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Date: Mon. Oct. 29 2007 10:41 PM ET
Finance Minister Jim Flaherty's fall fiscal update is expected to fulfill an election promise to cut the GST to five per cent, CTV News has learned.
Flaherty has said he'll give the update at 4 p.m. ET after the markets close, perhaps indicating that it contains several major tax reductions.
"Well, we certainly feel that Canadians pay too much tax," he told reporters.
Analysts said the GST cut could be timed for the holiday season, and would also be aimed at keeping Canadians from shopping in the U.S. to take advantage of a strong loonie.
After the GST cut, a $30,000 car would cost $300 less, and Canadians would save 50 cents on a $50 Christmas tree.
"It's one percentage point less in taxes than you would otherwise pay, and you see it up immediately the minute the rate comes off," Jeff Rubin, chief economist for CIBC World Markets, told CTV News.
Liberal Leader Stephane Dion said Monday he would prefer income tax cuts rather than reducing the GST.
"Compared with income tax cuts, a GST cut does nothing to improve our competitiveness in the world economy and does little to improve the fairness of our tax system, improve our productivity and move our economy forward," he said in a statement.
"The experts are united against a GST cut and we Liberals agree with them. It seems there is only one person who studied economics that wants to cut the GST -- and his name is Stephen Harper."
The government promised in its Oct. 16 throne speech that it would reduce the GST, and likely has the spending room to cut income taxes as well.
Last week, the department announced it had built up an $8.7 billion budgetary surplus in the first five months of this fiscal year.
"The government can easily afford it," said Rubin. "They are probably looking at another $15-billion-plus surplus. The GST cut is somewhere around $5 billion.
Dion has suggested he wouldn't topple the government over a GST cut, although he hasn't given a firm answer, while the NDP would likely oppose any major business tax reductions.
Flaherty wanted to present the fiscal update in the House of Commons -- another possible hint it will include major tax cuts -- but the NDP hasn't given its consent.
"If I can't do it in the House of Commons because of the NDP, then I'll do it somewhere else," Flaherty told reporters.
When former prime minister Paul Martin was a Liberal finance minister, he presented his fiscal updates in front of the government's finance committee.
Liberal whip Karen Redman dismissed the government's move to deliver the update on the floor of the House as a publicity stunt.
"We see Mr. Harper looking for maximum media coverage, and to ratchet up the expectations of Canadians to create some drama that isn't necessarily there," she told CTV's Mike Duffy Live.
Along with shaving another percentage point from the GST, Flaherty is also considering income splitting for all Canadian couple. The move would likely cost the government $5 billion.
He may also scrap the mid-range 26 per cent tax bracket and trim the lowest bracket to 15 per cent.
With a report by CTV's Robert Fife and files from The Canadian Press
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.


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Roch
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Canada has never looked so good.
Scott
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Greg
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Michael
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Given the surplus from OVERTAXATION of Canadians it wouldn't be prudent to increase any taxes to individuals at this time. Governments act as if it is THEIR money in the budget surplus... it BELONGS TO CANADIANS not the politicians nor bureaucrats and they would be wise to regard it in that light.
Richard
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Ron
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J. L.
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Annie
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Goodness knows we all could use some tax relief.
Micheal
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SaskDave
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D.R. - Calgary
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Dean
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Ken
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Kevin
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Terry
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They aren't spending LIBERAL money. They are spending Canadians' money.
PJ
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Mark K
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I am looking for a volunteer to help Dion remove his foot from his mouth :-)
John
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janet
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this is all the work of the previous government,
NOT the current year old conservative govt
...in fact we may not look so good anymore if we continue to spend on overseas military missions, cut the (does-nothing-for-the-economy)GST, slash funding to social programs that keep communities prosperous and safe, slash funding to environmental programs, and spend millions on jail sentences that are already proven not to work in the U.S.
Mike
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I think econmically and taxation wise, Canada will be a stronger country with no debt rather than a couple thousand saved in taxes and us wasting billions in interest.
LM
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Bryant Wood
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Sean Calder
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It seems the Liberals have a problem with people keeping promises. That promises are a thing to compromise in favor of something more popular. But then they have an obvious track record on breaking promises.
And don't kidd yourself. If the Conservatives failed to keep that promise before the next election, the Liberals would showcase it as a promise broken. Can't win with those darned Liberals eh? Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
And while yes, in order to benefit from that tax cut, you need to spend money, but the last time I checked, I HAVE to spend money every single month through bills and services and a whole variety of other spending I'm required to do. I'll be saving money there for certain, and will enjoy it!
Andrew MacKendrick
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Steve
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So to cut personal, corporate and GST taxes will benefit everyone... and stimulate the economy, all at the same time. I wish the doubting-Thomases would open their minds to this plain truth.
Couver
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Income splitting acrss the board!
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MR. MINISTER, BE A HERO - SIMPLIFY OUR TAX SYSTEM. Reduce the paper burden, eliminate the oppressive tax regime. Save $$.
Raymond
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Bill from NS
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Mark
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debbie
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Al
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David
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And you say the Liberals have trouble keeping promises?? I think you need to open your eyes here, pal. Harper has lied more in 2 years than the Liberals ever did.
Roch
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NOT the current year old conservative govt"
No, this has nothing to do with AdScam illegal advertising making Liberals rich or billion dollar boondoggles, this has everything to do with our New Clean Canadian Government!
It is very nice to once again be Proud to be Canadian! Look at our mighty Conservative looney soar....
Hopeful
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Fredh
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Let's all enjoy this while commodities prices are so high because what goes up must come down (the question is when and how low)
In view of all this, let's enjoy any tax break we get tomorrow on the next budget, we deserve it.
Richard
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Anyone who complains that a few billion surplus is robbery is not very money wise. As Kevin mentioned, the budget was desgined many months in advance. Second, the only time we make payments on the debt is when there is a surplus. Finally, any responsible budgeting would have a 'cushion' for unforseen negative events. Canada has been experiencing massive 'good times' and therefore is producing surpluses because of responsible budgeting.
P.S. Dean; compare the lowest federal tax bracket for 2005 to 2007. You'll quickly observe that the rates were raised by 0.5% to 15.5% (or 0.25% per year - which is a 3.3% overall increase in that bracket!). That is the tax bracket that hurts our country's poorest the most. How can you claim that the Conservatives have reduced the tax burden?
Steve
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-Oh, really?
I recall the Liberals promised to "scrap, kill, abolish" the GST... and didn't. A Big Lie if ever they told one, which they didn't, for they told many.
The Tories promised to cut the GST twice, by one point at a time... and have already gone halfway there and appear poised to fulfil the other half of the promise very soon. Big contrast!
And, come on... what lies? I can't think of any Tory lies at all. Liberal lies, however... where to start, eh? Oh, I started with the GST lie!
james
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Well done Mr Harper. The federal government has more than enough money to take care of federal spending priorities (defence, public safety, prisons, fisheries) and there is going to be a proper funding base for the provinces to manage their responsibilities: welfare, health, education, and infrastructure.
A final reversal of the Trudeau "federalist dream".
Rob
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I would much rather have that 1% of the GST dedicated solely to health care or education than it be reduced. That 1% only helps rich people who are making larger purchases. Lower incomes will not see the benefits, and on many of the necessities they buy (like food and clothing) to not even get taxed GST. Do what's socially responsible, not just economical!"
Hello McFly, again for the millionth time, Health and Education are provincial responsibilities. Get your facts straight
Deepthinker
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A Liberal election promise is far differnt from a tax cut. The GST cut gave mroe to everyone than the 0.5% on $10 000 anyways.
"solving the softwood lumber deal while giving the US a backout clause?"
You see it is funny because I remember Paul Martin demanding that a deal could be reached is the Americans gave 3.4 Billion, which he did not get back and the Conservatives got 4 Billion so I think that we got a pretty good deal.
"allowing MPs to vote with their conscience"
I know you probably are not all up on parliamentry tradition but the party has said all the way back to reform that there should be free votes *EXCEPT* on the budget for obvious reasons. The Conservatives have had many free votes including on SSM which I believe the Liberals whipped and lost 7-8 MP's from their party for.
"pay down the debt"
To put some things in perspective the Conservative government has paid down half as much of the debt as the Liberals did in 18 months then the liberals did in 13 years.
So the moral of this story is that our Conservative Government is Responsible, Honourable and Strong. Thats a heck of a lot more than we can say about the sinking Liberal ship with "Not A Leader" Dion!
Bob G
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Sean is bang on.
The conservatives never promised not to change "Income Trusts". They simply said they had no "plans" to change it. It was never a major part of their platform and was hardly discussed during the campaign. Several major companies decided to try and take advantage of this by switching to Income Trusts drastically altering the playing field.Because of this the government was forced to act and did so in a timely and responsible even though they had no "plans" to do so before these companies forced them. Broken promise....No..responsible action.
"Raised taxes" ...again no...my taxes did not go up from the previous year. They eliminated a proposed minor Liberal tax decrease which would have benefited a few Canadians and replaced it with a 1% reduction in the GST (as they promised) which at least benefited all Canadians. Plus the other targeted tax reductions they promised and delivered.
I seem to recall the Liberals vowing to eliminate the GST. After 13 years I was still waiting.
"Soft Wood Lumber Deal"...They promised action and they did it. It may not be perfect but they accomplished more in a few short month than the Liberals did in years.
"MPs allowed to vote with their conscious"...They have also done this but anyone with an ounce of brains must realize this does not apply to confidence bills which could bring down the government.
Now shall we go into a few other promises kept eg. tougher on crime...Legislation tabled but not yet passed....promise kept....improve our military...increasing manpower, improved equipment, improved infrastructure...promise kept.....Arctic sovereinty....new deep water port announced...new patrol boats announced ( sorry not the icebreakers), increase in the Rangers...promise basically kept.
Now shall we look look at the Liberals record after 13 years? Promise to eliminate the GST...hmmm....promise to replace the Sea King helicopters faster and cheaper than the Conservative programme they cancelled at a cost of $500 million to the Canadian taxpayer. I haven't seen one yet have you? And when they finally do arrive they will be more expensive.
Heck there isn't enough space here to go on.
Frank
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DAP
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Are afraid of something?
Why is Dion against the cutting of the GST?
Chretien was all set to eliminate the GST altogether, and his back room boys are running the show in the Liberal Party now.
Oh, I forgot, Chretien never kept his word, he only wrote a red covered book about it.
Pathetic!!
freadadviser
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Andy in Cambridge
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"Myself, I'd rather see increased debt payments than tax cuts."
The government is making debt payments. Since the Harper government took office they've paid down over 15 billion dollars on the debt. And if they feel they can continue doing that, and cut my taxes at the same time, then I'm all for it!
Doug
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Having said that,I am concerned about increses in government spending also.THis economy and the high dollar will not go on forever.
And,as I pointed out in aother posting,the last time we saw a dollar this high,Canada had virtually no debt, budgets were almost always balanced,and "tax freedom day" was somewhere near the end of March. Not early July.
We have a long ways to go,my friends.
BW
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Mr. Martin had proposed lowering the rate from 16 to 15.5. The Cons. in their first budget kept the rate to were it was previously and instead lowered the G.S.T. Quite frankly this reduction benefits everyone even low income earners. Or do they not spend any money?
Lance
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Rob
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"The Harper government pays more attention to propaganda - instead of poor people. They cut the GST for its max media coverage effect, yet quietly raised the personal income tax last year (reduced by Liberals before the election), and made tax return more of a pain."
Really? Do you think that was an honest reduction by Martin or a way to try to buy votes to salvage a pathetic campaign mined with scandals and thievery? do the math. Tax cuts are on their way.
Richard
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As you correctly noted, I said increase.
In 2005-2006, only budget surpluses went to paying the debt.http://www.fin.gc.ca/taxdollar06/text/html/taxdollar06_e.html
Chapter 5 of budget 2007 (http://www.budget.gc.ca/2007/bp/bpc5ae.html) states that debt payments of $3 billion should be planned annually. At that rate, it will take 167 years to pay down the ~$500 billion debt. Budget surpluses, are extra payments that help to pay it down further, and more quickly. The nature of supluses are that they are not planned.
If we can avoid tax cuts now in order to pay down more of the debt, the result will be much, much bigger tax cuts in the future.
An amoritization period of 167years is downright irresponsible.
P.S. For all the political yahoo's out there ... I do not care which goverment did what. Paying down the debt is the responsible thing to do. Tax cuts are short sighted. And please do not tell me that our economy needs a boost; unemployment is currently very low and our dollar is flying high. The economy is doing great and therefore we should use our current prosperity to pay back/prepare for those hard times, both past and future.
Kathy
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steve
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James
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Andy In Cambridge
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I agree Lance, smacks of Liberal entitlement to me!
shayne
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Joseph
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"It was under Mr. Harper that income taxes were RAISED to pay for his GST cut."
That is a complete fallacy, sorry. The Government cancelled a 0.5 percent decrease in income tax for one particular tax bracket, a decrease that had not even come into effect at the time of it's cancellation. That hardly counts as raising income taxes.
I've also heard someone else on here stating that the GST cut is a tax cut for the rich; this is rubbish. Those in the poorest tax bracket spend most of their money on items taxed by the GST and therefore end up benefitting from it the most.
David in Ontario
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John K
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And to those who think 1% doesn't make a difference, well actually it does.
Marc
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Bill Gerdson
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D Daigle
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Scott Buckshot
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Jon
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Moe
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tony
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Mark
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Also some working poor people (earning less than 18000) pay no income taxes so for them any cuts are pointless.
I'm not in either boat but just pointing it out that it does not "favour only the rich."
Joyce Conley
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We have been overtaxed and it is good to see the GST being pared down, incidently Chretien campaigned on getting rid of the GST remember, but he knew it was too good a haul, and so Chretien did break his promise.
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