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Date: Fri. Jan. 11 2008 10:56 PM ET
The economy dominated a working dinner between the premiers and the Prime Minister at his Ottawa residence Friday night.
The premiers emerged from the meeting saying it offered them a good opportunity to discuss their concerns with Stephen Harper. But they noted that there were no concrete developments or announcements coming out of the three-and-a-half-hour meeting.
Alberta Premier Ed Stelmach said topics included:
- lower business taxes;
- research and development investment;
- and labour shortages.
The premiers were hoping to push Harper to give them more funding following his announcement Thursday of a $1-billion aid package for communities and workers hurt in export-reliant industries. Some sectors of the economy are struggling because of high gas prices, a strong loonie, and a slowing U.S. economy.
They didn't get any additional funds, and that disappointed Ontario's Dalton McGuinty.
"I hoped we had a strong, committed and willing partner in the federal government. I did not find that partner here today," he said after the meeting.
"I'm happy to get the $350 million and we'll use that as best we can, but ... there are going to be certain sectors of the economy, the manufacturing economy particularly, and forestry, which will remain challenged for an extended period of time. So, I'm looking for a long-term partner for those folks, and I didn't get that."
New Brunswick Premier Shawn Graham, who chairs a council representing the provinces, said it was a "productive dialogue." He said the tone of the meeting was cordial.
Friday's dinner was the second such meeting between the premiers and the Prime Minister. Harper has not held a formal first minister's summit since becoming Prime Minister.
The premiers say they would prefer more common meetings.
"I'm not worried about the type of form. I'm worried about the type of meetings where we can discuss constructively how we can be more effective for the Canadian public," said Manitoba's Gary Doer.
B.C.'s Gordon Campbell said the meeting provided a good starting point for future discussions.
Harper said he was pleased with the outcome of Friday's dinner.
"We want to see our vast country move forward productively, with all its regions as full participants," Harper said in a press release.
"It is essential that Canada's governments work together, in a spirit of open federalism, to ensure the right conditions for Canada's economic success."
While gathering before the meeting, the premiers collectively said the informal meeting wouldn't be enough.
Friday afternoon, the premiers held a 90-minute strategy session to discuss how to keep the focus on economic issues. Many believed that the prime minister was hoping to turn the conversation toward senate reform.
But after the meeting, premiers said the discussion over that issue lasted no more than five minutes.
Earlier, critics of Harper's aid package said it was nothing more than an election platform. If opposition parties vote down the budget, the government would fall and an election would be called.
Finance Minister Jim Flaherty said that the timing behind the package would not change.
"We are a democracy ... this is not a dictatorship. We must have parliamentary approval to spend money," Flaherty said. "It's a money item and we do money items in budget bills."
Bloc Quebecois Leader Gilles Duceppe said Friday that the House of Commons should be immediately recalled to deal with the new budget proposal.
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.


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Stephen B
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McGuinty stop spending my money!!!!!!!!!!!
puddin and pie
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Lina
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Ralph
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What, the usual 2nd & 3rd helpings?
Bruce
said
Please stop racking up a debt that will eventually cripple the province of Ontario!
Frank @ Toronto
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But, federal government, specifically Harper has refused to help to fix the problem that has been facing in Ontario, which our economy sector is mainly focused on the manfacturing sectors and especially to Toronto's economy! I will not vote for Harper and his new government!!!
J-F (Ottawa)
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31 Delta
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PBW
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Frank @ Toronto should also remember his history: the West was discouraged from developing manufacturing industies by the Crow Rate of rail transportation fees that was vociferopusly supported by Easterners. That rate gave low rates for shipping raw materials out of the prairies and low rates for manufactured goods going to the prairies. That rate was a counter incentive for the rest of the country diversifying, all to the benefit of Ontario.
If that province is now the victim of an undiversified economy, it should blame its leaders of the past!
Stephen B
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We have not had a balance budget in Ontario since Mike Harris.
Frank @ Toronto’s statement that McGuinty has been working hard at reducing the deficit is incorrect.
Fool
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Cudjoe Peters
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Scott Hobbs
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Doug
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As a westerner,I can only thank the voters of Ontario for electing Dalton McGuinty.Had you not done that,I'm afraid we would have seen him in the federal parliament.He's yours,and you're welcome to him.
Sadly,with such a diverse country,the reality is also greatly emphasized regional differences.And,with all the premiers out to represent their own jurisdictions,there will be no concensus.It will end,as always,as a "dog eat dog" fight about how to divide up the resources of Canada.
Even Trudeau once asked "who speaks for Canada"? Without some serious reform about HOW we govern our country,I expect the answer will always be "nobody".And that will not change simply by sending another party to sit in Parliament and do the same things,in the same way we always have.Doing that guarantees we will always have a regionally divided Canada,with citizens in the east constantly whining about citizens in the west.And vice-versa.
Ralph
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larry
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At least Harper is meeting with the Premiers to discuss the issues, so lets see what they come up with before being negative. Frankly though, I can't imagine what Harper can do to change the reality of this global economy, at this point in time.
Patricia
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Gary
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Jack M.
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Paul
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Canada is next!
bruno
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In terms of Ontario's economy, according to Statsca, only about`15%
of its jobs are in manufacturing. Ontario's economy is highly diversified. All one need do is look at Toronto and see how many people are employed there. How many work in factories? Not to many, most work in the service sector and the knowledge economy. Those people who are working in manufacturing and losing their jobs do need help. In terms of helping the auto sector, many jurisdictions around the world do offer support in order to keep or lure plants. This creates an unlevel playing field, so to level it, we should offer support as well.
DCR
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you have been living in that socialistic land way too long over there in Ontario. It IS NOT the government's resposibility to bail out companies. I am on my 4th career out here in the west!!! We never got a dime like poor poor Ontario. Absolutley absurd to think that it is the governments responsibility to bail out companys that are destined to go down anyways. You socialists think that the government is there to save you but you are so so wrong. Stand up and do what you have to do to make things work. We have done it out here..your turn! It makes me so angry at the thought of my tax dollars going to Ontario to train people. Train yourself..I did!
Tim T
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Common, public knowledge.
McGuinty, has balanced the budget.
Holy smokes these people are allowed to vote???
Tim T
said
Lots of industries get a helping hand from the government. Take, er, the oil industry for instance...
should we cut that off as of now?
hollinm
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Justin - BOYCOTT ONTARIO CARS
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In the last several elections the Liberals name call everyone and so does the Liberal Union leader in Ontario.
They should not be surprised we are not interested in doing business with them.
Tyrone - By Foreign
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The Ontario Premier is also trying to get his brother int the Dederal Governement re-elected.
The meeting at 24 Sussesx Drive is good so their is less grand standing by the failing leader of Ontario.
Canada economy is super but nobody will buy Onatrio car, and thats the Premiers fault not the Prime Ministers fault.
Think I will go test drive a car built by a non Liberal province. I have been insulted enough by the Liberals for wanting my kids to go to a safe school and have my son to date the opposite sex,
Greg
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Todd Hagar
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All sounds good for sound bites and headlines but think about what the money is really all about? The loss of jobs, plants, homes, cars, money, families and lives.
What's a billion dollars going to do? Not one damn thing till the problem is faced. Free Trade no matter how great it is for the investor is a curse for anyone in manufacturing today. The tariff word or auto pact or legislated control of content volumes just seems to make the rich cry foul but it's the only way. If an imported TV set from China is $499 and the US or Canadian made one is $1500 - which one is anyone going to buy?
Now if you create your smoke screens - like that in the food indusry - process the food in foreign countries and then falsely represent your products as so called Canadian Made because you ship it in a Canadian box - must be outlawed.
So will the billion dollar man get his budget past? Not a hope in hell? But hey - we just sat on our fingers for 2 years of hell so who knows? These are times like no other.
FreakAlert
said
So, back to politics, throw this back in Harper's face. Either way, money will in the coming months be going to communities and sectors all over Canada.
Finally, money is issued through debt and we all pay for it
Marty
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Dale Scarrow
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Robert C
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Caesar
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Jeanne
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McGuinty had to tax all of us, to the tune of, I believe it was $900.00, each, in order to get his books in order, after the "Harris debacle". Harris left Ontario in a ton of debt, but McGuinty cleaned it up.
I totally agree with Catherine who said:
Mr. Harper is a narrow minded zealot who can only view life through the eyes of the rich and wealthy. In the States, there appears to be fresh winds blowing which will oust the neo con Bush whom Harper absolutely worships. The winds of change will blow to Canada too and re-establish the fairness and compassion that Canadians feel for all our citizens. I just cannot decipher what has produced such mean and cruel people of the neo con faith, and Harper is currently leading the pack.
Downey
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Ray Olson
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Stop whining and spending McGuinty!!!!!!
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Jim McB
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I have to chuckle at the media headline - imagine federal government spending being linked to a budget; how strange can it get.