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Date: Fri. Oct. 12 2007 6:14 PM ET

Prime Minister Stephen Harper has officially named a five-member panel to advise on the future involvement of Canada in Afghanistan.

Harper said at a news conference in Ottawa on Friday that the group was non-partisan and will come up with recommendations on a course of action for when Canada's NATO commitment in Afghanistan expires in February 2009.

Former Liberal deputy prime minister John Manley will head the group, which includes:

  • Derek Burney, Canada's former ambassador to Washington and former chief of staff to Brian Mulroney
  • Respected broadcaster Pamela Wallin, who was Canadian consul general in New York
  • Former Progressive Conservative cabinet minister Jake Epp
  • Paul Tellier, former Clerk of the Privy Council and former president and CEO of Canadian National Railway and Bombardier

Harper said he has asked the panel to examine four main options for the future of the Afghanistan mission:

  • Option One -- continue training the Afghan army and police with the goal of creating a self-sufficient indigenous security force in Kandahar province so that Canadian troops can withdraw in February 2009
  • Option Two -- focus on reconstruction work in Kandahar, which would require other countries to take over security role
  • Option Three -- shift Canadian security and reconstruction efforts to another region in Afghanistan
  • Option Four -- withdraw all Canadian military forces after February 2009 except for small contingent to provide security for aid workers and diplomats

Harper said the panel is also free to consider other options but that in the end Parliament will ultimately decide which route to take.

Manley, who was alongside Harper for the announcement, said Afghanistan represents an enormous opportunity for Canada to play a meaningful role in a globally significant arena.

Still, he said Afghanistan also represents a massive challenge to Canada's resources and capabilities.

"In carrying out our work the panel will be cognizant of the sacrifice Canadians have already made in helping the Afghan people, as well as progress achieved and challenges remaining," said Manley.

He said the panel will also consider the overarching objectives of the United Nations and NATO missions in Afghanistan.

NATO wants Canada to keep combat troops in Afghanistan after February 2009 -- a course of action Harper supports.

Harper dismissed suggestions he's trying to avoid debate on Afghanistan.

"You know the government can't take the issue off the table,'' he told a news conference, with Manley by his side.

"Afghanistan is a major public policy issue and it will be addressed in (next week's) throne speech. What I've said the government wants to do . . . is make sure we have a rational and considered debate.''

Deciding Canada's role once the current mission expires in February 2009 promises to be the hottest issue in Parliament when it resumes sitting next week.

NDP Leader Jack Layton has already reacted to the proposal, saying elected officials should be directing policy on Afghanistan.

Germany

Germany's lower house of Parliament voted 454-79 on Friday to support the extension of that country's mission in Afghanistan for another year.

Chancellor Angela Merkel had argued strongly for keeping the troops there, saying Germany must not "leave Afghanistan in the hands of the terrorists."

Germany's 2,800 ground troops are in northern Afghanistan, where there is relatively little insurgent activity. Europe's largest nation has balked at the idea of having them take part in the heavy fighting in the south.

Canada's 2,500 troops are operating in Kandahar province, one of the most volatile in Afghanistan. Seventy-one Canadian soldiers and one diplomat have died in Afghanistan since 2002.

Meanwhile, Mullah Omar called Friday for Afghanistan's neighbours to help the Taliban topple the government of President Hamid Karzai and force foreign troops out of the country.

The fugitive leader's message was carried on a website known to be used by Islamist militant groups.

The message hasn't been confirmed yet, nor is it clear when it was posted. However, the message carried a greeting for the Muslim holiday of Eid al-Fitr, which is set for Saturday in Canada.

Karzai has made peace overtures to the insurgents. But the Taliban and warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, leader of the militant group Hezb-i-Islami, have said foreign troops must leave first.

Afghanistan is going through its most violent year since the Taliban were overthrown in 2001. An estimated 5,100 people have died so far this year in insurgency-related violence.

With files from The Associated Press

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cadguy
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Isn't it possible to have options 1, 3 and 4 together? Possibly all four for that matter. You could move to a different area of operations, while continuing to train the army there and still leave in the 2009 deadline. If so, then how valid are these? If it is this vague to start, one can only expect things to stay poorly defined throughout this process. Before putting a panel together - why not clearly define the major points of view. To stay in the country past the 2009 deadline for one since that is really Harper's position on this.


Gary
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I would like to see a non partisan committee made up of average Canadians to go along with elected officials appointed to the panel as well experts in the field. My point is that without independent non partisan, neutral based panel members...these things become a joke...just window dressing to appease the public. Surely in an advanced democratic society, like Canada, we can accommodate the 33 million voices out here...elected officials are too biased though they should represent the people who elect them… the reality is they don’t...they toe party lines

allan
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I am a conservative but think Manley is a very capable man for this job.


Judy
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I hope Mr. Manley and the others on the panel take into concideration how the military feel about this when they make their recommendations. Not what the joe on the street wants who knows nothing of what this war is about. It is very important for the military to finish the job. Canada needs to show the rest of NATO we are going to support them by being in Afghanistan to finish the job. As a military wife and mother I ask you to talk to the military personel who are involved, please let them finish this job so they can feel they didn't let their lost brothers and sister down.


Young Vet
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Canada is one of the few nations to actually take part in combat operations. Unless the rest of NATO is willing to step up and make it a truly equal partnership then Canada should withdraw from the combat arena and let some other nations take on the load for some time. Some NATO countries have sent nothing more than observers, some refuse to participate in combat just as Germany has and others won't even let their troops out at night.

WHY is Canada taking on the lion's share of this??? We've close to twice the casualties of all other NATO countries combined this year. Ask yourself WHY???




Just Cynical
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By all means bring in members of the public to sit on this panel, but selected at random, not appointed by some group with a politiical axe to grind. It would be easy for a market research firm to come up with a list of 1000 random phone numbers from which a panel could be short-listed.

However, getting such a panel would be contrary to what the politicians want, so why even bother with the cost of a panel in the first place?


Ryan
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I beleive the Prime Minister has been wise in his descision to choose this non- partisan panel. As for my own opinion I beleive that Canadian Soldiers should stay in Kandahar with a larger portion than currently working on reconstruction and a a thousand troops who are ready to do battle. What a great leader we have. Every predicament this coutnry has faced, this man has been there to lead the way. God bless Canada


Chris
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Another brilliant move by Harper. When the panel comes back with the fact that Canada has no choice but to retain a full combat capability in Afghanistan and as a result will be there for a generation (just like Cyprus), he can weather the simple-minded and passive views of the ignorant electorate. The same electorate, by the way, that just put McGuinty back in office in Ontario. On to a majority government.


Wes
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This is the only time I think Jack Layton has made a good point. Elected officials are paid to make these decisions. The fact of the matter is that the Canadian forces are up to this task and want to complete it. No matter what mission we undertake the Canadian army is not large enough to avoid high tempo rotations and we will always need all of the tools in the box. Updating the Canadian forces equipment and increasing recruiting efforts was a necessity no matter what. A responsible government would have done it years sooner. If we pull our soldiers out of Afghanistan there will only be calls to send them to Darfur. Under the UN they will be handcuffed sitting targets. Then we would really see some senseless casualties. At the end of the day if the British and the Dutch can do the right thing so can Canada.

Allan Eizinas
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A shrewd move and indicates that Harper is starting to distance himself from this Canadastan fiasco. So far the Liberals have succeeded in making this human meat grinder appear as “Harper’s War” and this panel will at least give the appearance that a more objective evaluation is taking place.

If/when Harper realizes that this is/was a mistake and a political millstone around his neck he will initiate a Canadian troop “extrication”. Then he will not have to admit to a mistake but instead take the credit for following an “impartial” panel’s advice.

This is good politics. He should have done this 2 years ago so we wouldn’t be stuck in there today.


GG
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Let me get this right...Harper has appointed a panel to review the Afghanistan mission ???....when the vast majority of Canadians have clearly expressed our interests on this matter ? hmmmm...I thought our elected officials were supposed to represent the will and interests of the people who elected them ? Is the government calling us stupid? I think Canadians have provided the government with our direction...it is up to Harper to respect and honour that....and execute a plan to deliver our expressed direction...to me Harper has 2 options...
to redeploy our troops to other parts of Afghanistan (leave Kandahar )and continue to re-develop the country, support, lead diplomatically, provide aid, train Afghan troops or; leave altogether. The ONLY way we should stay in Kandahar is if the US leaves Iraq and redeploys in Kandahar and other parts of Afghanistan to assume the combat and we can stay there to assist the re-development and provide basic security for the region. In that way we will have honoured our fallen soldiers and completed our mission. The panel is NOT necessary. Get on with it Harper. The country is watching.


Paul Connolly
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We all know the Panel was set up because our Prime Minister knows the vast majority of Canadians do not believe his hawkish ways are Canadian values. Harper is a militarist by nature both in war and in parliament; witness numerous examples of his combative ways, military spending and the way he treats his own elected conservative MPs who speak out of line. Off with their heads he says, they are no longer welcome in the conservative caucus if they speak their minds (what ever happened to the Reformers out there - I guess their ideals were lost when they won power.

The Panel is just a way to masque Harper's true feelings about military activity - witness his close relationship with George W. Bush in the USA and the PM of Australia John Howard, all very Hawkish men.


Mark
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I think Canadian Soldiers - the one source that REALLY knows what is going on over there - should be on the panel, as well.


GG
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I think Canadians are clear what they want...this is what Canadians would want say if they WERE the panel- 'option 3'. If option 3 is impossible to negotiate, which I find would be odd, given our option would then be to leave altogether, I am sure NATO would move us. Canadians have said then options 1, 2 and 4 together would be Plan B. No need for a stupid panel. Canada has told Harper this for 20 months. Thus the only way Canada wants to extend the mission is to vacate Kandahar or play a non combat role in Kandahar and complete our mission there, in a different role. Pretty straight forward. I guess Canadians aren’t so stupid after all, as Harper seems to think.

Graham
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Laughing out loud at this so called NON PARTISAN panel. Is he kidding us ???? Non partisan ????? It seems chalk full of partisan. Enough nonsense PM I suggest a random selection of average Canadians be added to that list. An equal number to offset the so called NON PARTISANS panel he appointed… sorry but I am cracking up over here… Harper must think were idiots.

David
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Shouldn't the Foreign Affairs Department be advising the government about what to do in Afghanistan. Does the PM trust Departmental officials so little that he has to appoint a group of (mostly), Conservatives to give advice? This is just Harper trying to deflect responsibility for an increasingly difficult situation.


Doug
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I've been a bit soured on Liberals these days,but I tend to think Manley might be as good a choice as anyone could find.He is one of the very few Liberals who could have tempted me back to the party,if he had become it's leader.I really think he can put most of his political biases aside and,at least initiate a fact based discussion on a very important issue.
His work,though,could ultimately be in vain,since it is clear it will be parliament that has the final debate and decision.It is clear that the BLOC has no interest in keeping Canadian troops there.The NDP has been wanting immediate withdrawl for a long time.I suspect they are going to keep that position no matter what the report says.In fact,I would think that neither the NDP or the BLOC will allow any of their members to vote freely on the issue.
The up side is,that both of the major parties might be able to set aside the partisan nature of this decision.I think both Mr.Harper,and Mr.Dion would be more than happy to do that.

Jason
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Parliment isn't getting anywhere on this issue, we have 4 parties that all have different ideas and aren't willing to bend.

Roch
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Another brilliant strategic move by Prime Minister Harper, perfectly timed prior to Speech from the Throne.

For political enthusiasts like myself, the strategic political brilliance being displayed by Canada's New Government has been wonderful to witness.



ance
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I like the idea of attempting some non-partisan consultations.

This issue is too important and complicated to expect simple, politically driven solutions to be satifactory.

Put bluntly, I don't trust politicians to make the best choice.

My only question would be, why not include a retired military person such as Romeo Dallaire?

I'm thinking he'd definitely have something to offer beyond simplistic rhetoric about how best to really help in Afghanistan.

I will reiterate that part of any continued Canadian participation should include at least a request if not a demand that the Afghan Government implement a secular justice system that includes fair treatment for women and girls.


The Campbells
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Mr. Manley was a brilliant choice to head up this panel. However there should definitely be Canadians, ordinary voting Canadians from all walks of life who have a say on these options. Time for a referendum! Our vote: OUT in February 2009. We've done our part as a nation, we don't have to carry this responsibility on our shoulders alone.


Matt
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It looks like a pretty good panel to do some research.

There is a valid debate to be had over what role Canada should be playing.
I think a capable panel of respected people can help make this a fact based debate of what is really best for Afghanistan and ourselves and not simply run according to the latest public opinion poll.


Todd
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I think Harper has made smart move with this one. As for "average Canadians" on a panel, I'm not that enthusiastic. Even though I'm pretty darn average and most people I know are likewise unspectacular, I can attest that few have the intelligence needed for this task. I want people who are smarter than me, and motivated by logic and reason (more than politics), to be making decisions of this magnitude. Of course input from average people and especially the military MUST be allowed, and I'm sure it will, but not the final say. If you want more power over the nation's decisions than enter the political ring, or join the media!


Jeremy
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Let's just hope that the British are willing to relocate their troops from Iraq to Afghanistan.


Pete
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A good move by a good leader.
Putting together a diverse and non-partisan group such as this is the only logical way to assess a situation as serious as future commitment to Afganistan. One would hope that conclusions reached by this group will have clarity and no political bias.


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