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Date: Mon. Sep. 24 2007 6:41 PM ET
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was taken to task Monday for casting doubt on the Holocaust, during a forum at Columbia University in New York.
Columbia president Lee Bollinger told the Iranian leader he exhibited "all the signs of a petty and cruel dictator," to enthusiastic applause from the audience.
He then said Ahmadinejad's denial of the Holocaust came across as foolish in front of an audience of students and teachers.
"When you come to a place like this it makes you simply ridiculous," said Bollinger. "The truth is that the Holocaust is the most documented event in human history."
But Ahmadinejad replied that Bollinger's words were "an insult to information and the knowledge of the audience here."
He accused Bollinger of being influenced by U.S. politicians and biased news agencies.
"I should not begin by being affected by this unfriendly treatment," he said.
Ahmadinejad quoted extensively from the Koran during his appearance, expounded on the relationship between science and enlightenment, and claimed Iran itself was a victim of U.S.-supported terrorists.
He said members of the Iranian government had been killed in an attack by U.S.-supported terrorists, though he didn't name the alleged attackers or provide other details.
He also spoke out against governments that "tap telephones" and was critical of what he described as governments that unleash an "onslaught on the domestic cultures of nations."
Ahmadinejad didn't directly answer a questions about whether he sought the destruction of Israel, but instead discussed the plight of the Palestinian people. He received loud cheers from the packed auditorium when he demanded whether or not the Palestinian situation was an important global issue.
Ahmadinejad also claimed European academics have been put in prison for "approaching the Holocaust from a different perspective," and defended Iran's nuclear ambitions. He said Iran has the right to develop nuclear technology and has never intended to use it for violence, nor has it hid anything from international inspectors.
At another point, Ahmadinejad denied that any homosexuals lived in Iran -- a comment that prompted derisive laughter from the audience.
Unfazed, Ahmadinejad persisted: "In Iran we do not have this phenomenon. I don't know who's told you that we have this."
He spoke to The Associated Press prior to delivering the speech at Columbia and a scheduled address to the UN General Assembly on Tuesday.
"Iran will not attack any country," he told AP in an interview.
Ahmadinejad, who has in the past referred to the Holocaust as "a myth" and called for Israel to be "wiped off the map," added that Iran has always maintained a defensive stance as opposed to an offensive one.
He also said he doesn't believe the U.S. is planning to attack Iran.
"That is not how I see it. ... I believe that some of the talk in this regard arises first of all from anger. Secondly, it serves the electoral purposes domestically in this country. Third, it serves as a cover for policy failures over Iraq."
Ahmadinejad seemed to strike a diplomatic tone during the interview, AP reported, describing Iran's foreign policy as based on humanitarian concerns and the pursuit of justice.
The controversial leader sparked outrage over the weekend after he said that he wanted to visit "Ground Zero."
Police and New York City officials have already said he won't be allowed to go to the site because of security concerns.
Ahmadinejad told the CBS news show "60 Minutes," in an interview taped in Iran on Thursday, that he doesn't believe that his visit would be considered insulting by all Americans.
"Why should it be insulting?" he said in the interview, which broadcast Sunday.
"Usually you go to these sites to pay your respects. And also to perhaps to air your views about the root causes of such incidents. I think that when I do that, I will be paying, as I said earlier, my respect to the American nation."
However, he said he won't push the issue if he is not permitted to go.
With files from The Associated Press
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I applaud the budget, even though Health Care and education may stay unscathed. Sadly this cannot last and I worry to later this year where cuts will become enviable. If anything, this provides the Wildrose Alliance plenty of ammo when an election is called.


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rob o.
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Whatever you think of this individual... however crazy you think his views are... let him speak and then decide for yourself...
T Kendell
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Jason B
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Censorship is undemocratic, and ultimately insults the intelligence of the people it is supposedly protecting.
Much of what we know of Mr Ahmadinejad is from the media. Now, people will have a chance to really listen to what he has to say, and make up their own minds.
Eric
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'You can't debate a person and challenge them if you don't hear what they have to say.'
Isn't this what all this fighting over the years has been about?...Free will?
peter
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Michael
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Matt
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Anyone who doesn't see this as hypocritical is buying into the hogwash the Bush administration spoon feeds you on a daily basis.
Paul
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Mohamed Bakr
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Steve
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Ryan
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Brian A
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Buster Brown
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Ahmadinejad will likely be around for some time.Give him a chance ,you gave the other guy one.
PJ
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At this point, 'we don't care what you say' isn't censorship -- it's a predictable reaction.
To the person who said it is all part of the US demonizing others, why not go to Iran yourself and ask to visit some site of historical wounding to make statements with a hurtful political perspective. Then see how your rights are respected.
As someone who actually knows a person killed in 9/11, I think it is pretty awful to imagine such a person spouting whatever bile comes to mind over this husband and father's tomb.
I don't espouse violence and hatred to deal with the world's problems, but am cognizant that there are those out there who seek to bring it to my doorstep no matter what I think and how I behave.
Betty Gorven
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This man may have horns and a tail or he may not. I prefer to find that out sooner rather than later. Look where it has gotten us accepting the propaganda of those who have brought us to where we are today.
If for no other reason than the irrefutable fact that we owe it to our grandchildren to at least make the effort.
T Kendell
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What do you then tell your kids when they sympathize with him?
Roger T
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George W. Ahmadinejad
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Michael
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Much good comes from trying to accomodate others who differ from us but to think we will ever achive peace on planet earth is pure fantasy as long as we have evil in our midst. Therefore when those who have a track record of wickedness I don't need to go out of my way to accomodate them but to avoid them or confront them (war) if unavoidable.
Alex
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Bias, self-serving attitudes toward others will come back to hurt you - this is a lesson many people down south still haven't come to understand...
President Ahmadinejad may or may not be trying to bridge the gap between two radically different societies. But until we ALL start taking steps to listen, understand and learn to compromise, we will continue to remain as such.
Sam Berg
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Happy Canadian
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U.S. and Canadian soldiers and civilians have paid a great price, often throughout history, to protect the rights of all people, even those who do not deserve them.
However, the visit to Ground Zero would be nothing more than a terrorist sponsoring state thumbing their nose at those that died, and their families, in this terrorist action. Strictly a PR move to show he can insult the Great Satan in the place of the greatest inflicted wound.
If the officials allow it, the people should stop it.
I particularly like the Canadaian Human Rights pamplet reportedly being spread by Iran. This would be worth reading. Black is white is black.
Phil Long
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Sidney H.
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Lance
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I wonder if Michael Moore will have tea with him.
Michael
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Wasn't it not long ago we put a guy behind bars for spreading hatred toward the Jews and calling the Holocaust a fraud. Why would we want to allow this hatred filled man in our midst? Civil societies don't engage these people. Those who think Ahmadinejad is here to build bridges is dreaming in technicolor.
Michael
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"People are not born violently opposed to others - they're a product of the way they're treated."
Alex, Muslim kids are taught to hate the Jews in school in Gaza (fact). They have guns placed in their young hands and taught that they need to kill and resist the Jews. I don't see Jewish kids being taught to hate the Muslims. That difference is ALL the difference I need to know in order to respond to people like Ahmadinejad.
GW
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All those who say they still need to decide for themselves may need a cat scan. How much depraved blithering do you need to hear before you decide?
The only good that will come out of this is the students will learn what a first class nut job is like and the CIA or what ever they call themselves will get some useful Intel.
Craig
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However, INVITING him to talk at Columbia is giving legitimacy to his views which is wrong.
farsheed
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Devin Duke
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farsheed
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I respect your thoughts, however, there is an error in it. Iranian society deson't dislike American society and there is not much difference in them. 2nd error, is that this fundamentalist governmnet in Iran was designed and helped to put in power by the US government, just like the other one in Afganistan!
People should understand oil and money is the motivator for what goes on in the Middle East. Do not group the society in there, it's insulting.
Mohamed
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I listened live to the speech of Ahmadinajad that you refer to. The man, in my understanding, never meant genocide of the Jewish people as the media made it sound. Many of the world, including in Israel, believe that the racist Israeli political system that dicsriminates between the Jewish and non Jewish citizens inside Israel has to change. Recently, the Israeli Knesset passed a law banning the sale of lease of land to any non-Jewish citizen of Israel. Imagine Christians with Israeli nationality have no right to buy or lease any land. If this is not racism then what is racism?
Al
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I am recommending that we have a new award program that nominated and awards (who loves Israeal the most)
Michael Le Couteur
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ance
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Extremism in the name of any god is abhorent but inevitable. Every faith demands of its followers a blindness to the rights of anyone outside of the specific group.
Progressive Secularism that values all humanity simply for being human is the only hope for the world.
Abandon deliberate ignorance.
Doug
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It's unfortunate that he is unwilling to allow western views to be expressed in his country.I'd be willing to bet there are millions there who would appreciate some of the rights he is shown in the USA.
In the US,he is free to speak,and disagree with the US government.All those rights in spite of the fact he is not even a citizen.
In Iran, someone espousing views not supportive of the state just disappear.After being tortured for a few days.
Shame on this man and those who believe much of what he says.
Lance
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Jonny
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Mamad
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Those who talk about Ahmadinejad being evil, and is trying to persue a nuclear weapon and attack israel are sheeps that follow anything the media puts in their head. Iran has never attacked any country and never will.
Phil Miller
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Paul S
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DC
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Max Wedge
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A Canadian in Norway
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kris
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JM
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Jim H
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Jesse
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Can anyone answer what possible educational value does Ahmadinejad provide with statements like "we don't have homosexuals in Iran" ?
The Iranian studies prof. at Columbia university was against this speech because now he has to go to his class and address all the lies so that they can get a proper education.
Ms.M
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Kim
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Loran
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Uwe Warkholdt
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I do not understand how military action would resolve anything more than it has in Iraq. Perhaps dialogue may be the answer.
Alex H-S
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I have talked to Holocause survivors, soldiers who imprisoned them, soldiers who freed them and German citizens who were force marched through the camps when they refused to believe what the allies accused them of supporting. The tears and pain in their eyes is not easily synthesized. With all the bad actors out there, I doubt such good ones would be out of work.
As for the Nuclear issue, I could care less if they're building their own nuclear weapons. Why worry about just those ones with the number of nuclear weapons in Ukraine and Kazakhstan that went missing after the fall of the Soviet Union. Besides, if anyone (and I do mean, ANYONE) uses a nuclear weapon in this day and age, the world will come down on them with little more than everything in existance. Hence why nuclear weapons have not been used in combat since 1945. VERY bad for international policy.
Ahmadinejad's calls for violence have me very worried though. Although most of the world is anti-American, he's also calling for the destruction of the Israeli state while suspected of allowing terrorists to operate within his boarders. People who say "leave them be" seem to forget about a man who was elected leader of Germany in 1932. He too blamed other countries for the suffering of this people and the loss of their way of life (although he was more justified in that). He also wished to solve the worlds problem by answering the "Jewish Question". The League of Nations (The UN's predecessor) did nothing to stop Germany's expansion and military development. Nothing happened until Hitler's unimpeded head got so big that he invaded Polland. At that point it was only a Military Alliance (much like to coallition in Afghanistan and Iraq) between Polland, France and Britain that the world acted. Due to the soft-spined quibbling of the greatest organization in the world tens of MILLIONS of people were killed.
The one constant throughout history is everything. History repeats itself until we choose to do something about it. I recomend starting by getting rid of the 5 permanent member of the UN Security Council. The five that are there are just like our politicians here in Canada. They will disagree with an issue as long as their opponent supports it.
Evil prevails when good men stand by and do nothing.