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Date: Thu. Dec. 20 2007 10:24 PM ET

The Ipperwash Provincial Park where native protester Dudley George was shot and killed in 1995 will be returned to the Chippewas of Kettle and Stony Point First Nation, the Ontario government announced today.

"I think he would be pleased. He paid the ultimate price and is not here to enjoy," George's brother, Sam, said Thursday.

George was killed during a police raid to remove protesters from the park on Sept. 6, 1995.

The protesters had wanted the federal government to return nearby Camp Ipperwash, formerly the Stony Point reserve, to Kettle and Stony Point descendants.

At the time, the protesters also claimed that the Ipperwash Provincial Park, owned by the provincial government, was the site of a sacred burial ground.

Justice Sydney Linden, the commissioner of the Ipperwash Inquiry which probed the death of George, said in his May 2007 report that the most urgent priority was that both the federal and provincial lands be returned.

Sam George welcomed the announcement Thursday.

"By returning these 109 acres, by keeping a treaty promise, and by honouring the memory of my brother Dudley, we are respecting each other," he told reporters. "It shows that we can be friends. For these things, I and my family would like to again thank the people of Ontario."

Aboriginal Affairs Minister Michael Bryant said Thursday the move showed how determined the McGuinty government is to move forward with the recommendations.

"Returning Ipperwash Park and acting on Justice Linden's recommendations is the clearest and most powerful expression of the intention of the McGuinty government to move forward in a concrete, practical and deliberate way to forge a stronger, more positive relationship with all Aboriginal peoples in Ontario," he said.

He also warned the government against letting tensions escalate to that level again, possibly making a veiled reference to the heated stand off in Caledonia.

"That where there is conflict and violence and death, it does not in fact provide for a more expeditious result. In fact, it leads to complete entrenchment and tragedy," he said. "Bitterness on both sides you have to see to believe."

Mark Simpson, a counsellor in nearby Lambton Shores, said the transfer set a dangerous precedent.

"I've talked to a lot of people in my community and they're livid. They're absolutely livid with what's happening -- that they've been excluded from the process," Simpson said Thursday.

Julian Falconer, legal counsel for Aboriginal Legal Services, said the decision was an important one.

"The Minister of Aboriginal Affairs deserves a lot of credit for bringing this to what is an important first step in healing," he told CTV Newsnet Thursday afternoon. "Today is a great day."

George's death left an important legacy for the Aboriginal community, he said.

"The First Nations are proud of the community member who gave his life to ensure the return of lands," said Falconer, who was involved in the Ipperwash inquiry.

Easing the transition

He said while the news is cause to celebrate, preparations also have to be made to help ease the transition of the land transfer.

"There would be no way to simply, like a car, turn over the keys, so there's land management issues here," he said.

"It is important to understand that there are issues amongst the communities on how to manage the land. The fact of the matter is that the Kettle and Stoney Point Band has accountability issues with its people as well, in particular Stoney Pointers who have also laid interest in the lands."

Natural Resources Minister Donna Cansfield said the province plans to work with local communities during the transfer phase.

"As the first step in the process to transfer Ipperwash Provincial Park from the province to the Chippewas of Kettle and Stony Point First Nation, both parties will work together with the local communities to develop an interim co-management plan," she said.

"Through these discussions we will determine how the park lands will be used and managed until the transfer is completed."

Falconer said there are other recommendations in the Ipperwash report that should be followed immediately, namely a personal and public apology by the commissioner of the OPP to Cecil Bernard George who was also beaten.

Justice Linden said he'd like to see the federal government get more involved.

"I mean the people on the ground don't care if it's federal or provincial, they just want to see it work," he said. "Somehow, the federal and provincial governments have to get together to solve this problem."

Land history

Various sections of the Kettle and Stony Point lands were sold in the 1920s and 1930s. In 1928, the Stony Point Reserve surrendered its entire beachfront for sale to private interests.

In 1932, the Province of Ontario bought a portion of the beach front and established Ipperwash Provincial Park.

In 1937, park authorities were notified by the native chief and council that a sacred burial ground existed on the land. They asked officials to protect the site but no evidence suggests that they did.

During the Second World War, the Department of National Defence (DND) wanted to use the remaining 2,211 acres of the Stony Point Reserve as a military training camp.

In 1942, a government representative asked the natives to surrender the land voluntarily but they refused. Using the War Measures Act, the DND took over the land and named it Camp Ipperwash. They paid $15 per acre for the land and never returned it.

Stony Point descendants had occupied and protested at Camp Ipperwash since 1993 but stalled negotiations prompted the move into the government park on Sept. 4, 1995, two days before the shooting of George.

He was the first native in modern Canadian history to be killed in a government conflict over land.

In 1998, an agreement-in-principle was finally reached between the federal government and the Kettle and Stony Point peoples to return Camp Ipperwash to the natives.

Despite the agreement, since it was used for military purposes, the land is currently being investigated for unexploded ordnance (UXO) and environmental contamination. As a result, a final settlement has not yet been reached to return the land.

Linden's report recommends that the federal government "return the former army camp to the Kettle and Stony Point First Nation immediately with an apology and appropriate compensation."

With a report from CTV's Lisa LaFlamme and CTV Toronto's Paul Bliss

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Steve
said

Why couldn't this common sense, stepping stone, cooperative decision be reached prior to Dudley George being killed.

I'm in total agreement with the recommendation...name the park after Dudley. If not the entire park at least partially.






Fiona
said

My husband is from Six Nations, and he most definitely pays taxes. Six Nations people were given the Haldimand Tract land as a thank you for defending the British Crown against the Americans. They never surrendered, there wasn't any war....and the Stony and Kettle Point bands didn't lose in any war either. Each land claim is separate, complex and is very difficult to process. At least some progress is being made, and I'm just thankful that someone like Dudley was willing to stand up for the land. I stood with Six Nations to defend their land, and I would again. Nations couldn't even bring land claims to court until recently because they weren't able to even hire lawyers. Hitler studied what Canada was doing to the Native people here, he wrote about it in Mein Kampf. Does that not tell everyone what wrong was done and is still being done to Aboriginal people in Canada? Racism is a weapon of mass destruction for everyone.

Ken Leland
said

Sixty years past due.


Bill Stewart
said

It's about time!
Many Canadians are probably wondering when the governments will return all the surrounding land that rightfully belongs to the 1st Nations. If evidence (of the claims) are present, let's get the cases over & done with -- return what was taken!


BOB
said

If this was their land, it should be returned to these people. I believe this First Nations Band also had land taken during WW2. Has this land been returned (I mean it's only been 75 years) If not, they should get that land returned as well.


barry
said

It's about time there's some justice in this land. I think Steven Harper can learn something from this, but he probably won't. ... How many more hundred years before the rest of the natives get some justice or at least fair treatment.


Gwen
said

Will we ever learn and will the Natives be compensated for all our government has put them through. People perceive that Ipperwash was owned by the Natives and that they let it run down and live in shambles. It is called pride of ownership. With all this talk of going Green maybe we should have the Natives teach us about being Green and getting back to nature and being considerate of each other.


Kris
said

McGuinty is demonstrating real leadership here.

What a nice change in native/non-native relations.

Federal government: Take note.


Keith
said

Very past due. Should never have been taken from them to begin with. Sacred ground!

Regardless this is a great victory for the Canadian First Nations Movement.

Oh, BTW, I'm white!


Harvey
said

HOORAY! Its about time. Way to go McGuinty.


steve I. C.
said

Hopefully all Canadians will understand the importance of harmony with our 1st Nations people. We are all deserving of equality. No more racism with any culture please.


JM
said

Although I agree with the facts that Aboriginal Canadians have been mistreated for many years, I do not find that any of these land claim agreements will solve any of the problems that we have. Giving back the land that was "theirs" is almost an oxymoron in my opinion. The land belongs to Canadians, that means all Canadians. This self-imposed separation that is being created by both Natives and Non-Natives is almost as inexcusable as the land being taken away in the first place. Perhaps we should start looking at growing together as a nation with a proud heritage and mending the wounds of caused by previous generations rather than trying to settle things with separation and cash hand-outs. Thinking in terms of "reservations" and creating a separate society for the Natives is old world thinking. We should be forging a future together not trying to put each other on separate blocks of land in one nation.


RJT
said

It's a terrible shame that an innocent man had to die before our racist, corrupt government was legally held accountable. Former Ontario premier Harris, who unleashed his OPP dogs on unarmed protestors demanding their rights is a responsible for the death of George and this entire fiasco.


Lart from Above
said

Native land issues are sometimes complex. This one was relatively straightforward. Kudos to the Liberal government for resolving this long-standing issue.


J-F (Ottawa)
said

I agree it's about time this happened.

To Bill Stewart:

If we were to return what was taken (generally speaking) the entire country would be handed back to the 1st Nations. I agree with your comments though.

I am also of the opinion that the 1st Nations have been awfully abused and taken for granted and they should receive compensation and retrobution of some kind. However, in some cases, it's awful to see how these pieces of land and territories are being treated. I understand what goes on within the reserves is nobody's business but their own, but it is very sad to see the abuse, addiction problems, children out of school, lack of employment, deterioration of properties etc...It would be nice to see a much brighter and advanced future for the Natives, but I doubt the Feds would soon agree to help them along.


Dave Hayward
said

We, The Descendants...

We, the descendants of Canada’s Aboriginal, French and English founders,
and of all others who later arrived to help build this nation,
stand in unity as witness to this pledge.

Remembering that Canada’s provinces and territories have been settled
by peoples whose mother tongues, heritage and values differed,
we pledge to one another:

To recognize, to respect, and to celebrate Canada’s diversity,
lest a loss of identity suffers unto our descendants;

To embrace tolerance, equality, sharing and compassion
as the moral cornerstones of our great nation;

To bond together as one in the pursuit of dignity, health,
prosperity and happiness for all Canadians;

To forever preserve and promote this mission
that we so proudly share.


____________________
Reference: http://twenty-twenty.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?t=89


Sean
said

Disgusting.
The Indians lost the war hundreds of years ago.
The Government should not be handing them all the choice pieces of waterfront property to the detriment of the general population who would love the opportunity to enjoy that land as well.I know my views are not popular but Aboriginals would be far better off to join our multicultural society rather than continue to live outside of it.


BJ
said

It will never be a park again, so forget about "naming" it after anyone. Drive by the former cadet camp and see what a mess it has become since the occupation. They are hurting their own cause.


Anne
said

I disagree. And the best thing for the future of young native Canadians would be to abolish reserves and become normal contributing members of society.


Adrian
said

I think a settlement is good, and overdue. However, I wonder if today's agreeement will be considered good and just in 25 years? 50 years? 100 years?

At that time, will the people living with the settlement that is decided upon now, believe it was fair or unfair? Will they believe one group took advantage of another? Will a new settlement be negotiated then in order to fair-for-the-day? Is there such a thing as fair-forever?


Pam
said

Not only the land was taken in WWII. The houses were moved and severely damaged as well as belongings with no compensation for either. Men returning from war didn't know where their family had been moved to. A fine way to honour Canada's heroes who protected us against the enemy.

Thank you First Nations for your wonderful help in WWII.




Fred Bloggs
said

I hope nobody takes offence at me for bringing a little frivolity into what is obviously a serious matter, but a bumper sticker on a pick-up truck in Cornwall recently caught my eye and gave me a real chuckle....it simple read.
"Canada has far too many illegal immigrants....ask any Indian"


karyn
said

GREAT BEST NEWS TODAY MAY THERE BE PEACE POLICE WERE VERY WRONG


Kevin
said

I will never be shot by the OPP legally or illegally because I don't partake in unlawful occupations or barricades. Disputes should be settled in the courts. Just ask the people of Caledonia.






Kamil
said

This clearly solves the poverty, substance abuse and crime problems plaguing the aboriginals.


Doug
said

This is such a small claim,and in spite of the fact that I think it is the right thing to do,I also think it is more of a peace offering than any real move forward with land claims issues.
I do,however,reject the use of force as a legitimat way to resolve these disputes.
It's the obligation of all of those of us who are not part of the First Nations community to get our governments moving to resolve these issues.However,for First Nations people who use force,violence.or blockades as a means to an end,I suggest those efforts are counter productive.Rather than speed up the process,they in fact,harden peoples attitudes towards all First Nations communities.
There has to be a recognition that we are going to have to find mutual accomodation for all people in Canada.We don't have the technology to return to the 17th century.So,let's get busy and see how we can make better lives for the children and grand-children who will surely look back,and wonder about this period of our history.
Complex issues will require complex solutions.But only with good will can any dispute be resolved.
We must ALL,First Nations,and non First Nations,be more accomodating,and show more determination to find solutions without resorting to extremist posturing or violence.


Murray
said

Excellent dialogue about a challenge we all must face. My hope is that we will be able to live and work together as Canadians as equal brothers and sisters, instead of segregation and disharmony. The native culture and spiritual foundations have also been lost to many natives, we could all gain from Grandfathers insight right about now!


Mark G.
said

As far as I know,there was never any "Indian Wars" in Canada Sean.The natives here were for the most part our allies who helped with the fur trade and who help the British defeat the Americans.Chief Tecumseh or Joseph Brant comes to mind for example.And the natives were here for thousands of years before us JM. Our european ancestors did not arrive until just a few hundred years ago.There is more than enough land in Canada and these people deserve some of it. There are less than a million Natives and Metis in Canada altogether. They are not a threat to us and they are not going to take all the land.


Randy
said

Why does it seem like we always give the 1st Nations what they want? While I agree that any land taken from them in an agreement should be given back, I find their tactics (i.e. occupations and blockades) childish and stupid. Although you do not want to see people be hurt or killed, what did George think could happen if they parade around armed while antagonizing the OPP? I am sick of this whole inquiry and I cannot believe that it still gets press coverage.


Concerned UWO student
said

Absolute rubbish.

Natives already get far more than they deserve from hard working tax payers in this country.

This is yet another example of Liberal incompetence.

How long before they turn over the Caledonia sight? Perhaps the other 100 billion dollars in land that natives lay claim to.

Even if the billions of dollars of lands being claimed by natives did at one point belong to their ancestors... IT WAS THEIR ANCESTORS ... not them ... get over it already.


Abby U
said

Time will tell, but I suspect this will prove to be another McGuinty mistake. Canadian tax payers will once again pay dearly in the long run for these spineless appeasements.


Gordon
said

The federal government also promised after the war - that's WWII - to clean up all the unexploded ammunition on the property.

Well and governments wonder why the public distrusts them.

HA


Francois
said

Ugh...

They lost the land... that's too bad...

I say that they reserves should be removed completely... and that they should become normal Canadians like the rest of us, and pay taxes! This is simply ridiculous


Rob
said

Bravo! It's is not often we see integrity so vividly expressed from the highest levels of government. This is a victory for both sides.




Rob
said

I'm confused, didn't the Stony Point Reserve surrendered its entire beachfront for sale to private interests in 1928? Were not the natives paid for the land in 1942? In the end it's the Canadian taxpayer who pays again and again and again....



Mark G.
said

The British acknowledged and recognized the value of land and property rights.It was the British who signed treaties(contracts) with the native peoples, granting them certain lands. Ottawa took over these contracts and they are legal and binding, just like any other contract.When these lands were taken away illegally, the contract was broken.If the government took away any of your land would you just let it go. Would you not want your children to have it back or at least be compensated for it in some way?Land and property rights are the very foundation of civilization.


dana
said

This land is a SACRED BURIAL GROUND. how would you like us to take your "cemetaries" and build a park over them? as well, the aboriginal people of Canada are oppressed, and racism is rampant against them. when the playing field is level, then everyone can compete for the same thing, as it stands, the playing field is very favourable to everyone, except the aboriginals.


jerry
said

As I understand, the Ontario Government bought the land with taxpayers money. Now the government is giving the land away. Whem will we, the taxpayers be re-compensated for our money or is that too much to ask in this politically corect society


Greg from Kitchener
said

Welcome to Canada, One People, One Nation, One Flag.
Giev them back their land?
Well come to think about it, my great great great Grandfather sold his farm land to the government to build... I think he was ripped off, I want it back now....
They don't pay taxes, live of my and other Canadians money, disrespect the law, practically get away with murder, and we bend over backwards for them... great, lets start selling off Canada bit by bit!
All the liberal softies, you will be the death of Canada.


Mike
said

Ridiculous is the only word that comes to mind when I see this. I am so tired of the Aboriginals getting what they want, it's absolutely disgusting. Somebody in the Federal Government has to step in and say enough is enough. Get with the real world fellas. That means employment, tax paying, and following suit with the rest of Canada. Take a very good look at Caledonia. They have ruined peoples lives and businesses in the process of their "standoff". Parents are worried for the children to even go out and play on the frnot lawn let alone go to school.

RICKJ
said

When a person's belongings or property are stolen/taken from them, the law reconizes it still belongs to them, no matter how long ago it happened.

Sometimes, "the ends justifies the means".


Dan J
said

This was McGuinty being spineless and caving to minority special interest groups to try and make himself look good.

The fact being overlooked is the government PAID them for the land, even if it was a forced expropriation it happens all the time. Not to mention, most of these natives were not even alive at the time time, so they deserve nothing.


Josh from Vancouver
said

Randy: You dont know what you're talking about. The natives were unarmed and an inquiry already proved that Harris instructed the OPP to disband the protest violently. The native groups had already spent decades appealing to rule of law and making requests to regain land that is legally theirs, when governments steal land of indigeneous populations and political solutions dont work then these groups have the right to defend themselves and their property. We are not slaves to the government. We're talking about the government honoring their legally binding contracts.
What would you do Randy if the government confiscated your home, threw you and your family onto the streets and promised to return it but never did? Would you go away or would you fight for your rights and against he tyranny of that government? I think you would fight.


Thanking Aboriginals Across Canada
said

There appears to be a number of racist and ignorant comments posted to this article. First off Aboriginals joined with the British to defeat the Americans. If they hadn't I have no doubt our health care system would be the same as the American. Many more Canadians would have died in unecessary military actions. The Britis through Queen Victoria rewarded Aboriginals for their dedication towards the defeat of the invading Americans by way of granting large tracts of land. We do not pay Aboriginals, thye collect welfare just like other poor and downtrodden Canadians. In fact Aboriginals are the poorest group of people in Canada. We stole their children and placed them in hams way thinking we knew better how to raise their children than they did. Those children we abused emotionally, physically and sexually in the Catholic dominated schools. Once released they carried the scars of the abuse and many turned to alcohol and drugs to hind from their emotional scars. We caused the poverty, the drug abuse and many other problems faced by Aboriginals today. The land claim settlement is long past due and does not even scratch the surface of the debt owed by Canadians to the First Nations people. It is time to negotiate as one nation to another and stop ignoring the problems because they are not going to go away as some of the commenters on the site would like to suggest.


JFJ
said

The land didn't belong to George or any other Indian. It may have collectively belonged to a tribe at one time, in much the same way as Canada belongs collectively to Canadians now. George may or may not be a descendant of a member of the tribe, but so what? He's a Canadian isn't he?

It's time do do way with the apartheid that ensures one group of Canadians stay forever victims.

Liberals have been good at creating dependencies. Look at what they (and Red Tories) have done to make dependents out of Canadians living in Atlantic provinces.

What's the point of going to Afghanistan to establish democracy and equality of teh sexses there when McGuinty and his cronies encourage racism, corruption, nepotism and male domination in reserved parts of Ontario?

The quicker we start treating all Canadians as equals the better, and depart from this idiotic white liberal ideal of the noble Indian living off the land. It's a myth that belongs in the dustbin of history.



Mike B
said

I think the Provincial Clowns just opened a can of worms.
We are all going to pay for this lack of thought on the governments behalf.
I know lets just hand over the whole province.
Welcome to the Province of Ontario Indian Reserve.





Pat_Pending
said

Personally, I think it is only just and fair that the land which was STOLEN from the natives is being returned to them.

Paul
said

Give them everything they want and just request the Canadian government gets repaid ALL monies provided to First Nations groups/individuals since Confederation.


Kanatian
said

Nice to see such a great amount of support for the progressive moves of the Ontario government.


Kanatian
said

Greg from Kitchner and the other negative posters, I would like to refer you to a few documents for some recreational reading to assist you in your incorrect assertions: the Constituion Act, 1982, the Constitution Act, 1867, The Royal Proclamation, 1763, The Peace and Friendship Treaty of 1750, The Douglas Treaty on the West Coast, British Columbia Terms of Union, the numbered treaties in the prairies and The NRTA, 1930, the Dominion Lands Act 1870-1912, the Indian Act, 1886 - 1985, Ordinaces for Colonial Land grants 1830, the Manitoba Act, 1870, The Statute of Frauds, 1677, The Charter of Rights and Freedoms, 1982-specifically s. 25.

All of which are present in Canadian law in some form or another and make for great reading when one can not sleep.

Never stop learning.

Ever wonder why it is "our home and Native land" in the anthem? That was no accident.

And thanks to the editors for the butchery of good posts.

christine
said

I have never been so ashamed to be a Canadian as I am after reading some of these comments.
Some people really disgust me. Do some research, learn a thing or two before formulating an opinion. If you're still an intolerant, racist and selfish person after that, at least we'll all know that is just who you truly are and that it is not caused by a lack of knowledge.

I bet a lot of you would do well at the so-called "reasonable accomodation hearings" (aka: "Open Forum for Racist and Ignorant People") in Quebec.

M
said

Interestly, Dudley George's great grandparents, Albert and Sarah George, lived in a house that was located within the Park lands during the 1920's, prior to the surrender of the land to the Crown. Later, at least 18 of the witnesses at the Ipperwash Inquiry, who witnessed the OPP shooting, were great grandchildren and great-great grandchildren of Albert and Sarah George. This is not just a story of a "land claim," but a story of a family's history. Well done, Dalton McGuinty.

Vi
said

Name the park after Dudley, he deserves it. I was in the movie that they did about it, and it felt like it was the real thing.

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