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Date: Thu. Dec. 13 2007 11:12 PM ET

Former prime minister Brian Mulroney appeared before a Commons ethics committee today and admitted that it was a mistake to accept cash payments from Karlheinz Schreiber in exchange for his consulting services. However, he said none of his actions were illegal.

The ethics committee is probing why Mulroney accepted cash -- which Schreiber claims amounted to $300,000 -- shortly after leaving office in 1993.

Mulroney told the committee he was actually paid $225,000 in three payments of $75,000.

"My second biggest mistake in life, for which I have no one to blame but myself, is having accepted payments in cash from Karlheinz Schreiber for a mandate he gave me after I left office," Mulroney said in an opening statement.

"... my biggest mistake in life, by far, was ever agreeing to be introduced to Karlheinz Schreiber in the first place."

Schreiber has alleged that the pair agreed in principle to work together in June 1993 at Harrington Lake -- when Mulroney was still in office.

But Mulroney denied ever making a deal to work for Thyssen Industries or any other client of Schreiber while he was serving as prime minister.

He also denied ever receiving money for services relating to the purchase by Air Canada from Airbus of 34 aircraft in 1998.

Cash payments

Mulroney said the first payment he received from Schreiber was on Aug. 27, 1993 at a hotel in Mirabel, Que. -- after he left the prime minister's office. (However, he was still an MP at this time.)

He said Schreiber initially expressed annoyance at the meeting that the government, which Mulroney had headed, had not approved the Bear Head project. The project involved a plan by Thyssen Industries to construct a factory to build light-armoured vehicles in Canada.

"(He) told me he had planned to pursue legal damages to recover costs and damages, he left me with a copy of the lawsuit," said Mulroney.

"He then said that it would be very helpful to Thyssen to have a former prime minister assist in the international promotion of their peacekeeping vehicles and gave me a copy of merchandising documents regarding the vehicle."

Mulroney then said Schreiber wanted to retain him for international representation.

"When I indicated that this kind of global activity was something I thought I could usefully do -- provided that none of the activity would relate to domestic Canadian representation -- he produced a legal sized envelope and handed it to me," said Mulroney.

"At that point, Mr. Schreiber said this is the first retainer payment -- he told me there would be a total of three payments for three years."

Mulroney said he hesitated when he realized it was cash.

"When I hesitated, he said 'I'm an international businessman and I only deal in cash, this is the way I do business,'" said Mulroney.

"When I look back on it today I realize I made a serious error of judgment in receiving a payment in cash for this assignment even though it was decidedly not illegal to do so."

Mulroney said he only used the retainer for expenses while promoting Schreiber's interests internationally.

"After accepting the international payment on the retainer, and during the time two subsequent payments were made, I made trips to China, Russia, Europe and throughout the United States of America where I met with government and industry leaders and explored with them the prospects for this peacekeeping vehicle," said Mulroney.

Schreiber has testified that the cash was to help with the original plans to build the light-armoured vehicle plant in Canada.

Schreiber, facing extradition to Germany on fraud charges, is suing Mulroney to recover the money.

Mulroney says he paid tax on the money only after Schreiber was arrested in 1999 on corruption charges.

He told the MPs that was because the arrest "put in serious doubt my relationship with him.'' Asked if he would have paid the taxes had Schreiber not been arrested, Mulroney said: "Well I don't know the answer to that sir."

Airbus affair

Two years after the agreement, Mulroney said his "world almost ended with the publication of the false and defamatory letter to Switzerland by the government of Canada in the Airbus matter."

"Mr. Schreiber was also accused in the same letter to the Swiss -- obviously, all of my retainer work came to an abrupt and immediate halt."

In 1988, Air Canada -- then a Crown corporation -- bought 34 Airbus jets worth $1.8 billion.

Mulroney sued for defamation after the letter -- linking him to kickbacks in the deal -- was leaked in 1995.

In 1997, Jean Chretien's Liberal government paid Mulroney a $2.1-million settlement.

The Liberals apologized to Mulroney for the "letter of request" but not for the actual RCMP investigation, which ended six years later without charges.

Mulroney said after the letter was leaked he instructed his advisors to contact the income tax authorities to ensure that the full amount received from Schreiber for the Thyssen consulting work was reported by him as income. He said all applicable taxes were paid on the cash payments.

Mulroney also addressed an apparent contradiction to sworn testimony he made in his $2.1 million Airbus settlement -- in which he claimed to have had no prior dealings with Schreiber.

"Any reasonable reading of my testimony indicates that, when I used the language... 'I had never had any dealings with Mr. Schreiber,'... I was clearly referring to the sale of Airbus aircraft at the time that I was in government," said Mulroney.

Mulroney made several points "clearly and unequivocally" to the committee.

He said:

  • He never received "a cent" from anyone for services rendered to anyone in connection with purchase by Air Canada from Airbus of 34 aircraft in 1988.
  • He didn't receive any money from Thyssen Industries or any other client of Mr. Schreiber while he was in office.
  • He "never had a lawyer in Geneva or elsewhere in Switzerland except to defend myself against the false charges laid against me in in 1995."
  • He never had a bank account in Switzerland.
  • Neither he, nor anyone on his behalf, ever asked Mr. Schreiber or his lawyer to perjure themselves or otherwise lie about the payments received from him.

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Mike R.
said

"Error in judgement..." Talk about understatement of the year!


JDC
said

I wonder how many millions will be spent determining what happened to this 300k? The problem with politics sometimes is everyone is so hair-trigger reactionary that little things like this explode. The media covers them like big "scandals" and tries to dig up as much dirt as possible. This looks like its shaping up to be the second time Mulroney has been unecessarily dragged through the mud. Nice payback for serving as prime minister! What a thankless job.


Yves
said

After reading Mr. Mulroney's testimony, It is clear that this was a witch hunt on Brian Mulroney initiated by Karlheinz Schreiber. It's always good to hear both sides of the story before drawing conclusions. Now that I look back, I can't believe on much emphasis was put on Karlheinz Schreiber's statements. That was our big mistake.


Stephen B
said

What a waste of tax money. The former PM did nothing aganist the law. Let's move on. There is nothing to see here.


Dwayne
said

How anyone can say they trust Schreiber over Mr Mulroney is crazy. As far a I know, Mr. Mulroney has been investigated and cleared in the Airbus deal and unlike Schreiber isn't facing extradition to anywhere to face fraud charges. Mr. Mulroney, I would vote for you.


Paul
said

My goodness people judging without actually thinking "he literally admitted taking a huge amount of cash". And to boot... he told people to read about it in his book and there was NO mention of it in there.



FreakAlert
said

Seems like all this is in the 'grey', and a waste of money and time.




Michael (Ottawa)
said

This ethics committee is a witch hunt directed at our former PM. Schreiber was treated with kid gloves but Mulroney is the object of suggestion and innuendo which is TOTALLY inappropriate.
Canadians expect our committee members to accord Mr. Mulroney the same RESPECT and latitude without the preface comments which are designed to taint the former PM.

SHAME on SZABO & his Liberals!

EMG
said

Before rushing to judgement about Mr. Mulroney or Mr. Schreiber it would be wise to wait until there is substantiating evidence to back up the stories of either or both men. The only thing we know for sure is that $300K changed hands between the two men. The rest is hearsay.


FN
said

When is this CRAP going to end???

We're wasting millions of our tax dollars to find out something that we already know. The former PM didn't get kickbacks for the AC plane deal.

Let's quit this and get on with the business of the country.


BlairJ
said

While many Canadians may not have agreed with or supported an number of Mr. Mulroney's policies, one cannot deny that when you look at his tenure as PM objectively and honestly, and without partisan bias, he was a leader of integrity and honesty - saying and doing what he thought was in the best interest of Canada and Canadians. That said, can we as intelligent Canadians not see Mr. Schreiber for what he is - a desperate man saying and doing anything to avoid facing the consequences of his actions in his native Germany - and allow this political circus to come to a rapid and final conclusion.


Peter Friesen
said

Mulroney said he hesitated when he realized it was cash . . . why is it that I find this very difficult to believe. I have voted for this man and I now am sick to my stomach the way our present gov. is supporting him on this issue. Do they believe that what and the way he took this money is right? It doesn't matter if it can't be proved in court. There is such a smell about this that it is rubbing off on our PM today




CraigW in Ontario
said

Funny that there is an extradition order for Mr Schreiber in Germany for illegal activities and the Liberals believe him over our former PM.

I guess birds of a feather flock together.
HRDC, ADSCAM, and whatever other criminal activities the Fiberals were involved with, can make them come to the aid of a fellow criminal and crook.

Mr Mulroney should be left alone and Karlheinz should be put on an Airbus and sent back to Germany to face charges and justice.



Scott
said

I think that the government instead of looking after the country and its people. They are more intrested in getting re-elected and trying to make a fool of other parties. the government is worse than pre school kids, in the way they argue between each other. they should look to the future on how to improve these situations and look after the people of this great country which I am very proud of.


Sean
said

So, Mulroney ASKS for an inquiry. Harper gets the ball rolling.

And yet somebody here says "shame on the Liberals"??

The more I read the comments on CTV the more I think a pack of partisans from the PM's office dive-bomb these comment sections on a daily basis.




Bill
said

also on CTV
Schreiber more believable than Mulroney: poll



I have to agree with the poll


Edb
said

Harper is a strong and effective leader, not a waffling Quebec Liberal lawyer, can't go after him, next best thing, go after the brand and try and link the two. Mulroney happens to be this week's flavour. Trial by (Liberal) media again.


Roch
said

The Liberal party relies too much on criminals like Schreiber for their decision making and direction.


M-J
said

I find all this time consuming, a total waste of money, and some kind of witch hunt.
It is time to send Karlheinz Schreiber home to face his charges. Only 6% care about this, and yet, this committee isn't listening to the other 94%



Raymond
said

Arrogant? Yes. Self-aggrandizing? Yes. Stupid enough to take money illegally? No. As noted several times, this is nothing more than a witch-hunt. Let the inquiry proceed, let Canadians fork out another $30M or so, let Mr. Mulroney sue again. Just remember, people....YOU asked for it.


Jake
said

Typical right-wing comments on here. Figures.

As for you Michael, obviously you haven't been paying much attention. First of all, the committee is formed with ALL parties, not just the Liberals, so get your facts straight.


dwayne-ottawa
said

Should a former prime minister not know that taking money and not reporting it is against the law?? IS IT NOT ??
Throw the book at him if found guilty. Make him pay all taxes and fines owned. AFTER all us ordinary people would not be treated this nice would we?? Ordinary people GO TO JAIL, its time to end the status quo where the wealthy walk around clapping their hands and the poor middle class get marched off in cuffs.


Gregory Boudreau
said

I must give the benefit of doubt to Mr. Muroney. I find it hard to believe that he would put himself in such a positon as this. We are now hearing both sides of the story, so I hope people will listen before making snap judgements, including the media.


retep
said

CTV: Does the CTV staff think this type of behaviour is acceptable. I can't understand how a former PM could not know that this is so wrong that even a child would know that . . . and you keep on saying, "you cannot prove this in a court of law." But my friends, there is a higher court and that is the people. If this doesn't get the attention that it should we will hold our now PM and his party accountable in the next election


Gord
said

Mr. Mulroney had already been cleared of any wrongdoing in the Airbus affair by the RCMP. Mr. Schreiber, on the other hand, is awaiting extradition on fraud and tax evasion charges. That is all anyone needs to know.

The Government of Canada should immediately deport this guy and stop wasting OUR dollars to keep him here.

When is the smear campaign against Mr. Mulroney going to end? The previous Liberal Government has already acknowledged they were wrong to the tune of 2.1 million dollars. GET OVER IT!!

Allan Eizinas
said

“This is not illegal!” and “This is not illegal!” and “This is not illegal!” is what I heard.

Ridiculous!

You accept hundreds of thousands of dollars in $1000 bills (who deals in $1000 bills?), you place them into a safety deposit box in your house and don’t declare it as income for a few years and then as a previous Prime Minister you call it an “error in judgment”?

Holly
said

Oh for Pete sake, this is turning out to be a whole lot of nothing and a complete waste of money and time. Can we just skip the inquiry now?
The smear tactics of the Liberals make me sick. Can we get on with the business of this country and stop trying to smear everything and everybody. These tactics make the Liberal look so petty and childish.


Ken in Moncton
said

Prime Minister Stephen Harper gave the Liberals fair warning when they demanded this can of worms to be opened. How now, I wonder will the Liberals be able to save face. Score another point for King Brian...


Michael Popowich
said

Thank goodness there is no jury in the room.


andré
said

I always voted for the Liberals at the federal level but after seeing the disgraceful conduct of Liberal members of parliament in this affair, I realised that I will never vote for them again. Keep it up guys and you will quickly become totally irrelevant to most Canadians as you have become to me.


John R McTaggart
said

John

Wouldn't the telling tale be to see if he claimed such largess on his income tax for the tax year.

If yes, no problem. If No, then call him scareface and toss him to the lions


Bob
said

We have heard from Schrieber, we have heard from Mulroney let the issue be put to bed. There is NO evidence of any wrongdoing, mistake in judgement perhaps, but let he who is without sin cast the first stone! Let Dion and his pack and the NDP quit wasting our money on a witch hunt and get on with governing the nation's business.


Fishing trip is over...extradite Schreiber now!
said

Karlheinz Schreiber is a storyteller that should be perfectly obvious to all now watching these proceedings. It's time to put this to rest, there is no hand in any cookie jar.


J.C,
said

It is obvious to me that Schreiber is doing anything to delay extradition, and I fail to understand why the liberals and ndp cannot see through him. Schreiber appears to be a very shrewd con man, and is adept at mud slinging allegations so that he can delay his extradition. The liberals and Ndp have jumped on the opportunity for political gain and to try to make it appear as though the Conservatives are just as guilty as they have been with corruption. They are failing dramatically and hopefully the public will take note of their political agenda and the cost they are burdening to us for a few political points. Send Schreiber to Germany to face the charges. Quit playing these costly political games. "You can fool some of the people some of the time,and all of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time"


LFB
said

It seems only too typical of Canadians: We love to "eat our own".
When will we learn some respect?
Former Prime Minister Mulroney (and his family) has earned and deserves Canadians' support.
There is much to be accomplished in this Country. Let's get on with it!


Nick B
said

Mulroney has paid taxes (and fines) owed on the money from Schreiber. It was paid late but that isn't illegal under Canadian law (i.e. you can revise your taxes post-hoc without fear of criminal prosecution).

Let's assume that the money really was received after his tenure as PM. And anyway, since it was cash then it can't be proven when the transaction actually happened!

Okay, Mulroney made a mistake in judgement but I'm not seeing what is/was illegal.


TK
said

Mulroney being a lawyer must certainly have proper paperwork showing his phone calls, meetings and work done for Mr. Schreiber. Why has he not released this in the past or the present?


Unimpressed Canadian
said

I have read the comments section on various topics here and increasingly see the partisan rhetoric..everyone here, particularly the Conservatives, not so much the Liberals and rarely the NDP'ers must be being paid by their political partyies to taint this dialogue. Fortunately it looks like the same bunch over and over and either we have all figured out who they are or we just ignore them..either way I will stick with the average Canadian who doesn't come into here...WE, true Canadians will determine the outcome for our country not political spies like people who regularly blog/taint this column.

boomer
said

I'm a Liberal and I agree... let's stop wasting our money on this. Face it if all we lost was the taxes on 300,000 from our former PM we should count our self luck! Other Government have taken us for much more and so will the current one and the one after that. back room deals will always happen in private and public affares all we can hope for is to keep it at a minimum.

GW
said

The real culprit in all this is the desperate Liberal Party who is trying to smear Mr. Mulroney and then link this to Stephan Harper. This was exactly what I saw on TV the other day when watching a typical interview of party representatives.

Nothing to see hear folks, just another smear campaign by a bunch of weasely lawyers, unless of course you enjoy Tabloid Politics.



Berle L. Eberle
said

Bee: It seems to me that we should take the testimony of these individuals with a grain of salt. But because Mr. Mulroney was in a position of trust in our country, these allegations have to be looked into. The hearings will serve as a check and a balance to all MPs, that in part, is what the Ethics Committee is about. Having said that, if a person approaches me and asks if I want to purchase a watch, then exposes an arm full of watches, I know what's up. Brian Mulroney admits to accepting 3 envelopes of cash - come on !!!


Pablo
said

By the logic expressed on here-the Liberals did nothing against the law with the Sponsorship scandal why was there the big fuss with that? By the way how is this a waste of taxpayer money. The Ethics committee has already been funded the MP's are actually earning their salaries by investigating something that needs to be investigated. It was Mr. Mulroney after all who wanted a public inquiry was it not?


DougD
said

Mulroney used a bit of Clintonspeak when he said he never took the money until he left "public office". Even though he was no longer Prime Minister he was still a Member of Parliament - this is still "public office".

I am so glad the old guard of Mulroney, Chretien & Martin are gone & soon to be forgotten.


Blair J
said

Response/Clarification for Dwayne-Ottawa: It is not illegal to accept cash payment for services either completed or proposed to be completed at a future time - an error in judgement, maybe. Additionally, while an error in not reporting the income in the taxation year received, the Canadian Revenue Agency does allow for taxpayers to make adjustments to previously submitted tax returns in which omissions/errors may have occurred which appears to be the case with Mr. Mulroney - again not illegal.
The rules and regulations of the Canadian Revenue Agency apply to all Canadians - as does the presumption of innocence until proven otherwise by supportable facts and evidence - not smears and innuendos leveled by unsubstantiated ramblings of a person doing whatever possible to avoid extradition and a political circus set on accomplishing nothing except scoring a few perceived political points.



Professional Accountant
said

Under the Income Tax Act, funds received for work TO BE DONE are not taxable until the work is done. If BM received the $225,000 (not $300,000 as reported) then it would be taxed in the year the work was done.

If BM, for whatever reason, did not pay the tax until later under an arrangement with CRA, then his proper tax would be the regular tax plus interest. It has been reported that several thousand Canadians availed themselves of this provision in the same year as BM.

Suggestions that he should go to jail like poor Canadians just don't fit the facts. In Canada, CRA only jails for severe income tax evasion.

If fiberals and NDP must tar BM, them get your facts right!


Adam S., Ottawa
said

Mulroney did nothing wrong other than pay more scrutiny to the optics of this dealing. I hope that his statements will shed the light on this tiresome story and that this nonsense will end abruptly. Enough is enough.


Vincent
said

Some of the posters right wing bias is clearly showing today.

The bottom line is, if it's possible that the law was broken, you need to be investigated especially if you are the Prime Minister. In order for it to get this far you need to have at least some evidence or questions to be determined. In this case Mulroney CLEARLY has contradicted himself on several issues and there are still many unanswered questions.

Why has Mulroney's story changed? Originally he never had any dealings with Schreiber, now he says he didn't have any dealings about Airbus specifically. Well why didn't he testify to that before? That he did have dealings but not about Airbus. He has previously said the money from Schreiber was for a "pasta" business. Now we find out it was for armoured vehicles. Something is not right with Mulroney's statements and contradictions so the government has a duty to investigate. Anything less they would not be doing there jobs. It's not about being partisan.

Allowing abuse of the PMO undermines our entire system and needs more scrutiny.


Stefan K
said

Mulroney is incorrect. It's not an "error in judgement"; it's a lack of character. A man of true character would never have entertained taking a blank envelope filled with cash. No matter what reason for dealing in cash was given. The fact that he waited for the leak during the Airbus fiasco before telling his advisors to claim the payments as income speaks volumes. Trying to fix a mistake after the fact does not exonerate you.


Craig
said

Right on JDC - there is no story here. Mul. is an international deal broker and receives payment for his services. This was nothing more than that.

Darren
said

It's interesting to see people pointing fingers accusing others of being political staffers for having an opinion that may be contrary to their own. The former Prime Minister sounds like many other Canadians who so often are caught off guard by unscrupulous individuals. Did the Liberal party find all of the money that was paid to it from the sponsorship funds? Let's move on.


Gair
said

Error in judgement?
Mr. Mulroney is a lawyer!! Hello Cash payments?
Does he expect us to believe he did not know what he was doing taking cash from an arms dealer?
And somehow this is not related to his now obvious purgery from the air Bus inquiry. Maybe Mr. Mulroney should refund the goverment the amount of money we paid him for "wrongfully smearing his good name".



Neil
said

NO it isn't a waste of time. It's a message to other elected members, if you’re thinking about accepting envelops stuffed with CASH from lobbyists, the tax payer of this country may want to ask you a few difficult questions.


Vince M
said

Those of you who think there is something illegal about taking money should take a basic accounting course.

(a) It is not illegal to accept money in cash form. (b) You do not need to report a retainer to cover expenses as income until it is used, which Mulrooney did.

As much as I detest the guy nothing illegal has happened here and we are going to fork over millions to re-discover that.


Pierre
said

So, Schreiber is expected back home where he will be prosecuted and jailed for fraud. Surprised? No. So Schreiber is bringing back old stories and allegations in order to extend his stay in Canada and not go to jail. Surprised? No. Mr. Mulroney admits to taking money from Schreiber after his term as PM. Anything wrong with that? Who cares, it's after his term. The only person gaining anything out of this is Schreiber. Canadians have nothing to gain from pursuing this any further. Mr. Mulroney loses money yet again, and so do all taxpayers. Doesn't the present govt have enough to do ? I say enough is enough and let's stop these pointless inquiries, and send Schreiber back home.


Craig
said

If Mulroney was a Liberal, all you people would be chasing him to the four corners of the earth!
And he didn't claim the money as income on his taxes until Schreiber got caught in 1999!! I "missed" a couple hundred bucks on my taxes and the feds got me and found it!! What kind if guy is this Mulroney?!!

Keith in Brampton
said

If, after all those years, the RCMP were unable to pin anything on Mulroney, this little charade in the House of Commons will go nowhere.

I really can't stand Mulroney, but I fail to see the point in this exercise. Schreiber is obviously willing to play fast and loose with the truth, and if Mulroney DID do something wrong, he's not likely to admit it now. So unless both men are willing to get hooked up to a polygraph, we have no hope of ever getting past "Shreiber said" / "Mulroney said".

Let's stop wasting our money and move on.


Carlo Dimarco
said

Thanks CTV for airing
Desperate HouseWife OOPs. Desperate Ex-Prime Minister episode live. Enjoyed the drama.


Jonathan Westphal
said

I am certainly no fan of Mulroney - have despised the man for years - but I have to say the partisan frenzy this has caused is unseemly in the extreme. Am I the only one who thinks the NDP and Liberal members of the Ethics committee couldn't care less about the truth, and are grasping at straws to attempt to link this somehow, anyhow, to Harper? What is the purpose of these hearings anyway? Mulroney is long out of office and the committee has no power to sanction him for any wrongdoing, or am I missing something here?


John Timmermans
said

All I have to say get to the end of this debacle. Millions being spend on a deal that has no end.


Scott
said

Where do we send the bill for the millions wasted again? Is Dion and Layton going to be accountable for this cost? We need an payment plan now on how the Liberals and NDP plan to pay for this witch hunt they just dragged us through. Make them accountable!


hilary
said

What is with the citizens of this country? Why are we so willing to believe an individual that is making a fool of this country vs a very well respected individual on the international stage. Mr. Schriber is doing everything he can to remain in this country and avoid charges in Germany. Does anybody wonder why this is? Maybe because Mr. Schriber knows he will be found guilty.


Leroy
said

Here we go again!! Can we just give Brian the 2 mil right now so we don't have to waste 10x as much on an inquiry? But I guess if they didn't have this to argue about the government would actually have to start GOVERNING!! And we wouldn't want that now would we!


Norm
said

In my view, the people who should be "on trial" are the individuals who hide behind the appearance of purporting to be in search of the truth, when in reality, it is only a travesty of justice to defame the character of a former prime minister, who by his own admission was guilty of an error in judgment and acted unwisely.

I suggest that "he or she who is without 'sin" cast the first stone".


Gabby in QC
said

The opposition committee members were much more curt with Mr. Mulroney, cutting him off in mid-sentence and speaking over him, without allowing him the same leeway they accorded Mr. Schreiber, hanging on the latter's every word and apologizing to him effusively in the name of the Canadian people.

This indicates two things:
1. They do not really believe in the "presumption of innocence" section (11d of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedom), since they clearly demonstrated their minds are already made up.

2. This entire exercise is being called an "inquiry" whereas it's proving to be nothing more than a muckraking exercise designed to further sully Mr. Mulroney's name.


Al M
said

If I "forgot" to declare $225,000.00 Revenue Candada would have me in court in a flash...I have never trusted him.


Lart from Above
said

So Mulroney took money in cash and didn't declare it for income tax until after Schreiber was accused of tax fraud in Germany (which caused an investigation of Schreiber's cash payments to politicians).

Taking the cash is a minor point. Not declaring it is highly questionable. He should have walked it straight to the bank and made sure his accountant had a good and clear record of the transactions. Not that one can necessarily believe the testimony given to Parliament, but the visible facts speak for themselves.


Les C
said

This committee which has many members of the masterminds of the sponsorship scandal is nothing more than a witch hunt on Mulroney. Canadians know Schreiber needs to go and the inquiry needs to end. Enough money spent enough said. It is over.


Irene
said

With all the he said, he said going on here, we may never know the whole truth. However, the one thing that bothers me with this forum is the finger pointing at the Liberals and NDP. Wasn't it Brian Mulroney who asked for this farce, welcomed it in fact? Wasn't it Stephen Harper who put the wheels in motion? Quit the political rhetoric and get back to the one inescapable fact - Brian Mulroney accepted envelopes full of cash at least 3 times from a known arms dealer. As a lawyer and a public official didn't he know how this would eventually play out in the eyes of the Canadian people? Or was he and is he too arrogant to care?


gdouglas
said

I think it is time to leave Mr Mulroney and his family alone. Its quite clear that he did nothing wrong. The only fault was his ever meeting and doing business with Schrieber. I think this is a smear campaign being pushed by the Liberals and NDP to try and make a connection to the present Government. Leave it alone, Send Schrieber back to Germany and save us; the taxpaper millions of dollars in a useless public inquiry.


frodad
said

Mr. Mulroney took money from a lobbyist and did not report it as income until he was asked to pay taxes owing on that money. Does it not reek of something fishy here? He is indeed hiding the facts and a full public inquiry is going to reveal all of the lies and deception on both sides of this saga.


bernine M
said

It is about time this comes to an end. The liberal party is desperate to deflect issues away from their own mis-adventures. save, their inept leader. They are trying to link perhaps one of our greatest prime Ministers to dirt because they cannot stand to be out of government. They believe that they rule by divine right and will stop at no end to persue that perceived right. They attempted to link Mulroney with Harper to no avail. The are also helped by te media in this country who give 10 and 20 second media bites on corruption. It is only those who take the time to look through all the evidence that come up with an informed conclusion. Most people choose not to do that and relay on the left leaning media to feed them. I example for anyone perusal: Schreiber sue Mulroney files a court document and the media picks up on it. The Finance Minister of Ontario, a Liberal, gets an Civil Inforamtion sworn against him in September 2007 and it is not reported or follwed up on until after the election. Then he has to step aside again for personal reasons. It seems strange to me that the lid was kept on this until after and election.


debbie
said

Seems Mr. Chretien still controls the Liberal party and will never stop his vendetta against a honest Prime Minister...thankfully Mr. Mulroney IS the BETTER man!!


Gary J
said

Vince M says,
"Those of you who think there is something illegal about taking money should take a basic accounting course.

(a) It is not illegal to accept money in cash form. (b) You do not need to report a retainer to cover expenses as income until it is used, which Mulrooney did.

As much as I detest the guy nothing illegal has happened here and we are going to fork over millions to re-discover that."

Vince, you should take a basic law course. Bringing more than $10,000 in cash across the border without declaring it IS illegal (except, of course, for a "privileged few"). It's interesting that BM didn't address that issue.


Barb S.
said

Let me preface my comments by saying I have only voted conservative once in my life.

I watched the proceedings and was not impressed by the partisan politics. The committee let Schriber talk on and on at great length, hoping to get something juicy. The committee did not allow Mulroney adequate time to offer a context within which to respond to a question. I'm disappointed a former Prime Minister was treated so badly; one I never voted for.


John T
said

The inquiry should proceed. It is not costing the taxpayer very much, and some serious questions are being addressed. Running the country isn't coming to a halt, and this is a very small part part of the machinery of government. Financial and professional resources are being applied where and as they should be.

If you think it is a waste of time, then don't read up on it, and don't post.

This isn't about us vs them, it is about finding out the truth the way civilized democracies are supposed to. It's a service we get for paying our taxes.


Rafael Landaverde
said

Pablo Escobar and his International Cartel used to deal in cash only too!!

"When I hesitated, he said 'I'm an international businessman and I only deal in cash, this is the way I do business,'" said Mulroney.



Vince M
said

Hey Gary J. Basic law course? Guess what - I have!

Bringing more than $10,000 in cash across the border without declaring it has been a long time US law but not a Canadian one at the time. Regardless,
wouldn't that be Schreiber's problem, not BM's? That is of course unless you believe Mirabel, Quebec is not part of Canada.




Adriana
said

What a waste of time and money!!!! Just send Schreiber to Germany to face the music, and put this whole farce behind us. Schreiber is just toying with the committee and the media, which should know better.


Al in Cranbrook
said

This is about one thing, and one thing only: Smearing Mulroney and hoping it sticks to Harper.

The Libs and Dippers want to drag this out now to the next committee meeting on Jan. 28...you know, just before the Libs plan to bring down Harper's government.

Talk about your "hidden agenda" or what!

The do anything, say anything Liberals once again demonstrate their readiness to set new lows in their quest for power at any cost.

I hope Harper sends Schreiber packing, and brings all of this shameless garbage to an end.




Dave from Estevan
said

When you subtract all the political bs what you have left is that Brian Mulroney exercised poor judgment. He engaged in questionable behavior and while it may not be enough to send him to jail, he should have to personally pay the costs of the entire investigation, and of any inquiry. If you hit him in the pocketbook, it will make others think twice about behaving like that.


Nick B
said

Gary J, I might be mistaken but I don't follow your *basic law* argument. The first payment happened in Quebec (i.e. Canada). The locations of the last two payments aren't mentioned in the article. What border law was broken?


Cheap baseless judgments....
said

Despite what some of the optics may appear to anyone the facts are:

1) Mulroney broke no rules of Parliament,
2) He did nothing illegal,
3) Taking cash is NOT illegal, (maybe not wise, but not illegal)
4) He didn't have to declare income until it was earned.

Much as some people would like to rush to judgment without just cause, Mulroney deserves respect and I accept his testimony as delivered compared to Schreiber's many
contrary statements under oath. This committee is far to partisan to be given a fair shake. I prefer they end it now or send it to a proper inquiry.




Geoffrey
said

What a joke this committee is. The Liberals are looking for some revenge for the Gomery Inquiry. The Bloc are trying to save their bacon from the surging Conservatives (while they were surging), the NDP already got caught lying twice already how about a hat trick now? The RCMP has investigated this thing to death for years and finally stopped investigating. Schreiber is saying anything to avoid being extradited back to Germany. End this nonesense now. Anyone who believes Schreiber or the Opposition just want to get Mulroney even if there is no real evidence to support the claim.


Reg Volk
said

Let' see large sum of cash broken up into samll amounts.

Meetings in different hotels.

In differenet places.

No taxes paid for years.

And then Mulroney claims he thought Schreiber was "Just an international arms dealer." despite Schreiber helping Mulroney win the Conservarive leadership years ago.

So who is being "duped"?


Rojan
said

What is this? Conservative blogger central? Obviously a group of you guys are orchestrating "public opinion" here. It's always the same "Brian is innocent", "Let's stop the witch hunt". Handing off Cash in hotel rooms looks a lot like something out of a mob movie. Brian is lyin' I say. He certainly has a commanding aura about him....that's probably why most of the people commenting are blinded by him.


Geoff
said

A fitting end ... I recall Mulroney castigating John Turner with the "you had a choice, sir" speech during the election. What gall. And now we know what choice he made.....

Betty
said

The article is not as distrubing as the comments. This was an investigation initiated by Harper not the Liberals. I think a pack of partisans from the PM's office dive-bomb these comment sections on a daily basis. The more I read the comments on CTV and it's articles the more of a let down I feel. When it comes to fair and accurate unpartisan reporting I think I may have to look elsewhere


Eric
said

For those people on here demanding that the partisanship stop (while in the same breath trying to remind people that Harper and Mulroney started this inquiry.)

I'd like to remind -them- that it was Liberal and NDP members who hounded Harper to hold this inquiry. Harper relented eventually, after warning the opposition parties that this would turn into a debacle... which, go figure, it has!

So while Harper started this inquiry, it was in order to cease the demands of the Liberals and NDP to hold an inquiry.

Startin' to look to me like Harper was right about not bringing this up again... but what do I know? I'm clearly a covert Conservative 'spy' hired to spread my filthy lies.


kate
said

Garyj. Re taking $10,000.00 across the border? Mr Mulroney addressed this question and stated he had not taken any money across the border. The money Mr Mulroney put in a safety deposit box in the USA was given to him in the USA. He did not take it across the border. Perhaps you should direct this question to Mr Schreiber?


John
said

In case anybody cared to check, Harper did NOT call the Ethics Committee enquiry, the opposition did. Harper ordered a Public Enquiry, but since the opposition didn't think that the powers would be wide enough, asked for the Ethics Committee to conduct this enquiry. Just so the record is straight, because some people never seem to get things straight!


A Matter of Personal Character...
said

A man of Brian Mulroney's education and business background displayed a remarkable lack of character in accepting a bagful of $1,000 dollar bills no matter what the reason. The optics are improper and this is what has landed Mr. Mulroney in all this hot water.


He may not have done anything illegal but business dealings involving large amounts of cash isn't proper just for the optics alone. We expect more integrity and character from our leaders.


Peter G. - Pointe aux Roches
said

First, the timeline makes the testimony implausible. I am not sure precisely when he left office but he was in office in June of 1993. By August 27, 1993 he is already accepting a payment. Are we to believe that this was the first contact? Are we to believe that an individual is offered this type of cash at the first meeting? How could a Prime Minister believe that it is normal for "international businessmen" to deal in cash? Don't they have accounting rules in Germany? Did he did not think that it was unusual for an international businessman to not ask for a receipt? This does not pass the "sniff test". It begs the question, what what else is there that we don't know about?


LindaL
said

Sean says: "Mulroney ASKS for an inquiry. Harper gets the ball rolling." -- Sean, what planet do you live on? You must not follow the goings on in Parliament very closely. This whole investigation was initiated by the Liberals. Mulroney knows he did not do anything illegal, so agrees to the Liberal calls for an enquiry, and for the most part, the Prime Minister is caught in the middle -- if he refuses an enquiry when both sides seem to want it he is accused of coverup. What I am particularly disgusted by is the way in which the ethics committee has degenerated into a witch -hunt as evidenced today by enquiries about Mulroney's relationship with Bernier when he was Industry minister -- This line of questioning is WELL beyond anything relevant in this case. It's sickening and I think that those "ethical" Parliamentarians should be thoroughly embarrassed by their own lack of ethical behaviour. This is McCarthyism plain and simple and it will not look good in the history books.


Cynthia - Ottawa
said

OMG!!! Is everybody living on another planet???
One of our Prime Ministers, has admitted to accepting $$$ in an envelope from a business person, for consulting, without any paperwork or contract. He accepted this CASH more than once, and did not deposit it anywhere, but kept it in safes and safety deposit boxes.
He did not keep records on his expenses, or have any deliverables, as part of this consulting deal!!!!!
He paid tax on the entire amount when Schreiber was arrested, and did not deduct any allowable expenses.
He had previously denied dealing with Schreiber...under oath. That deal cost us taxpayers over $$$2 Million.
Mulroney was the PM. He ran the country. How likely is it that he was dumb enough to think that CASH in an envelope in a hotel room with no contract or paperwork is an acceptable way of doing business???

And how dumb are we to defend and accept this type of activity???


Stephen F
said

It is a disgrace to see how we treat our elder statesmen of all political stripes. Mr. Mulroney did great things for Canada, and Canada was more respected under Mulroney in the international stage. It is beyond me that most Canadians would take the word of a disgraced person than a Prime Minister who done great things for Canada and abroad. We do not need to waste any more money on this matter.


LindaL
said

Cynthia -- I think that today Mulroney did an entirely credible job of explaining all of the issues you bring up. Mulronely has been out of office for 14 years and the RCMP tried very hard for many years and could not find that he did anything illegal. I cannot see any benefit for Canadians in further pursuing this matter, and if this investigation keeps up we may find ourselves paying much more than the 2 million already lost in trying to further smear Mulroney.


RRO
said

If Schreiber has had all this information for years why did he wait until he was facing extradition to bring it up.
My guess is that had it been a Liberal government he would have talked about dealings with Liberals.
Since it is a Conservative government he is talking about Mulroney.
Thanks to the Professional Accountant for that information, that was my reading of the tax code as well.
This is all partisan politics aided by a small man trying to stay in Canada and made worse by what APPEARS to be illigal activity but is all just appearance.
I actually feel bad for Mr. Mulrony. I wonder when the Liberals will get around to investigating Martin and Chretien as well or even Trudeau since we are digging up history.


Clarification for Reg Volk
said

Schreiber DID NOT help Mulroney win the leadership race in 1983 when Mulroney won. He did help in 1976 when Mulroney lost - as per Schreiber's testimony.


Rod
said

Its seems post Mulroney's statements that the media are rallying thier wagons to defend the MacCarthism like tactics amoung their senior reporting ranks. In any other industry - they would have to excuse themselves for being a part of the story


dale worsfold
said

if you were to ask me whether i believe

a. brian mulroney
b. karl-heinz schreiber

the answer would be

c. neither of the above


James C
said

Only in Canada do we fry our former Prime Ministers.
Clearly this is all about scoring politcal points by the opposition but in the end we as Canadians all loose. We look ridiculous in the eyes of the world for spending so much time and money on such a lame issue.

The politicians should focus on running the country as a representatives of the people and forge this petty political point scoring, or we should vote them out.


Ron McAllister
said

I did not have sex with that girl, I did not have sex with that girl, sound familiar?


B. Garner
said

... Clearly, Karlheinz is using this 'issue' as his ace-in-the-hole to avoid extradition. Brian, on the other hand, only admitted to "making a mistake" and paying tax on the funds received AFTER those cash transfers become public knowledge. Let's extradite them both to Germany!


David
said

I echo Cynthia in Ottawa's remarks. How stupid does this arrogant little man think we Canadians are?? And then to think that just because Mr. Schreiber said "it's cash because that's the way I deal in international business", it lets him off the hook? Go tell it to the judge, fella. He was a big boy, supposedly an 'ethical' lawyer, and apparently some thought he was quite smart. If all that is true, Mr. Mulroney would have produced a receipt for Mr. Schreiber and kept a copy for himself 'for his reocrds'. Obviously, no record of this transaction was desired by either party because they both knew it was NOT CLEAN money!!! And then to drag his family, deceased parents and even Sir John A. Macdonald into it was over the top for best performance by a B-grade actor - all that was lacking was the fiddler on the roof playing something to pull at our heartstrings. I am outraged and disgusted that this seems to be the way 'business is conducted' in Ottawa, a business by and for the Mulroney-inspired lobbyists, certainly with no regard for the Canadian public. Decent Canadians with no political affiliations (that is, most of us) are FED UP with this incessant political garbage from our elected employees!!


Tim
said

To those who say "lets hold the former PM and his party accountable in the next election".

I fail to understand the logic considering the Conservative party is NOT the Progressive Conservative party. Different parties from two completely different eras.


Ken in Moncton
said

I never would have believed that Brian Mulroney would have so many defenders. After he left office he was the most vilified politians in Canada. Today, however, we seem to see him in a different light. The Canada that we are now, with the strong dollar and robust economy is a direct result of his policies. GST, free trade, etc are his legacy. This affair will be nothing more than a blip on the radar.


Barry
said

As usual people are making uninformed comments based on what the media has to say or on pure partisanship.

If you watch the entire testimony of Brian Mulroney before the Commons Ethics Committee it is apparent that there was no illegal activity on the part of Brian Mulroney.

Leave the man alone and quit wasting taxpayers money. The partisan politics at work here is disgusting.


Cynthia - Ottawa
said

Linda...It's not about trying to smear Mulroney. It's about the standards by which I expect from the politicians that represent all of us. I expect that they will conduct themselves in a manner above reproach...that's why we vote for them. I do not expect that they take money in envelopes and hide it in safety deposit boxes for years. And I expect the TRUTH at all times, under all circumstances.

I also don't expect to be given some stupid story, about accepting an envelope of money, because Mulroney didn't know better.

Is this perhaps the tip of the iceberg????


Ian Kluge
said

Schreiber played the so-called 'Ethics' Committee (which is really an opposition hatchet squad) like a violin. This is all part of an opposition scheme: unable to outsmart and unseat the Conservatives in parliament, they are now trying to smear the Conservatives indirectly by dragging up Mulroney again - thereby giving Schrieber his chance to avoid extradition. He is only too happy to tell them anything they want to hear for their own political purposes. If we're going to have an inquiry into Mulroney again, let's also have one about Chretien and the Auberge Grandmere and the golf course, not to mention the HRDC ($1B gone) and possibly an addition to the Gomery inquiry to get to the bottom of that little affair.

What this whole thing has shown is that Canadians have absolutely nothing to feel superior about vis-a-vis American politics. We're right down there in the mud with them.


Pete
said

He didn't claim it for 6 years, Are you guys insane? If it was me or you we would have been in jail. Get his taxes and see if it's 300,000 or less. Maybe he didn't claim it all. Now it's the paper trail. Find his lawyer in Switzerland. Did he pay a penalty for filing such a late claim on such a huge amount ?

What is it GIC? Lets get there documents.

Is it just me or isn't kind of odd how the Conservatives are trying to downplay all of this?


Dick Varley
said

What planet is "dwayne-ottawa" from. Retainers are not taxable until invoiced for services rendered and may sit on the books for an extended period of time. Normally expenses are deducted from the retainer before declaring any remaining portion as income. Prime Minister Mulroney chose at his expense to settle any requirement with revenue Canada when he thought his relationship with Karlheinz Schreiber was suspect. This was the honorable thing to do.


Rich
said

While many Canadians may not have agreed with or supported an number of Mr. Mulroney's policies, one cannot deny that when you look at his tenure as PM objectively and honestly, and without partisan bias, he was a leader of integrity and honesty - saying and doing what he thought was in the best interest of Canada and Canadians.

Are you serious? The guy did anything but do what was in the best interest of Canadians! He was there for himself his own self interests and no one else! If you are that blind maybe think about not voting in the next election because all these politicians are there for themselves and their own self-interests (financial). What other job gives a full lifetime pension after only 6 years on the job? Name one . . . please! I would also like to know what you have to say to those who lost their jobs in the softwood lumber industry? So much for free trade . . . eh!?


D USA
said

I find it absolutely SHOCKING that people think it is just fine for a former PM to receive $1000 bills and not report it as income for some years and then blame the Liberal party for questioning such actions. WHAT IS HAPPENING TO CANADIANS if they condone such activity? Should we all deal in cash now? Is an envelope in a hotel how we should all run our affairs ??? Are conservatives so accepting of this? Wow!!!
Are the people e mailing to this site real?


RAV
said

Gary J seems to have missed this point.He makes me wonder how many of those writing comments actually sat throught the four hours of testimony. For example Prime Minister Mulroney said that he used an American safety deposit box for the funds received in the USA. He used a box at home in Canada for funds received in Canada.


Joe
said

Mr. Schreiber has offered to take a lie detector test. Since Mulroney requested that a multi million dollar inquiry be held, why doesn't he just offer to take a lie dector test first?

It would cost a mere few thousand dollars.




Dave
said

A scan through the e mails would suggest most people think Mr Mulroney did nothing wrong, it is a waste of time to question receipt of cash payments and not report the income until he was frightened.
I am afraid for our country if such activities are acceptable to the public. Where are the ethics, morals ?


R. A. Hicks
said

Sean wrote: "The more I read the comments on CTV the more I think a pack of partisans from the PM's office dive-bomb these comment sections on a daily basis."

When a comment is added, the IP address of the source should be recorded and displayed along with the comment. That would allow the identification of the organization that "owns" the IP address associated with the comment. If that capability exposed a concerted propaganda campaign by party hacks by showing a flood of comments from IPs owned by the government, the resulting publicity should help suppress such propaganda.


Chris
said

I am having a problem with people linking this with the present goverment. I agree the opposition would like to use this to put a cloud over Harper, but when the accusations came out, Harper did the right thing, and allowed the issue to be investigated, slight delay in that but that is where we were at now.
If we are going on this witch hunt for one, let's investigate all ex polititians to find out how they all accumalated so much wealth (maybe not all have) after leaving office or from the time they were elected to the time people got wise and turfed them out.
Enough of spending taxpayers money again, lets get on with governing as we elected these people for in the first place.


Francesco G
said

I find it appalling that Mr. Mulroney took a number of years to report his cash income and only after the investigation by the RCMP did he pay his fair share of taxes. Shame on him.


Benjamin
said

Those of you defending the former prime minister are likely not old enough to remember when he was in office. Back then he would be routinely caught in lies but you believe he's telling the truth now?


DANIEL
said

This just another demostration of how much we can trust the people that run this country both now and in the past. "Every man for himself." The truth about life even in politics.


proud canadaian
said

Betty, it is not like Harper had a choice. If i recall the Liberals and Ndp were pretty well accusing him of trying to get schreiber out of the country so he couldn't testify. Thet were the ones insisting there be an enquiry I find more liberal supporters here looking for anything to smear any Conservatives. It really doesn't matter what he does, people are going to find something to whine about.


Delta Lori
said

Made a mistake? Three times in three different places? They didn't call him "Lyin' Brian" for nothin'.
He's pretty smooth but he has a lot to answer for.


Re:Clarification for Reg Volk
said

Who cares which election Schreiber hlped with!(1973) The point is that Mulroney has known him FOR A LONG TIME, even though he pretends it was only a casual acquaintance!


Morvin
said

According to a national newspaper, Mulroney "was forced to repeat his whispered response when he declined to be sworn in as a witness."

Why would someone who professes to be telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth refuse to be sworn in as a witness?

Is it to avoid being charged with perjury when the truth is finally revealed?





CB
said

He claims he did nothing 'illegal' This is an ethics review. Lawyers are the only ones getting anything 'true' out of this - more $$$$$ (at our expense)


Mark - Fort Erie Ontario
said

Well, I am a staunch Conservative supporter. I support the present government and Mr. Harper. I supported Mr. Mulroney, until today. I am disappointed, disillusioned, hurt, embarassed, and I will now hope, if any wrong doing was done, that Mr. Mulroney is held fully accountable, and I trust he will be. Why I am really disappointed, is that the Liberal supporters out there, aren't willing to go after there own party for the horrible disservice they did to Canadians during, and after the sponsorship scandal....

Liz
said

I know! Let's all have another poll!
Let Canadians decide if they believe Mulroney. What's another poll when Harper has already spent $31 million in less than 2 years. Harper released the Paille report today, and it doesn't look good...
Tried to sneak it under the Mulroney kerfuffle. Didn't work



P. Weed
said

The questions have been asked. The answers have been given. The facts are clear. Mr. Mulroney expressed his regret. Schreiber needs to face his criminal charges in Germany. Not another cent of Canadian tax payer’s money should be wasted.


Greg
said

Sean

I think you are right. Judging from the comments on different issues in this forum I believe all parties have loyalists watching and trying to sway opinions. Blair's comment would be a prime example. To use integrity and the word honorable in the same sentence when describing Brian Mulroney or any politician for that matter is ludicrous.


Ron
said

Get serious on the question of trusting Brian Mulroney - Reading Stevie Cameron's book "On The Take" will certainly dispel total belief in testimony given by this man.


A D
said

There is an old saying:
If it doesn"t look right, it usually isn't


Moe
said

This is all about pathetically trying to stick Harper with something. Millions of dollars will be spent and for what...NOTHING!
What a joke! Way to go Liberals and NDP....


C.G.Ouimet
said

So, we store perfectly legally acquired cash payments in safety deposit boxes. Hmm ...


ET
said

CTV IS VERY BIASED AND PRO MULRONEY OTHERWISE MY EARLIER COMMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSTED AND WHICH IS ALSO EVIDENT FROM MOST OF THE COMMENTS POSTED THAT ARE MOSTLY PRO MULRONEY. I HARDLY BELIEVE THAT MOST OF THE COMMENTS WERE POSTED OF THOSE THAT ARE ANTI MULRONEY.

Joshi. N
said

I don't believe a word BM has to say. BM has cleverly concocted the story to look like a victim. None of his story makes any sense.

He makes it look like he was working internationally when in fact it was to justify his failure to pay the GST. Anyone with common sense knows that he is not a salesperson. He says that he approached foreign countries such as China, Europe and USA when in fact he didn't have anything to present. If you want to sell something you have to have product or the prototype first.

BM is not a salesperson. What has BM sold for Canada? Nothing. The Germans don’t need us to sell the product for them. Just see the success of BMW, Mercedes Benz, VW, and Siemens. They are far superior.

BM was approached for one reason-to influence the political process to set up a plant in Canada.

BM says that hesitated receiving huge sum of money in cash but took it nevertheless. Any prudent person with a legal training he had would have walked away from such a deal. The fact he didn’t shows that he wanted keep the whole thing a secret. After all he didn’t need any favours. He could have demanded payment by check, draft or money order, but didn’t. That shows that BM is less than honest.



Lourens Wierenga
said

L.S. Re; Mulroney/Schreiber.
Deposit of cash in a Safety Deposit Box: reason could be that a large deposit of Cash in a Bank Account, could require the Depositor to declare the origin and purpose of the Cash deposit. Then, why not deposit it in a Safety Deposit Box. Nothing to declare!
Just a thought for you to pursue.
Lourens.


Ted B.
said

The R.C.M.P. have fully investigated this matter. I cannot understand why we are spending more of our hard earned money (our tax dollars) on this inquiry. For the life of me I cannot even fathom why Schrieber was give one second on the microphone. Let him go back to Germany and face the charges, let him be cleared there, then we maybe can listen to the accusations that he brings.


Gail Thomas
said

I still think this whole thing has been nothing but a media circus further detroying a former PM's image, even though he bared his soul and apologized. Other countries use currency for business transactions on a daily basis. I guess the NDP don't travel much. And the Liberals are clinging to the notion that they're holier than thou. Whose next on the list for this Inquisition? I am disgusted by this muck raking. Send Mr. Schreiber on the next plane to Germany. I vote for Mr. Mulroney.


Eric
said

I find it cute that people are accusing parties of sending 'spies' in here to sway public opinion, yet two of these accusers used exactly the same phrase:

"The more I read the comments on CTV the more I think a pack of partisans from the PM's office dive-bomb these comment sections on a daily basis."

Coincidence, unoriginality or script?



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