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Date: Wed. Oct. 10 2007 6:31 PM ET
Ottawa and the government of Nova Scotia have reached a deal that ensures the province will never lose the benefit of the Atlantic Accord on offshore resource revenue.
Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Nova Scotia's Premier Rodney MacDonald made the announcement Wednesday in Ottawa.
Calling it an "historic breakthrough," Harper said the deal was a sensible way to overcome a long-running dispute.
"It has never been this government's intention that Nova Scotia or Newfoundland ... would lose benefits agreed to under the Atlantic Accord," Harper said.
In the 2007-08 federal budget, the federal Conservative government changed the equalization formula.
Nova Scotia and Newfoundland and Labrador had the option of keeping the old equalization formula and the 2005 Atlantic Accords, or the new, enriched formula -- at the price of clawbacks of offshore revenues and a fiscal cap.
Nova Scotia, which agreed to the new formula, claimed the new system could cost it up to $1 billion over time. The feds claim the arrangement provided the province with an immediate benefit of $100 million.
"We will ensure these provinces keep any such benefits by allowing them to effectively switch back to the 2005 accord under those particular circumstances," Harper said.
"But once again, while this gives greater flexibility to Nova Scotia's choice -- and Newfoundland's choice -- these provinces must still choose between the two equalization arrangements. They cannot have both."
Harper said the principles of the budget hold that the equalization formula applies equally to all provinces.
"Today's announcement helps us on the path to a stronger Nova Scotia and a stronger Canada" by ensuring the province remains the principal beneficiary of its offshore petroleum resources, MacDonald said.
"I've always told Nova Scotians we would not lose one red cent from the Accord. Our two governments are reaffirming that here today."
Bill Casey, a Nova Scotia Conservative MP, got kicked out of caucus by voting against a procedural motion related to the budget to register his support of Nova Scotia's position.
Harper said this deal will not clear the way to Casey's return to the federal Tory caucus.
"Mr. Casey is not welcome into our caucus ... when there is a next federal election, there will be a Conservative candidate in Mr. Casey's riding, and it will not be Mr. Casey," he said.
In offering thanks, MacDonald mentioned Nova Scotia Tory MPs Peter MacKay and Gerald Keddy, but he didn't mention Casey by name.
Dispute with Williams
Robert Fife, CTV's Ottawa bureau chief, told Newsnet the deal will help the federal Tories in Atlantic Canada, particularly in Nova Scotia.
"Of course, the next step is to solve this dispute with Danny Williams, who won this enormous victory last night," he said.
Premier Williams' Progressive Conservative party won 43 of 48 seats in N.L.'s provincial election held Tuesday.
In his victory speech, Williams addressed the equalization issue: "The people of Newfoundland and Labrador stood behind us in the disagreements with Steven Harper. The people of Newfoundland and Labrador stood behind us in the disagreements with the oil companies.
"So there's a message here, Steve: If you want to take me and my team on, you gotta take on all the people of Newfoundland and Labrador!"
Harper had kind words Wednesday for the outspoken Williams, and he offered Newfoundland the same deal as the one worked out with Nova Scotia.
"Notwithstanding what differences we have, I think the premier and the government have provided strong leadership for the province," said Harper.
But Williams does not appear to be in reconciliatory mood. He's giving a thumbs down to the Nova Scotia deal.
"The bottom line here is that Nova Scotians have said yes to less,'' he said. "Stephen Harper has a way for preying on the weak. ... He sees in Nova Scotia a minority government that is in difficulty and he's talked them into taking this ... It's not something I'm prepared to take.''
The deal also isn't sitting well with Saskatchewan Premier Lorne Calvert. Saskatchewan has its own concerns about the Harper budget and is taking the government to court.
Calvert told CTV Newsnet Wednesday Harper has reneged on a promise that there would be no side deals with individual promises.
"Anybody who says this isn't a side deal, I ask, then what, are french fries at McDonald's? I mean, it's a side deal."
Crown share
Another part of Wednesday's deal is an agreement to have a three-member panel study something called the Crown share.
The Crown share is a cash royalty agreed to in the province's original 1985 offshore deal with Nova Scotia. That royalty has never been paid since offshore energy production began in the early 1990s.
Nova Scotia could expect a large cash payment as a result. MacDonald said the payment could be valued in the hundreds of millions of dollars.
"The two levels of government have not been able to agree on the value of these payments, or a method for calculating them," Harper said.
Each party will appoint one panel member, and a third consensus pick of the two parties. The panel will report by year's end.
Harper called this a "historic breakthrough and a thoroughly sensible way to overcome a dispute that has bedevilled successive provincial and federal governments for over 20 years."
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.


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Martin
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Marcus
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Sean Calder
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Seems to me that Premier MacDonald said he disagreed with Mr. Williams' approach and said that calm, reasonable negotiations with the Federal Conservatives was making progress for his own case.
Guess who made the right call?
Now of course, Mr. Williams and Mr. Calvert will be jumping all over the Federal Conservatives 'demanding' a similar, if not the same deal.
I said it LONG ago, that if you want to get anything done with the Federal Conservatives, you MUST approach them calmly and with respect, and have an open mind and heart. This way a compromise can be reached. Just remember, that compromise means that BOTH sides give up some things to gain others.
My hat's off to Premier MacDonald for handling himself with dignity and respect, the end result being he got what he needed.
Bryce Code
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GG
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T Kendell
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Rob
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Mark
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C-Flo
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Harper has proven to have incredible political instincts. He's never been hotter and is making one great decision after another. The last thing the Libs needed at this point is a leader with no street smarts, but hey, they'll need at least 4 years to rebuild the party from the ground up anyway.
New
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- Total (2007) 506,275 from Wikipedia
Just to put Newfoundland in perspective.
Half the size of Calgary!
Ken
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Gregory Boudreau
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Craig from N.S.
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Ryan
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As for calling the Prime Minister of Canada Steve....well again its time to grow up. The Prime Minister needs to seal a deal with Calvert and then let Williams and Newfoundland stand together in a corner ignored by the rest of the country. Then see how an election goes for Williams.
The Widowmaker
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Jim
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Michele
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jude
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Doug
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As to Danny Williams,I agree with Martin.I appreciate that the man is trying to secure the best for his province. However,Mr.Harper has to answer to ALL PROVINCES.Danny Williams seems unable to recognize that,and incapable of disagreeing without acting like a school kid.
NL & L can support their premier.Nothing wrong with that.But it has to be recognized that there were a lot of premiers at the meetings around the new equalization system.And that only 3 had a problem.The challenge is to get those 3 on board,without losing any of the others.
Mr.Harper could easily improve his popularity in NL by giving Danny what he wants.But,he can kiss several other provinces good-bye with the same stroke of the pen.
It's time Danny grew up,took a page from Premier MacDonalds book,and realize that it takes both sides of a dispute to negotiate.
The object should be to be fair to taxpayers in both the "have",and the "have-not" provinces.
Dave
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Karol
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Kris
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Whose province's votes are up for sale next?
CWR
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Bluenose
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Rodney will claim this as a huge victory by him. I wonder if everyone recalls him sitting on the fence with this issue for over TWO months before he said anything about it in the media. This premier and his cabinet have been a joke from the start. Rodney is a lame duck premier and there is nothing "progressive" about his conservative politics.
Liam Sinclair
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The only natural resources that the provinces own are those on land.
Canadian
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Recent polls ... indicate increased support from Atlantic Canada and Quebec for a Conservative majority.
Annoucements such as this will only continue that trend.
Ryan
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Andre
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When things are bad over there, Ontario pays. When things are good over there, Ontario pays. When things are booming over there, Ontario pays.
At least, they are consistent!
Stephen
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He's trying to sideline Danny Williams while helping his friend Brad Wall in Saskatchewan, who will now intensify his attacks on premier Lorne Calvert for taking Harper to court over his broken equalization promise.
Just as he did in Quebec, Harper is meddling in provincial politics from Ottawa, using provincial citizens as pawns, and all for pure partisan gain.
No way to run a federation.
AL
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Jim
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While he may be a dangerous politician, he would have made a brilliant battlefield commander. Absolute rule over his troops, brazenly dividing his enemies so that he's always harassing the flanks, weakening the centre.
Well done to Mr Harper, and contempt to all of you who can't see through him.
Cliff
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Rod P.
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R. Hurley
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Other provinces could very well find this happening to them if they put their trust in Harper like us Atlantic Canadians have done.
I certainly hope that the voters of Newfoundland and Labrador and also Nova Scotia certainly don't forget his pre election promises and where those promises lie now.
Hugh
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Jerome
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Quebec
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Richard
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CH
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Danny Williams is working with the "squeeky wheel gets the grease" camp...so give him some grease, it comes from oil, I believe. No one likes a loud mouth...even if they may be 50% right.
Arvind Singh
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On the other side, Dion hasn't yet learned to play politics in strategic moves that influences perception. That's something he needs to learn but will he do so in time...so far that's questionable at best.
Vlad the Impaler
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Bill
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jdawson
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Under the original deal the Atlantic Accord said that NS and NL would get transfer payments and any money they made on non-renewable resources wouldn’t be removed from transfer payments.
Under the new transfer payment system every province gets much larger transfer payment then before. But half of the money they make on non-renewable resources will be removed from transfer payments.
What the Government of Canada did was change the definition of what a “transfer payment” is.
It would be like you agreeing with your boss that you would get your base salary today plus a bonus for every sale. Then once your sales increase your boss recalculates your base salary.
In essence Harper changed the rules part way through the contract.
Due to the fact Newfoundland makes much more money on non-renewable resources then NS. If they accept the deal NS did today they would loose billions of dollars a year.
Thus NL is forced not to accept the higher transfer payments that every other province can enjoy today.
The truly funny part about this is that if the Government of Canada is somewhat short sighted. If the federal government had allowed NL access to the new transfer payments system plus keeping the non-renewable resources, in two years Newfoundland would have enough money that they wouldn’t be eligible anymore for transfer payments. At that point Newfoundland would to pay into the system like Alberta.
If NL stays with the old transfer payment system it will take them another four or five years and then they would have to pay into the system.
gord
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lisa
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Sean Calder
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The offer was made at the beginning to NS & NL/NB that they can opt for either of the options at the beginning of each fiscal year.
If at any point in time, one Equalization Formula proves to be better for the province than the other, that province will be allowed to switch over to the better Formula.
No brainer. Good deal!
Under the new system, the provinces can take advantage of the better transfers NOW in the REVISED Formula while waiting for the profits to reach parity or better with the OLD Formula, at which time they can go back to the old Formula.
Danny Williams and Lorne Calvert on the other hand, wanted the benefits of the new Formula while still taking advantage of the profits from the old one. THIS was the problem from the beginning. The problem being that such an arrangement would unbalance Equalization across ALL the provinces.
Ian
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Sandra
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Same old,Same old
Mark
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(1)There is no doubt that if Newfoundland were its own country (as it was only 60 years ago), it would have sole rights to the offshore oil...so lets stop with the constitutional mumbo jumbo about the Liberals giving the offshore oil to Newfoundland. It was theirs in the first place. Not to mention that Mulroney signed the first accord in the mid-80's, not the Liberals.
(2) Newfoundland is two years away from being a "have" province by economic terms as set out in the equalization program. If one person truly thinks that Newfoundland is as well off as Ontario they should get their head checked...the economic indicia used in the program are crazy. Therefore, it is fair to say that a cap based on the same indicia is equally crazy.
(3) Ontario is one of the most subsidized province in this confederation. One must only include the Ontario salaries that all Canadians pay in federal civil servant jobs and the associated taxes that the Provincial government collects as a result. Also, lets not forget the billion dollar bail-outs for the auto industry over the years and the trade-deals that favour Ontario manufacturing over western wheat and eastern fish (among other things).
(4)This is hardly a deal for NS at all. All they have gained is to use the equlization option that benefits them the best every year. Before they could only switch to the new system once and be stuck there forever. This deal only allows them to go back and forth based on the finances of the province at the time and the system that benefits them that year. Mr. Williams and Mr. Calvert would be crazy to accept this deal. For Mr. Williams, the old regime is best for him until 2011 or so, so he is in no hurry to jump at this deal as it provides no benefits to NL right now.
(5) As so aptly pointed out, NL has 500000 people. For this very reason it must scream to be heard. Mr. Williams does this well on their behalf.
(6) The equalization system as originally proposed by the tories in the last election would have benefited Canada as a whole by allowing deeply indebted provinces to pay off debt and forever remain "have" provinces. The new system leaves ON and AB to foot the bill forever. While the federal government likes this game as it has shown effective in buying votes for 50 years, the people of ON and AB should be outraged.
Make no mistake. This is not what the tories offered in the last election and every Canadian should remember that a promise made is not a promise kept. The tories are using AB and ON money to buy votes. A revised equalization system would remove this tool in the federal government's toolbox. No wonder they don't want to lose it! But I can't, for the life of me, understand why the people in ON, AB and all other provinces are okay with it?
Uwe Warkholdt, Elliot Lake, Northern Ontario
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In my opinion, this is the first Prime Minister during my life time that is doing everything to preserve our unity in Canada.
Good work, Mr. Harper. The other parties should be scared to call an election. I believe that many of them would find themselves unemployed. Perhaps it would serve them right.
Cindy from Newfoundland
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As for the comments about Premier Williams... put yourself in his shoes as Premier of Canada's poorest province for a day and realize that he's just trying to protect his province as if you would protect your families, even if it means drastic measures.
We can all sit here and talk down about the Premiers of every province and of the Prime Minister but at the end of the day, we're all Canadians just trying to better ourselves, our provinces and our country the best way we know how.
larry
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Ron from Ottawa
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Chad
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Myles Higgins
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The new "deal" does nothing to address the fact that Harper promised to leave 100% of non-renewable resources out of the equalization formula and didn't.
The new "deal" allows the province to either participate in the new equalization formula OR remain in the Atlantic Accord using the old and less valuable 2005 formula. It will allow them to move in and out of either option during the lifetime of the Accord agreement. This is essentially the same choice already offered to Nova Scotia by Stephen Harper when he first left the accord in tatters. It just extends the ability of the province to move in and out over a slightly longer period of time.
The new "deal" doesn’t allow Nova Scotia to participate in the current equalization formula and keep the accord, even though the accord contract itself clearly states that is exactly what is supposed to happen.
The only potential value of this new "deal" for Nova Scotia may be in finally getting some kind of settlement on royalties already owed to the province by Ottawa for decades but never actually paid. A panel will determine the amount owing and both parties will be bound by that decision. No doubt it won't be the full amount and even after the board makes its determination Nova Scotia will still have to depend on Ottawa to pay up, something they refused to do the first time around.
Of course by the time that decision is made the federal election will be long over leaving the province with less leverage to extract money from Ottawa than they do now.
The timing of this announcement is perhaps as interesting as its contents. Coming when federal election speculation is in the air, the day after a huge election result in Newfoundland and Labrador, while Ontario is at the polls, within a day or so of an election in Saskatchewan and while the House of Commons is not sitting. It almost seems the PM wants this to slip through without anyone paying too much attention to it.
Dave in Surrey
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Get a grip folks!!!
CG
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He didn't buy my vote with a new off shore deal.
jason
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You stand up for what is ours!!! You have done alot for this province in the last four years and I agree with you that we are not giving away anything anymore. I'm sure when a election is called federal I know there will be no Blue flags running threw this beautiful province of ours. Remember Newfoundlanders now living away from the province A.B.C. Anything But Conserivative in the next federal election...
Karen
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