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Khadr shot by U.S. forces before capture: witness
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Date: Mon. Feb. 4 2008 9:39 PM ET
TORONTO U.S. forces shot Omar Khadr twice in the back before the young Canadian terror suspect allegedly killed one of their commandos during a 2002 firefight in Afghanistan, according to one witness.
The unidentified U.S. fighter said Khadr was hit by shrapnel and was facing away from the firefight when he was shot inside an al Qaeda compound.
The statement came on a day Khadr's lawyers were pushing to have all the charges against him dropped.
The legal representatives of the Canadian being held in Cuba's Guantanamo Bay appeared at the military tribunal on Monday.
They argued for the dismissal of the charges based on the following criteria:
- The fact that the tribunal itself was not established until after the alleged crimes occurred.
- Their belief that the crimes occurred during a legitimate military exchange.
Khadr, now 21, was 15 when he was captured by U.S. forces in July 2002 while fighting against the Americans in Afghanistan. He stands accused of lobbing a grenade that killed a U.S. Special Forces commando.
The tribunal heard arguments Monday on whether it has the right to try Khadr for his alleged crimes. He is accused of murder, conspiracy and providing material support to terrorism, and could face up to life in prison if convicted.
The eyewitness also said a second enemy fighter was alive inside the compound when he entered. Khadr's defence lawyers said this casts doubt on the U.S. government's conclusion that Khadr threw the grenade.
"It does raise questions as to basic facts of the government's case," said Khadr's lead defence lawyer, U.S. Navy Lt.-Cmdr. William Kuebler.
The judge, army Col. Peter Brownback, did not immediately issue a ruling.
Khadr was not shackled during his appearance Monday. He wore a white prison jumpsuit and had a short trimmed beard, and kept his eyes on the floor during much of the appearance, The Associated Press reports.
The tribunal heard from Rebecca Snyder, one of Khadr's defence lawyers, that Khadr can't be tried for murder as a war crime because the offence occurred during a battle and should be classified under traditional laws of war.
"Soldiers are not protected targets," she argued. "That is part of what war is about, killing soldiers."
Earlier Monday, Khadr's Canadian lawyer Dennis Edney told CTV's Canada AM the defence had a number of concerns.
"We have a number of motions before the judge," lawyer Edney said.
"One, of course, is that Omar Khadr be designated a child soldier. The other is we're challenging the definition of terrorism, particularly Omar Khadr being detained as a terrorist on a tobacco field. Essentially, we're challenging all the various indictments against Mr. Khadr."
The lead prosecutor in the tribunal, Marine Corps Maj. Jeffrey Groharing, said Khadr wasn't following accepted ruled of legitimate warfare and therefore should be tried by the special court.
He pointed out that Khadr conducted surveillance in civilian clothing, and lived with women and children at a compound where the fighting took place.
"The accused and the terrorists he was working with did not belong to a legitimate army, they belonged to al Qaeda,'' Groharing said.
Col. Peter Brownback, who is presiding over the hearing, did not immediately issue a ruling.
Edney said Monday's court proceedings in Cuba are an "extremely meaningful" part of the trial process, but he questioned whether the outcome would be favourable towards his client.
He said the Canadian government has let his client down, and must share in taking responsibility for his current plight.
"The Canadian government stands out amongst most other civilized countries throughout the world. It has not only failed to criticize Guantanamo Bay as a blight on the rule of law, it has not said a single word on behalf of Omar Khadr," Edney said.
"And that stands in contrast to the language it uses when criticizing the Chinese government's human rights record. So Canada will not say a single word of criticism about Omar Khadr to the Americans, and by not doing so, one then would suggest Canada is implicated with the Americans on their view of the law and the on war on terrorism."
Amir Attaran, a law professor at the University of Ottawa, called the tribunal a "kangaroo court"
"He was a child soldier and there has not been in the Western world a prosecution against a child soldier since the 18th century. So this is something really quite perverse that the United States court is doing, and that's the point of his lawyers, it should be thrown out of the court, done with," Attaran told Canada AM.
Edney said his first challenge was just to meet with his client. He spent much of yesterday waiting to meet with him, but was eventually denied the opportunity "because of security and various other strange reasons."
He said it was difficult to discuss their strategy because security restrictions prohibit Khadr from seeing all the evidence against him.
Kuebler told The Associated Press that the trial, if it proceeds, could set a dangerous precedent.
"The best case scenario is the judge does the right thing and dismisses the charges on the grounds that Congress did not intend this system to apply to a minor,'' Kuebler said.
He said the judge would be the first in western history to preside over a trial for alleged war crimes committed by a child.
The U.S. Defence Department maintains that the tribunal system established by the Bush administration in 2006 is the most appropriate venue to prosecute Khadr. He has been described as an "enemy combatant" by the U.S.
Khadr is accused in court documents of travelling through Afghanistan and Pakistan with his father from the time he was 10 years old. His father, an alleged al Qaeda financier, took him with him to meet with militant leaders such as Osama bin Laden, the documents allege.
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.


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MHB
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Evan from the GTA
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Dave
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Scott H.
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Shamaro
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Sean
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What's next? Are we going to begin excusing adult soldiers for their actions because they started as a child soldier? Will the Leftists in the country claim that their actions are a result of a brainwashed youth and that they shouldn't be punished for "being victimized as a child into this behaviour"?
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Kevin
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another arm-chair politician
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Lee Allen
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I feel that the most important thing to remember of all this is that for six long years he has been denied any due process or fair legal repersentation. This is why the world is such a mess. It is policies that governments make to suit their own immediate needs that angers so many!
Nick
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Our responsibility to be fair must be discharged with some sense of preservation of the conditions from which we can enjoy our safety.
Defies logic
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CWS
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Bill Peters
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LJB
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Lart from Above
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The Americans have no business holding anybody in a facility outside the rule of law. Every accused under the control of American authorities should be entitled to the protections of American law. Canada has a responsibility to object to its citizen being held at the Guantanamo prison, as every other Western democracy has already done.
Rona from Canmore
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fixhist, Toronto
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It is responsibility of ISAF/NATO to keep record of detainees and be responsible for fair justice under International charters and justice.
Since, Canada has assumed charge of command,
Maj.-Gen. Marc Lessard can be asked to get charge of Mr.Khadr issue and assure fair justice under IHRC charter clause 66(needs confirmation).
It is against laws on combat to remove detainees from country attacked (except for security concerns).
Jennifer
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David_K
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Morgan
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David Dunlop
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Max
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Enough...
Mamadou Diop
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Richard
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Chris from Ottawa
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If we, as a society, are not satisfied with a law, then it is up to our governments to change that law. But if we make any claims of being a civilized country, then we must govern ourselves by the rule of our own laws as they exist. As should the Americans or any other civilized nation, lest there be anarchy (which is what the terrorists want).
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greg
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Gerry B
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Chris from Ottawa is bang on here. He was a child and a soldier. That, by definition, is a child soldier. I don't see how it can be argued. If you don't like the definition, then make it known at election time. Let's stop the pleas to emotion and the sensationalism.
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Flanagan
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As much as I despise the Khadr family, torturing and punishing a child for the sins of the parents is not the way for a civilized country to behave.
BW
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The reason that the majority of Canadians have no sympathy for this child and his family has nothing to do with their RACE rather the terrorist values that they espouse.
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Gary Findlay
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Stephanie
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Ray - North Bay
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One more thing, he might have been 15, but he knew exactly what he was doing.
Let's focus on supporting our troops' safe,quick return home.
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I don't think Canada and our government owe anything to Khadr or his family. Thy have spit in Canada's face.
I do think, however, that the government MUST stand up for internationaly recognized conventions and norms of justice. The US fails on all counts: not only to Khadr but other detainees.
It is a very dangerous precedent to set by passively condoning the US and their mickey mouse judical system.
Who's next?
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-Mercenaries are not legally combatants, and are therefore not accorded POW status.
-Children are protected persons under GC IV, but this protection may be waived if they partake in hostilities.
- Article 8 of the Rome Statute has declared enrolment of any child under the age of 15 a war crime.
- Article 117 of GC III requires that detained children must be repatriated as soon as possible after guarantees have been given that they will not be used as combatants.
There are many slippery slope arguments here: (1)how can Canada guarantee that Khadr will not be used as a combatant, when his acts were not sanctioned by the state to begin with? (2)Canada did not recruit Khadr to fight, and the Taleban is no longer a legitimate entity, who's accountable? (3) Canada did not recruit the Khadr family to fight alongside the Taleban, nor did they sanction their actions (they were mercenaries, cut and dried).
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If this case is not treated as enemy combatant, what will stop other countries from recruiting under 15 year olds to do the dirty work, knowing that if caught they will not be procecuted. Same thing is happening now with the GANG CRIMES in our Cities. The hard criminals are recruiting kids to sell drugs, rob, and turf war actions. They also know that because of our archaic youth offenders law, they can do whatever and only get a splap on the wrist.
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fixhist, Toronto
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It is premature to prejudge without his case being considered.
ISAF/NATO in Afghanistan is under UN authorization and defined guidelines.
In case of Mr. Khadr his present location has made has created legal lacunae.
If NATO/ISAF gets him back to Afghanistan, rest will be procedural.
we know parliament is already seized with the matter of handling detainees in Afghanistan.
Canadian Commander Incharge Maj.-Gen. Marc Lessard should arrange Mr.Khadr's transfer in custody of Canadian forces, for proper assessment and trial as per Canadian forces codes/Civil trial.
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DW
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Something to think about.
Rob
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They seem to be mum about it as it may not wash as a good enough reason among pollsters.
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He is FIFTEEN years old. Not seventeen. Not sixteen.
We believe as Canadians that people under the age of eighteen may not and often do not have the requisite mental capacity to fully understand and appreciate right from wrong and the consequences of actions taken at that age.
This isn't a matter that he was 17 years old and 11 months at the time he was captured or joined. He was 15 when captured.
End of story. Trying him as a criminal IS a crime against humanity.