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Date: Thu. Jan. 17 2008 7:35 PM ET
One day after he was quoted saying NATO troops aren't effectively fighting the Taliban in southern Afghanistan, U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates praised the nations doing battle against insurgents in the country.
He downplayed a Wednesday article in the L.A. Times that quoted him directly as saying, "I'm worried we have some military forces that don't know how to do counterinsurgency operations ... Most of the European forces, NATO forces, are not trained in counterinsurgency."
He appeared to back-pedal from that position on Thursday.
"This does not reflect reality or I believe the views of our governments," Gates said during a news conference.
"As I said before the House Armed Services Committee last month, allied forces from the United Kingdom, Canada, the Netherlands, Australia, Denmark and other nations have stepped up to the plate and are playing a significant and powerful role in Afghanistan."
He said NATO soldiers have pushed the Taliban from strongholds in the south, fighting in grueling conditions and taking casualties. As a result the Taliban "no longer holds real estate of any consequence," he said.
Gates didn't suggest he was misquoted in the article, but said he was speaking about challenges faced by NATO as a whole -- and not specific nations.
He said NATO as an institution still has shortcomings and needs to adapt to current fighting strategies, something the U.S. has also dealt with.
"We have to acknowledge the reality that the alliance as a whole has not trained for counter-insurgency operations even though individual countries have considerable expertise at and success in this arena," Gates said.
Gates mentioned Canada several times, saying he telephoned Defence Minister Peter MacKay on Wednesday to clarify his comments and express his respect and appreciation for Canada's sacrifice.
Canadian Reaction
Prime Minister Stephen Harper downplayed the remarks on Thursday. Speaking in Prince Albert, Sask., he insisted that U.S. officials support the work Canada is doing in Afghanistan and both military and non-military officials have always expressed appreciation and confidence for the Canadian Forces.
MacKay also downplayed the reports about Gates' comments, pleading on Wednesday for cooler heads to prevail and insisting that in two recent conversations with Gates, the U.S. defence secretary "lauded Canadian forces" and their efforts in the region.
But NDP leader Jack Layton said Thursday the controversy may be the last straw that tips Canadian opinion away from supporting the Afghan mission beyond its current mandate.
"I think Canadians, just as they rose up and spoke around the war in Iraq -- ultimately provoking Mr. Chretien to do the right thing at the last moment on the eve of the invasion -- the Canadian people need to speak out now," Layton said.
"We can change the direction of Canadian foreign policy."
Scott Taylor, editor of Esprit de Corps magazine, told CTV's Canada AM on Thursday morning that Gates needed to make a public apology.
"I think it deserves more than just a phone call between him and Peter MacKay. If you've made a public condemnation of NATO troops, then Mr. Gates needs to come out and make a public apology to the Canadian forces and to other allies of NATO," Taylor said Thursday.
He suggested the U.S. is in no position to be criticizing Canada's commitment to Afghanistan, considering the Canadian Forces have stepped in to take a leading role in the mission when the U.S. shifted its focus to Iraq, leaving few resources in Afghanistan.
"The Americans have let this thing sit and stew and have left a very minimal amount of troops on the ground in Kandahar from 2002 to 2005. the Taliban regrouped and then they handed this thing off to NATO knowing that it was a mess," Taylor said.
Quick Facts
Secretary Gates joined the Central Intelligence Agency in 1966 and spent nearly 27 years as an intelligence professional, serving six presidents. During that period, he spent nearly nine years at the National Security Council, The White House, serving four presidents of both political parties.
--whitehouse.gov
"Now they're saying it's our fault for letting this thing degenerate and we don't know what we're doing. As opposed to what? The Americans in Iraq?"
We're 'pulling our weight': U.S. ambassador
The top American diplomat in Canada denied that the U.S. had reduced its military commitment in Afghanistan. U.S. Ambassador to Canada David Wilkins said the U.S. has 30,000 troops in the country and another 3,200 will arrive in the spring.
"We're certainly pulling our weight, as is Canada, as is Britain, and several of the NATO allies," Wilkins told CTV Newsnet's Mike Duffy Live.
A former Canadian military commander in Kabul said it may be premature to predict long term troop commitments by the Americans. Retired Col. Mike Chapstick noted that in 2005 and 2006, the Americans were considering reducing their troop numbers.
"There are 3,200 committed for seven months, and I think we should take that as it is," Chapstick said.
NATO allies on Wednesday reacted with surprise and disbelief to Gates' comments. The Dutch Defence Ministry summoned the U.S. ambassador for an explanation.
In Ottawa, Liberal defence critic Denis Coderre demanded the Tory government either call in the U.S. ambassador to Canada or seek a clarification from Gates.
Coderre said at the very least, the comments smack of insensitivity in light of the death of a Canadian soldier north of Kandahar on Wednesday.
Patchwork of NATO duties in Afghanistan
CTV Washington Bureau Chief Tom Clark told Mike Duffy Live that the American officials are saying behind the scenes they are frustrated that there is a patchwork among the allied nations about how they are carrying out their duties in Afghanistan. Clark said that, for example, the Dutch are far less aggressive in their approach than the Canadians. He pointed out that some European allies are hamstrung about what they can do militarily by legislation at home.
"You can call this a classic Washington gaffe. (Gates) spoke the truth by mistake," Clark said.
He said the Americans are highlighting apparent successes in the eastern part of Afghanistan where U.S. troops are present.
Chapstick noted, however, that the American attempt to distinguish successes and shortcomings of various military forces in different parts of Afghanistan is a mistake.
"I think the biggest mistake (Gates) made was making an unfavourable comparison between the NATO troops in southern Afghanistan and the American troops in Eastern Afghanistan," said Chapstick.
"In the first place, both of those sets of troops operate to an American commander (in Kabul) ... and it's his headquarters' responsibility to try to get these troops marching on the same line and the same direction."
Chapstick also noted that British and Canadian troops do not have the legal limitations placed on some European countries and do.
"They are out of the camp. They're on patrol all the time. We had another seven wounded this morning outside the wire," he said.
Chapstick said the controversy should point to the need for a greater and more coordinated plan for Afghanistan.
Gates' reported comments came to light the day after Washington authorized the deployment this spring of more marines to Afghanistan after failing to convince European countries to provide reinforcements. Most of the U.S. troops will be deployed to the south to strengthen NATO forces there ahead of an expected increase of Taliban and insurgent activity with the spring thaw.
A U.S. military analyst says Gates was likely showing his frustration about an overstretched American military fighting on two fronts -- in Afghanistan and Iraq. Bruce Riedel, who has been a presidential adviser and CIA officer, said Gates may be uneasy about the fact that he does not have the resources to fight insurgencies in the two countries effectively.
"Gates's comments to some extent reflect his frustration that he doesn't have a very good solution to this problem," Riedel said.
But Riedel said that his comments may have made the situation even worse.
"He made it harder for our NATO allies to explain to their constituencies what's going on," Riedel said.
"Criticizing the allies for allegedly underperforming in Afghanistan is not likely to encourage better performance."
Seventy-seven Canadian soldiers and a Canadian diplomat have died in Afghanistan since 2002.
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.


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Jim
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Kudos to Mr MacKay for keeping his cool here.
norm
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J-F (Ottawa)
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People's first opinions are usually the honest ones, I don't buy his rebuttal.
Thomas in Halifax
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Ed Landser
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Michele
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if Gates actually believed that then he would have not said it to begin with.
DCR - Toronto
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FreakAlert
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Lorne
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The damage is done.
Nato troops, with the exception of the U.S troops, now have a complete understanding of what the U.S thinks of them. They are just a pawn in the U.S war agression.
Canada should began the pullout of it's troops immediately and have this completed by the date that was we were committed to the pullout.
Kurt
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Let them blab all the want.
steve I. C.
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I do appreciate the Americans who are on our side and have stated that this is not the American people speaking but the ignorant politicians. And its to bad are government submits to this kind of treatment, it shows we have no back bone and we are willing to let the Americans walk all over us and encourages more of this kind of abuse.
More and more Canadians are sick of this unneighborly treatment by the US and if you are a Canadian that has no problem rolling over for the Americans than we are sick of you to. Where's the Canadian Pride.
Vince
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Not a big deal, and the people reacting to it, are actually reacting to the 30 second sound bite. I personnaly never allow reports to summarize anything to me, and I don't form opinions from the sound bite news.
David from NS
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Iami Iamme
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It’s a War...and people try to kill each other by any means possible. It seems too convenient, that when the causalities are ours “NATO” that we immediately want to re-write the Geneva Convention in order to black list IEDs.
George W. Bush recently said; “Iran is a security risk”….I beg to differ however….I rather think, that through the most recent wars, waged by the USA and or NATO we are in fact the culprits of creation in the “security risk” on ourselves.
Support the TROOPS bring em home!
Bert Couture
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Lets get the troops out and leave NATO! What a waste of lives and money. Let the yanks handle their own problems. They are in Irag for the oil and guest what is in the north of Afghanistan eh! OIL
Colin
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RB
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"International Security Assistance Force"
Canada is there as part of a Nato force to assist the people of Afghanistan....and by the way are doing a hell of job!
Scott Hobbs
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Blaise
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Let's be mature. We know what Canadian and other troops are doing. We know that France and Germany are keeping their soldiers in safe areas of Afghanistan. Gates said nothing about them that Canadians haven't said themselves.
Peter
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Cheryl
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Michele
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freedom lover
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Peter MacKay, incapable of courage, refuses to criticize anyone he fears ranks above him.
By his refusal to support the troops, he is a disgrace to Canada.
Soldier
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tom
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larry
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Mr. Gates has now clarified 'what he meant' and so this non-story should hopefully die. Spats among allies happens sometimes and perhaps some good will come of it. For instance I suspect NATO could use more counter insurgency training and this may make it take place. As well, Mr. Gates has had his fingers burned here and so he will likely be more sensitive about what he says in the future.
Ken Warren
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Recently Retired Soldier
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It was good to see the American Secretary of Defence set the record straight.
As for an apology, we don't need one, we know how good we are!
Once a Patricia always a Patricia. IIVP
dk
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Frank
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Sean Calder
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This is WHY they were unable to convince European countries to provide reinforcements. Because they knew that if they stalled long enough, the US would send in more and they wouldn't have to. And I find that disgusting in the First Order.
Jay
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John
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If the US was not happy with our performance, why is it that they constantly have been letting us (the Canadian Forces) get equipment we require, ahead of their own military...for example the M777 155 howitzers, the C-117 Globemaster, etc?
nate
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freedom lover
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Imre Torma
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Let's stop being a PARTY to this OIL/POWER insanity game of the BUSH regime!!
Brad B
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For those that wanted an apology, accept this, even though it's a clarification, not an apology. Don't use this as an excuse to dis the US or their Forces.
mike
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JD
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This conflict is like no other we have faced in the past. The enemy we are fighting now, has no remorse they do not care who's life they take let it be a NATO soldier or an innocent citizen of Afghanistan, as long as lives are taken it's mission accomplished for them. We are not fighting a traditional army, these terrorists do not wear a uniform, they blend in with the general population, walk amongst the citizens of Afghanistan. So NATO's job is a very difficult one.
Michalina
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lisa
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Jerry
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Hercule
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kathy
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It takes all my strengh to keep supporting all cause of humanitary support when critics are ruled buy ploiticians and money makers. I believe the majority off the world just want to live a life of acceptancie on who they are.
Josh
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Shoe
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His REAL thoughts emerged in his comments yesterday.
Canuck in Seattle
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To compare that travesty to the situation in Afghanistan is complete ignorance. I think the Bush government is the worst in US history. However I think Harper is doing a very good job all in all. Equating Bush to Harper is as stupid and mistaken as comparing Iraq to Afganhistan.
Mike Webster
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John
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"Canada's troops are still untrained, underfunded, obsolete equipment to do a man's job in Afghanistan"
Right now Canadian soldiers are the most highly trained in the world for this mission. Members of the US military as well as other nations come to Canada to observe how we train for Afghanistan. In addition, we are the best equipped soldiers of all the NATO forces, including the US, in Afghanistan. I am referring to the soldiers, not the lack of helicopters. Two different issues.
Paul
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Nick J Boragina
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Paul Hansen
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Mr. Gates claims he was taken out of context, none of us were there do we know?
To all the fervent American haters and their ilk, same old same old.
Duane Ransome
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Jessica
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As for Harper's and MacKay's responses, Bush will be out of office soon, enough with lap dog act already!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS AND BRING 'EM HOME
Looking
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ScottS
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Dan Ire
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Our Canadian troops and all the troops are very brave men and women. And I do agree, that it must be very difficult to fight the taliban.
Why doesn't the UN make a deal with them. Get rid of the poppies and grow hemp crops instead. There are hundreds of uses for this product. That way they can keep their land and live in peace and still make a living. And we can bring the troops home.
There ia always a better road to follow ,than war.
These people do need the worlds help. Just start doing it a different way...
Exiled Canadian
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Grow up people. It was a misinterpreted comment and it was probably put by the L.A. Times in context where it would be misinterpreted since we all know how "supportive" they are of the Bush administration.
This required nothing more than MacKay calling and asking if he really said that. Done deal. Cooler heads prevailed. The Liberals tried to run it into a big scandal. Business as usual....
Move on.
Lance
said
Bring our kids home and send our politicians instead,...and watch how fast it all ends,...
Colin
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Golf Compnay Grunt
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I would like to see him do better. At least our country is not sending home 5000 soldiers in bodies bags...>>>
Neither are the Americans. Get your figures straight before you go aimlessly blabbing away. It is 3,926 as of the 16th of January, 2008.
I can tell you first hand that the regretful comments made by Secretary Gates does not reflect the opinions of the U.S. military. They have nothing but the highest praise for Canadian military personnel, and rightfully so.
"Pro Patria"
vince collins
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Stephanie Pickering
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DavidL
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Ralph
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Mike Macdonald
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Ian Pro-military
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The U.S. knows and appreciates Canada and the media will spin a stupid comment quick as light. The point that is true is that the Liberal Government cut the Canadian Military and caused a lot of experienced people to go elsewhere. The comment was aimed (rightly so) to places like France who again has shown its cowardous nature. The comment was poorly presented but the message was not.
Wayne
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W..Kirkwood
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TP
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Hugh
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Ron - Dartmouth
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Mike Pottre
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Kevin L
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Michael Dorosh
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Nick
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First of all, the mistake is lost in translation that Mr. Gates was never attacking Canada's contribution, nor the UK's or the Dutch's. He was targeting the very known fact that NATO does not train properly in counter insurgency and nothing makes this more clear than A) the types of exercises held B) the commitment of resources to it.
Instead of using cooler heads, most people are crying foul based off of emotion and an improper understanding.
An apology is not necessary but clarification has clearly shown how most people have overreacted.
Finally, Charlie Wilson's War is not an acceptable resource for a quick history lesson.
Victoria
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Alexandra
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There is no need to critize Nato. My fiance works with the ISAF therefore for Nato.
So an Appology would be the right thing to do.
Gerry
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By the way...our guys (Canadians) are doing a fantastic job!!!!
Coderre to the rescue!!
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Lart from Above
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The NATO force is acting under a collective treaty obligation to defend one of its members, the United States, from attack. This action complies with article 51 of the United Nations charter and was also specifically sanctioned by UN resolution 1386. Point being that Canada is in Afghanistan to help defend the United States from its enemies. Someone needs to remind the Americans who their real friends are, and their real enemies, because they don't seem to be able to figure this out.
BJ
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Canadian troops are some of the best trained and most disciplined troops in the NATO organization, if not the world. As for equipment, the hardware being used by the Canadian forces in Afghanistan is, in most cases, the envy of the other NATO partners! You do a disservice to our troops and their sacrifices by being ill-informed on the facts of this conflict.
Trudy
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mitch
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J-F (Ottawa)
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How bout we ask the soldiers who are actually fighting at this very moment what they think...Those are the only opinions that should matter.
If they aren't bothered by it, then we should let it be, if they ARE offended, then we should take offense to the comments made and should expect an apology. THEY are the ones fighting for our freedom, their opinions are the only ones that matter.
Gary Ferringer
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The comments made by Mr. Gates were not directed towards any country, but NATO as an organization. The younger people that were not around during the Cold War have to understand that NATO was created to fight off the huge Soviet Army in the event that they decided to take over Western Europe. Fighting terrorists is a completely different mission that I am not sure NATO is prepared to deal with yet. I believe that is what Mr. Gates was refering to. Our country obviously also needs to "Get with the Program" in this area as well, but we are learning as are all the NATO countries.
Ian
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Linda
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It's too bad so many people are overreacting to the nonsense, or using it to futher their anti American predjudices for political reasons.
This is a NATO mission. NOT an American mission. They are still contributing more than anyone else, in case some have not noticed.
I'm no fan of Mr. Bush or Mr. Harper. But if we are going to agrue, the least we could do is be honest with the facts and not take our lead from people like Stephane Dion or "Taliban Jack".
Colin
said
If someone is shooting at you and trying to kill you, while concurrently burning schools and blowing up things that shouldn't be blown up, what exact peace would we be keeping and if it isn't peacekeeping, then tell me how we're supposed to make peace without taking out the bad guy that's trying to kill us?
Or should we just sit there and do nothing? No offence, but that's exactly what the international community did in Rwanda. Canadians seem to want us to intervene in the world and make a difference but don't seem to want to step up to the plate and do what it takes to do that. Rather myopic if you ask me.
Allan Eizinas
said
This USA political bozo just has no idea when to shut up.
Our mandate is to “win the hearts and minds of the Afghanistan people.” The American mandate is to win this war at any cost. Obviously, our tactics are different.
Over 4,000 Afghanistan civilians have been killed so far as “collateral action”. This mission is unraveling.
I would take a Canadian soldier over any American soldier.
So be it.
tinfoilhat
said
I'd like to point out the US success in Iraq but I ummm maybe later.
Troy
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