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Date: Mon. Jan. 21 2008 10:13 PM ET
The Toronto stock market took a massive hit of more than 600 points Monday, its largest single-day loss in seven years, as analysts showed concern about economic troubles south of the border.
The S&P/TSX composite index fell 4.74 per cnet, or 605 points. Last week's losses of 6.6 per cent had already wiped out the TSX's entire gains for 2007.
"When you factor in what's been happening since Tuesday, it's an almost 12-per-cent slide," BNN's Michael Hainsworth told CTV Newsnet.
"We have shaved more than 1,500 points off the TSX composite index so far."
Monday's loss took about $90 billion off the market's value, weakening the value of stocks that millions of Canadians hold in their pension plans or mutual funds.
The Canadian dollar fell to its lowest point since September, ending the day at 96.81 cents US, down 0.52 of a cent.
"It's all about emotion and the emotions are pretty negative right now," said Hainsworth. "Over at ScotiaMcLeod, Andrew Pyle, a strategist there, said we're close to erasing three out of every four dollars we've made since the bull run of June 2006."
In other economic news, Statistics Canada reported that rising auto sales helped drive a 0.3 per cent gain in wholesale sales in November. Otherwise, sales would have fallen 0.6 per cent.
The Bank of Canada is expected to cut its key rate by a quarter point on Tuesday, reducing it to four per cent. The move is designed to help protect Canada's economy from its slowing U.S. counterpart.
Patti Croft, vice-president of Philips, Hager and North Investment Management Ltd., told Newsnet she expects to U.S. Federal Reserve to aggressively cut rates in the near future.
Investors not buying Bush stimulus package
Monday's trading comes in the wake of an announcement from U.S. President George Bush on Friday, during which he detailed a fiscal stimulus package worth US$145 billion.
Congress would have to approve the plan, but investors have been signalling that they think the plan might not do enough to prop up the U.S. economy, which is suffering major problems in its housing and credit markets.
Investors have expressed concerns over the health of the U.S. financial system and believe Bush's response to the problem is too vague.
The U.S. markets were closed Monday because of the Martin Luther King Jr. national holiday.
In Asia, the Nikkei 225 index in Japan closed at 13,325.94 -- a two-year low. China's Shanghai Composite index dropped 5.1 per cent. Investors are worried that Chinese banks might be exposed to risky U.S. mortgage investments.
Markets were also down in India and Hong Kong. The latter's Hang Seng Index fell 5.5 per cent to 23,818.86 -- the worst percentage decline since 9/11.
In Europe, London's FTSE 100 index fell 323.5 points to 5,578.2 -- a drop of 5.5 per cent.
Frankfurt's DAX 30 dropped 523.98 points or 7.15 per cent to 6,790.19. The Paris CAC 40 also took a hit, going down 347.95 points or 6.8 per cent to 4,744.45.
"We would like to know if there is going to be some kind of fed action, immediate rate cuts of something, or will the selling wave continue?" said Christoph Schmidt, an analyst at N.M. Fleischhacker Trading Bank in Frankfurt.
"Because of all this fears and this worries the market won't come into a quiet mode, there's still a lot of action there."
Croft said people should remember that stocks are forward-looking mechanisms and that if the Fed does cut rates, the markets should bottom and then begin rebounding.
"Do have that longer-term perspective. There's incredible volatility, but opportunity awaits as well," she said.
With files from The Canadian Press
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.



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aj
said
It all has plus and minuses.
Don't worry. Just work hard, and try to enjoy life to the best of your ability.
alberta will survive
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The end is near, no thanks to greedy institutions that loaned money to people who could not afford homes in the first place... That and high levels of consumer debts led to massive delinquancies.
Barely a generation ago, people saved money to but stuff. Now everywhere you look, consumers are harassed into getting more credit. Instant gratification has finally found its nemesis WTF???
Sonny
said
The U$ president failed to recognize all the problems in the economy including poor holiday sales. The Gov't will try to throw good money to avoid a recession. Unfortunately, our respective economies are already in decline.
Business' will have to find new markets to expand OR consider cutting expenses soon.
Roch
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T-Roy
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Kanatian
said
This is what happens when so much is based on the war of terror industry of the failing right wingers.
This is an economy in need of a serious correction due to very poor foundations.
If the price of oil continues to plummet - look out for more war and alleged terror threats.
LME
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T-Roy: the neo-cons in both Canada & USA have lined the pockets of corporations & their cronies very nicely & now the working schmuck must pay for their greed & trickle down economic policies that only benefit the rich. Again, I ask when will people learn? When a neocon shows up pounding his chest, fear mongering & asking to build more weapons, maybe he's not the guy to vote for.
Just sayin.
JP
said
How the heck would moving the TSE to Calgary do ANYTHING?? The market is international, it doesn't matter where it's located in Canada...!
And anyway, you WANT it in a major population base where there is lots and lots of business, and you want in in an area of the country with that good old "can do" attitude.
Vahan
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DavidL
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Nick J Boragina
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Then again, its not sunshine and roses either. Just more "News, Bad: General"
JB
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The Real Estate market is next. Be careful.
Roch
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"How the heck would moving the TSE to Calgary do ANYTHING??"
It would present a more stable and safer environment (less gun crime) for stock brokers to work in, who are obviously very distracted by all the murders in Toronto lately.
Also, Liberal-voting Toronto needs a wake-up call, they are causing an economic downturnn.
Mau
said
Not really. Harper could offer an economic package that isn't contingent on everyone voting for him and before people actually lose their jobs. Also, under Harper the manufacturing sector has lost 300,000 jobs with no attempt by the neo-cons to help out except for the aid package 3 months down the road on which you have to support the neo-conservatives or to hell with you. Neither has there been attempt to diversify our economy under the Neo-cons and shift trade to other partners instead we have cozied up to the US on pretty much everything including foreign policy.
Adam, Ottawa
said
The sky is not falling; it's just a little grey.
Remember, no matter how cold the winter is, there's a springtime ahead.
Walter E.Eibisberger
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Dan
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ernie
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PissedCanuck
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Anthony
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BR
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Ricochet.
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Stephen B
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Deal with the facts:
1. Deficits were started by Trudeau in the 1970’s
2. During 13 years of Liberal rule the deficit was ended by a) cutting payments to the provinces which have now put them into debt and b) by higher taxes.
Opportuniy knocks!!
said
This typical over reaction is unwarranted and goes to show you most investors have their focus in the wrong place.
85% of the times where we have seen a massive sell off like this we see new highs within 12 months that follow.
T-Roy
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And in October 2007 we went into deficit for a month and should the US go into full recession then we will be back to posting deficits and not surpluses. This is due to the current neo-con governments little game in the mini budget that was supposed to trigger an election but didn't. We currently have the highest spending government in history who has short changed itself. Thats the danger with this regime. They are to busy playing games to actually focus on what they were elected for (not going to be elected for in the next election). Time to put this useless government to rest, they have no intention of actually running this country just to change it to conservatism so we can stomach the horrible policies they wish to inflict on us. Enough gamesmanship, time to actually do their jobs. And that does not include partaking in their own version of McCarthyism.
Regor
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Rob
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Simon
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When you are truly debt free you can weather almost any financial downturn.
The banks want you to pay them interest on your debts and then commissions on your mutual funds (preferably interest on the loan they give you to buy the mutual funds that they make commissions on!)
MR
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Lance
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Josh in Ontario
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ET
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Denise
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Nick T
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Owen_A
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For most of us it is important to ask how does this affect me?
After we have a firm grasp on reality on that basis, maybe we can dare speak for the rest of us without looking... silly.
Debbie
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Scott W
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Anthony
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Dave in Surrey
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I doubt the down turn will last for long, thinking it is a correction... I will sit and watch and try to judge the low point to use my savings to buy low stock prices...
Moving the TSE to Calgary, is possibly the dumbest thing I have ever read on here...
Roger T
said
Watch the Dow plunge 1000 points on Tuesday. Bet on it!
Don't under estimate the power of the BEAR.....it's gonna plunge 2500 points by end of week if our Gov't doesn't do anything besides the talk of spending on new war planes in fighting the war on Afghanistan and sending more troops. It's imminent, a recession is coming due to greedy politicians and corporates who put ALL of us in this mess. Save our economy before we head into a depression.
Richard
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"At least Canadian banks and financial institutions have more smarts not to play such a risky move."
See the Globe and Mail's story about the CIBC's misadventures that was featured on the CTV Web Site this past week-end.
http://www.reportonbusiness.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080118.r-cover-cibc19/BNStory/Business/home
Canadian Banks aren't any less greedy than American Banks, just check all the Service Charges YOUR Canadian Banks soak you for Daily in ATM fees, currency conversion fees, debit card use fees, etc., etc.
If you're not seeing any of these I'm assuming it's because you deal with the Bank of Your Mattress.
;o)
DJT
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Lola
said
This is no coincidence.
BJ
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JP
said
Just have a look around people and wake up!!!!
Ontario is hurting big time.
John Harding
said
I am an American fighting as hard as I can to get Ron Paul elected. It's a tough fight, it's getting very nasty, even dangerous. That man has been fighting for all that is right for many years and everything he's predicted has come to pass. Unfortunately the powers are misleading the people and most Americans are sheep. I am not proud of most people here in America, they're ignorant and self serving. I am proud to be an American though, the type of American that seems to now live in history. It's a shame.
LR
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NoWayJose
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Lorne
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Kevin
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Mau
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"speaks to poor management and over taxation. If this goes bust we can only blame this on the left wing governments of the past"
We have never had a federal NDP government. We have had a moderate centrist government called by the name Liberal Party and they fixed the deficits from the previous corrupt conservative government of Mulroney. We have always had sound economic performances under the liberals. In fact the strong economy which is starting to falter under the Conservatives was created with Liberal Policy. So what are you talking about with some left wing government nonsense? Its the reich-wing which has wreaked havoc on our economy yet again.
Jimmy
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I agree that it is sad to see the US have such pull over the entire World of trading, however a few of the Liberal fools commenting on it being Harper's fault need to get an education in Stock Markets before they go ranting about the Conservatives being at fault. Harper is not to blame here, any more than you could blame it on opposition parties. It's not political. Period.
Maybe I'm wrong though - maybe we should vote Dion into office so that he can abandon Afghanistan, invade Pakistan, raise our taxes back to where they were two years ago, and solve the problems of the World Trading Markets.
*Rolls Eyes*
Darren
said
Go right ahead, this won't last, we will be out of this by year end and a new bull will be forming.
It is so funny reading all the anti-conservative rants.
The ignorance in this country is incredible.
JP Levesque
said
and the
POORER are staying the same.
The Sun will rise tommorrow and life will go on.
Russ
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Dave in Surrey
said
For your information LR, Running surpluses and paying down debt during good times is fiscally responsible... You pay down debt during good times so you can ride out a recession and run deficits...
The Conservatives are killing economies by running deficits during bad and good times... Someone has to pay the debt, and when you have extra money that is when you do it... If you don't the service charge on the debt becomes higher and higher til it takes up the majority of your revenue...
Come on, this is first year economics, and I wouldn't be surprised if they taught it in High School now
Matt
said
This "Boom-Bust" strategy is how Neo-Cons get around not officially raising taxes, and actually lowering them. My dear fellow Canadians, we had value in the market and in property because it wasn't tapped into by the previous Governments. The conservatives did it here as in the states.
Research it.
David
said
"The markets are dropping, it is the conservatives fault, it is anyone's fault but our own!"
Les J
said
But, this raises an interesting point. As numerous posters refer this as a neo-con problem, wouldn't that make the Liberals, NDP and Bloc neo-cons as well? After all, Harper can't do anything without their cooperation.
Denise
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Michael Le Couteur CD
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Roger T
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No matter what is said because of today's stock fall nothing will ease investors & consumers confidence
Better to save more than ever now than spend. Rough ride ahead for the next few years.
No matter what is said in today's news becuase of the bear stock nothing will reverse that, since our Gov't is too attached to the US economy. It's a bit too late now and we are headed for a recession.
LR
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Deficits started under the liberal government of the 70s. I would also suggest that a dozen well trained apes could have had equally strong economic performance over the last 12 years because free enterprise always wins out. Plus, they wouldn't have stolen our money.
Its time to buy after an election year and renewed stability in the US the stocks are going up up up.
Andre
said
Time to start looking for great opportunities. When the lemmings seem to be everywhere, it means there are many good finds out there.
Brett G
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Mulroney brought in the GST because Trudeau (a fanatical Liberal), plunged our country into massive debt. It's fanatical Liberal policies that hurt Canadians. It's the Conservatives job to correct them to avoid economic collapse.
If you did your research, you would see that Liberals get voted in when the worlds economy is riding high, and Conservative governments are voted in when the world's economy begins to worry.
Do you honestly believe that Chretien/Martin were responsible for the worlds economic upswing during the 90's?
Get real. Go vent your ignorant conservative bashing somewhere else.
Kim
said
Everyone Relax....
AB
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Steve G
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Bubba from Halifax
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JDP
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While everyone is in a rush to blame Harper, let's not forget that he needed the support of some other party for EVERY bill and budget he has put through to date. If the Liberals and NDP had an ounce of integrity, they would have put a stop to the Conservative agenda long ago. But, seeing as how their political fortunes would likely suffer, they held off, and instead they pull the wool over their followers' eyes and feed them lines like "neo-con" and "Bush crony".
The US is now being forced to sleep in the bed it made for itself. $2B/week for the war in Iraq, the sub-prime mess, and the catastrophic debt will be costing America dearly soon. As soon as investors realize that we operate in a global economy with global partners, Canada will be able to re-focus its trade priorities and avoid catastrophe.
I hope...but until then, don't blame Harper for what is happening in the US. He has as much influence on those markets as you do.
JR from Canada
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Greg
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And, hey Albertans, no provincial society in Canada is intrinsically any better than any other, so maybe lighten up about Oil Heaven for a while unless you can prove that Ralph made the oil happen there when the world began; after all, oil is not a renewable resource, and once it's gone, then what?
david
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Joe
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MK
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Randall
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Jimmy
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As far as I am concerned, every single Liberal supporter in this forum should have nothing but PRAISE to give to Harper.
Think of it this way...
Dion is your leader. Dion is voicing your opinions to parliment, and when there are issues at hand - like a throne speech or a budget - he should be a LEADER and do what he feels his party & supporters would want him to do. If you guys don't have a leader who will lead, why not find another CAPABLE person to do the job? And if you feel he IS capable, then he should do as you the Liberals wish, and speak his mind about these types of issues. He should take a stand. Call an election, we conservatives are itching for a majority next time around!
But Alas, he is not a leader, he is more concerned about what he wants. (the big comfy chair) Just like the last Liberal government which was defeated when Canada saw how bad the scandles really were becoming.
Just my humble two cents, quit blaming the problem on Harper - when clearly it has nothing to do with Governments at all right now. Not "Canadian" governments anyway...
Paul beautiful BC
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Tom
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- people who think Stephen Harper somehow controls the world economy
- people who think "The Rich" (TM) have secret meetings where they decide the future price direction of the market
- people who think the physical location of the TSX has an impact on its operation
It proves beyond a doubt that "modern civilization" is just a sham. At the end of the day, the majority are just like animals: driven by emotions, not logic.
But I do agree with everyone who said that there is money to be made here. If you can suppress the emotions that everyone else is showing here, you'll have an unbeatable edge in the market.
mike
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Woo
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Rob
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Credit Gluttons Anonymous
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This is much different than any recessions in the past because after years of Very easy and cheap credit, US and Canadian consumers are carrying a tremendous amount of debt with over 2 years of negative savings. The only other time personal savings has been this low was during the Depression. And now monkey see monkey do, the Canadians are lining up to go into lifetime debt by paying WAY more than they should be on Ridiculously overpriced Canadian Real Estate (Alberta, BC, and now Sask). Look for the Canadian Real Estate Bubble to be the next one to pop.
Ryan
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Frank
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DCR-Toronto
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