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Date: Sun. Dec. 9 2007 10:41 PM ET
Crown prosecutors say they are satisfied a jury has found Robert Pickton guilty on six counts of second-degree murder in the deaths of women from Vancouver's Downtown Eastside, calling the verdict a "validation" of their case.
"I think it's a very good result," lead Crown lawyer Michael Petrie told a press conference Sunday. "Mr. Pickton was convicted of six counts of murder."
Some family members of the victims were angered that Pickton was not found guilty of first-degree murder, which would have implied an element of planning and deliberation in the women's deaths.
Crown spokesperson Stan Lowe said the seven-lawyer team was content with the verdict.
"We view today's verdict as a validation -- a confirmation of our assessment of the evidence in this case," he said.
Family members of the victims gathered outside the courthouse for a solemn ceremony after the verdict, some struggling to hold back tears. They formed a circle and held candles representing the women they had lost.
Pickton, 58, had been charged with first-degree murder in the deaths of Sereena Abotsway, Mona Wilson, Andrea Joesbury, Georgina Papin, Brenda Wolfe and Marnie Frey.
Some family members were shocked when the verdict was first read out, moaning when they heard the words "not guilty of first-degree."
"I actually lost my heart -- it was in my stomach. I thought, 'I don't know if I can sit here,' I was gasping for air, thinking he was going to get off," said Lynn Frey, the stepmother of Marnie Frey.
"Then when they read it over again, I realized he was getting all the charges (of second-degree murder). I prayed, and sure enough he got it."
The difference in the two types of convictions:
- The sentence for first-degree murder is life in prison with no parole eligibility for 25 years.
- Someone convicted of second-degree murder will also be sentenced to life in prison, but could have their minimum parole eligibility date set to anything between 10 and 25 years.
"(Jurors) had a lot of evidence they had to sift through. And when they reached the conclusions that they did, it gives us some glimpse of what was going on in the jury room, but a lot of it is speculative," said lead defence lawyer Peter Ritchie.
"I guess what we can learn is that since they acquitted this man of first-degree murder, they weren't satisfied that the evidence showed he planned and deliberated these murders."
The jury declined to make a recommendation about sentence length.
Justice James Williams of B.C. Supreme Court thanked the jury, who had spent 10 months hearing evidence and 10 days deliberating.
"Over the last long, long time -- it's a year now -- while carrying out your obligations, you've represented the people of Canada in this very important task and on their behalf, I want to offer you my most sincere thank you," he said.
"You know now what an enormous responsibility it is to judge your fellow man and you have performed this task admirably in my view."
The families have asked that their victim impact statements be read out on Tuesday, on the same day that Pickton will face a sentencing hearing.
Drama accompanied the reading of the verdicts. The courtroom first heard the words "not guilty" in association with the first-degree murder charge, and some thought Pickton had been acquitted. The courtroom then fell silent as it became clear Pickton was convicted of second-degree murder for all six victims.
"It is difficult for the Crown to prove first-degree murder," Wally Oppal, B.C.'s attorney-general, told CTV Newsnet. The elements of planning and deliberation are the key elements, he said.
"We think the jury delivered the proper verdict," Oppal said, and described the prosecution team as having done an "awesome job."
Police arrested Pickton in February 2002. The subsequent investigation of his Port Coquitlam pig farm turned into the most intensive forensic investigation in Canadian history.
The investigation was a joint operation between the Vancouver Police Department and the RCMP.
"The hundreds of investigators have completed more than 13,000 tasks, interviewed hundreds of individuals, and recorded over 1,500 statements," a police spokesperson said Sunday following the verdict.
"If you boxed up the evidence to date, it would equal 688 boxes -- enough to completely fill a large room. If you piled the boxed one on top of each other, their height would be taller than that of the Seattle Space Needle."
The trial began on Jan. 22. The seven-man, five-woman jury heard 128 witnesses (98 for the Crown, 30 for the defence), two closing arguments and a four-day "charge" from Justice Williams of B.C. Supreme Court in New Westminster, B.C., which is instructing the jury on the applicable law.
The jury began its deliberations on Nov. 30. Family members of the women Pickton has now been convicted of killing had been conducting a native smudge ceremony this morning when word came down about the verdict.
Pickton pleaded not guilty to six counts of first-degree murder in the deaths of women, some of whom were sex trade workers who disappeared from Vancouver's Downtown Eastside over a period of years.
A further 20 counts of first-degree murder against him will be dealt with at a later date.
Oppal said the "public interest" will determine whether Pickton will face trial on those charges.
"Keep in mind that he's been convicted now of six counts of second-degree murder and will get six mandatory life sentences," he said, adding the victims' families will be consulted.
The cost of the first trial is rumoured to be in the hundreds of millions of dollars. Oppal said he couldn't confirm the cost at this point, but said cost would not be a consideration in deciding whether to proceed with the second trial.
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.



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Greg from Ottawa
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Trevor Pace
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He had to at least know he was going to kill the 2, 3, 4, 5 ,6...etc.
James
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Sher
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Robert Black - Ottawa
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Peter from Halifax
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John Smith
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This is patently untrue. It's oft-repeated but always unaccompanied by data showing that life sentences with no possibility of parole for 25 years *always* result in parole after 25 years.
Adam MacDonald
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Mike.
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A. Bica
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Mike
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Steve Berreth
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The vancouver police should be ashamed for ignoring these missing women.
Robert - Victoria
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Gerry Merchant
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Easy for you to say the verdict is like, "weird."
Obviously, you have never felt "...the enormous responsibility of judging your fellow man.", as the judge remarked to the jurors.
Dallas Cooper
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Dwayne M.
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Don
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Theresa S.
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KD
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Joe Dukes
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Perhaps the jury selected a second degree charge that that was relativly 'safe' from a sucessful appeal, thereby serving the surviving victims and the public much better than the justice system itself would have. YES, 6 Consecutive sentences Please!
Bob
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charles
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Jonathan
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RTMS
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Ken
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There is no JUSTICE system in Canada. We have a LEGAL system that favours/protects the offenders, but does little for the victim or their families.
Hopefully the judge will do the right thing, and make parole eligibility the maximum at 25 years. But I am not holding my breath.
May
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I feel it would be a great injustice to the rest of the victims and their families if a trial is not held for the other twenty missing women. Cost should not be a factor in a case of this significance. In the event that Picton did not commit all of the murders that he is still charged with it is important to know this, in order to keep searching for the other people responsible, and it doesn't make sense to just dismiss the other cases.
I can't imagine what the families have gone through, but I pray that todays verdict gives them some piece of mind in knowing that this monster will not be able to cause harm to anyone else, and find some closure.
Ken
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Not fair to lump the police in with your comments. The RCMP did their job, and then some. The scope of this investigation was massive. The police are just as frustrated with the LEGAL system, as every other Canadian. It is the judges, lawyers, and politicians who should be taken to task.
deb nanson
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As a former sex trade worker that knows we are not disposable humans, we have families, goals and dreams. As for Pickton the charges should not have been reduced as the act was unspeakable. So the first voice of justice we hear is a reduction in the charges. Again those women were someone's sister, mother, daughter, aunt, friend...
Alden
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BC
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Vaudree
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Those society devalues are a greater risk from people like him because of people like us. Let's not forget that because there are more Picktons out there.
jester - North Bay
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"If we execute murderers and there is in fact no deterrent effect, we have killed a bunch of murderers. If we fail to execute murderers, and doing so would in fact have deterred other murders, we have allowed the killing of a bunch of innocent victims. I would much rather risk the former. This, to me, is not a tough call."
John McAdams - Marquette University/Department of Political Science, on deterrence
Jason H.
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Where were their families when they needed help? Is it hypocritical of them to rail against Pickton when they had the chance to help their loved ones?
Mike K
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1. A life sentence is in fact for life with the possibility of parole guaranteed after 25 years. This does not, however, mean that he will get paroled at 25, or 30, or 100 years. Just that he's entitled to it. Given the gravity of these cases, the number of cases, and the requirement that remorse be shown it would be most unlikely that he will ever get parole.
2. While the families and others may have wanted 1st degree murder, that thankfully isn't how our judicial system is run. The families could have wanted an arson charge thrown in as well, but the facts simply don't support such a charge.
The fact that you killed numerous people does not necessarily mean that each killing was premeditated and planned. One may decide to kill an individual once a month. This doesn't by any means suggest that the person was chosen in advance and targeted, that the act of murder itself wasn't done on a whim because they felt like doing it at that moment.
Let me put it as my law school professor put it: you may use the washroom 100 times a week, but that doesn't mean you planned exactly what time, what washroom, or how you were going to go about doing it.
In this case, he was convicted of murder. That should be the important aspect of the conviction. The degree of murder is based on fact, not on the basis that someone died. For example, manslaughter is unintentional homicide. 2nd Degree murder is intentional muder. 1st degree murder is planned and premeditated murder. All involve death however.
This is a victory without question and we shouldn't get bogged down in the symantics - that is far from the purpose of having different types of homicide.
Devon
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To clear it up, just because he is entitled to parole between 10 to 25 years from now, doesn't mean he will receive it. All it means is that he can apply. I will gladly give up my degree in Criminal Justice if he is not labelled as a DO once entering an institution. Being labelled as a dangerous offender, he will be held indefinitely and never get out. Also, if he receives 25 to life, he will be 83 years old...if he ever makes it that far.
The justice system did its job and has not failed anyone in this case. Canadians should be proud of their justice system. For all its faults, it is still arguably one of the best in the world, and has been modeled after by many nations.
Our justice system gave these murdered women a voice when they had none and he was rightfully convicted.