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Date: Tue. Oct. 16 2007 11:13 PM ET

Prime Minister Stephen Harper has outlined an agenda aimed at bringing his Conservatives closer to a majority government, with promises of a one percentage point cut in the GST and a crackdown on violent crime.

The throne speech, delivered by Gov. Gen. Michaelle Jean Tuesday night, also says Canada should remain in Afghanistan until at least 2011 -- well beyond the proposed February 2009 deadline.

But the extension would be put to a vote during this coming Parliamentary session.

The throne speech also said Canada cannot meet its greenhouse gas reduction targets under the Kyoto protocol.

The Liberals have hammered away at the Conservatives on both of those issues, putting the party in a difficult position on whether to support the government.

"The worst of it, the most troubling of it, is the weakness of everything they are proposing on the environment and climate change," Liberal Leader Stephane Dion told reporters.

Both the NDP and Bloc Quebecois have announced their intentions to vote against the speech, leaving the fate of the government up to Dion.

But the Liberal leader said Canadians want a Parliament that functions, not an election, and he would give his party's official response to the speech Wednesday afternoon.

"Canadians don't want a third election in three-and-a-half years, so we'll have a real lively caucus tomorrow," said Dion.

The caucus meeting could be especially lively because of recent party infighting. Liberal MP Marcel Proulx confirmed Wednesday that he resigned this past weekend as Dion's right-hand-man in Quebec.

Sources told The Canadian Press that Proulx, who represents the Hull-Aylmer riding, quit after hearing that Dion had offered the post to Montreal MP Denis Coderre.

But Coderre has turned down the position, leaving Dion to find another replacement. After the throne speech, the Liberals announced it would be Celine Hervieux-Payette, the party's Senate leader.

If Dion forces an election, Harper would use the throne speech as his election platform. The document outlined five new priorities:

  • Strengthening Canada's sovereignty in the world;
  • Forging a stronger federation;
  • Providing economic leadership;
  • Tackling crime; and,
  • Improving the environment.

On the issue of crime, the speech gave plans for a new "Tackling Violent Crime" bill that would crack down on impaired driving and set mandatory prison terms for gun crimes.

The first of the priorities promised to protect Canada's Arctic.

"Canadians see in our North an expression of our deepest aspirations, our sense of exploration, the beauty and the bounty of our land, and our limitless potential," Jean read.

The government's plan would also include the creation of a "world-class" Arctic research station to study environmental science and resource development. The station would also map the Arctic seabed, with the intention of strengthening Canada's claim to the region.

The following additional measures were also included in the speech:

  • Granting honorary citizenship to Nobel Peace laureate Aung San Suu Kyi, detained by Burma's military rulers;
  • Tax cuts for individuals and businesses;
  • The government will limit its ability to spend tax dollars in the provinces;
  • Increased funding for cities and infrastructure;
  • More measures to help senior citizens; and,
  • No new national programs without provincial approval -- a direct appeal to Quebec.

Liberals feel pressure over speech

The promise to abandon Canada's Kyoto commitments puts pressure on Dion, who must now decide whether to support the speech or trigger an election.

But analysts said he will likely support the speech.

"This is an unprecedented situation. Usually in a minority government, the opposition is trying to bring the government down, but here it's reversed," political analyst Tom Flanagan told CTV's Mike Duffy Live.

"I think for the first time in Canadian history, we have a government which wouldn't mind being defeated, but it can't seem to get the opposition to come out against it."

Both the NDP and Bloc Quebecois are expected to vote against the speech.

NDP Leader Jack Layton has said recently that his party cannot accept the government's stance on climate change and Afghanistan.

"We can't express confidence," he told CTV's Mike Duffy Live.

"He's not going to get a mandate to head in this direction from the New Democrats. He'll have to turn to Mr. Dion, to see if he's going to support the Harper direction or not. But are the Liberals even going to show up for work?"

Bloc Quebecois Leader Gilles Duceppe had put forward five "non-negotiable" conditions for his party's support of the speech, one of which was a commitment to meet Canada's responsibilities under the Kyoto Protocol.

Green Party Leader Elizabeth May also attacked the throne speech for what she described as a cynical promise for action on climate change.

She said the Conservatives used the throne speech "in an attempt to sound like they're committed to climate change, which we know they're not."

The Liberals have a few days to decide whether to support the government's throne speech.

Liberal MP Garth Turner told reporters that Dion is a consensus-builder and that more discussions will be held with Liberal caucus members before a decision is made.

A Strategic Counsel poll released late Monday shows a fall election would likely result in another minority government.

With a report by CTV's Robert Fife in Ottawa

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Mark Stall
said

This throne speech is disgraceful. It's not moving forward; we're moving backward since typical conservative policies tend to backfire (i.e tax cuts, more prison sentences etc...).

We should topple the government plain and simple!


JF
said

Well Harper's stance on the environment is not going to get my vote... it's totally irresponsible and reprehensible that any gov't and society should leave it completely up to our children and their children to pay the huge costs of climate change!

Ian
said

It will be very interesting to see what the Liberals will do when the vote is held this week. I remember shortly after the 2006 election how eager they were to regain power that they would have welcomed an election right then and there. They could have cared less what Canadians wanted, election wise, and in fact said publically that the Liberals had to do everything they could to regain power as soon as possible. This to me was proof enough that they had no intention of giving the newly elected government a chance to govern, and would make it their priority to bring the government down. They did not say that they looked forward to being able to work with the new government for the good of the country, but counted the days until they would be back in power. This was not a sign of a party who was willing to make a minority government work.


Allan Eizinas
said

A Throne speech is a shopping wish list by the government of the day. Like any shopper, the government of the day may later change its mind (like income trusts) and after all, it is the opposition that provides the OK for individual purchases.

Much ado about nothing!



Frank
said

What this country needs are true income tax cuts, i.e. deep reduction of marginal income tax rates across the board, and certainly not another GST cut.

I wonder when Tories will finally get it... Even latter-days Liberals appeared to have finally seen the light in their last days in power!


DP
said

I feel sad observing my fellow Canadians - willing so eagerly to sell themselves, to trade relatively small tax cuts - compared to what the people of Canada really deserve and what the government could easily afford - trade this to their freedoms, their core values, their principles and, perhaps, the spirit of this country.

If Harper wins a majority - it will be a shame for all of us. Soon we all will have too many reasons to regret - that we didn't think well, that we were obsessed with one thing only: money, wealth, prosperity.

Let it be - and let our children forgive us for such a stupid act.


Steve
said

I think Dion would be wise to force an election. With the Conservatives' support stuck at a level below their support on election day, we would likely end up with another Conservative minority government, but Dion would be able to hold his head high, and buy more time for the Liberals to get their house in order.


Shawn
said

Just watch as the droves of Conservatives who stack the comment section praise the throne speech.
Throw people in jail and hand out criminal records for drugs, and remain in the Afghanistan quagmire for another four years at least.



DJ
said

JF,
no matter what happens politically speaking to the environment issue, our children pay the price. if it's following Kyoto, economically today, they pay the price (probably the lesser of two evils). if it's stand and do nothing, they pay the price. Which would you have? what are you doing personally? If I came to your house would I see a giant SUV and your thermostat set at 22?


Andy P
said

well, the pressure's certainly on Mr. Dion now


John
said

JF, do you want a government that is really going to do something about the environment or do you simply want one that will sign on to Kyoto, do nothing to reach its targets, which are unrealistic in the first place, but criticize other countries for not signing on. Just ask the Italians or Japanese people about Kyoto.


JH
said

I agree with DP comment. This is just a smoke screen to buy our votes and give our freedoms away. No way do I believe or trust this government to do what is on this wish list. Without clean air, water and food we are nothing. Shame on them to ignore the environmental issues and instead promote and spend more of our resources on war making and killing someone around the world, in some sort of perverted democracy building experiment.

A GST break is only for the rich who can afford to purchase big ticket items and yes few pennies for the retail workers.


Mark D
said

Mr. Harper has outlined a plan that reflects what most Canadians care about, crime sentencing, which many see as far too lax, reducing the awful GST and inclome tax cuts. He's been realistic, unlike the NDP, wow what a stretch there, on climate change. Bring it on Dion, force a vote and the last Liberal please turn out the lights!


Ian
said

When the Tories cut the GST why did income tax raise?


Charlie
said

Newsflash: Dion caves, Harper survives. Polls rule the day.


Daniel
said

Its amazing how Liberal Supporters can simply dismiss what the PM outlined. Look whats been happening in the North with the Russians, look at crime etc. Here is a man who wants to fix what he can step by step and slef serving Canadians dont like it.


Canadian
said

This is a fabulous Throne Speech from Canada's New Government.

The anticipated "poison pill" is obvious - there is no way Liberals will agree to harsher treatment of paedophilies and gun crimes, since it contradicts Liberals view of criminal rights.




Jim
said

Let's face it...

When it comes to the Arctic Sovereignty issue, who would you rather see on the world stage representing us talking to Mr. Poutin and Mr. Bush? Dion? No! Layton?? Absolutely not! I'd gladly give up a few more years of our global impact on the world - before I give up the CANADIAN ARCTIC to the Russians or Americans. I have no pitty for armed criminals either, so I'm Conservative on the whole thing - as are the majority of Canadians. Disagree? Call an election so that the government has more power to make the right decisions. Please!


Mamad BC
said

Tax cuts won't benefit anyone except the rich corporations. The Afghanistan war being extended till 2011 will cost us 3 billion a year. How about those two tings, creating more social programs to eliminate poverty and homelessness? With those crime and drugs would be eliminated at the same time. harper's policies are very scary and will hurt the country in the long run. I hope Liberals vote against it. Although since Livberals are very mixed up, I don't think they have a chance in an ellection. Conservatives will get millions in campaign money from rich corporations. Oh and to point out, Conservative's environment plans will ruin all of our forests and climate in a few years. Also, they shouldn't get the credit for our economical success. Liberals did all the work.
I'll definitely vote green or NDP. Something to get rid of these close minded rights.


Alex D
said

Only rich people care about the GST and last time I checked, it's the middle class that is the clear majority of Canada and we want INCOME TAX CUTS. I'm sorry, but 1% off of GST has not benefited me in the least. So I save a penny every time I buy a bag of chips, so I save a $1 on a $100 purchase. It makes no sense at all to continue on cutting the GST. Canadians should feel insulted that Harper tries to play off our stupidity for his political gains, since only stupid people think that a cut in the GST would actually benefit them. Look, our canadian dollar is stronger, which means our exports are weaker, so we have to start nurturing the consumer and cutting the GST won't put enough money back into the hands of the people vs. an income tax cut. I say, boost the GST back to 7%, cut income taxes for everyone, and watch the money flow across this country.

Harper is a good, strong leader with a distinct respect for democracy (think the gay marriage debate and how he lost it and pretty much said "democracy is democracy") and for that I respect him. But his ideas and ideals are all flawed and backwards.


Jami
said

Liberals are in no position for a fall election. Why send the voters to the polls to return us to the same situation? Liberals need to find a leader that would appeal to ALL of Canada not just one area. Mr. Dion is a puppet not a leader. Hats off to Harper to finally get tough on crime and security. I am tired of seeing crack heads hanging around our schools with the police unable to lock these dirt bags behind bars.


Jay
said

I don't understand why nobody can wrap their head around abandoning Kyoto. We HAVE to revise our emissions reduction schedule. Kyoto's targets were set assuming we started tackling it in the late 90s. Since the Liberals did nothing, we are at a point where the only way we can meet the targets is to go around shutting of factories. At least Harper is willing to propose realistic targets rather than paying lip service to a pipe dream.


ET
said

How did we have a $13B surplus the year the GST got cut by 1%? Makes you wonder where the money came from? Answer: Harper quietly slashed almost every single environmental program on the books...as well as the only REAL child care program this country ever had. Now he wants to improve the environment? Sounds like a "Hot Air Act" to me!

Afganistan? He's already made up him mind...maybe part of that "hidden agenda" they refuse to awknowledge? Notice how talk of Afganistan has shifted a little right before an election gets called? Why has nobody picked up on this?

Crime? Harper's trying to treat the symptoms, not the cause. Ban those guns! Get rid of them.

This bit about "The government will limit its ability to spend tax dollars in the provinces," will severely limit the government's ability to attract new business to any smaller communities. Very stupid!

Mr. Dion, PLEASE call and election!


Jesse Otteman
said

Looks like the Conservative are taking the country in the right direction. The throne speech will pass.


Michael
said

The government is seeking a mandate to continue the progress it has made at home and on the world stage. Liberal supporters would rather plunge us all into an election for what??? So Liberals can fulfill their unbridled lust for power?

If these one eyed turkeys want an election then let's have one and put them put of their collective misery so the Prime Minister can get on with the job of running the country.




DS
said

I would rather see money spent on our environment than a gst tax cut. We've lived with the gst all this time, but we cannot live in a polluted world and neither can our children.
When are politicians going to smarten up and do something that needs to be done - and stand up to BIG MONEY?

tony
said

The Liberals are at their weakest moment. If there's an election, Harper's promises are more fine-tuned to the average voter. The Kyoto Protocols may have the right heart in mind but in the wrong political situation.


greig
said

I watched the entire speech. I thought it was very "centered" and moves Canada forward. It was very clear with regards to Kyoto, that it would be irresponsible to think the Government could achieve the committments the Liberals in the remaining 77 days when they themselves could achieve it in over a decade.. Time to try some other initiatives. What really put me off the Throne speech was CBC turned off the sound during the details of the Crime Bill to flash on the bottom half of the screen that Jack Layton would vote against the speech. Then shortly there after turned off the sound to flash that Duceppe would not support the speech. That is newsworthy - something the whole country did not already know?? How bias! All and all, a very responsible and forward thinking speech. Well done. Maybe some fine tuning but very acceptable and welcomed.


Ruth Montaldi
said

As a person on a provincial disability benefit programme I welcome a 1% cut in GST. Why? As I do not have an adequate taxable income I do not receive a formal Federal tax benefit. The cut in GST at least gives people like me some benefit. I saw an extra $15 a month when the first cut took place.


M.E.
said

What is all this hullaballoo over a throne speech. It is no more interesting than listening to a parliamentary session. It is not a budget just a precurser or as one person said a wish list, and they may or may not bring in all that they talk about in the speech.

tom
said

I personally would like to see the liberals bring down the government! the time is now.....not a in a few weeks when the confidence votes start comin!


TG
said

Honestly I would have liked Mr. Harper to kill the GST all together (this would help the lower and middle class )1% does not cut it unless your rich and buying a yacht. On youth crime we should be more strict due to the fact a lot of people are dying needlesly on the streets and roadways of this country every year due to juvenileswho don't seem to care.


jason
said

Great comments,...but has anyone asked WHY Dion did NOT have a comment? He gave the SPOTLIGHT to Ignatief.

Rob Z
said

Extend the Afghanistan mission? Is Mr. Harper out of his mind? None of the opposition parties are going to support this, seeing how the Liberals and the Bloc want out by the stated February 2009 deadline and the NDP wants out now! And while we need to focus more on reconstruction, taking the NDP's approach would damage our reputation on the international scene.

As for the other priorities, I feel they are out of line and if anything, it will cost Mr. Harper support and boost the NDP and Greens.


Bob Smith
said

Why another useless GST cut?

Is Harper really an economist? The one thing all economists agree on is how useless of a cut a consumption tax is over a personal income tax.

Yeah!!! I get to save another penny every time I spend a dollar.

I guess the millionares will be happy when they get to save more on the fancy cars they buy.

Please - let's have another election and get some real priorities dealt with for a change.


Matthew T
said

I think the Harper Government is doing a great job with Canada. Being a member of the Canadian Forces this government has showed the support we need and they have given us the tools and equipment also. I find it funny that people are so upset about enviromental issues, first off I believe the Liberals have allowed us to get this far without any leadership on the issue, also following the Kyoto Accord will mean higher taxes and then the public will complain about that. As Canadians we have to realize we have it pretty good here. Lets get real and realize what we can accomplish. No point in setting up for failure. Great Speech Mr. Harper


Andre
said

Excellent throne speech...it shows a government in control and clearly focused...and GST cut will prevent a future Liberal government tons of money for their own pockets...I vote Conservative for sure this next election.

Scott S
said

All you Liberal and NDP lot preaching about the environment need to get educated. I'm a Canadian working abroad. Currently stopped in Karachi Pakistan. This nice little city of about 12 million belches so much sewage and filth that it is hard to be outside on deck without becoming sick. How can you lot condemn Harpers approach on the environment? You really think it is our 30 million people in the large country of Canada which is causing most of the global warming? You had better wise up, and get out travelling a bit to some of these places and you'll have a different view. Harper's plan is right on, and responsible.

Mark E
said

I will take a $1 savings on every $100 I spend any day over nothing.
As far as I am concerned about Kyoto, Canada is in absolutely no position to ever live up to the agreement. We would have to shut down our entire resource sector to begin to make it work, and that would mean that no one works.
Criminals deserve to go to jail for a lengthy period if they are caught committing a crime involving firearms or drug dealing. Drug and firearm crimes seem to go hand in hand with one another. Having a fair and free society is a wonderful thing. Getting the people who live off of ruining lives of others through drugs and violence is something we need in order to move forth.
Love him or hate him, Harper is a strong leader. I can respect that.


Jonathan
said

Congratulations to Harper and the conservatives for placing such a heavy emphasis on issues relating to the north. Training northern First Nations people for work in northern industry and committing efforts to protect arctic sovereignty are very admirable initiatives that are needed here.


Hoser
said

All this whining, griping and complaining here. We are a have country, a blessed country and as far as I see, we have a responsible government who are doing what's best for Canada, not for individuals, but for Canada. Not every self serving special interest group are going to get everything they want. I think Mr. Harper has shown tremendous leadership in his short term so far as PM. The Liberals had 13yrs to do what he's doing and they're whining on how he isn't doing what they couldn't do.


Paul
said

The Conservatives continue to only talk.

They have done nothing effectively for the evironment since being in power...nothing for reducing GHGs. Intesity targets will do nothing and we are already at a critical stage in the enviroment on GHGs.

As far as taxes, I have not seen anything notible in reducing in mine or my wife's income taxes returns. We fall below the $55K per year combined and our taxes have acually increased.

Bring it on...I'm not voting Conservative!


John O
said

I cannot believe that we are willing to take at face value all this talk of climate change. Never has one group ever been able to control every policy like this green movement. As a race we are not even sure that we are controlling this change in the climate. Why then do we feel the need to bring out economy to a halt for people who have yet to be born? Lets live in the present, not the future


Jim in the West
said

Wow! Even I didn't predict anything so obvious in its attempt to force an election....

Buster B. Brown
said

Dion knows he is now trapped. He is doomed no matter ,so he should go for an election, resign as party leader and ask Iggy to take over.


Ian D
said

So what did the liberals do for the environment in all the years they where in power? Absolutely nothing!
The Kyoto accord could never be met, and Mr Harper understands this. Global warming is not being caused by humans. It is a natural cycle of climate warming and cooling that has been going on for almost a million years. Al Gore conveniently chooses a small snapshot in history when the temperature is rising. It is a huge hoax and alot of people are trying to cash in on it.

Crime, education and health care are more important issues that need to be dealt with.


steve
said

They don't have the prison space for every Canadian that smokes a joint. The conservatives are totally against my vision of Canada and I wish the New Canadian government would make its defection to the US, so I can live in the Old Canadian government once again. I have no problem going to the polls in Ontario.


SP
said

Despite all the complainers above I liked the thrown speech. Everyone forgets it was the Liberals who said they would get rid of the GST but did not and it was the Liberals who put our troops in Afganistan not the Conservatives and it was the Liberals that signed Kyoto. Quit blaming the current Gov't for the past. Keep up the Good work Stephen, at least he is doing what he promised.


Norm
said

I think what Prime Minister has outlined in his Throne Speeck is balanced and rational. Should help to allay the fears of a right wing agenda and all the other out-dated and prolonged labels the Oppostion continue to use to define Harper - simply because they lack the vision to see and acknowledge leadership in action. And the reaction by the Opposition - predictable!


Chris from Winnipeg
said

The throne speech is decent... certainly won't make everybody happy (as evidenced by many of the comments posted here). The difference between a Tory throne speech and one by the Grits is that Harper hasn't promised anything unachievable. Granted, there's nothing particularly flashy, but at least it will get done. That means something to me. Liberals, credit where credit is due, paint beautiful pictures. But what progress have they made in the last decade in areas that they claim to be champions? The environment? National daycare? Health care? Aboriginal issues? International issues? They've had a reasonable amount of time to get something accomplished but all I can remember is one scandal after another (A number of Chretien gaffs on the international stage, re-neg on promise to eliminate the GST, cancellation of the EH-101, HRDC, Gun Registry, Sponsorship, and Liberal party in-fighting). Harper won't win any popularity contests, but he is making progress on some important issues.


Jason
said

Looks like the Liberal bloggers are out in full force bashing a moderate centrist throne speech. It was way too Liberal for me but I suppose it's better than the alternative.

As a side note everyone interviewed who wasn't an oppositio member seemed to be fairly happy including the natives.


Ryan
said

Politically this speech was brilliant. Harper let hints slip all over the place about possible poison berry additions to the budget which the opposition leaders foolishly jumped at...

Roger T
said

What a waste of time. Do we really need to waste air time just to discuss the GST? Isn't there better topics?

I can understand the war mission but the GST cut! Why not discuss the Governor General's cut style and how much it cost us tax payers to have her sit on the throne just to speak. Maybe, cut the lavish spending on Gov't officials would be a better topic.


Raymond
said

Solid, albeit anti-climactic throne speech. Amusing to see all the bitter liberals boo-hooing about 'nothing being done'. You need to reflect on your own party's political shortcomings over thirteen years. Grow up.


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