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Date: Wed. Sep. 5 2007 5:15 PM ET
TORONTO There is no reason creationism could not be taught in addition to evolution and "other theories" if private religious schools are brought into Ontario public school boards, Progressive Conservative Leader John Tory said Wednesday.
The Conservatives are promising to give private religious schools $400 million if they opt into the public system, teach the provincial curriculum, hire accredited teachers and administer standardized tests, Tory said.
But that doesn't mean Christian schools couldn't teach creationism on top of the existing provincial curriculum, he said after touring a 100-year-old Jewish school in a Toronto suburb.
"It's still called the theory of evolution," Tory said. "They teach evolution in the Ontario curriculum, but they also could teach the fact to the children that there are other theories that people have out there that are part of some Christian beliefs."
The Liberals quickly jumped on that comment, saying it would be a violation of the Ontario curriculum -- which already teaches evolution -- for creationism to be taught outside the context of a religion class.
Tory later clarified his remarks to say that he meant creationism could be taught in such a class, and that he did not mean to suggest the two theories would be given equal weight in a science lab.
The Conservative election promise to fund religious schools would ensure all students get a more well-rounded education, because it would make the schools subject to provincial inspections, Tory said.
He called it unfair that Catholic schools get tax dollars while other faith-based schools are left to struggle on their own.
"There will be some that will disagree with that," Tory said. "But I think people will respect ... that I'm actually putting forward a proposal as to how we can deal with an issue that's been around for decades, and that I'm prepared to talk about it without fearmongering."
Education Minister Kathleen Wynne -- who is running against Tory for her Toronto seat -- said Tory's comments prove he hasn't properly thought out his policy. Creationism is currently not part of the provincial science curriculum and isn't given the same weight as evolution, she said.
Catholic schools may talk about creationism, Wynne said, but only in the context of a broader religious discussion.
"It's useful for students to have the opportunity to know the ideas that are out there and are part of our history," Wynne said.
"What we teach as the truth is the question. The scientific truths are the ones that are included in the Ontario curriculum. That's the curriculum that we support."
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The chance of the destruction of our planet is very very small with this collider, but who are these people to decide what risks are acceptable for all of mankind? It puts me at unease and adds to my anxiety. CERN acknowledges that there are miniscule risks -- they admit to it so please spare the convoluted retorts.

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Isn't this a secular country? I don't want my taxes paying for ANY religious teaching institution, not catholic, not protestant, not muslim, not hindu and not any other one. And I'm not an atheist or anything but I'm a strong believer in the separation of church and state.
We shouldn't have to pay for people who choose to belive in certain things. If anything, we should remove catholic school funding and all other government religious funding.
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Why not vote for Jesus too.
Come on people. Religion should not be part of politics. Not even close.
You have the right to your religious views, just don't force them on me or my kids.
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ie; the option to opt out of the public system, fully fund their childs PRIVATE education, then receive a cut on property taxes for the education portion. Enough with the teacher's unions running the government while this joke of a system turns our kids into morons!
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Will the public school religion of secular humanism win the day?
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Evolution is also not a FACT, if science class were to only teach facts then there are a lot of things we are currently teaching that shouldn't be. There is another big one right now being taught that is not fact; oh what is it, that’s right Global Warming. The evidence supporting the Big Bang and Evolution are just as flawed as those supporting Creationism.
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Good animated overview at:
http://mythicjourneys.org/bigmyth/
John Tory's brand of PC is very much "special interests" rather than representing the people.
I wasn't so much in favor of Dalton, but Tory is Scary!
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It has always bothered me that my tax dollars fund secular theories of origins to the exclusion of creation...
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Just text message your friends during evolution class I guess.
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Don't worry, if you don't like it, you are not paying for it.
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Myths have no place in serious education. Their readings could possibly be studied in a literature class.
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Revoke funding for all religous schools, Catholic included.
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Skippy the Bush Creationist
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In short…this guy is out to lunch.
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Besides, in the end the kids will decide for themselves, with or without $400 million of every hardworking Ontarian's tax money, religious or not.
But these points still dont touch on the bigger picture: the Ontario PCs are UTILIZING RELIGION AND EXPLOITING THE DEVOUT TO FURTHER THEIR ELECTION PLATFORM.
Any believer in higher power should be angry at this.
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Some people say this is the end or the beginning of the end of the separation between Church and State. I hate to tell people this but there has never, ever been a separation between Church and State any where. Our leaders, we voters, etc have religious feelings and beliefs and they guide our decisions every single day.
We put a separation of Church and State on paper to make us feel good and dare I say morally superior to the third world nations but we aren't that much different when it comes to our beliefs guiding our decisions.
Really I see this as a non-issue that will appeal to a lot of parents and rile up some of the lefties.
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The PC's will present this, the same way Mike Harris presented many of his ideas. They sounded good until we saw the inclusions, he had omitted.
For one thing, with this issue... think about the size of public schools. Many have over 500 tudents. The government does not want to fund small neighbourhood schools.
Now consider the size of most religious schools. The PC's won't say it to start, but you can be certain these private schools will be forced to amalgamate, so their size matches the provincial standards.