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Date: Fri. Oct. 5 2007 8:55 PM ET
With reports today that Conservatives have told political operatives to get the campaign "war rooms" ready, all parties are getting ready to blame each other for the possiblity of triggering a fall election.
The Liberals say the Tories are trying to confuse Canadians about which party wants to trigger a federal election.
Liberal MP Ruby Dhalla told CTV's Mike Duffy Live Friday that "On one hand (the Conservatives) continue to say that we don't want to go into an election campaign. On the other hand they are doing everything to ensure they are ready, and I think that they should really start looking at the needs of Canadians."
Dhalla added that she doesn't believe Canadians want to go the polls any time soon.
"I've spoken to many Canadians on the ground and I don't think anyone at this point wants an election except for Stephen Harper and the Conservatives," she said.
Dhalla's comments came after a Tory strategist told CTV Newsnet that the Conservative government doesn't want an election but is trying to be prudent in preparing for one.
Geoff Norquay told CTV Newsnet on Friday that the opposition parties have been drawing lines in the sand about supporting the government's throne speech, scheduled to be delivered on Oct. 16.
"If we have one, it's really up to the opposition parties," he said.
The Globe and Mail reported that federal Tory organizers have been told to have their election campaign offices ready to go on Oct. 20. Meanwhile, candidates have been told to immediately start canvassing constituents.
Campaign chairman Doug Finley gave the directives during a conference call with candidates Thursday, it said.
Finley also reportedly said that there would be four or five items in the throne speech that the opposition parties would find absolutely unacceptable.
New Democrat MP Paul Dewar told Mike Duffy Live that his party will listen to the throne speech before making any decisions about whether the party will support it. He said the NDP wants to focus on Canada's mission in Afghanistan, the prosperity gap, and the environment.
"People know where we're at," Dewar said. "The question is: what are the other parties going to do?"
Sources confirmed that campaign workers have been told to be in place at the Ottawa war room on Oct. 18 -- the day the first throne speech vote could take place. Throne speech votes are confidence votes, so if the opposition parties vote down the speech, an election could be triggered.
Organizers also told the newspaper that Finley said three different election dates are currently being debated.
Two separate campaign lengths are being discussed, one of five weeks and another of six. A shorter campaign period is preferable to allow less time for errors, at least one senior official told The Globe.
"As far as Mr. Finley's comments, I think he was simply being prudent," Norquay said. "We'd look pretty stupid if there were an election and we weren't ready. So we'll be ready."
Harper: 'No intention'
Prime Minister Stephen Harper said Wednesday he has no intention of calling a fall election, but will not bow to pressure from opposition parties who have demanded changes to the government's agenda.
"The choice is not an election or obstruction, the choice is an election or give the government the mandate to govern," Harper said in his first news conference at the National Press Theatre in Ottawa since taking office.
Bloc Quebecois Leader Gilles Duceppe has outlined five "non-negotiable" conditions he wants the government to meet in its Oct. 16 throne speech, including an end to Canada's combat mission in Afghanistan by February 2009.
Liberal Leader Stephane Dion has also made demands, including clarification over the Afghanistan mission and the support of Bill C-30 on climate change.
"Obviously, if we don't get approval, the opposition will force an election. That's not my preferred course of action, but if they force that, we'll be ready for it," Harper said Wednesday.
Harper said if the opposition supports the throne speech it must also back subsequent legislation that flows from it -- which suggests Ottawa could designate a series of bills as confidence matters.
One Conservative insider said those bills would come quickly after the House reopens. The Globe reports they will include a fall economic update and legislation designed to toughen criminal-justice laws.
Harper said he believes that an election would likely result in another minority government. With four political parties securing a minimum of 20 seats each, it would be difficult for any side to win a majority of votes, he added.
A Harris-Decima Research poll for The Canadian Press released Wednesday gave the Tories 33 per cent support and the Liberals 31 per cent. That puts them in a statistical tie, given the margin of error of 3.1 percentage points. The NDP is at 16 per cent support, and the Green party at 10 per cent.
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John Barzo
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Ben
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Brian A
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Fitz
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Mike
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Liberals are out to lunch and probably on my tax dollars, the NDP are socialists and only care if we are in a union (THANK GOD OUR MILITARY IS NOT UNIONIZED OR THEY WOULD HAVE THEM ON STRIKE) and the bloc want their own country.
Well I guess the only thing to do is vote for the Harper conservatives that are not afraid to speak out for the average Canadian.
Go Conservatives Go
Tom
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Earl Robert
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Norm
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I for one, give some of the credit to Prime Minister Harper and the confidence people have in his strong leadership and sound approach to managing the affairs of our country. Keep up the good work.
Robert
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"Prime Minister Stephen Harper said Wednesday he has no intention of calling a fall election"
What? Obviously if he has 4 or 5 items that are unacceptable he's causing an election.
Greg from Kitchener
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Give Harper the Majority!
I am such a proud Canadian now that we have a real leader and Government!
I am ready!
JTJ
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Frank
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I will never vote for any Conservatives in the next election because the Liberal party is the best one to govern in the minority government because they did work with the Opposition Leaders to find a way to include their demands. It works. But Harper never used this kind of the model!
Michael (Ottawa)
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Frank
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For example, any bills that Conservatives bring into the Parliament- Harper wants this bill to be passed without any amendments comprise from each parties, and etc. Harper just wants his bill to be passed in his own ideas/ideology which he thinks that it is the BEST one for Canadians.
Hello! Harper is not in the majority government! He is acting like one! Stop it! Harper should act like minority government leader to work with these Opposition Parties to include some of his policies that reflects Canadians needs.
People who voted NDP, Liberal, and Bloc Quebecois- these parties are delivering their policies from the voters that would like to work with Harper. But Harper IGNORES it! That s not right!
Dennis LeDrew
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peppy9
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Harper deserves a majority. Best leader this country had in many, many decades.
AJW
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Hello.
Chris
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Kyle
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D.R. - Calgary
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noel
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Dave
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JSmith
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Peter
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ET
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johnn
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"Harper is supposed to work with these Opposition Leaders to include their suggestions/demand that reflects Canadians needs. Instead, Harper wants his own way!"
Frank, do you mean to say that our government is to set aside its own priorities, and to implement the oppositions' leftist and socialists programs?
We democratically, and according to the rules, elected a Conservative government.
Let them govern, and if the opposition parties can't go along with that, let THEM vote down the current government, and cause an election.
Steve B
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Harper has tried to work with the opposition, but they're trying to force him to take Canada in a direction that would be ethically and morally incorrect.
Before Harper, I was embarrassed to call myself Canadian. Now, things are getting better.
Max
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This isn't the case. Harper, for better or worse is running things as he see's fit - and largely as advertised.
The gov't isn't kowtowing to the opposition because they are in a weak position.
If they weren't, they'd pull the trigger on an election regardless of the throne speech, so let's not pretend otherwise.
The "engineering their own defeat" noise from the opposition is just sour grapes from those that want to make a decision without having to wear it.
Jake
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I am an under-30 Ontario voter and very optimistic for the first time to have federal leadership that is strenghthening Canada's potential domestically and internationally!
It is up to the Ontario populace to wake-up and stop perpetuating the socialism and pessimism that the previous Liberals have instilled on Canada. This Ontario voter will proudly support PM Harper during the next election!
Alan
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Why is the government SUPPOSED to work that way?
The government is SUPPOSED to govern. The Opposition is supposed to oppose. The government is NOT supposed to simply manage a cacophony of often-contradictory demands from the opposition parties.
The many people who voted for Conservatives MPs actually wanted the kind of country the Conservatives were talking about. That’s why we voted for them. People vote for who they want ‘in government’ not who they think will lead the best compromise.
I suspect some may NOT have voted for the Conservatives BECAUSE of the Liberal/NDP perennially fear-mongering spin. Most people likely realize that for what it was and still is… nonsense!
According to the Liberals/NDP, Harper is simultaneously smart AND stupid. He’s masterfully manipulates and conceals a ‘secret agenda’ (while he supposedly ignores a media who can uncover dirt almost anyone anywhere) BUT he apparently doesn’t have a clue how to fix a messed up, over-taxed, ideologically drifting country with no international identity beyond being tepid soup!
Flat out – Harper is smart. There is nothing scary about Harper’s leadership or intelligent, informed action or the platform of his party. The Conservatives know the way to build a better Canada is to govern. You govern by making decision when IN GOVERNMENT, not by bowing to demands of those who are not in government.
Nice argument Frank… but that’s why the Conservatives are called (and I expect will be) “the Government”… a.k.a. the ‘governing party’.
If you want ‘compromise specialists’ who talk and smile while no one is winning… join a union. But please… keep them out of government.
Brian
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Ray Jacques
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Canadian politics 101:
The result of our vote was a minority government. The ONLY way Harper can govern is to work with and gain the support of at least some of the Opposition Parties in order to secure their support for the majoruty votes needed to enact any laws or else the government falls or alternately can do nothing.
Harper also does NOT understand this principle (of course he does - he just playing politics again and treating Candians as the ibbeciles he truly thinks we are)
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Nearly 70% of Canadians oppose the banal morality of this regime and their support of the US war of Terror.
Yes, mini-Bush be another Joe Clark...be just another embarrassment to Canada and this party's naive supporters.
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Matt from out West
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Or if you want to keep dragging out old history, let's crucify the Diefenbaker Conservatives for axing the Avro Arrow project. How many billions of dollars did that decision remove from our once powerful aerospace industry. Yes, that's right, I'm going to hold a grudge against the Conservatives for that.
I'd rather lose another $3.30 to a Liberal boondoggle than be governed by Conservatives any longer.
MarkW
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MM
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Go Conservatives Go!
Rob Z
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Terry N
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1) elimination of publicly-funded healthcare (and without the opportunity to plan for this reality from the time when we were young).
2) diversion of all major Canadian rivers south (and just a few people profit from it).
3) working harder to export oil and taking only a miniscule cut of revenue to invest back into Canada.
4) mass importing of radioactive nuclear waste.
5) inviting terrorism via our deteriorating foreign policy.
6) labeling people as criminals because their values don't match those of the religious right.
A little further down the road?
7) being in-league with a wild-west-style international cowboy-crusader-gang that wages war on religious & economic grounds?
8) amendment of the constitution to make sure the right party is always in power to serve cons at home & abroad?
9) the engineered break up of Canada? Looking back, recounting: "It all started in Calgary, my grandchildren. There was a disgruntled extremist group bent on Reform. They were clever enough to capitalize on the errors of political opponents and then to buy & exploit Quebec, but the purchase & political exploitation of Quebec was, of course, unsustainable and eventually ... and this gave Alberta an opportunity to appear reasonable in deciding to ..."
10) Perhaps quasi-military rule? Jail media dissidents and the like to 'clean up' society? Maybe they won't go that far, but it sure feels like they might wish this would be acceptable to the mainstream. I feel threatened expressing my opinion for the first time in my life.
Rule by threat? "If we don't get what we want, you're going to live with an election-gun trained on your head. We will not accept that you did not give us a majority -- we will advance our agenda by any means necessary."
That's what I'm hearing.
Mr. Dion: You *may* have to sacrifice face in the short term in order to save Canada for the long term. Save your strength -- we are counting on you. You may need to appear to give in to threats in the short term, but we are counting on you to subvert your aggressors in the long run and regain the mainstream for moderates. We must not allow the Reform agenda to succeed.
I call on fellow Canadians to join me in throwing our collective weight behind Mr. Dion.
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It does not mean the Conservatives want an election. There is still a chance the government will continue but what Harper is doing is saying the ball is in the opposition's court.
If I were Harper I would have a couple of my MPs out of town so that more then one opposition party has to vote in favour, see if Jack Layton is really dedicated to making Parliament work.
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Linda
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Secondly, yes, it is up to a minority government to work with the opposition. However, it is also up to the opposition parties to realize who the government is. Both sides of the house need to find realistic middle ground on may issues. I think the NDP is the most ideological party in the house. When have they ever debated anything with the idea of compromising. I have to agree that Mr.Harper is equally guilty, and the Liberals don't know from one day to the next. All parties have to be willing to accomodate. If they did, they could all have something to give back to their supporters.
I voted for Mr.Harper in the last election,and have liked most of what he has done. I think he is right on Afganistan,on the general economy,on the direction we should go to cut pollution,and a host of crome bills.
However,I will vote for someone else the next time. Primarily because his so called "new drug strategy" is a bust. I agree there are some elements that could be useful. But his decision to go on criminalizing people in possession, or using small amounts of marijuana is totally out of touch.
He did leave himself a bit of "wiggle room" by referencing "serious drug crimes". But I doubt he will move an inch.
I think he will keep his base support,but lose most of the more moderates who voted for him the last time.His heavy handed approach will cause many to believe that perhaps the accusations of neo-cons,or religious right, or hidden agenda may actually have some truth to them.
I can hold my nose and vote for one of the lefties. With some regret, I must admit.
johnn
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"Canadian politics 101:
The result of our vote was a minority government. The ONLY way Harper can govern is to work with and gain the support of at least some of the Opposition Parties in order to secure their support .....
Harper also does NOT understand this principle".
I think that Prime Minister Harper understands politics better that a hundred of you, me and Stéphane Dion put together.
If I follow your reasoning correctly, we should elect a minority Liberal government, who would then, according to your "Canadian politics 101" implement the Conservative policies.
PROBLEM: To elect a Liberal government, there has to be a viable Liberal party.
Perhaps in ten years? Hope springs eternal . . .
Jeff S.
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When the opposition parties forced the election in 2005, the Conservatives were 7 or 8 points behind the Liberals in the polls. Once an election is called in 2007, the Conservatives will gain the additional 7 or 8 points they need to secure a majority.
Once the public focuses on what the leaders have to offer, there will be no other rational choice. Can you imagine Harper vs. Dion in a televised debate? Dion's inability to speak fluent English will surely seal his fate.
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noel
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Wayne
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What a waste!
Alistair McLaughlin
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Mark H.
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Mark
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Keith P
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Last time I checked a throne speech did not bring any actual legislation out merely stated an agenda that the government wanted to accomplish.
So in reality the NDP, Liberals and Bloc will be voting down a mission statement!
And really, can most people say that Harper has accomplished nothing? At least on an issue like the environment his party has introduced legislation with defined targets unlike the Liberal plan which for years was to say that we were proudly part of Kyoto while not actually doing anything!
Sheldon in NS
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murdoch1
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He had his chance and blew it!
mike Potter
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Is this the same as saying if the campaign is too long the voters might accendtially find out what the politicians are really intending to do