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By: Andy Johnson, CTV.ca News
Date: Sun. Jan. 20 2008 8:59 PM ET
The prospect of a U.S. recession has some homeowners and prospective buyers nervous about the impact on the real estate market in Canada, but one economist says a slowdown could actually boost activity in Canada's housing sector.
It's not surprising that economic uncertainty in the U.S. has been the focus of much discussion and speculation in recent days, since Canada has followed the American lead during four of the last six U.S. recessions.
But Gregory Klump, chief economist for the Canadian Real Estate Association, said it's still an "open question" whether the U.S. slowdown will turn into a recession -- as defined by two consecutive quarters of negative economic growth.
"The chances are about 40 per cent, but the U.S. Federal Reserve is expected to cut interest rates and do so very aggressively to prop up their growth and keep them out of recession," Klump told CTV.ca.
"So while they're heading for a soft patch of growth it's an open question whether they'll enter a recession. My own thought is no, they won't."
There is a direct link between the economies of the two nations, which are each other's largest trading partner. If the U.S. demand for Canadian exports declines -- as the result of the strong loonie or a limping U.S. economy, for example -- the Canadian economy usually follows suit.
But even if the U.S. does slip into a recession, there's no guarantee Canada's strong real estate market will lose any steam. In fact it might do the opposite, Klump said.
That's because prospects for softer economic growth -- which is "the current sentiment in financial markets and the Bank of Canada" -- usually prompt the central bank to lower interest rates, which can make home ownership more affordable and more attractive, Klump said.
"Softer growth means lower interest rates and lower interest rates are positive for the housing market," he said.
Possibility of interest rate cuts
With that in mind, Klump said he expects the Bank of Canada to cut the interest rate by a quarter-point on Jan. 22, and again when they meet in March, he said.
However, he conceded, with the U.S. slowdown expected to continue to reduce Americans' demand for Canadian manufactured exports, housing markets in single-industry towns and regions in Canada that rely heavily on trade with the U.S. are likely to feel the pinch.
Cities like Toronto that have a wide diversity of industries, however, are better insulated to weather the storm, he said.
Avery Shenfeld, senior economist and managing director of CIBC World Markets, agrees the negative effects of a U.S. recession would likely be localized.
"Real estate markets in areas of the country that are heavily weighted to manufacturing could see softening up but national house prices may not be affected much," he told CTV.ca.
He added: "We would see some weakness in house prices, we could see some softening in house prices in areas of the country that are dependent on manufacturing."
Market in Canada's largest city
Andrew la Fleur, a Toronto real-estate agent and BlogTO.com's resident writer on the subject, told CTV.ca he hasn't seen any impact on the Toronto housing market yet. His clients, he said, aren't rushing to buy or sell and he hasn't heard any convincing arguments that a slowdown is likely to hit Canada's largest city.
That being said, he has noticed an increased level of trepidation among people looking to get into the real estate market for the first time -- a sentiment he said is at least partly linked to U.S. economic uncertainty.
"I am seeing the issues in the U.S. creeping into the conversation when it comes to 'should we enter into the market or not' or 'what happens if we buy and then the entire market collapses?'" la Fleur said.
"But it's nothing new. First time buyers always run all the nightmare scenarios through their minds before making a decision to buy. It's just that right now the hot-button topics seem to be the U.S. economy as well as the usual one heard in Toronto over the past decade -- there are too many condos going up therefore the market is about to crash."
In step with Klump and Shenfeld, la Fleur suggested Toronto and other major cities in Canada are insulated, and the impact of a recession will first be felt in manufacturing and export-based regions.
"Toronto is primarily a finance-based city and our economy is doing very well, and as long as that continues, the real estate market here should continue to be healthy," he said.
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.




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Global econoomy is healthy!
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Irene
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How is anyone going to be able to negotiate a morgage to buy a house let alone pay for it & how will the first time owners be able to keep the house they did buy & make the payments on that house?
Is the fallout of those jobs in forestry, manufacturing, etc. not going to spill off eventually into the retail sector by forcing workers to take minimum wages at Timmies, MacDonalds etc. even if their lucky enough to find a job?
What about the farming sector who before the recession even hit the US, who have been forced into bankruptsy due to fuel prices, mad cow disease just to name a few survive in a recession? We are talking about farms who have been in the family for decades?
It takes money to spend in order to stimulate the market but in a recession, any available money the poor working stiff has to spend is for food, housing, & fuel to transport them to their jobs if their lucky enough to have one.
John T
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With over 300,000 Canadians directly employed in forestry, and a further 200,000 employed in supporting industries, the impact of mill and plant closures will have a dramatic impact. This impact will be felt most painfully in rural communities which are dependent on forestry. Forestry and other resource industries provide almost all the well-paying jobs that keep such communities viable.
As a result of rampant closures, we are likely to see fiscal migration from rural to urban centres that will drive down real estate prices in rural areas and bolster demand and prices in urban areas.
There will be opportunities for speculators picking over the bones of shattered communities, and despair as people try to begin anew in an expensive housing market.
The loss of wealth for Canada and the accompanying extent of human suffering (discounting the profits of speculators) is a good reason for Harper and Flaherty to revisit their Machiavellian attitude about industry support.
Canadian resource industries, particularly the forestr sector are caught in a perfect economic storm of rising energy prices, an appreciating dollar, and increased global competition from developing countries without social or environmental constraints. As the need to invest in updated and efficient facilities increase, the ability to attract investors diminishes accordingly.
Flaherty states that band-aid solutions won't work. Well, it's a small price to pay if you can save the limb. It is time to revisit the idealized and outdated Friedman policies the government is following, and consider alternatives, such as subsidizing investment in resource industries through tax incentives.
It is nice to hear that our major real estate markets may be sustainable or enjoy modest increases, but not when it comes at the unnecessary expense of shattered communities and human suffering.
FreakAlert
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Jan: BOYCOTT OF ONTARIO CARS HURT
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The government of Ontario & Union Reps of the Auto Workers are telling everyone how to vote to get a senate seat.
70% of Canada votes for different parties and they are all car buys that will not support those who call them names.
The Auto Workers Unions need to get out of politics and back in the car business.
Richard
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NO ELECTION
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The election law says in 18 months we go to an election, until then the parties need to work together.
Un-certainty always hurts the economy so no election please.
Bill
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If the price of oil remains high, the Canadian dollar may remain high too, because we export oil. A high dollar -- along with a USA recession -- will hurt Canadian manufacturing. This will result in a slower Canadian economy, which will put downward pressure on interest rates.
But while manufacturing-dependent communities suffer, those who have prospered from our resource boom will continue to buy real-estate, especially as interest rates decline. Where will they buy? One area likely to remain popular is coastal BC, which enjoys a year-round mild climate.
Tamouh
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Twicethinker
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The collapse of the US real estate market is in large part due to an over-valuation of houses relative to the rate of inflation and rental prices ... ie. a bubble, which is sustained by expectations of rising prices and thus robust demand. This certainly exists in some Canadian markets, notably Calgary and Vancouver. But in all regional markets, any transmission of a US recession to the local economy will affect 1. real incomes and 2. expectations of future economic health. Both of these factors will depress housing demand, and will only partially be offset by lower interest rates (if indeed these are forthcoming).
Only a blind optimist, or more likely, someone engaged in boosterism, would suggest that a stuttering US economy would increase housing prices here!
Mike, Toronto
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Happy
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Kinda funny, don't you think, that businesses who have their employees as shareholders/owners never have to worry - think about it and, oh, how many of those companies with employee owners have unions.
Time to change folks, forget about the sick beast to the south of us and look at the rest of the world - what do the markets need and how can we supply - probably not manufacturing but there are other needs. What about the severe shortages of workers in the west? Have you got the guts to manufacture what the west needs or, better still, the will to move to where the real action is.
Kevin
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