were asked which party would best be able to manage the economy during an economic slowdown, 38 per cent said the Conservatives and 25 per cent said the Liberals;
- Thirty-six per cent of respondents thought the Conservatives were best able to manage the Afghanistan mission, compared with 21 per cent for the Liberals;
- On the question of which party has the best plan for Canada's military and defence, 37 per cent answered Conservative and 19 per cent Liberal;
- As for who would spend taxpayers' money most wisely, 32 per cent said Conservative and 14 per cent Liberal; and,
- When asked which party's values most reflected their own, 28 per cent said Conservative and 21 per cent Liberal.
Donolo said the low numbers for the Liberals may be a result of the public not fully understanding their positions on the issues.
"I think the Liberals being an opposition party in a minority government makes the situation even more difficult for them," said Donolo. "They kind of whip-saw between opposing the government and having to vote to keep it in office, and that ... makes it difficult for them to create a firm impression on the public."
The Liberals had a very slight lead on the Conservatives on the environment: 17 per cent said the Liberals would be better able to tackle climate change, compared with 16 per cent for the Conservatives.
Twenty-seven per cent also believed the Conservatives had a "hidden agenda," and only 20 per cent thought the same for the Liberals. However, 22 per cent felt the Conservatives had the highest standards of ethics and honesty, with the Liberals at 10 per cent.
Liberal Finance Critic John McCallum, speaking on CTV's Mike Duffy Live Wednesday before he had seen the complete poll results, said he believes the economy will become a major issue for the Conservatives.
"What I see in my riding and elsewhere in Ontario is growing concern about the economy, and the hemorrhaging of jobs, especially in manufacturing," he said. "And the finance minister has the nerve to lash out at the Ontario government while doing nothing himself to provide direct support for manufacturers. Support is what's needed, and that's what the government is not doing."
Technical notes
- The poll was conducted between Feb. 14-17 by The Strategic Counsel for CTV and the Globe and Mail.
- The national sample size is 1,000 people and the margin of error is plus or minus 3.1 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.
- In Ontario, 383 people were sampled with a margin of error of 5 percentage points.
- Results are based on tracking among a proportionate national sample of Canadians 18 years of age or older.
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.


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Shamaro
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André
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Mark M
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Greg from Kitchener
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Harper deserves a Majority, He has shown he can be a great leader, I have never been so proud to be Canadian as I am now.
Chris
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Mel from DC
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Ray Jacques
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I know that you are a Conservative supporter, but having the Conservatives even in a minority government has hurt Canada.
Being a leader of a country requires many skills, especially the need to have a vision, the need to understand Canadians, the ability to properly think-out all laws prior to trying to pass them into law, the need to respect the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedomsetc:- NOT JUST ARMY DRILL SARGEANT STYLE LEADERSHIP THAT HARPER HAS IN SPADES !
But, before you party too much over this poll, you should read Nik Nanos's poll which has the Liberals ahead slightly.
It would be better for Canada to have a majority Liberal government in power for every conceivable reason. They are experienced Centerists not driven by Right-Wing Reform dogma. Mr Dion has all of the proper Leadership qualities, intelligence, vision, environmentalist, thoughtfulnes and as demonstrated by his idea-filled caucaus, a strong believe in Democracy even in his own party.
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I certainly don't think he is perfect, like none of us are, but he does seem to have a genuiness that definately is not there in the Liberals.
Mr. Dion and his deputy actually seem very elitist and talk down to people rather than have a desire to serve, which a real leader should do. Actually I find Mr. Harper a very respectable leader.
It would be really good to see him lead a majority government.
Brian
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HB
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Greens tied with NDP???
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Durward
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I bet we are well with-in majority numbers.
Mutt from Windsor
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Stay the course until October 2009
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Canadians I believe would not take kindly to Dion and his gang wasting our valuable money on an election only because they want another Liberal 'power fix'.
I take with a grain of salt Peter Donolo's comments as he is a Liberal spinmeister and former Chretien hack.
Jennifer
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While I don't necessarily believe that Dion is the perfect candidate for Prime Minister, I do believe that the liberal party (despite their recent scandals) are the party that best respects Canada's traditional values.
Rob
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Mark
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I am guessing those numbers are a little high for the Conservatives. However, it still shows they have a solid lead during this critical period.
I am guessing Dion will come out with a "the people don't want an election now" line and abstain from voting for a while. Funny how he equates the Liberals doing well in the polls to 'the people' wanting an election.
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JD in Alberta
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The skills that a leader needs to be a leader in Canada, it's really to bad that there has never been a Liberal leader with those skills. They could never see beyond the Ontario border, except when the west was to be used as a cash cow. Like I said before, Dion was quoted as saying a much.
Sorry but a liberal government would only do damage. A Liberal goverment goes hand in hand with higher taxes and a spend it all mind set. Also, if we were to have another Liberal government we could say goodbye with any kind of relationship with the US.
ML in Ottawa
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DD
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Giving this party a majority would be devastating to this nation. Global warming will not be addressed, health care will be threatened, secrecy will become the norm. Considering some of the things they're getting away with as a minority, I fear what they might do as a majority.
We don't need our own version of Bush for a full term!!
Roch
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Canadians are warmly welcoming accountable, fiscally responsible and decisive government.
A Conservative majority will further increase Canada's reputation internationally.
Jason
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I wish that all of you "never vote anything but liberal" folks would get your head out of the sand and try figure out what we are, not what aren't.
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Stephen from NS
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dano
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Don
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Nik Nanos always has the Liberals ahead.
As for a Liberal majority. What did they do for 13 years? They brought in budgets on the backs of all the provinces. And damn near decimated our Armed Forces.
mike
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Although, the conservatives went back on their election promise on income trust, their plan was the right one for the country. I also fully agree with them on Afghanistan and have been quite happy with our strong economy and their priority on the national debt.
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The liberals are split, most cannot agree with Dion, and do not want him as leader...as well, Conservatives are more for individual freedoms and smaller government. I think you have it wrong, the liberals are the ones who will take away our rights beacuse we are always offending someone.
You think Harper is Right-Wing? lol He is a centerist slightly to the right. Those scare tacticts are not going to work this time.
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If there's an election, the Tories will win, but not a majority. They'll probably pick up a few seats, as will the Liberals, while the NDP & Bloc get squeezed. The overall picture won't have changed much & we'll have just spent a third of a billion dollars.
I think that the Tories ought to have a shot at governing for a full term, with a small majority; minority governments, whether Liberal or Tory, are largely the same, as both just govern week-to-week, providing short-term policies to keep their numbers up & avoid an election. If a government has a majority, then they can govern without fear of short-term political fallout & implement some solid, long-term policies & programs.
If the Tories get a majority & screw it up, then we can just chuck them out in four years & undo whatever mistakes they've made; no harm done. I don't think they will screw it up, though.
I have been somewhat disappointed with the Tories - they've been exhibiting more & more qualities that I've abhored in the Liberals - but the Liberals haven't shaken off the sense that government is theirs by right, and I don't trust Stephane Dion as far as I can throw him. If he does win next time, come the following election there isn't going to be a Liberal Party anymore. From what I've seen of him, he just isn't cut out for the job.
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Derek
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There are only 2 issues that matter when is comes to polling. When is the election, and who actually wins that poll? One poll, everybody can participate, end of debate.
In any event, these other popularity polls do nothing more than distract Canadians for thinking about real issues like the economy, health care, military actions and the environment to name a few.
Save a poll, plant a tree...
dave
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Martin - Edmonton
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Jan
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Federalist in QC
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BOB L
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Liberal manipulation no longer works...
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Mr. Harper is in NO WAY focused on being a puppet to the US. Stop listening to the sin. That is just political rhetoric put out by outdated Liberal backroom boys like Kinsella.
The new Conservative party of Canada led by Mr. Harper is the party that Canadians respect and trust. The Liberal politics of spin and games of the 1990's is over... nothing is working for them now. Their games have finally caught up with them and Canadians have lost respect for the sort of game playing Liberals are known for.
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Kevin MacDonald ( N---Dipper )
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Jill
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I don't mind Harper but don't want a majority after Mulroney & Chretien. I'll vote Liberal if I see a Con majority possibility.
Vince
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Rico F
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This is ridiculous. It seems the left-wing loves playing the American/Bush card when going after Harper.
Harper works well with the Americans, this is not to be confused with wanting to model Canada after the U.S.
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Ray
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Your comment about a drill sergent style of leadership is correct to a point. As a NCO in the Navy reserves we have always defined leadership as the ability to make people do what you want them to do, because they want to do it. Or in other words, you have to inspire them.
PM Harper is the first person in a long time that is showing the correct type of leadership for Canada
Harry W
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The other solution could be to move to the N.D.P
Allan Eizinas
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It was the Conservatives turn and all the “heavies” in the Liberal party new that. They stepped from the spotlight knowing that a few years would be needed until it was again the Liberals turn. They allowed the “rookie’s”, the Dion’s, Kennedy’s, Rae’s and Iggy’s to fight it out for a meaningless leader of the opposition.
After the next election which will probably result in minority for somebody, all leaderships will be “reviewed” and the “heavies” will be back. Look for the three M’s (McCallum, McKenna and Manley) to reappear, as well as other statesmen of the Liberals to take the leadership and create another Liberal majority.
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If you can switch to be a sepratist that easy just because you don't like the elected PM, then you were always a sepratist my friend !
I admit it, I'm a Conservative, that has endured years of Liberal rule........still a federalist though, love the country, exercise my right, nay privilage to vote and respect those that choose a different governing party.
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Listen guys, I don't think this poll is accurate. Everything else I've seen recently has shown Liberals and Conservatives to be neck and neck. I think we hit that 1 in 20 chance here.
On three issues, I think the Liberals have more of an advantage than this poll suggests; Economy, Afghanistan, and integrety. I will grant the defence issue to the CONServatives. To be fair, they have invested quite a bit in the military, and the military really needed it.
However, the economy is already in slowdown mode. All the Conservatives have really done is drop the GST to 5%, which benefits people who can afford to buy minivans or houses, and nobody below that. They have also let a lot of jobs slip away and done nothing about it. They ripped up the Atlantic Accord by putting a gun to Atlantic Canada's head. Right there, they've lost a lot of votes in Ontario and Atlantic Canada. And the taxpayers' money is NOT being spent wisely. He has made virtually no investment into health care, cut almost every single environmental program back to 0% (right from when he took office), failed to even TRY to get to Kyoto targets while embarassing us on an international stage, and propped up Oilberta.
Afghanistan, at least the Liberals paused and thought out what would be the best course of action. Good job to collaborate by the only two parties in the house with heads on their shoulders.
Integrety, the Conservatives have been caught in lies on the Nuclear plant, Afghan detainees, and several other things in the house I'm not going to list here. But I'm tired of being internationally embarassed too. Yes, I understand there were previous Liberal problems in this area, but time has passed since then.
I would LOVE to see an election called, and can't wait to get rid of President Harper.
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Dave
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Kevino
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Governments govern to stay in power. Harper will not introduce far right social policies to appease a handful of radical SOCONS in the party. He will maintain Canada's values because he wants to govern. Any changes he would make would be for the better.
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HB..wish you all the best. I lived elsewhere (Europe and US) and came back to Canada when this country began the Common Sense Revolution.
Canada is the greener grass on the other side of the hill!
Ray Jacques
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Thanks for your comments.
Obviously we will never agree 100%
Some points are indisputable though:
i) Nick Nanos is no less a pollster than any other polling company
ii) Liberals are not split - you cConservative supporters are not used to hearing a democratic party like the Liberals operate unlike the COnservatives who are all gagged (except for the daily "talking points" put out by the PMO
iii) Harper did lie about Income Trust, Atlantic Accord, Kyoto by not folowing the law. (it was the law of the land) and many other examples
iv)Harper is very Alliance / Reform and ideology driven (the Progressive Conservatives have been eliminated, sadly)
v) The Liberal with PAul MArtin had to put our finances in order. They stopped a $ 42 billion doolar defecit in less than 10 years and had surpluses in recent years.
vi) Defense spending did take a hit, but not such a hit that we were unable to fullfill our committments to NATO and the UN (we didn't have the money anyway)
vii) Hello Westerners - I trust that you know that we are all Canadians (not jus the West either). It is a fact that Ontario is almost 505 of Canada's population.
viii) Withe the Liberals, we would all have benefited by a national early learning program, taken care of the environment (Kyoto was about to kick-in when Harper won a minirity), the Aboriginals would have had the dignity of the Cologna Accord; Our taxes ewould have dropped to current levels more than (2) years ago; We would have had a fair softwood lumber deal;
Sorry guys, we need a Liberal government. Mr Dion is a better leader in every important measure that you can use, and Harper is an American style dogmatic leader like Bush - jus tthe wron guy, the wrong party, and the wrong policies (what few he has brought forth - I remember that he made fun of Mr. Martin for working-on 55 poliicies at the same time ! Mr. Martin was a "normal" busy government Leader. Harper has no vision and no good ideas at all.
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I'd like to hear from the liberals what they would do, rather than only hearing from them what the Conservatives are doing wrong. NDP are just irrelevant and ignorant of the world.
I'd like to see a conservative majority. Mostly so we can get over the political drama and just do something useful.
Right now, the Conservatives have the same effect as a majority. They can make everything a confidence motion and know that the liberals don't have the rocks to vote them down. So essentially they can pass whatever they like with Dion leading the Libs.
Dion's hilarious. Never seen a more meek and cowardly little man try to pretend that he's PM material. The Liberals are utterly unelectable with him at the helm.
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In spite of pollsters' claims that the poll is accurate, it only measures the responses of 1000 people at one moment in time. Statistically, it MAY indicate a trend. Remember the old saw: there are lies, damned lies and statistics. There are enough tools in the statistician's arsenal to turn those results into a rousing victory for the NDP!
In the meantime, will he, or won't he. . .
Canuck in seattle
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Bush has been a disaster to the US. Any suggestions that Harper is in any way similar indicates someone who can't read.
David Dunlop
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Dean M
dmalysh@hotmail.com
February 21, 2008 at 10:51:20 AM
Hmm...Tories are on their way up, Liberals on the way down. No surpise there.
Greens tied with the NDP? I wouldn't have guessed that one but I'm not surprised and I'm not complaining either. I'm glad to see Taliban Jack getting what he deserves. The Bloc are, as always, irrelevant.
Does this mean that Canadians really have a chance of getting responsible government and respectable leadership for a few more years? Wow! That would be a refreshing change!
Shamaro
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I am not necessarily a conservative, I only vote what my conscience feels is best for this country. When it comes to the charter of rights, my rights as far as I'm concerned and my freedom has been belittled by any Liberal government in the past upteen years. As for Dion, yes he maybe smart, but he's not a leader and as far as the Liberal party is concerned, many in his own party feel the same and the split down the Liberal party will not bode well for Canadians at all even if he won a minority government because of the infighting that will be happening within the party. How can anybody govern like that? What confidence does that give any Canadian citizen or taxpayer for that matter. Give Harper a majority, see what he can do and if he doesn't do well with a majority, well we can always fire him by voting against him in the next election and that is the beauty of democracy, we can change our leaders if we wish, just by excercising our rights and freedom. Hey! If you can vote and you don't, than don't complain about how the government is run, because you all had a choice to vote.
Ron in Ontario
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It amazes me that anyone thinks that the Dion Liberals are a centrist party. Mr. Rae is a socialist and fits right in with most of the other leftists in the Liberal party. His socialist DNA hasn't changed. Why join the Liberals? He knows there is no chance of forming an NDP government.
The more centrist Liberals like Ignatief stand out in sharp contrast to most of the party leaders.
Maybe people should realize there is little difference between the NDP and Dion Liberals.
For real centrist policies we need to stay the course with the Consevatives.
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James in New Brunswick
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I'm going to take this opportunity to air my biggest beef with Canadian politics; democracy.
Democracy is the expression of the will of the individual, exercised in the form of a single vote. While we vote (okay, only some of us vote) for an individual MP who is likely affiliated with a particular party, I believe we would be better served if we voted for the party whose stated platform most closely mirrors our own thoughts and beliefs. Of course, that would require that 1. parties decide on and state a platform;
2. media accurately reports the platforms of ALL parties; and
3. voters take the time to inform themselves on the issues and the platforms that respond to those issues.
So, when the election does come please, PLEASE get informed and go vote!
Rita
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Kevin F
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Harper has definitely broken many promises and said he would be a transparent government when he has snubbed the press gallery, tried to control who asks him questions, and tried to ban gay marriage. Is this really a PM we want in office?
Andy N
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I'm rooting for an election not just to get the Conservatives a majority, I can't wait until we get rid of our ineffective NDP MP. She won by less than one percent, and I don't think she'll be pulling that rabbit out of the hat again.
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