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Date: Wed. Feb. 6 2008 11:07 PM ET

A day after the biggest primary night in recent U.S. history, the Democratic and Republican frontrunners were out on the campaign trail putting the best spin on Super Tuesday's results.

Illinois Senator Barak Obama, who won more states than his democratic opponent, New York Senator Hillary Clinton, said he took a majority of nearly 1,700 delegates that were up for grabs.

The official tally has still not come in and Obama's claims were challenged by the Clinton campaign. Clinton communications chief Howard Wolfson said it's likely that neither side has a significant delegate lead.

Clinton won which some consider some of the biggest Super Tuesday prizes -- California, New York, and Massachusetts. But most political pundits say the race for the Democrats is still up in the air.

Tuesday's results have raised the stakes for the Democratic candidates and underlined the challenges that lay ahead for Republican front-runner John McCain, said Allan J. Lichtman, a presidential historian at American University.

"It's now trench warfare," he told Canada AM on Wednesday, speaking of the Clinton/Obama results. "It's a battle for delegates right down the line."

Obama is favoured in races coming up next Tuesday in several states, including Virginia and Maryland, and Clinton is hoping to secure victories in primaries in Ohio and Texas in March.

One of the most stunning results from Tuesday was that Obama lost in Massachusetts despite high profile support there, said Lichtman.

"We had this tremendous laying on of hands by Ted Kennedy and virtually the entire Kennedy clan on Barack Obama, basically saying look, Barack is the second coming of John F. Kennedy," Lichtman said.

"You even had John Kerry, the other senator from Massachusetts, endorsing Barack Obama. And guess what? Hillary Clinton sweeps in Massachusetts."

But Obama did achieve a key victory in Georgia, which was considered a key southern prize in Tuesday's primaries. Lichtman said a very heavy African-American turnout at the polls contributed to Obama's win in the state.

Still, overall victory could come down to a number of factors, Lichtman said, including late primaries in June, the Democratic convention in August, or voting by "super delegates."

"It's absolutely unpredictable and both Obama and Clinton have their very enthusiastic supporters and both have a strong claim on being powerful candidates," he said.

Republicans close to decision

On the Republican side, McCain solidified his lead for his party's presidential nomination on Tuesday.

But taking no chances, he cancelled a planned trip to Europe where he was to speak at a German security conference and meet with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown. His campaign said he wants to wrap up the nomination as quickly as possible.

McCain may be in the lead but still has a long way to go, Lichtman said.

He was the winner in Missouri, Connecticut, Illinois, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Delaware and his home state of Arizona.

"McCain likely has won the Republican nomination but he has not yet won the love of conservatives," Lichtman said.

That was indicated by Mike Huckabee's strength in the south, where he won about five states, and Mitt Romney's surge in the west.

"John McCain has a lot of work to do to knit this party together," Lichtman said, pointing out that Christian broadcaster Dr. James Dobson and conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh have both been "vitriolic" in their denunciation of McCain.

McCain, however, said he was adjusting to being in the position of front-runner.

"We've won a number of important victories in the closest thing we've had to a national primary," said McCain Tuesday night.

"We've won some of the biggest states in the country, in the south, the Midwest and the northeast. And although I've never minded the role of the underdog, and have relished come-from-behind victories, I think tonight we have to get used to the idea that we are the Republican Party front-runner."

McCain, an Arizona senator, capped the night by taking California and all its 170 delegates.

But even with the California win, he was just over halfway to getting the 1,191 delegates needed to guarantee the nomination.

Romney, his closest rival, managed to pull ahead in North Dakota, Utah, Montana, Minnesota and Massachusetts, where he served as governor.

"We're going to keep battling," Romney vowed at a rally in Boston. "We're going to go all the way to the convention and we're going to win this thing."

But one of the biggest winners of Super Tuesday may have been former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee. He had strong victories in five southern states.

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Obama loses again
said

While an aide to Sen. Barack Obama, who spoke at a town-hall meeting yesterday in Los Angeles, tried to explain away the altered policy changes, analysts excused him, noting the passage of time and less-liberal competition.Barack Obama, senatorial candidate 04, is very different from presidential candidate of 08.Videotapes of debates and speeches obtained by Washington Times shows Obama took positions during his Senate campaign on nearly a half-dozen issues ranging from the Cuba embargo to health care for illegal aliens that conflict with statements during his run for the White House. For example, in MSNBC's Oct. 30 presidential debate, Mr. Obama hesitantly raised his hand and joined with most of his Democratic rivals to declare he opposed decriminalizing marijuana But as a U.S. Senate candidate, Mr. Obama told ILL college students January he supported eliminating criminal penalties for marijuana use or possession. When confronted with the statements on the video, Obama's campaign offered two explanations said the candidate had "always" supported decriminalizing marijuana, suggesting that his 2004 statement was correct. Then after The Times posted copies of the video on its Web site, www.washingtontimes.com, yesterday, his campaign reversed course and declared he does not support eliminating criminal penalties for marijuana possession and use. What is
Senator Obama going to say to republicans when asked why he favors granting drivers' licenses to illegal immigrants as Obama has admitted twice in debates? About Obama's present position that undocumented workers will not be covered in his healthcare proposal, yet when he was running for the Senate he said that children of undocumented workers should get the same healthcare benefits that citizens get? when they begin to ask him about negotiating in unstructured summits with the leaders of Iran, North Korea and Cuba without preconditions? What will Senator Obama say when Senator McCain asks him why he said in 2004 that he did not know how he would have voted on the Iraq war authorization and that his view of the Iraq war was not different from President Bush's? What will Senator Obama say when Senator McCain compares Obama's votes to fully fund the Iraq War in the Senate to Obama's rhetorical opposition to that war? What is Senator Obama going to say when Senator McCain questions Obama's claim to be "the most qualified person in America to conduct the foreign policy of the United States"? What is Senator Obama going to say when Senator McCain says that Obama is not one of the most qualified members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to lead this country in today's dangerous world but instead one of the most absent? Senator Obama has not conducted a single policy hearing as chairman of the subcommittee on European Affairs of the Foreign Relations Committee?





FreakAlert
said

If people in the USA would just watch and listen to Ron Paul constantly lecture the Fed. Reserve Chairman, Ben Bernanke, on C-Span, they would realize this one politician truly cares for his country.


ET
said

McCain is about as smart as GWB. Clinton has better policies than Obama, and knows what she would do on day 1...she listed them in the California debate, right off the top of her head. She seems quite specific on what she intends to do. The problem with Hillary is that she's a little reserved. Obama seems intelligent, charismatic, and thoughtful. However, if you watch carefully, and pick him apart, he's actually even more scripted than Clinton...he just says it better. I think Clinton should get the nod because I think she would actually deliver the goods. Obama has set the bar sooo high, it's mostly hype, I don't think he could actually pull off ..... well, whatever it is he's trying to (he hasn't been specific enough to list something here). The one thing I think just about everyone would agree on is that it's turning out to be one hell of a race though!


Jiff
said

Looks like the Clinton posse will once again be in the house!


Ian - Milton
said

To "Where are the leaders" ... I couldn't agree with you more. The liberal-left in the US will continue to ruin their society (and by osmosis, our society) by passing pervasive moral laws as we have seen here in Canada - vis-a-vis same sex marriage - putting their heads in the sand about abortion, sanctity of life etc

We need to ask ourselves not only 'where are the moral leaders for the US' - but where are similar leaders for Canada?


The Highwayman
said

Elections are exercises in futility, as policy is determined in board rooms of international finance and industry, as are who the puppets shall be that will serve the interests of their corporate masters. All of this election furvor is just something to give the masses the illusion that it is they that control their destinies. This fact has been stated time and again by prominent politicians throughout history, but much as this comment will be ignored, those same facts have been ignored by the mesmerized public who continue playing the little game devised for them.

"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happened, you can bet it was planned that way."
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1882-1945), 32nd US President

"Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day."
Theodore Roosevelt, April 19, 1906

And that will never be allowed to happen. Anyone with any legitimate concern for their people or country will never rise above the lowest levels in public office.

It just isn't designed to work any other way.




K. Ferguson
said

While listening to Mr. Obama speak after last evening after winning his states in Super Tuesday, it struck me that this candidate clearly has an ego the size of his country. He claims that if he were elected President, he would cure ALL of the country's ills. How presumptuous of him, especially since he has yet to articulate in detail how he plans to do this. The phrase "caveat emptor" comes to mind. Be careful America. What you are buying may not be what you will get. No doubt Mr. Obama is smart. So smart, he is fooling the public into thinking he can fix it all with rhetoric.

At least Mrs. Clinton is an open book. It still amazes me how the public can be so critical of her and her husband, the former president, for his personal discretions even though his public record was positive for his country - both nationally and globally. That he was impeached for his actions is astonishing when considering that the current president has gotten away with acts that are unconstitutional, treasonous, and deadly. They have not only cost the lives of numerous citizens, but also trampled on the freedoms of the American people. America needs a real "common sense" revolution. Let's hope it prevails during this very important election.


Earl Robert
said

As an outsider living in the Great White North,(Canada Eh!), Ron Paul makes a lot of good points. Americans should take a closer look and start asking him more questions. He doesn't have a chance but he does have a lot of good ideas that should be discussed. It's all about money and Americans are looking at a disaster if they don't address those issues.


sophus
said

Why does Obama have at least twice as much money as Hillary. She is for universal health care; he is for buying your own -- from insurance companies.

The insurance companies spent millions trying to get Bill Clinton impeached. So what would they do to stop a repeat try to get universal health insurance. Listen to what Obama says about health insurance.


The Show Must Go On!
said

I thought there was going to be a clear Democratic leader after last night, but it's fascinating that Obama wins more States, and yet Hillary walks away with more delegates. Also stunning was how little impact all those Kennedy endorsements really had - Hillary took all of those.

As far as the person who wrote the "Where Are The Leaders?" comment, there are several and this is a FAR more interesting contest than the last several. Unfortunatley you obviously wish for someone who is on the Religious Right to lead the US, and my only comment to that is Religion and Politics DON'T Mix.

And no I am not an Atheist....quite the opposite.


For Obama I stand
said

Sen.Obama has a really good shot at winning this race.He has put himself out there and he is not turning back we can all see that.As for Sen Clinton I don`t think America is ready for a woman president.After the tears in New Hampshire what else is she going to weap about in the white house. I don`t think America wants another Clinton in the white house anyways.I stand with Obama all the way to the White House...Go Obama..Go..This race is so exciting!!!


Lart from Above
said

It was interesting spending the evening with my fellow American-Canadians at the Democrats Abroad polling station in downtown Toronto last night.

I was glad to see Clinton win a majority of the popular vote and (probable) delegate count. Whoever becomes the Democratic nominee is going to have to work hard to undo the damage done in the past seven years. America needs to stop stealing from the poor and giving to the rich, to stop stealing from the future with bloated (and linked) trade and government deficits, to provide the same health care for the sick as it does for the healthy, to use the benefits of scientific discovery to improve the health of the next generation, to normalize the lives of working families caught in the complexities of racist immigration laws, to ensure equal rights for all regardless of gender or sexual orientation, and to protect the rights of women to choose what happens to their own bodies. America needs to stop fighting a "pre-emptive" war that wastes trillions of dollars and more lives than any imaginable threat, and restore the traditional national security objective of protecting America and its allies from real enemies, using force only as a response to actual armed attack.

The nuances of policy and personality difference between Democratic candidates are interesting, but ultimately the Democratic Party will have to work as one team to defeat the Republicans.


Craig
said

McCain is the next president with Guilliani as the vice. Americans are not ready for a women (especially a Clinton) for president... nor an African American. that's how it is in the states.


Scott H.
said

I like McCain... a moderate or small c conservative who will take a cautious and realistic approach to the United States' future.

I think McCain would do a great job of mending fences without straying entirely into the realm of a closed off protectionist state as Obama would. And funny enough, McCain is much less hawkish than Hillary.


Gail
said

An interesting Super Tuesday with lots of media pundits analyzing by race, gender and religion. None of the three left in the race know how to turn the US economy around. We're in for either a MexAmeriCanada if McCain gets in, or a highly taxed nanny state neighbour under the Dems who will impact our trade agreement, which will sadly affect our Canadian economy. Mitt Romney would have been the best choice with his business experience, even though his campaign could have been stronger. The media has once again forged the path for decision-making for the population and turned it into a popularity vote with their coverage.


Sonny
said

This will continue on... Obama is campaigning very well.
As the people get to know him, he will improve.

He is leading in the pledged delegates derived from people who will be voting this fall... Hillary is leading with the party brass.

The reality is that if Sen. Hillary RODHAM were running she would not be so viable.

The Clinton name and infrastructure makes here competitive. Much like Bush Sr. ensuring Bush Jr. took it...
Obama is doing this from the grassroots - the people...


DW
said

It is better that Clinton get voted in because of her abilities, rather than Obama getting voted in because he is black.
This you can plainly see by the states that he won in.



Allan Eizinas
said

The trends appear to indicate;

For the Democrats a Hillary-Obama or Obama-Gore ticket.

For the Republicans a McCain-Lieberman ticket.

The Americans will never elect a woman or black for president. Republican McCain is an old 72 years old, is unable to raise his arms over his head, has had cancer surgery and is still suffering from being used as a punching bag and pin cushion for 5 years by the Vietcong.

McCain will be elected President but will be unable to serve out the term and Vice President Lieberman, who is quite sympathetic to Canadian interests, will be the new President of the United States.

Perhaps not.



Anne M
said

It is sad that Americans cannot see the values in Mitt Romney. He is a decent family man and has experience running a state gov't. But God forbid, we vote for someone who has Christian values.The US will fall if they don't go back to the basic lifestyle, and stop letting Hollywood and TV dictate how they should be living.What they are doing, is living an unrealistic existance.


Buster B. Brown
said

What a strange and confusing way to elect a party leader. I don't like it . Time for a lot of changes in the USA.


Sandra from Canada
said

I agree with K. Ferguson. Bush is doing far worse than what Mr. Clinton did and they are letting him get away with it. We don't need to hear about civilians getting killed in IRAQ, too many innocent civilians dying for no reason, except they are in the wrong place at the wrong time. Very sad.

We need a woman to stand for America and that is Hilary Clinton. A woman who is for peace and not war.




Grace in Montreal
said

Obama does not really have much substance and is selling an unviable dream to those in slumberland wanting to believe in something. If he wins, he's got nothing to show for in terms of experience and foreign policy know how. He came out of nowhere and is snowing the American people!! The American's are more ready to accept a woman than a black man with a foreign sounding name for president. At least she puts her money where her mouth is and backs it up.

She has been so overly scrutinized and has come out as being honest and reliable. Someone who gets things done ... the one to beat! They really haven't scrutinzed Obama much and that's simply because there is nothing there, he's had no major accomplishment, has no substance.

The Kennedys are backing Obama as being so similar to JFK, probably down to a possible tragic end should he come to power. The endorsement by the Kennedy's obviously didn't have the impact, they hoped to achieve and hallelujah for that!! I hope to God Americans get it right this time, they need a good president ... one they will find in Hillary Clinton.


FreakAlert
said

The Highwayman,

Very well written. It's just too unfortunate that the masses are deliberately dumb-downed.


RRO
said

I laughed last night watching Obama supporters talking about how he won Red States and it would translate well in a General Election. The reality is those are the states he won't win in a general election.
Mean while it destracted from the fact that he has not won a single state a democrat has to win to take the white house ie. Florida, California and New York. All three of these gave convincing wins to Sen. Clinton.
In an election all the Republicans can do is throw the same mud they have been throwing at Hillary for a decade. Obama on the other hand is new to the stage, who knows what kind of skeletons he's got. Obama has been in office for only 4 years, two of which he spent running for President. No one really knows how he stands on issues. As much as people want change, Obama is very Liberal a word that will destroy him in a general election. Obama clings to the only two votes of note during his tenure, the vote on Iraq and the vote on Iran, why because that has been pretty much it for his voteing record.
Hillary is and remains the only person who can beat McCain and take the White House. I say Hillary win the primary, slap Barrack with the VP office and run straight to the White House.

Devon K.
said

To Sandra from Canada:

"We need a woman to stand for America and that is Hillary Clinton. A woman who is for peace and not war."

That you actually wrote this tells me you haven't been watching Hillary Clinton for the past seven years. She's been one of the most hawkish and pro-war Senators in the United States. She voted for all of the Iraq Funding and supported the Surge.

You might want to rethink your ideal Hillary image for something a little more based on Earth.



Eric
said

Ron Paul's a joke.

There. I said it.

Jason in Vancouver
said

What is so great about McCain? He seems like more of a conservative than his main competition. He is crazy about military might. Unlike Huckabee who says that American foreign policy has contributed to anti-Americanism around the world.


Dan
said

Scott H. - excuse me? Hillary more hawkish than John McCain? HA HA HA. Clearly you haven't been hearing him speak... "bomb bomb bomb, bomb Iran...". As far as destructive Republicans go (and they will be the ones to blow up this planet one day), I've always liked him most because he is more moderate socially. Having said that, he has been talking about radical Islamic fundamentals being the most important issue the US has to face, and it's just not true. It's that confrontational attitude that is CREATING more radicals. No, the US needs to start using more diplomacy and build bridges around the world to clean up after 7 years of destructive short-term decisions of GWB. Oh yeah, and the trillions of overspending that are currently jeopardizing the American economy right now.

Rob
said

Two interesting things about last night's results....
on the Dem side, Clinton wins Massachusetts... the Kennedy ghost finally loses its hold on the party.
on the GOP side, Huckabee wins 5 states, and comes in strong in a number of others... and graceful in defeat. The spectre of a McCain-Huckabee ticket looms, together putting together a broad base of support and pragmatic consensus building which could spell trouble for the Dems and return the GOP to the White House in November.
Full speed ahead to the next set of primaries!

Check Her Out....
said

I think there are lots of people that need to do research about Hillary Clinton. Both Clintons are quite possibly the most currupt politicians in the last several decades. I would have no problem whatsoever voting for a woman president...just not that woman, NO WAY. I also would not have a problem voting for a black man to be president. People comment on arrogance by other politicians...the Clintons are as bad as they get...Hillary in particular. God help us all if she gets the job.


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