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Date: Wed. Nov. 21 2007 10:33 PM ET
A new report is calling on NATO to double its troop levels in Afghanistan to 80,000 soldiers.
The report by the Senlis Council -- an international think tank with an office in Ottawa -- also argues that resurgent Taliban now have a presence in about half of Afghanistan and could threaten Kabul in 2008.
"We can't defeat the Taliban just by fighting (with a) small army in Kandahar," Almas Bawar, a Senlis Council spokesperson, told CTV Newsnet's Mike Duffy Live.
"We need more troops so we can stop the bombing (of) villages. It will decrease civilian casualties. In the meantime, we'll have more forces to fight insurgents (such as the) Taliban on the ground in Kandahar, where they are taking district after district each week."
Senlis's new security assessment report is based on field research conducted over the past month.
The group called for the following:
- Doubling NATO troop levels to 80,000
- Remove all caveats constraining troop deployment
- Expand the fight by moving into Pakistan and attacking insurgent bases there -- with the Pakistani government's permission
"The Taliban have established firm roots across the border in Pakistan. President Musharraf has been unable to deal with these bases, and as a result it is impossible to stop the growth of the insurgency in Afghanistan," said Norine MacDonald, president and lead researcher of the Senlis Council.
"NATO troops in Pakistan are therefore urgently required to quell this growing threat, and ensure that this area is closed down as a home base for the Taliban and al Qaeda," she added.
Musharraf has not allowed U.S. troops to enter Pakistan in pursuit of al Qaeda suspects.
He is fighting a growing insurgency in the so-called tribal areas like North and South Waziristan. The New York Times reported last week that despite Musharraf's declaration of emergency rule, the Taliban have increased the territory they hold in those areas and are expanding into new areas.
On NATO troop numbers, MacDonald told CTV Newsnet that "Canada is doing more than its fair share (in Afghanistan)" and praised the job this country's soldiers are doing there.
However, other countries have to both increase their troop numbers and allow them to fight, she said.
Defence Minister Peter MacKay dismissed the Senlis report, saying it was "not credible."
But Bob Rae, the Liberals' foreign affairs critic, said the report should be taken seriously.
With the porous border between Afghanistan and Pakistan -- and with a recent UN report indicating that suicide bombers were coming from Pakistan -- "the security situation is obviously very much a concern," he told reporters in Ottawa on Wednesday.
"I think it's important for Canadians to come to grips with just how tough the situation is."
Military analyst Col. Mike Capstick told Mike Duffy Live that the Senlis report is on the right track, although not entirely correct in its analysis.
"I think an extra 40,000 (NATO troops) may be too many, and I'm a bit concerned that they didn't talk very much in the report about training the Afghan national security forces," Capstick said.
'Combat aid', narcotics
Senlis wants to see "combat aid agencies" established in the south of Afghanistan, thus putting the British and Canadian militaries in charge of aid delivery.
"The delivery of food and development aid by the British and Canadian militaries would be a huge boost to the hearts and minds campaign of both governments in southern Afghanistan," MacDonald said.
"This would be an excellent counter-insurgency strategy -- strengthening ties with the local communities, which is the only viable way to defeat the insurgency in Afghanistan."
Senlis has long supported encouraging Afghan farmers to grow opium poppies but for the production of medical morphine, which it claims is in short supply globally.
As part of its Poppies for Medicine initiative, something the European Parliament endorsed last month, Senlis outlined specifications for a pilot project to test the benefits of legal morphine production by Afghan farmers.
The U.S. government wants to see the poppy crop controlled by aerially spraying herbicides -- something Afghanistan's President Hamid Karzai opposes.
"Chemical spraying of farming communities would mean we lose any hope of ever winning back the hearts and minds of the Afghan people. It would spell utter disaster for NATO's stabilization mission in the country," said Jorrit Kamminga, Senlis's Paris-based head of policy research.
Last week, the UN Office on Drugs and Crime said the value opium production in Afghanistan is equivalent to about 53 per cent of the country's legal economic output.
Antonio Maria Costa, the agency's executive director, called on NATO to take a more active role in counter-narcotics operations.
"Since drugs are funding the insurgency, NATO has a self-interest in supporting Afghan forces in destroying drug labs, markets and convoys. Destroy the drug trade and you cut off the Taliban's main funding source," he said.
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.








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The Big Jay
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Lou
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Unfortunately, western society does not have the stomach to do what is necessary. I argee that the effort should switch to PAK. But officially, they are an ally of the GWOT so that will never happen.
Don J
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Greg from Kitchener
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Doubling the force will also be a great idea, but should be done by other NATO countries and not the U.S. as they are doing most of the work In Iraq and Afghanistan.
Robert
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Bruce
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Derek
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Please..time for a reality check.
Julia
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Destroying the poppy crop is a western PR scam by politicians. "oh look we are fighting drug trafficing!" To the Afghan farmer when you burn his crop you are taking his livelihood and food from his family. This is why ISAF has nothing to do with poppy eradication. If we could give them an alternative that makes as much money such as harvesting for medicinal purposes would be the best route.
Moving into Pakistan, again, will give the impression that we want to control the Arab world and that Pakistan is just next on our list. Tightening border security with more troops and working with the Pakistani military with airstrikes on key Taliban facilities.
DK
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Denise
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Greg from Kitchener
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Andrew McFarlane
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A Soldiers Dad
Lindsay Ontario.
mike
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ray edmonton
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Join the army and go over there".
BTW I've been there twice and we will never win.
Ottawa Man
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GW
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The Israelis couldn’t do it in Lebanon, the Russians couldn’t do it in Afghanistan, the US and Britain aren’t doing it in Iraq and that’s not even the tip of the iceberg.
G. R. Warren
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Cheryl
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Elly
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All of NATO should step up to the plate and stop being a bunch of cowards, some not even allowed out at nights!
It should be revamped and the mission for nato
should be "rotation" so the same nato troops are not always in the dangerous areas.these countries have huge populations-Pakistan-165 million,
Afghanistan-32 million
Iran 65 million and Iraq
about 29 million. Most of these countries are the size of ONE of our provinces and when you think of our whole country at 32 million those figures are staggering!!While a lot of them are really good people the population of these countries is worrying b/c the bad guys stick guns in their kids hands at 12 and Musharraf gives the insurgents and radicals safe haven, while receiving billions of dollars from the US etc and why b/c he is simply a dictator in disguise who holds the world hostage so to speak with the nuke cards he holds and b/c of that he is all we have bewteen us and the nukes. Bottom line is, this threat is not going away any too soon.
Anne M
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JDS
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Bombing them back to the stone-age will have little effect...they are already in the stone-age. Perhaps a Marshall Plan is in order; overwhelming military and economic presence for 50 years. It seemed to have turned Germany and Japan around and eliminated both those fascist threats permanently from the global security situation.
Russell
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B. Gray
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1) There has to be an increase in troops in Afghanistan, period. To hand this back to the Taliban is to hand them their victory over all of the Superpowers; we will watch their attacks multiply as well as their numbers grow.
2) If you invade Pakistan, you could stop the Taliban OR you could destabilize (completely) a country with Nuclear weapons. Beyond that if NATO goes to war with Pakistan, then I believe you will see the start of WWIII. It would not take much for Iran to be allied with yet another nation under attack, and then you have a fight across Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan & Pakistan. Which side would the other countries in the region support? Dangerous situation.
3) As much as we can believe that WWII lead to years of peace afterwards, in many aspects it too only lead to more war. The UN carved up the middle east, and that has only fueled conflicts and wars throughout that region ever since. The Korean war was the US versus Russia & China through North & South Korea - and that almost lead to WWIII. Same with Vietnam - communism vs Capitalism - West vs. East. Big players involved, and not always as "coldly" as we are lead to believe.
M
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"...kill them all...it's the only way to win"
Gern Blansten
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- Malalai Joya, member of the Afghan parliament
Doug Daum
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One of those questions that makes you wonder...has anyone figured out where the Taliban are getting their weapons from, the Russians only left so much, so which country)s) are supplying the guns, RPG's, etc.
hollinm
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ance
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It is the average Afghan citizen that has the greatest potential to improve or destroy the long term stability of their nation.
We need to do several things to help us on this front.
1. Have greater respect for innocent Afghan lives during armed conflicts. They are not going to accept that it is OK that a coalition air raid killed 8 children because they also got 10 Taliban. It doesn't matter whose fault this is...it only matters that innocents died and we were involved. Telling these desperate people that we are killing them because the Taliban are deliberately putting civilians in harms way is just empty words to someone mourning their children. We need to do more to prevent civilian casualties.
2. Tell the U.S. to keep out with the agent orange and offer poppy farmers contracts to produce legitmate medical products. Some may still farm for illegal purposes but at least we will be offering some alternative and I'm sure many will comply as long as they can feed their families.
3. Stop supporting warlords and others that are no better than the Taliban. Let's be more sure about who we are calling "friend" at this point in time. Some of these people will not long support us once it no longer serves their narrow purposes and they will not really contribute to a positive future for Afghanistan.
AGB
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More troops are needed yes, but the Taliban having the capability of gaining control of Kabul.... where has journalism gone to, and when can we expect stories that hold facts and are worth reading to return?
NCL
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For example, Julia thinks Afghanistan and Pakistan are Arabic. They are not.
Another example is GW where he thinks Israel was in Lebanon to force a regime change when the reality of it was they entered Lebanon to create a buffer zone to stop attacks on the homeland and drive out Hezbollah guerrilas. On top of this, GW believes that the Soviets were in Afghanistan fighting for the same causes we are, fighting an unsupported enemy even. Again, simply not the case.
No wonder people disapprove of the mission, they are so blind and ignorant as to what goes on and what history demonstrates. No amount of wishful thinking is going to change reality. Plenty of wishful thinking will cloud people's perceptions of reality however.
Faramir
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By the way WE are not creating the Taliban. Pakistan is a poor nation and the only way to have children educated is to release them to the Islamist run schools, who on top of their ABCs, teach JIhad.
Tom Langford
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This war is un-winnable fighting it this way time to get out!
HINT!!!: You cannot fight and win a gentlemans war especially when the enemy is not visable time to get serious OUT GET OUT!
EW
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David Dawson
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Uwe Warkholdt, Elliot Lake, Northern Ontario
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When the USA wanted to attack Iraq instead of finishing their job in Afghanistan first, the rest of the nations should have given the ball back to them. After all the UN Inspectors said Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction. But then again, I am ashamed to say it, but I believe that Iraq has oil and Afghaniston has none. After thousands of people were murdered in cold blood on 9/11 what a horrible thing to believe. However, I cannot help but wonder.
Jen
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WE MUST SUPPORT OUR TROOPS-WE MUST DO SO BY CONDEMNING THE TALIBAN AND THEIR ATROCITIES-
CONSTANT FAVOURITISM AND CONCERN FOR THE TALIBAN's RIGHTS TO FAIR TREATMENT AND NOT TO THE INNOCENT PEOPLE, ONLY TELLS THE TALIBAN THAT WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE INNOCENT PEOPLE' RIGHTS TO A 'FREE LIVE' SO WHY SHOULD THE TALIBAN STOP KILLING AND THE MORE YOU DEMAND THE TROOPS HOME INSTEAD OF SUPPORTING THEM, AGAIN, THE TALIBAN WILL DO THE JOB FOR YOU BY SENDING THE TROOPS EITHER IN A COFFIN OR MAIMED.
WE MUST SUPPORT THE TROOPS AND NATO FORCES WE MUST HELP THEM BY SHOWING POSITIVE ACTION.
NO MORE NEGATIVITY FROM THE POLITICIANS MEDIA,(THIS IS HOW TERRORIST BREED AND LIVE BY).
THE PEOPLE OF AFGHANISTAN ARE COUNTING THE HOURS BEFORE THE BLOODBATH IN THE ARENA TAKES PLACE.
Please do not this happen again.
God Bless all troops, May He continue to give them the inner strength and Will to carry on to free His people from terror.
Jim in the West
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If we employed the same bizarre "Rules of Engagement" that Western troops are currently governed by, we would have lost WWI and WWII. Battles are fought by soldiers, but wars are fought by people. When one side or the other is sufficently beaten, the war is over, and we move on to the rebuilding.
As much as it angers memebers of my family, we understand why Germany firebombed Coventry, attacked civilian transports in the Atlantic, and tried to pound London - a civilian city - in to dust. They were trying to break the people.
As much as it saddens members of my family, we understand why we firebombed Dresden, and why we nuked Japan. We were fighting to win, and we did, because the the people on the other side of the line couldn't withstand the punishment.
The West has forgotten the fundementals of war, and for that I am truly afraid.
GW
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The fact is what we're currently doing is exactly what they were hoping for. Provoke the squeamish west into a conflict against us. Stir the pot (change the status quoi in the Middle East), create kayos and when the west has had its fill and backs out we’ll come out on top.
God bless our troops for doing such a great job but our government needs to wake up. We can’t get into these things at half mast. It’s all or nothing.
Aaron
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To a different poster: Numbers do matter. If you don't believe numbers matter, then you believe Rambo could do it all himself. There is a collossal difference between a brigade, a division or even an army.
David
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Kevin
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Just my opinion, I got back from there in august.
Gary B
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Chris
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