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Date: Mon. Jan. 28 2008 11:15 PM ET
Prime Minister Stephen Harper says he accepts the "broad recommendations" of the Manley panel's report on Canada's future role in Afghanistan.
Harper told an Ottawa news conference on Monday that his government accepts the recommendation for a mission extension -- including that any such extension be conditional on more NATO support and equipment.
The panel recommended that NATO find a 1,000-soldier battle group to assist Canada's 2,500 troops in Kandahar province -- one of the most insurgency-wracked parts of Afghanistan.
It also said Canada's soldiers should be supplied with helicopters and aerial drones.
"In terms of equipment, Canada already has it on order and has for some time," Harper told reporters. "But both of those recommendations will have to be fulfilled or Canada will not proceed with the mission in Afghanistan. We believe they are essential to our success."
The U.S. will move 3,200 Marines to southern Afghanistan in the spring, but only for seven months.
"While the case for the Afghan mission is clearly compelling, the decision to allow our young men and women in uniform to continue to be in harm's way demands the responsibility to give them a strong chance of success," Harper said.
"The panel has made a clear case that there can't be a definitive timeline placed on when NATO has finished the job in Afghanistan and when Afghans can take responsibility for their own security. We agree."
However, Canada's work in Afghanistan should be reviewed on progress towards benchmarks within two to three years' time, he said.
Any extension of Canada's mission will need Liberal support in Parliament to pass. Liberal Leader Stephane Dion indicated a possible deal if some conditions are met, including rotating Canadians out of the volatile Kandahar region within the next three years.
"(Harper) should push for the principle of rotation," Dion told reporters. "If we don't have this principle, I don't see how this mission will work for the long haul."
But some Liberals, including defence critic Denis Coderre, suggested they would not risk an election on the issue.
"Personally, I wouldn't go to an election on Afghanistan," he said.
Lobbying NATO
While a full response to the Manley report is weeks away, Harper said he would be leading a diplomatic effort to secure more support from NATO allies at a key meeting in Bucharest, Romania in April.
He thought the report would give him "tremendous ammunition" there -- and he gave a warning.
"Canada has done what it said it would do and more," Harper said. "We now say we need help. If NATO can't come through with that help, then frankly I think NATO's own reputation and future will be in grave jeopardy."
The government will introduce a motion this spring seeking support of the House of Commons for the mission, which is set to end in its current form on February 2009.
"I would invite the opposition parties to think carefully about their positions and to give this report the consideration it deserves," Harper said, adding he would be speaking with Liberal Leader Stephane Dion.
Harper didn't say whether the vote would take place before or after the Bucharest meeting.
The prime minister said Canada and its allies are making progress, but admitted it's a complex and difficult mission.
Criticisms
The Manley report supported the general thrust of the Afghan mission but had some criticisms, including calling on the prime minister to take a more active role in both leading political direction of the mission and for better communications.
Harper said the report criticizes governments, and not specifically his own, "but we take the criticism seriously.
"If I can be frank about it, this is an extremely difficult mission. We don't believe it's perfect. We never have," he said.
"There has been no issue that has caused me as prime minister has more headaches, or more heartache, than this particular mission. I don't think that's going to change in the future."
Harper said he thought the panel would acknowledge that the government has taken steps to address some deficiencies noted, such as an Afghan communications task force to improve dissemination of information about the mission.
"Let's be truthful ... a robust military mission, where there are casualties, is never going to be easy to communicate. And it is never going to be popular to communicate."
Seventy-eight Canadian soldiers and one diplomat have died since 2002 while serving in Afghanistan. A Harris-Decima poll conducted for The Canadian Press after the fall throne speech found 60 per cent of respondents opposed to a mission extension to 2011.
On the Afghan detainees issue, Harper said in French he wouldn't publicly discuss details of military operations.
However, he expected that transfers -- halted in early November after a case of torture was confirmed -- would resume in the future.
With a report by CTV's Robert Fife in Ottawa
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T-Roy
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Roger T
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Neil
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Marie E./ Calgary
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Roy in Greenwood, Nova Scotia
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I'm a retired career soldier as was my father before me. The purpose of the armed forces should not be to build schools and dig wells for those who won't pick up the shovel themselves.
Get our troops out now. Nato? Hint: We won. The Cold War ended almost two decdes ago. Now Nato is a bloated anacronysm trying to justify it's existence.
DCI
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To me; NATO is just an embarrasment to the world.
Jonathan
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Chris C
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Dave
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to Force an Election .
anna
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The Liberals and the NDP love freedom, as long as someone is willing to pay the price. Thank God for the leadership of Stephen Harper.
paul
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FreakAlert
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Arron; Halifax
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The Maney report and the combat mission in Afghanistan are both farces.
Dave in Surrey
said
So MacKay is Chaparoned by the US Ambassador when he visits the troops and now has no say on Afghanistan, in fact is being told what to do by the Liberals...
Craig
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Chris from Calgary
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Scott
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Dano
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As a soldier of 17 years, you can now say
you've met one who was not confident in the mission. And there are more.
Raj
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Maybe we should see what Mr Dithers thinks? he was the one that chose this mission, and where to place them.
John
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Why is it that NO answer from Harper ever satisfies some people?
A coalition of diverse committee members examined an issue, made recommendations... still people complain and throw insults.
Is there any possibility these people would have been complimentary IF the PM had rejected the report? Of course, not. The objective is not objective analysis - it's negativism against anything that does not align to their pre-determined views.
The same people demand objective thinking, yet simply refuse to demonstrate objectivity themselves... to consider the possibility that staying to do the job IS the best option (in a situation the Liberals got us into!).
Since when were the only intelligent people those who agreed with the arm chair quarterbacks?
To you ACQs, go ahead - express your opinion yes, but understand, it's only YOUR opinion. You are neither inerrant or infallible.
Andrew
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chris c
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Dan/ PPCLI (ret.)
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Other Nato countries are not chickens at all but democracies. The governments of those countries are actually listening to the people who do not support an active combat role.
It's amusing that the war keeners who support killing Afghanis to promote democracy are so disdainful of the will of the people in their own country.
Pat_Pending
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You are absolutely right. Why is NATO still around? The cold war is over, there is not Warsaw Pact, and NATO is totally vestigial. It fights wars to justify its own existence. It's like the UN but with guns and dominated by the Americans with the British as obedient little lap dogs.
We should get out of Afghanistan and get out of Nato.
Jonathan - for your information, Spain and Britain were bombed for their PARTICIPATION with the US, not for withdrawing. Since Spain withdrew, there has been no further attacks there. OUR PARTICIPATION in Afghanistan threatens us, not our withdrawl.
Jim in the West
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From one retired soldier who's family is career military to another, the Canadian Forces have a long and proud history as "builders". We know how to fight, being recognized the world over for our combat skills, but only the Special Forces "just fight". Canadians from WWI and WWII helped rebuild farms, hospitals, and schools overseas. They did it without Ottawa telling them to, and they did it without a lot of media attention, but they nevertheless did it.
Speaking of the Great Wars, we also have a long and proud history of fighting for those that couldn't, wouldn't, or didn't know how to. Nothing different than what we're doing in Afganistan.
Strength & Honor
Faith & Fury
Vahan
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jim
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I can't help but think if the United States spent lees time trying to force their way of life and beliefs on other countries we would all be better off. They got a little spanking over seven years ago and nothing since. This nonsense has been going on for longer then the second world war. George Bush is a war monger the sooner he's gone the better off the world will be. Bring the troops home now. P.S. The United States is has also done a great job with the sub prime mortgage mess. When is the world going to wake up?
Jack
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Jim McB
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The lanquage, the words, the tone never varies in this group. I guess when your mind is made up for you, all you have to do it cut and paste.
Our family to a person supports the government and the mission. We have close to a hundred years of military service under our collective belts and family still serving. We regret that soldiers in the field may read some of these responses, you get to be a bit more sensitive about what people say when the shots you are taking are from real ordinance rather than ill considered words.
Saints Geenwood NS
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You have now met two.And trust me we are not alone not supporting the insanity in Afghanistan.
DCR-Toronto
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Pablo Duvnjak
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Soon enough Nato troops will follow.
And by the way, while they were figthing the russian they were very good, now all of sudden they are just a bunch of tugs.
Wes
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DJT
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You hit the nail on the head perfectly..... Canada is also part of NATO as a result we have to send troops where they are needed, but this role should be shared with other nations in a much greater role.
Wayne
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Graeme
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Our soldiers are needlessly dying because they don't have helicoptors, which are much less likely to get hit by IEDs. I blame this on Mulroney and Chretien and the way they handled the military in the 90s. But, our past problems aside, it's a slap in the face to have allies with the equipment we desperately need refusing to help us because there is some risk to their pilots.
Hopefully this isn't just empty threats. If our allies can't even help us, then I'm afraid I can't support the mission any longer.
Mary
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Chris from Calgary
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Isn't it funny to see how two ex-Patricias have such different views on this subject? NATO HAS hung us out to dry. There's no two-ways about it, Dan.
Peter
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Peace
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Peacekeeping myth
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Why is it with you Liberals there's always a large gulf between what you think we do and what our actual record as a country is?
We've been the loser cousin in NATO for years, mostly under Chrétien. We need force and weapons in order to do the humanitarian part in Afghanistan.
Ron MacDougall
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The insideous march towards a world dominated by economic greed and militarism needs to be stopped.
The worst thing is the rich and powerfull slaughtering and pillaging the poor and destitute under the pretext of freedom, democracy, terrorism etc. etc. Lets return to humanity.
The deaths of 78 soldiers and a diplomat are, sadly well know.
A report shows that the full cost of the war will be $7.2billon by March 2008.(less well known)
That means that we are spending $100 millon every month on the war in Afghanistan.
Surprisingly, the goverment is prolonging Afghanistan's suffering by clinging to our combat role and refusing to support a negotiated end to the war.
Boggy
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TOM G.
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Mr Harper was elected to do a tough job let him do it.
God Bless CANADA
Stu Maj. (retd)
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I hope you weren't surprised. Our 22 year-olds are beig killed to make Afghanistan a 'better place' for their 22-year-old opium farmers. It's ridiculous. Chalk up another soldier and member of a military line of soldiers who says let's exit this debacle.
Paul out West
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Joe
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John Specter: Oromocto
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NO, Canada was not attacked on 9/11. By participation in a military role we've taken our diplomatic cards off the table...where we may have had some actually impact and this current not Mickey Mouse military pretension.
Re the comments on Nato. I did two tours in Europe. The Soviets were a formidable force to be stopped with military presence. The Afghan fighters, whoever they are, pose ZERO threat to me or my family.
Sarakdelal
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Dave in Surrey
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The only way for Harper to get anything right, is to let the Liberals tell him how and what to do...
Maybe he should Fire Mackay and appoint Ignatieff as Minister of Defense, then fire Bernier and appoint Rae as Minister of Foreign Affairs, then we wouldn't have to waste our money on a report to know what the Liberals have decided is the best course of action!!!
steve I. C.
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We need force and weapons in order to do the humanitarian part in Afghanistan.
I hope you are not a religious man because with an attitude like that you would give the worst impression of what a religious institution stands for and preaches, and I challenge anyone that is religious to rationalize those thoughts to your god on your day of judgement.
For all those that like to compare past wars with this war, I think it would fare to say that never has violence solved anything, and if violence was the solution then why don't we teach our children to solve their problems?
justin from ontario
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"For all of those Liberals and NDP ers who want to see the Afghanistan mission fail, what was the misson that the Liberals committed us to in the first place?"
For three years before Harper took office, we had very few casualties, since he has taken office we have added 65+ names to that list. We went from a security force to a offensive force, thats not what Canada signed on for. Lets take a look back to 2001.....after 9-11 the US govt. said to the Taliban give us Osama Bin Laden or we will attack you! they wouldnt, so the US attacked. If they would have given up Bin Laden they wouldnt of attacked Afghanistan. Nobody would of cared about the plight of the Afghan people, the lack of womens rights and so on. Even the right wing war-mongers who continue to post ridiculous comments on this board. The foreign policy we have followed since than has been nothing but detrimental to Canada and the rest of the world, you dont fight terrorism with terrorism.
May
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General Hillier stated on January 10th, 2008 that although Canada signed a 3.2 billion dollar contract for the supply of new helicopters in 2004, because of delays the helicopters will not arrive for at least another 30 months. In the meantime the government is spending several thousand dollars a day to maintain their aging fleet. Canada is spending billions of dollars in the war effort, not to mention the loss of lives of our young soldiers, and the US has for the most part stayed away from the most violent action in southern Afghanistan. If the super power of the world will only commit extra troops for seven months, I don't understand why the Canadian Government doesn't pull our troops out at the same time. We were asked to support the US in this war, but where have they been??? I say, dedicate our troops to seven more months and then bring our men and women home. As for the billions of dollars worth of new helicopters on order, Canada is stuck with a bill for military expenses that arrived too late. Canada has done it's part and it's time for others to step up to the plate.
Boggy
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Second of all, May...get your facts straight. The Americans are putting that many more in there for 7 months. The have thousands of troops there and have had over 400 casualties in Afghanistan alone. So please don't twist your liberal agenda ok? How can anyone take you seriously if you simply forget to tell the facts and make up your own! This mission is backed by the UN and NATO, and you better believe that your good 'ol Dion will back it again. There is no way the Liberal party won't back Harper. They would be abandoning their own legacy of the type of party they are.
Disappointed
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Johnny
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I hate the idea that anyone is losing their lives over this issue, but the fact is that the United States was attacked by Al Qaeda forces seven years ago. Many of the terrorists who were responsible for those attacks were trained in terrorist camps in Afghanistan.
In my opinion it is intolerable that a country should be allowed to continuously harbour terrorists, and so action had to be taken.
I would further add that it was the Liberals who sent our troops into the Kandahar province, and not Harper. Many Liberals voted to extend the mission as well.
This war is not Harper's fault, and nor is it Dion's, but they have a collective responsibility to see this through for our own security and for the security of the women and girls who were treated like cattle before the new government came to power.
larry
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The report also recommends better communication of the mission... and I would say that 'part' of this problem is the media phobia over reporting on casualties and focusing on the opposition comments, and not bringing forward success stories.
I certainly hope that we and NATO stay to protect the innocents and to keep the extremists tied down over their.
Been There - Done That
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brenda
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Mr. T (Cdn Forces)
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Allan Eizinas
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Greg
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Also I don't think democracy can be forced on any people. It is something that the people must decide and fight for or it does not have any meaning.
I sometime think in these tribal regions that maybe it takes a dictator with an iron hand to keep the peace.