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Date: Tue. Oct. 23 2007 11:13 PM ET

Finance Minister Jim Flaherty said distributors and retailers should lower prices "as soon as possible" to reflect a soaring Canadian dollar, and held up a copy of the latest Harry Potter book as an example of how some items are still much cheaper in the U.S.

Flaherty's comments followed what he called a "frank and open discussion" with industry members Tuesday.

"My message was clear: now that the Canadian dollar is at par with the United States dollar, I strongly urge Canadian distributors, wholesalers and retailers to reduce prices for Canadian consumers," he said.

Flaherty said he looked at a copy of the recent Harry Potter book in Washington this past weekend, which was selling for US$29.74 before tax. He came back to Ottawa and purchased the Canadian version, which was $36 before tax.

"It's a price difference of more than 20 per cent. And the actual price, as printed on the covers, is $45 for the Canadian version and $34.99 for the American version," he said.

Harry Potter is distributed in Canada by Vancouver-based Raincoast Books, and Scholastic in the U.S.

The Canadian dollar closed the day at 103.51 cents US.

"Retailers tell me that there are lag times with respect to inventory that was priced before the dollar reached parity," he said.

"They told me there are also additional costs, which is accurate, for doing business in Canada, such as higher freight costs, additional costs for translation, and higher brokerage tariffs.

"I appreciate that, and I understand that prices cannot be lowered overnight, and that Canadian and U.S. prices may never be identical because of some of those unique differences. But the Canadian dollar has been on an upward trajectory for several years now, and there has been a significant period of time to adjust."

Diane Brisebois, of the Retail Council of Canada, said Flaherty should help retailers by cutting duties collected at the border.

"If you bring in sneakers from China, for example, retailers in Canada pay 18 per cent taxes. Retailers in the U.S. pay absolutely nothing," she said.

Representatives from Wal-Mart Canada, Hudson's Bay Co., Toys R' Us, Staples Inc. and Forzani Group Ltd. were all in Ottawa to meet with Flaherty.

Home Depot Canada spokesperson Harry Taylor said his company was already working hard to cut prices.

"We're going everything we can, both within our merchandising organization but also with our vendor community, to make sure that we are absolutely competitive," he told CTV News.

Wal-Mart Canada said that the company had its "best-ever year of price reductions."

In a press release, the company said it has been negotiating with suppliers for more than a year to have wholesale prices better reflect the strengthening Canadian dollar.

"Canadians are not satisfied, Wal-Mart Canada is not satisfied, and negotiations continue," Mario Pilozzi, Wal-Mart Canada's president and CEO, said in the release.

"We are the agent for our customers, and will continue to work proactively with suppliers to negotiate lower prices. We are committed to turning our negotiations into many pleasant surprises for our customers between now and the New Year."

On Friday, Hudson's Bay Co. announced it would reduce prices on items at nearly 300 Zellers discount department stores.

Additional factors

Still, some industry experts note that the exchange rate is only one factor on the price differentials between products sold in Canada and the U.S.

John Williamson, federal director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, sent a letter to Flaherty yesterday arguing that price parity is impossible.

"Our economy has more costly regulations and higher taxes and until this is changed, Canadians cannot expect price parity with the U.S., which has a more dynamic, lower taxed, less regulated and therefore less costly market," Williamson wrote.

"Canada cannot have radically higher minimum wages, higher business taxes and more costly regulations and suppose prices will be the same on both sides of the border."

Williamson told CTV Newsnet on Tuesday that Crown corporations and "government monopolies" should be held to the same standard as Canadian retailers.

"It's not the private market that sets the toll fares across the Canada-U.S. borders, which are still charging much more in Canadian dollars," Williamson said.

"I haven't noticed prices coming down at the liquor monopolies and Canada Post just increased its price of mail going to the U.S. despite the huge increase in the loonie."

Williamson said the Canadian economy remains much less efficient than the American economy due to "costly imputs" imposed on businesses by the government that weren't noticed when the dollar was lower.

"Mr. Flaherty's position would be strengthened immensely if he said, for example, we're going to cut employment insurance taxes right away for employers to allow them to pass these savings on to consumers. Lead by example and then he can go out and beat up some of the retailers," Williamson said.

Economists estimate that Canadians may be paying as much as 20 per cent more than Americans for similar products sold in the U.S.

Some U.S. auto retailers and Bombardier dealers have been told not to sell to Canadians, in order to protect dealers north of the border.

Canadian Auto Workers president Buzz Hargrove said Tuesday that dealers will be forced to lower prices if consumer pressure remains strong.

With a report by CTV's David Akin and files from The Canadian Press

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Edb
said

Instead of begging retailers, why not raise the exemption at the border, allow Canadians to bring home $2000 worth of goods on a 24 hr trip, and force Canadian retailers to compete. The days of the artificially low Liberal loonie are over. Compete or go under. Before you all say that it's only good for people near the border, understand that I'm only 45 minutes away, so I hope you'll forgive my bias.


Diane
said

And while we are at it let's have a change in the amount charged at the border to get back into Canada. We came back at Fort Erie yesterday and the charge was $3.00 American or $3.50 Canadian. We paid the $3.00 U.S. It just isn't fair.


Brent
said

Mr. Flaherty should start at the wholesalers/suppliers and then monitor retailers to ensure that price reductions at that level are reflected at the retail level.


Mau
said

Maybe Flaherty might look at his own house before putting a pox on retailers. The feds are guilty in this through duty and import charges. The retailers are buying from suppliers who haven't reduced price. Mr. Flaherty needs to get a firmer understanding of how pricing works before mouthing off at retailers. Mr. Flaherty would be a much better finance minister if he stood up for what Conservatives are supposed to... the free market. Prices will correct themselves without the need for a populist approach to our markets. Pretty bad when a liberal has to bring this up.


Walt Lindgren
said

Auto and recreational vehicle manufacturers like Bombardier have enjoyed big government bail outs, so they have no right to tell us where we can or cannot buy. It was our tax dollars that bailed them out. Time to stop the protectionism!!!!


Eric
said

I am glad the finance minister has at least made his feelings very known and had some consultations on this. It is not up to the government to force, but to persuade. This in conjunction with consumers speaking with their wallets and voicing their displeasure will make a difference.

Good job Mr. Flaherty.


Phil VT
said

I called my MP and asked what the Canadian Government was going to do about the disparity in pricing for retail goods (specifically automobiles) and was told that it's not government's job to interfere with the free market.

Well excuse me but what's free about not being allowed to cross the border to purchase a car? Is that free trade? Not free trade for me - that's for sure. I guess free trade only applies if it benefits big business - who cares about Joe Sixpack....


Mike
said

Well...I don't mind paying a little more (due to taxes, etc) but I don't want to be gouged when it comes time to pay. If the companies are paying a little less for their inventory then they should pass this savings to the consumer. I don't blame the companies as they are there to make a profit. They will sell their product according to what the consumers want to pay. If we want to pay less then we need to put on the pressure.


Lex P.
said

I fully agree. Remove all limits at the border, regardless of length of stay. More importantly, write your MP to demand this.


James
said

Edb

First of all the loonie was not low because of the Liberal government. You should take a degree in economics to understand that the only reason our dollar is on the rise is because the American economy is soft. It will not stay like this.

Secondly, Canadians pay way to much for the exact same product in the States. You solution would not fix the problem- in fact it would not really help anyone except for yourself.


fed up with dumb consumers
said

Increasing the personal limit will do nothing to help the Canadian retailer. Those who think that prices should be at par just because the dollar is are living in a fool's paradise. Major differences in expenses like shipping, brokerage fees, and import duties haven't changed so prices can only go so low.

Large retailers can nickel and dime suppliers to help them cut prices, but the small to mid-sized retailers are already nickeled and dimed to death.

Enjoy your foreign purchases but don't be surprised when the Canadian small business person turns you away at the door when you want warranty work. That is, if their door is still open.



dwigget
said

The old saying "Companies don't pay taxes - consumers pay taxes" is true - as corporate taxation is a line item on the expenses sheet of a retailer, and therefore will come out in the sell price to the consumer. As the CTF stated in this article, it costs a lot of money to do business in Canada (taxes / reg's / min wage / etc.). Granted, we're a very large country with a very small population relative to our size, and so tax parity with the more population-dense USA is unlikely. But still, it needs to be realized that pro-business is often really pro-consumer. Competition drives down prices, but only when there is still a margin to be gained. No margin = no point being in business. We are one of the highest corporate tax regiemes in the world (apparantly second to China, so I heard) and it hurts Canadian individuals more than anyone else - when we shop, AND when we try to attract/retain jobs here in Canada. We need to be more competitive - it will do us more good than an artificially low dollar ever has.


Roger T
said

My friends and I are still holding off on buying anything from the major retailers until we see price changes to reflex our strong dollar. Unless these greedy corporations are willing to cut prices than we will start supporting our economy, in the end it's savings that matters over economy. No price cuts means no businesses for you!


Annoyed Canadian Consumer
said

Canadian consumers should be allowed to spend their money where they can get the "best" deal. If that means purchasing in the US so be it.

Canadian companies that continue to gouge Canadian consumers (Bombardier, Ford, GM, etc.) that restrict where Canadians can spend their money should be taken to task by the Federal Government.


The Widowmaker
said

Why is it so hard to have big business lower prices. When they raise prices they blame the low dollar. Not that that's not a factor they come up with other reasons to not lower prices. Hmmm. Me thinks something is wrong here.


Phil
said

Maybe the Finance minister should look in his own backyard first: corporate and personal taxes, the gas tax, the #1 reason for last month's big jump in the CPI. And maybe put some pressure on the provinces liquor taxes as well as supply management.

Do that and retailers won't be singing the Blues.


guppies
said

Well, people always like pointing fingers when things don't go their way.
Example, saying there's a higher tax rate in Canada. Suppliers haven't dropped the price yet, And what happens if Canadians go back to .90 ...etc.

Just look at our auto industries pricing different 20 - 30+ % for a 2008 model or more. We are talking thousands and thousands of dollars here.

If the Auto dealer worries the Canadian $ will go back to 90 cents or not par to US. Simply sell me the car in U.S dollars.

We can't count on the govt. to do things for us. If they don't drop/adjust the pricing. I go somewhere that they will. That's the bottom line.

If no one is buying, they will drop the pricing.
Another example Just look at our Lumber industries.

Well bye for now !
See you Canada. Hello border....


Christopher Rastin
said

"Why not raise the exemption at the border, allow Canadians to bring home $2000 worth of goods on a 24 hr trip, and force Canadian retailers to compete?"

"low Liberal loonie are over"

Are you serious?? I don't have time to acknowledge the first statement - but the second "low liberal loonie"?? My friend - it was the Liberal governance of the 90's that provided the economic situation we have today. Don't tell me you think two years of Tory minority governments has shifted our economy into the power house we have today...? It's rather easy to ride the tide of the Liberal financial success record.


Theresa Ruhnke
said

I have to say that the biggest beef for me is the price of books in Canada. For years we have been paying sometimes 30 to 40% more than the US, even when our Loonie was at 80 cents, not on par like it is now. We should pay the same price as the US on books. Don't we think it is a good social policy to encourage literacy by paying a fair price for books?


guppies
said

Well, I read thru. every single comments.
The bottom line is no one will willing to pay higher price if you know where to get it cheaper. One comment says the small business companies will get hurt.
And is doesn't matter you can't win anyway if you're selling the same products that futureshop, bestbuy...etc carry too.
That's the fact of life.
Why ? I usually purchase TVs from a small store that I know for years. But how can I give him my business that he is trying to sell to me which is the same model and 20% higher cost. And have to wait for 2 weeks for shipping.

Other comment - we can bring most autos in from the States to Canada. But there is paper work to process. The problem is some auto manufactures don't allow the dealership in the States to sell to Canadians.
Why ? go figure yourself.

If the Americans can do it. Why not us.


Jim Wilson
said

The answer is very simple, but people think it has to do with government or 'big business'. The answer is 'stop consuming' products... TV's computers, cars, all the big ticket stuff. In one week of businesses having no sales you would see things drop dramatically, but we as consumers keep on buying and yet still complain at the same time that we are being ripped off. It won't work, just stop buying stuff and retailers and alike will make the move, or they suffer. It's simply supply and demand, no demand and the prices drop.
Jim



Aaron in Toronto
said

I don't think I need an Economics course but rather a Math class to help me understand the current issue. First of all, to be fair, we as Canadians should not ask for parity pricing. However, what we should ask for is fairless. I do not recall any major change or increase in terms of tariffs or import taxes. So if an item cost me $0.99 when the Canadian $ is worth US$0.60 then why is the same product still costing me $0.99 right now. Please note, our $0.60 was way back in what 2005? and this is the end of 2007 and do Wal-Mart or other Canadian retailers stock up for 2 yrs?


hthrmal
said

If there was an overall 5% difference in our currencies before and now we're at parity, I wouldn't expect price changes. But when the difference was 30% and now currencies go to parity, I expect some savings!

I don't expect or want price parity with the U.S. I wouldn't take their prices/tax structures in exchange for their social and healthcare safety not/net.


Kev
said

Free trade.
We get to pay world market price for our own oil and gas when we are a producer. Cars are cheaper in the US? Our market is 10% of the US market; ever hear of volume pricing? Get real folks, this article is just like the 'rising' loonie, an artificial product being 'sold' to a consumer. You either pay or you don't, that's the way our world works today. Whining about the cost solves nothing. Expect the government to make to world 'fair'...ha!


BlbGfls
said

Instead of begging retailers, why not raise the exemption at the border, allow Canadians to bring home $2000 worth of goods on a 7 day trip, that way, it would still put the pressure where it belongs.

It would also afford travellers in other countries to avail of local items as well


Vince M.
said

The strength of the dollar isn't phasing the auto companies (yet).

I emailed Toyota asking why a 2008 Highlander Sport 4WD in Canada costs $46,900 and in the US costs $32,085. Exactly the same vehicle.

To date, no response.



Vince M.
said

To whining importers and retailers complaining their costs are higher (taxes, duties, shipping).

The taxes are the same, the duties are the same and the shipping is the same as it was several months ago. The difference is you can buy more US imports with the same amount of money meaning you can sell for less if you want and still make the same profit.

Of course, if you don't want to, the consumer should not be chastized for seeking to do your job for you. And they certainly should not be *stopped* from seeking a better deal in the US as the auto manufacturers are trying to do.




Drew
said

I recently made a large purchase at a Canadian retailer, and then discovered the same item priced 50% less at an US retailer a day later. Living on the border I find this is almost typical, and I have decided to stop all major purchases in Canada. My groceries will be next.


Johnny Canuck
said

Out of all our good dollar questions, this issue strikes me the most, "Some U.S. auto retailers and Bombardier dealers have been told not to sell to Canadians, in order to protect dealers north of the border. "

Should this not be legal? Discrimination of customers based from their geographic location? Hmm, did we impose such laws when our dollar was so low? I think it's absoultely disgusting that the US dealers are being told to do that, and I hope that people choose not to purchase anything north or south of the border with companies that do that.


Tommy Gunn
said

Just a little shortsighted aren't we?
Keep shopping in the US, forcing companies that can't compete to close up shop or lay off staff. In some cases I might agree, but in most cases I don't. For the long term if companies close, people lose jobs. How will you shop then?
Are economy is strong lets not sabotage it.
Use some common sense.
But I guess if you can afford to run across the border and buy a car,or other high end merchandise, I guess money is not an issue.
And if money is not an issue then your just cheap.



David
said

There is no way I can be led to believe that the manufacturers the importers and the retailers and our own government are not all making good money of the strong dollar. All at the exspense of the average Canadian. Nevermind the economic models or costing charts. The dollar is stronger...it buys more. Just not in Canada, and unless we make them hurt for trying to rip us off things will not change.


Roch
said

Excellent leadership by Walmart, which they are able to do since they don't have unionists weighing them down and restricting or eliminating their ability to help consumers.


jimmy
said

Rather then wait for price adjustments, shop online from American Retailers and pay the shipping and handling costs + gst. You'll still save a bundle!!!

We've ordered baby furniture, auto parts, books and just placed an order for an electrical generator that costs $2500 less in the U.S. Although there's no warranty on the generator in Canada, with the savings I can afford to buy a second one should anything go wrong.

With regards to retailers complaining that things cost more in Canada, or that their suppliers charge higher rates, or good luck with warranty work...or the best one yet, "Canadian Prices refelect the Canadian Economy" enough is enough.
Justify your prices however you want and keep your products on the shelf, my dollars will head south till there's PARITY!



Mike
said

I was wondering if the people that read this article also read what Williamson said about the costly imputs we have here in Canda rather than those in the US. We the retailer also pay higher property taxes and pay a higher minimum wage than the US. They also don't have a free health care system. Next time you shop across the border think about the extra hidden costs of doing business in Canada thanks to the government.


Sparky
said

Now let's see... The retailers are telling us that they bought their stock at a time when the Loonie was low and must use up that stock before reducing prices to reflect the present Loonie value...fair enough.
When the Loonie drops(note the word "when"), I will expect the retailers to use up their existing stock at the price that reflects the value at time of purchase. Or will they bump up the price right away? I know where my bet is!!!


Sparky
said

I wish you people would stop arguing about which political party is responsible for the ups and downs of the economy. Don't you realize that political figures are merely puppets and that the puppeteer is Bay Street? Surely you realize that the banking system in this country has and always will call the shots!


Shane
said

On what planet does a CONSERVATIVE a government dictate to the private market what prices they should be charging? This is not the role of a government it is the role of the market.

This is pure electioneering and it will backfire by exclusively benefiting the U.S. parent companies of the retailers able to more immediately offer price reductions.


Jeremy
said

It is not really reasonable at all to suggest that prices in Canada should be the same as those in the US. First, taxes are higher in Canada and regulations are stricter, but more importantly, the median household income of Canadians is much higher (around 11%) than that of Americans.

This situation is no different than the situation that has existed in Europe for many years. Europeans tend to pay much more for most products than Americans (or even Canadians) when you take into account the exchange rate, but they get paid much more, too.


Price fixers should be charged!
said

If price corrections don't occur it is because a lot of people are breaking the law!


King of Kensington
said

It's stupid for Canadians to expect prices as low as they are in the States. Business taxes are much higher here and in my neck of the woods, we have a $10 minimum wage and New York state's is $7 and change. Too many people whine about wanting a high minimum wage and gov't services then run across the border to benefit from a system with a low minimum wage and less gov't services. If the gov't cuts taxes and the minimum wage, then I'm all for cross-border shopping and parity in pricing.


Mar
said

I wish that someone who knows what they are talking about would post something here... All I know is that BIG Business Off Road Vehicle and RV manufacturers such as Bombardier are telling, if not forcing American retailers to not sell to Canadians. NUFF SAID!


Paul
said

Money talks!!! My sister just drove across the border and purchased a $55,000 (canadian) SUV from a major dealership in Portland, Oregon. She spent $37,000 includes all warranty and it's the same vehicle, I should know I work in an auto mall. The finance minister is right, it's up to consumers to get themselves the best deal.


Tim
said

Hey big shot Flaherty - put your money where your mouth is. Lower the taxes on small and medium size business which are operating on razor thin margins.


Paul
said

As a Canadain working in the retail industry for over 20+ years.

I have seen costs dropping as new products come across the border.

Everyone thinks the retailers can lower prices overnight.

The supplier might have brought in the product several weeks or months before. Maybe at 80 or 90 cents. Do you think it is fair for them to lose money on inventory? No.

We have slowly lowered our prices as the new inventory flows into our stores.

As for Walmart, they can squeeze the mjaor suppliers a little further than we can.

What has made the retail sector more competitive is the free market on the web. Look at the web sales trend over the last few years. Out pacing the retail sales growth.

Just my 2 cents.

stephen
said

Flaherty statement is pure spin of a "self fulfilling prophecy" that is already happening. The big chains have announced that they will be dropping their prices before Christmas this is more than enough pressure to make all the others follow suit. So his call is completely moot. Considering a couple of weeks ago it was a completely different story then what he spins now...

This is just a pure political spin announcement. For the politically weak minded and those who suffer from lapses of short memory to eat up..

I'm sorry nothing new here just the same hot air we've being hearing from the this government for the last two years.

Bob
said

I'm wondering how long the finance minister had this speech in the works. We've all been thinking about it. He's finally said something about it. Too bad is was about a week after Zellers (I think) said that they would be reducing prices almost across the board. I now call this...the Zeller's Plan!


larry derouin
said

We have just returned from a weekend in Vegas where they will not accept Canadian money. And when we were able to exchange at the larger hotels, we were surcharged $8.00 on every $100.00. Fraud or American arrogance?

Dave in Surrey
said

Wasting Canadian Taxpayer money the Conservative way... First, we are spending more on Defense than we did during the height of the cold war... Then our 'fearless' finance minister asks the banks to reduce service fees (Still waiting for those generous bankers to do that).. And now wasting time asking retailers to drop prices...


Ben
said

Flaherty says that he saw it cheaper in Washington, but bought it in Canada anyway. He just proved why Canadian retailers can charge a higher price than U.S. retailers: Canadians are willing to pay the higher price!


damien
said

Well Christopher, the same logic can be used about your specious argument. The liberal financial success record was paved by the tough decisions made by the Mulroney Conservatives. Have you heard of the GST and Free Trade?? Without the extra 30 Billion a year coming in from the GST, there could have been no such "liberal financial success".


GP
said

If the government isn’t going to do anything except photo-ops and sound bites for the pending election then what good are you with your enormous budget surpluses?

At least open the border so I have the option of sending my hard earned and highly taxed money where I want. The government should also drop those subsidise and tax kick backs to these company’s whose business model is based purely on greed. Its not how much is a fair profit any more, its…what is the most money we can get, and we don’t care how we do it. It’s worked for the oil, banks, and insurance companies so why not everywhere else.

This greed thing is getting completely out of hand. Would everyone please stand up and ask your MP to please get out of your pocket and do something for the average hard working taxpayer? AFTER TWENTY YEARS OF BITING THE BULLET WE NEED AND DESERVE A BREAK!!!



VJP
said

To those of you who are bent out of shape over the 'low liberal loonie' comment, you may want to look back in the history books. It was a policy position of Jean Chretien to drive down the value of the CAN dollar, although I don't like the policy it had its merits for certain segments of the economy. That was not a partisan comment. No it was not the conservatives alone who have brought the loonie back up to par, that was partially Paul Martin as well. But before telling anyone to 'take an economics course' you might want to take a history course as it was definitely Chretien's liberal government that drove the loonie down to where it was...


Max
said

Larry
"Fraud or American arrogance?"
No stupidity on your part. Why would you expect them to accept Canadian Dollars in Vegas? It ain't Canada!



shaun sturby
said

If anyone wants to see some action for retailers, gov't officials, and so on. The public needs to boycott the retailers and so on. It has to be a group action or the retailers will win. Boycott the wal-marts, and car dealerships, and so on. I agree it's hard when society needs food and other amenities but you suffer a little to gain a lot. Organization is the answer. Not meaning less demands.


norsky
said

The folks from the Retail Association of Canada seem to be satisfied when meeting with Flaherty. Another reason why the people of Canada are becoming more tuned in and satisfied with the Conservative party. I feel a majority coming on..

Chris R
said

Jeremy:

You must be dreaming! What many Canadians find insulting is that we earn less, get taxed more and have always paid substantially more (even when our dollar was trading at the $0.62 cent level) for the same goods and services as our American neighbours.

The Europeans are lucky because the introduction of their single currency, and the removal of borders and import tariffs between member states, means that consumers can shop around for the best deal. Prices across the EU are therefore completely transparent to consumers. Furthermore, a German can drive to France do some shopping and then return to Germany without having to pay any duty on the goods purchased in France and without having to stop at any border. The EU now has an internal market of more than 425 million people, which is 100 million more than the combined population of the US and Canada.

If we want to improve our living standards in this country we have to look at some kind of monetary union and tax harmonization with the US to ensure we benefit from the economies of a larger market. NAFTA has failed to achieve this and needs to be revamped if we want a fairer deal.



rick l
said

If most people stayed away from the malls
and avoided purchasing big ticket items for even 1 week, You'll see prices drop. It
will save me a trip across the border. I am
sick and tired of getting ripped off and
wait until the Christmas shopping season starts,
I will be one of the many cars heading south.

GJ
said

I have been doing some checking...same vehicle; $10,000 more in Canada than in US! Honda.ca has disappeared...can't compare their prices now...wonder why? Enough rehtoric please! We are being gouged and we know it! A little more I understand, but 20 - 30 % more? I don't think so. Let's get this fixed! Now!


JFJ
said

I recognize that Flaherty has to be seen to be doing something even though he knows he has zero power over the marketplace.

What's wrong with folks ability to make decisions for themselves?If you think you are being gouged don't buy until the price is right. Let lower demand drive prices down.

Even Buzz Hargrove has finally figured it out even though he prefers that the North American auto industry is excused from competing with foreign manufacturers.


Donald Felling
said

If the companies don't want to play fair, then let's bring back the manufacturer's tax and eliminate the GST to level the playing field.
Interesting to see where Harper's loyalties lie: consumers and families, or the corporate side.


TommyBoy
said

The truth is finally coming out. For many years the price difference between the American and Canadian goods, have been very visible! No one had paid any attention. We Canadians have been raped by the retailers all this time and we did noting. Our own Federal Government charges the silent tax (called DUTY!) on all imports into Canada (even on products from the States).
What are you going to do Canada... whine some more about price differences.
I say, everyone in Canada should charge the gates on Ottawa and demand a rebate from the Federal Government for being riped-off by the retailers of Canada and gouged by the Federal Government for all the Duty Taxes they have collected.
Or, we can just quietly go about our mundane lives and say "Oh well, what can I do about it".

DP
said

It's a shame that Finance Minister doesn't have the guts to say to the retailers: cut your crap, I don't care, just lower the prices NOW period - or else...
When it comes to us, little guys, it a whole different story. Nobody EVER asks us if we can afford a new tax, another hydro hike or one more cent per postage. We just have to accept it materoffactly. So what's so special about corporate citizens? Why, for instance, their management cannot contribute half of their annual compensation - to reduce those "additional costs"? I bet it will be billions of dollars - and I doubt it will make them starve. Easy solution, isn't it? The only problem - they're so GREEDY they'll never agree to this. And that is the true reason.


Mr. Mac Guy
said

The talk has to be with manufacturers, not retailers.

I work for one of the largest Apple Resellers in Canada. Our cost from Apple has not changed a penny. We currently make about 8% markup on computers. That doesn't leave us any room to lower our prices.

A manufacture like Apple will typically set the price of an item when they initially release an item at the then current exchange rate.

What I'd like to know is... it works both ways. If our loonie ever starts to tank, will Flaherty be meeting with retailers to make sure they raise their prices to reflect the dollar?

It works both ways.


Daniel Lewis
said

1) Companies refusing to sell to us south of the border so they can get higher prices north of it are Price Fixing. It's illegal in both countries.

2) Canadians won't get price parity unless the money men manipulate the market that way. Not likely.

3) Canada actually is less efficient than the US. We're more spread out and our government is still overbearing.

4) Quit bitching. The world doesn't owe you anything. If the world is a way other than you expect, change your expectations.


Mark Dyer
said

I know it's a trivial thing, but I'll throw it out as an example of the vagaries of Canandian pricing. Why is it that AAA batteries cost so much more than AA in Canada? Here in the US the price is the same for both.

As my father says, it's what the market will bear.


Deb Kay
said

Raising the exemption at the border is all fine and dandy if you can afford to travel and go shopping. Some people just need to be able to pay for just plain food and shelter. Those cost cuts are too slow in coming!


Kim
said

Come on guys, quit whining, you's have got it pretty good in Canada and prices on a lot of things such as food and paper products are better than here in the US.

We are now paying almost $5.00 a gallon for milk and we can't buy a decent piece of fruit if our lives depended on it.

Having just returned from a month long vacation to Northern Ontario, we were clearly able to see the difference in both groceries in the supermarket and the quality and quantity of a meal in your restaurants.

Here in the US in order to keep the population happy, suppliers have been cutting back on the size of their products instead of raising prices!

It won't be long and a Big Mac will have to be renamed to Big Joke!

You get what you pay for and good or bad you have a better quality of life. Don't change that for this pitiful American way of life.


RRBSF
said

It's called Whatever the Market Will Bear and the change in value of our dollar has very little to do with it. For years Canadians have perceived that the difference in the dollar made up most of the diference in price however you only needed a calculator to see just how wrong they were.
Canadians have been gouged for years strictly because of our perception that the prices we pay are acceptable and we continue to buy. The only way to bring prices down is to stop buying, period.


Mikey
said

I agree! It is the LAW of SUPPLY and DEMAND! We should just stop buying things that are not really necessary and wait for it to drop because if there are low sales figures, these companies will be forced to drop their prices! This means it is us CANADIANS who need to act not the government! Government is always looking for us to spend because they get tax dollars from ever dollar we spend!


Ian
said

To Shane: You complain that the Conservatives are trying to dictate how retailers should price their goods and that it is the role of the market. If gas prices jumped up to $1.25 and the governmet said that there was nothing they could do, I bet you'd be screaming blue murder. I wish the partisan crap would stay out of things once in awhile.


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