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Date: Wed. Sep. 5 2007 10:12 PM ET

Former prime minister Brian Mulroney directly and bitterly blames Pierre Trudeau for his greatest political defeat: the failure of the Meech Lake Accord that recognized Quebec as a distinct society.

In a CTV documentary to be broadcast Sunday -- and in his soon-to-be-released memoirs -- Mulroney recounts how Trudeau used a personal vendetta to turn the public against an Accord that was supported almost entirely by the political class.

"(Trudeau) called me a weakling, he called us cowards, he called the premiers snivelers," Mulroney told Lloyd Robertson, CTV's chief news anchor and senior news editor.

"You name it, it was all there, it was a vicious personal attack."

The Meech Lake Accord was a set of failed Constitutional amendments hammered out by Mulroney and the 10 premiers, including Quebec's Robert Bourassa, in 1987. The Accord was designed to persuade Quebec to endorse the Canada Act.

Mulroney had hoped to upstage Trudeau, who had failed to persuade Quebec to sign onto the 1981 Constitution after months of debate with the premiers. And it was clear in the interview that the failure of the Accord still troubles Mulroney deeply after 14 years out of office.

Mulroney accuses Trudeau of being jealous of his success in bringing Quebec onside, which is why he said Trudeau and his political followers torpedoed the Accord. He said this view is even supported by one of Trudeau's inner circle.

"One of his cabinet ministers, Francis Fox, said 'Look, the only reason for this, is that Pierre Trudeau doesn't want Brian Mulroney to succeed where he has failed'," Mulroney said.

The Accord died in June 1990, when Newfoundland and Manitoba failed to approve it. The fiasco of Meech ended up generating a sense of disappointment toward the federal system and led many Quebecers to reconsider separation.

"He had the option of being helpful, or being destructive -- and he chose the destructive course," said Mulroney.

While vigorously defending his achievements, Mulroney also dug into Trudeau's past, including the flamboyant former prime minister's refusal as a young man to fight in the Second World War.

"This is a man who questioned the Allies and when the Jews were being sacrificed and when the great extermination program was on -- he was marching around Outremont here on the other side of the issue," said Mulroney.

"He's entitled to make that kind of decision. But it doesn't qualify him for any position of moral leadership in our society."

Mulroney's comments echoed those by critics who blasted Trudeau for riding around rural Quebec on a motorcycle during World War II while wearing a 19th-century German army helmet.

In the 2006 book "Young Trudeau," the authors pored over the young Trudeau's private papers and revealed that the future federalist once plotted to take Quebec out of Canada and embraced francophone nationalism -- while shrugging off reports of Nazi atrocities as British propaganda.

Authors Max and Monique Nemni say Trudeau's attitudes can be attributed to the influence of his upbringing and the norms and mores of the day. But nevertheless, it shocked many to learn of the ideals and influences embraced by the 1930s and early 1940s-era Trudeau.

The two-hour special, Triumph & Treachery: The Brian Mulroney Story, will make its television premiere Sunday, Sept. 9, 2007 at 7 p.m. (check local listings) on CTV.

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Rawror
said

I am a strong Liberal but I've never been a fan of Trudeau. That being said, it is lowest of the low and shows how childish Mulroney really is when he takes shots at a man who has since past. As well, the Nazi sympathizer information is not concrete. There is no direct proof that Trudeau was a sympathizer, only hearsay. There were also a lot of Nazi sympathizers in North America at the time, the same as some people sympathize with Taliban fundamentalists today. Two completely different wars I know but during WWII, people here didn't know the full story either. Mulroney is ABSOLUTELY WRONG when he says Trudeau was parading around in Quebec while everyone knew about the concentration camps. Nobody knew about them. The Allied forces didn't know about Hitler's "final solution" until AFTER they made their way into Germany and Poland, which is well into 1944 - 1945. Just like your time as PM Mulroney, you never had your facts straight before you started mudslinging...

F.H. Don
said

More useless diatribe from a bitter old man. How quickly he forgets that he was the most detested Prime Minister of modern times.


Cam S
said

Ok, so Brian isn't perfect, but in the long run, his legacy will likely outshine Trudeau's.

It's tough to be a politician. You can't please everyone all the time - and at least that much is certain.





GP Victoria
said

I am not a Liberal, and since Harper I have completely given up on the Conservatives. But this is a new low, even for Mulroney.

Has Mulroney ever taken any responsibility for anything? Like almost single-handedly wiping the Progressive Conservative Party out of existence. Mulroney was, and still is, a complete loser...to bitterly attack a deceased Canadian Prime Minister of Trudeau’s stature and importance. Mulroney should look at his long list of mistakes before he opens his mouth again...



Mike M
said

Trudeau has done more to harm Canada then anyone I can think of.

Hated or not; Brian did a lot of good when compared with P.E.T.


Steve Carr
said

For all his claims to be the perfect federalist, this was certainly one time that Trudeau failed the nation...in a huge way. Whatever anyone feels about Brian Mulroney, Meech was good for Canada, and Trudeau did everything in his power to torpedo it. He allowed his over-developed ego to get the better of him...surprise, surprise! As a westerner, to this day I have nothing but disdain for Trudeau and his Liberal toadies.


Mark D. W.
said

Mulroney will go down in history as one of the best prime ministers in Canada based on his achievements. This has nothing to do with being a Liberal or Conservative, and if we look at his record objectively, I believe we'll have to give him credit for what he's accomplished. Historians in the future will do that for him, even if we today are unwilling to give credit where it's due.


A. Landry
said

The facts have to be on the table. The two most important reasons that Meech was scrapped is because there are so very few francophones in Newfoundland and Elijah Harper voted against Meech (by showing an eagle feather instead of a hand) in the Manitoba legislature, because aboriginals had no say in the accord. I don't feel an ex-PM's comments could have affected its ratification.

Find another excuse, Brian.


Robert
said

Mr. Mulroney should go back under whatever rock he was hiding under.

Useless PM in his time and he has groomed another one named Harper.


CFL
said

How easy to place blame on a deceased person for his perceived personal political loss. Maybe Pierre's comments were based on actual Canadian beliefs. Just because he was heading a gov't does not mean that all Cdn's agreed with him. I personally was against it and also feel the majority of Canadians were...of course I could be wrong and just be personally thinking of Mulroney as a "weakling or a coward".


Mark Erwin
said

Mr. Mulroney was probably one of Canada's great if not greatest prime ministers and the shame is that he will likely not receive the credit he is due. Canadians don't like successes...it makes the middle class feel its mediocrity. It was via Mr. Mulroney's bringing in the GST (not popular-I know) that the deficit was slayed, he brought in NAFTA to the terror and 'the sky is falling' from the predicatable 'left' and Meech very really could have been a success but for the selfish, petulant, childish and myopic ego-infested personna that was Pierre Trudeau. Let us not forget Trudeau's legacy of national debt, 'multiculturalism' (can we admit that this has failed yet?), gutting the military (an miserable legacy staunchly upheld by Chretien and Martin), steeply rising taxation and the list goes on.

I wonder if we could persuade Mr. Mulroney to give it one more go??

Thanks Brian, for everything.


jonathan sorenson
said

I've got to respect a man who's willing to take a hit for the team.

Introduced GST...politically devastating ... in reality it replaced the Manufacturers Sales Tax which was strangling Canadian industry.

Pushed through NAFTA ... again not easily ... but the best thing that ever happened to Canada.

He was in a hard spot having to clean up the economic mess left by Trudeau and he will always have to deal with people who don't understand good economic policy. But in the end he was one of the most influential PM's ever.


DERON
said

Actually, Mr. Mulroney, it was the people of Canada that defeated the Meech Lake accord. That's right, Sir, it was us simple minded commoners that ruined your stupid plan. I know that you can't understand why your province should not be placed above all the others - however, the biggest factor in the defeat was the public's hatred of you personally. I am a Conservative and I think that you were the worst and most arrogant Prime Minister that this country has ever had. Period. You will never take responsibility for anything you've failed at in your entire life. It will always be somebody else's fault.


kevin
said

Mulroney sucked as a PM... remember GST, free trade, jobs leaving Canada. The man should just leave the public eye all together. Meech failed because of him and that's all!


Elinor
said

....
As PM Mulroney's last loyalty was to Canada as a country. His first, to himself and self aggrandizement, his second to the Americans who he seemed to think could help with latter.


Tamouh
said


... I bet if Mr. Trudeau was alive with us today, he'd have enough clever words to shut Mr. Mulroney out.


Rod A
said

I agree that Newfoundland has very few francophone speaking individuals, but that is not the reason they voted against. Newfoundlanders are also a distinct society, but you didn't hear them jump up and down proclaiming this.

Nuff said.


Gary
said

As I review the comments, I conclude Mulroney and Trudeau to be great leaders by the extremes of love and hate directed toward them. Those who do nothing evoke nothing. As to the best, well I think Mulroney takes the cake- he found time to take on three big issues in 8 years. Trudeau spent most of his years focused on one, which Mulroney would have fixed for him had Trudeau allowed him.


Bill Williams
said

Mr. Mulroney has a lot of warts but compared to Trudeau he is an absolute saint and godsend. Trudeau, I detest the man. Ran our country into the ground, trying to be some anti-American, pro-communist, European socialist country. What have we got to show for it? Oh, a bill of rights that takes powers away from parliament and gives it to unelected judges. Talk about elitist! Trudeau the bright one, runs against wage and price controls and then implemented Stanfield's program as soon as he beat him. Just another Liberal,say anything, do anything to get elected. But heh, at least some thought he was cool...


Cochese - Trudeau Voted Worst Canadian
said

It is no wonder why Trudeau was voted the worst Canadian by Beaver Magazine.


Sara - War Measures Act in Canada
said

Adolf Hitler imposed the war measures act to become chanceller of Germany. The only Canadian in Canada to impose Marshall Law and suspend civil rights under the war measures act was Trudeau.


Padro Mansbridge
said

Many are surprised to learn that it was the Republican party that freed the slaves. I guess Liberal marketing these days likes to try and rewrite history, we can question Brian Mulroney's motivation for telling us about this, but we cannot question Trudeau careless attitude by wearing the helmet.


Devin Maxwell
said

You just didn't get it done Brian... You just didn't get it done.


Michael
said

I see the 'looney lefties' have once again weighed in to attack Mr. Mulroney and anything that is conservative. The problem these lefties have is that anyone with an opinion which isn't shared by them isn't entitled to voice that opinion by their standard. That of course makes a complete sham of their cries for "tolerance" while they themselves are the most intolerant of people. Conservatism is alive and well in Canada whether or not they happen to appreciate or even understand it which they don't.


GB
said

Isn't he busy enough hosting Canadian Idol?


Al
said

Both ruled for the times and they will both go down in Canadian history as people who made a difference. There were accomplishments that I supported and some that I cringed at, but unlike some posters here, I don't for one minute think that I could have done a better job. No matter who becomes PM, it's only four or five years before they fall out of favor with the media because they're bound to upset some and it's still the squeaky wheel that gets the oil. Then there are those who simply hate anything if they didn't vote for it.


Gregory Boudreau
said

It is so easy to blame others for ones failures.
I think you can blame the failure of Meech on two people: Elijah Harper, and Clyde Wells, period.
I do agree that Mr.Trudeau made mistakes, but name me one Prime Minister who didn't.


Daniel B.
said

Let's look at the facts...Trudeau did not support the war effort to stop Nazi tyranny, admired and praised the mass murderers Mao Tse Tung and Fidel Castro, loved the Soviet development of Siberia made possible by the slave labour of the Gulags, introduced the War Measures Act which took away albeit temporarily our fundamental freedoms. What more does it take for his defenders (all Left wing it seems) to get it right? Have they no moral compass?


Mike Reeder
said

Trudeau and Mulroney were both arrogant and self-centered, but they both also had the courage to fight for what they believed in. These seem to me to be AMERICAN qualities, ironically enough.

New Brunswick is also a very distinct society... and looking around at all the people who head out west, it will some day be an extinct one as well.


Tom Oldhorse
said

Mulroney like a lot of ex politicians enjoys targeting people who are no longer able to comment in return ... to make themselves larger ....in "their own eyes" Rantings of an old man that should quietly disappear ....sooner rather than later ... a very sad state.


Paul malouf
said

It is easy to blame a competitor after they die...


Allan
said

These people are not NEWS anymore. Why not focus on what is going on today and not what happened 20 years ago or during WWII. So let P.E.T rest in peace and let Mulroney do whatever the heck he does but not make it news!


Susan
said

Reading some of the comments made, really makes me laugh. There were in history Prime Ministers far worse than either Treadeau or Mulroney. That said no Prime Minister stands alone, he or she has the support of a party and more important then that the vote of the Canadian People. Each Prime Minister contributes both good and bad policies in their leadership. However, I think Mulroney has further proven to me by his arrogant finger pointing, that during his time as leader of this country, we were being lead by a childish adolesent. Meech Lake failed because it was flawed. Part of that flaw was Mulroney himself. Time to grow up BRIAN!!!


Marie
said

I was too young to remember Trudeau but a little older when Mulroney was Prime Minister. The only thing that's changed over the years is his age. He's as cocky and arrogant today as he was back then. That's why Canadians hated him, that's why Canadians STILL hate him. Go back under your rock and bring your fastcash "memoirs" with you.


Cecil
said

Mulroney was only trying to repair the damage caused by the Liberals when they repatriated the constitution without unanimous consent.



André
said

Where Canada would be today had the Meech Lake been passed...It was approved but had a delayed claused in by Trudeau for any Constitution amendment of 3 years...that gave Trudeau, Chretien and their muppets enough time to destroy a great initiative...Mulroney did more before breakfast for the good of Canada than Trudeau did in 18 years.


adam saunders
said

Pathetic...bad mouthing a dead man is cowardly. Mr Trudeau was correct in calling Mr Mulroney a coward. Pierre Trudeau will always hold a special place in Canadian history. Mr Mulroney will hold his "appropriate" place in Candian political history.


Po
said

Funny how all conservatives remember about Trudeau is the war measures act (which was needed at the time to quell the unrest in Quebec). No one seems to remeber that HE is the one who stared down the protesters following De Gaulle's stupid speech and he did a whole lot more for Canadian unity that any Conservative ever did.

Jack Dreaddy
said

Personally, I don't like Trudeau because he was anti military and couldntt handle the economy properly if his life depended on it. he was also condescending towards the provinces. Treated the provinces like children that need their hands held. Mulroney has a really bad wrap. He had the biggest majority of his time in the 80s. He got French, Westerner, Atlantic, Albertan Canadians on his side. He nearly got Quebec to sign the constitution with Meech lake. he took action to get rid of the deficit. All of what he did was necessary, the GST, everything.

trubull
said

Rawror is absolutely incorrect about knowledge of the Nazi death camps. The allies were very much aware of the death camps. In fact, they had thought long and hard about how they could initiate bombing action without hurting the Jews in the camps. In the end they decided that it could not be done. Mulroney is right and it is long overdue that the truth come out about Trudeau. He was one of the worst Prime Ministers that we had.

Steve
said

Mulroney was always jealous of Trudeau and it shows in this bitter attack on a person whose light always shone brighter than Mulroney's thus causing the everlasting envy and bitterness that Mulroney apparently still carries with him.


Norm Shanahan
said

Brian Mulroney will go down as Canada's greatest P.M. So fuddle duddle to all you P.E.T. lovers


Craig
said

A man's passing does not immunize him from criticism... particularly when the specific criticisms are deserved. Trudeau's shortcomings were nearly as well documented as his successes, albeit largely ignored by virtue of his charismatic and arrogant leadership style (nothing wrong with that; a good leader should have a little swagger). Fact is, Meech was one of a long list of PC endeavours to clean up the Liberal mess they were left with (eg. hightened taxes, depleted military, record deficits, Quebec, etc). Can't fault Mulroney for trying to right the ship - nor Harper for attempting the same presently.


Mike N
said

Two things have become evident over time...1) Pierre Trudeau was probably the worst prime minister in Canadian history, nearly bankrupting an entire nation, forcing bilingualism down our throats and multiculturalism that we are all paying dearly for and 2) Brian Mulroney has still not gotten over the key things that made most Canadians detest him...arrogance and bitterness. He may be right about Trudeau but to say it now without Trudeau around to defend himself is inexcusable.


John Scott
said

Don't we sound just like your Conservative brethren to the south when they mouth their insufferable battle cry, "It's all Bill Clinton's fault". Grow a spine you putz, take responsibility for the failure of your years of governing and the destruction of the conservative party.


Lorne
said

Before demonizing Mulroney, ask yourselves "does my job/company rely on exports to the US to survive"? If so, you can thank him and the Free Trade accord he brought in for your job. If not for him, we would be saddled with an even less productive economy and would probably no longer be part of the G-8. And it has been proven that consumer taxes such as the GST are much better for the economy than manufacturer's taxes such as the MST. No offense to Trudeau, but I have no idea why a Prime Minister like him is considered the greatest PM and Mulroney is the most hated.


Raymond
said

As much as he P.O'd me while in office, I grew to respect Mr. Mulroney more after his departure from politics. His policies have been beneficial for Canada, and ego aside, he left us in very good shape...unlike P.E.T and his DISASTROUS Charter of Rights and Freedoms.


Dave
said

I was going to buy this book thinking that Mulroney mellowed or perhaps he would cast some light on some of his actions.

I guess I just saved forty bucks.

Yes Trudeau helped kill Meech Lake- And how is that a bad thing???

Trudeau may have been a nationalist, spoiled, rich, Mount Royal shit disturber but he regected nationalism when he grew up- especially the kind of nationalism that led to systematic destruction of some 10 million people.



patricia
said

Mulroney is WRONG about Trudeau. How low to sink to always blame others,especially the dead; which shows just how small a person Mulroney really is. Mulroney was never a responsible leader and to continue such a childish attitude and behaviour only demonstrates how small a person he really is. If he is attempting to leave a legacy for himself, he is dreaming and his mind is obviously living in an imaginary fantasy.

Vince M.
said

Having lived through both prime ministers, and having bitterly disliked the GST I can still say the Trudeau, not Mulroney was the most disasterous for Canada. On the home front there were deiecits, social policy, destruction of our military, multiculturalism and the National Energy Policy. Internationally he supported Mao and other communists, vacationed with Castro, and stuck it to our biggest trading partner every chance he got. And as we find out recently from research he was a separatist, a nationalist, a communist and a death camp denier in his younger days.

This is a hero to some Canadians?


Marc D.
said

I understand Mr. Mulroney for being very upset with Trudeau's (and his followers) negative involvement in the meach accord process. He really wanted this to succeed. As a practical leader, and not the philosopher Trudeau was, he wanted us to turn the page and put the sad episode of the constitution behind and, as a nation, concentrate on the economic challenges ahead. Anyone refusing to believe the Liberals were instrumental in the sabotage of the meach Lake accord was just not watching the same news.


Blaise MacLean
said

As far as I am concerned, the Meech Lake Accord fell because of all the special interests that tried to get their pet projects included in the constitution. I voted against it because I could not bear to contemplate Parliamentary seats reserved for people due to their ethnicity or gender.



Russ
said

C'mon folks, enough already with the "but-he's-dead-so-how-dare-Mulroney-say-nasty-things-about-him!" Does it not matter to you that he may be right? Trudeau was no different than any other old bitter, jealous old academic.

Nicole
said

What a pathetic attempt to re-invent history and to smear someone who is not around to defend himself. Wouldn't expect less than that from the blarney master.

Forte
said

More hash and rehash from Mulroney.If anyone is to blame it is Mulroney.It was he who sold out Canada to the U.S. of A.It was he who tried to break up this country by trying to appease the French with Meech Lake.Unfortuntely where he failed to do so thanks to Canadians and not Mr. Trudeau,another neocon,namely Harper,succeeded by making Quebec into a nation.


Ross Douglas
said

Mulroney - the greatest cry baby to this country has been exposed. To try to shift the blame of Meech Lake to Trudeau is the height of hypocracy. I guess it is too late now but Mulroney should just be quiet and contemplate his failures and political disasters. Any one who was disgraces like he was should slide out under the door.


Allen K
said

Meech Lake was bad legislation that came about as a result of groupthink and without the slightest bit of public consultation. Had it passed, amending the Constitution, in any way, would've required unanimous consent of all provinces instead of the 7/10 50% formula. Given how rare it is for all provinces to agree on anything, the Constitution would've been doomed to become an archaic, outdated piece of legislation in fairly short order. Meech Lake was Mulroney's attempt at a legacy and THAT is why he's bitter. Now his only legacy is being the most despised Canadian PC Prime Minister in modern history, if not the most despised overall.


Martin Warren
said

Trudeau may have been no saint, but to be fair, his economic record of 'mismanagement' has to be compared with that of all those other financial geniuses of the time...Nixon, Callaghan, Brezhnev, and Mao. It's too easy to criticize looking back.



Michael
said

Of course Mulroney has the right to criticize Trudeau!! Pierre Trudeau may be a fond memory in the minds of Liberals but he wasn't well liked or respected among Canadian who cherished our traditional Canadian family values which have been decimated due to his Charter of Rights and Freedoms (so called) which opened up a pandoras box and destroyed the moral compass of this once great nation.


IAN
said

History will show 'Pierre Himself' to be a traitor. I came to Canada in 1966 the same year Trudeau ( a communist supporter) wrote in City Libre "the only way to take control of a country is not to form a new party but to infiltrate an existing one and take it over". He did that and ruined paradise!


damien
said

Raw ror- YOU sir are incorrect. I am a student of history, and it is well known that the british knew about the nazi attrocities well before the landings at Normandy, Churchill wrote about this in correspondences in his 6 volume set of books entitled " the second world war".

Eric
said

Everyone of you whom have spoken in favour of one of these men have bashed the other to make your case. You're no better then either Mulroney or Trudeau. Fact is, we haven't had a CREDIBLE PM since Pearson. Maybe we should ban Lawyers from running for office. Seems to be the prerequisite of political incompetance.


Stephen Hall
said

While Brian Mulroney did contribute to Canada In some positive ways, I find his attitude to be arrogant.

I really resent the implication that Pierre Trudeau, Elijah Harper and or Clyde Wells scuttled Meech/ Charlottetown Accord. Ordinary Canadians like myself scuttled the deal, remember the vote we had where acceptance of the initiatives didn't even come close?

I like a lot of others took the time to read the documents (put out by the Mulroney Government), listen to the arguments and then make a decision. Bottom line is that Mulroney didn't convince myself and many others that this was good for Canada.

From a personal perspective I found that the accords attempted to unite the country based by giving everybody what they wanted in an effort it to be the one cited by history as having obtained unity. Unity based on division is not unity!

Unfortunately, Mulroney, Chretien and others seem to have been more focused on shaping their legacy than acting in the best interests of Canada. To me this is the ultimate act of arrogance. Your legacy should be decided based how you governed, as opposed to how you govern being structured to create your legacy.

Bottom line Brian is that as per the results of the referendum/plebiscite we had you didn't manage to sell the Canadian people the benefits of the agreements for Canada. To ignore this fact and imply that you were a visionary scuttled by Trudeau has to be the height of arrogance........or perhaps you just consider all the rest of the Canadian population to be lesser beings who cannot make informed decisions!


Tom Hawley
said

Political !
Mulroney is only trying to rehash old wounds. Look what Trudeau did to you people in Quebec. He was not involved with politics for close to twenty years because people disliked him. Of course we belive he made errors as we beleive he has done great things. As for the Beaver Magazine naming P.E.T. as worst canadian, where is this magazine published? ...

Charles B
said

I am starting to wonder about Mulroney's intelligence. Arrogance at that high a level indicates little capacity for self awareness.

He also implies that he has moral authority where Trudeau did not? We should not take any lessons from Mulroney on morality unless we consider criticizing dead people for self serving purposes to be a noble act.



jmp
said

Okay, let's stop with the finger pointing we are all beyond that.

We all know that every gov't points a finger at the previous gov't and every gov't takes credit for things that the previous gov't did.... it's called POLITICS!

Mulroney is a jackass, Trudeau was arrogant big deal... both of them had their time in office and now both are out of office... END OF STORY!!!

So, let Mulroney cry in his soup and let Trudeau rest in peace.... and when it's Mulroney's time to rest in peace I hope we let him do just that.

It's time to turn our energies to what our current gov't is doing to help the planet... NOTHING!!!!!

It's time for all Canadians to step up to bat and start demanding our gov't start seriously doing something NOW... not in 10 years!



Don
said

.... let's just see who fares better in history. We won't be around to find out, but I'm betting the farm on Trudeau!

I'll be watchin' the Mulroney interview just to see him do the "Conservative shuffle" around the facts. Should be good for a few laughs!


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