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N.S. girl rejected from boys-only day camp
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Date: Fri. Aug. 10 2007 5:49 PM ET
A young Nova Scotia girl's desire to join a boys-only summer day camp has sparked a debate over whether the gender segregation is discriminatory after she was denied admission to the program.
"Kids should just be kids. They should be able to play with whoever they want and it should matter what their gender is," nine-year-old Lydia Houck, of Windsor, N.S., told CTV Atlantic.
When nine-year-old Lydia Houck of Windsor, N.S. reviewed the summer camp options available in her area, a camp called 'Rec'n the Outdoors' piqued her interest.
The camp included fishing, hiking and golfing, which were all activities that Houck and her seven-year-old brother Jonah enjoyed.
"My brother and I were interested in fishing and we liked to be outdoors and nature so it seemed to appeal to me and it was pretty much the only camp that had that kind of description," Lydia told CTV's Canada AM.
However, the camp was just for boys. The only camp that was created specifically for females was called "Glamorous Girls," where the camp activities included spa visits, manicures and pedicures.
The Municipality of the District of West Hants is offering three other co-ed day camps, but the trip to the amusement park, a day at the waterslides and pirate-themed excursion did not appeal to Houck.
Houck called the recreation department at the Municipality of the District of West Hants but was informed that she would not be admitted to the camp, a decision that did not sit well.
"It made me feel like that they were segregating children because of their genders," Lydia said.
It's a sentiment that is shared by Houck's mother. "I'm in 100 per cent support," Lorna Houck told Canada AM.
"I mean she has a valid point and I don't see any reason why children at the elementary school age should be segregated and stereotyped into male-type activities and female activities."
The Houcks did not take the rejection lightly, and after making a series of phone calls, reached municipality warden Richard Dauphinee. While he sympathized with Lydia's predicament he did not feel much could be done to address the situation.
"This is a pilot project, we've never run it before," Dauphinee told The Canadian Press. "They decided they would try just girls things for the girls and just boys things for the boys and see how it worked."
Windsor councillor Gary Cochrane said that while it's the first time the municipality has tried a program that isn't co-ed, the Houcks were the only family to complain.
"We've had one out of 18,000 residents complain, and we've actually had parents that phoned in and encouraged us to stay with this," he told CTV Atlantic.
Jacqueline Warwick, the co-ordinator of gender and women's studies at Dalhousie University in Halifax, told CP she was "astonished" a municipal government would be behind segregating boys and girls into traditional gender roles.
"I do think that there is a widespread movement to restore these very repressive, old-fashioned gender roles,'' said Warwick.
"This emphasis on frivolity ... can be understood as a way of occupying girls' and women's time. They spend all their time and money on these activities. It's a way of containing women and girls into these safe stereotypes where they're not going to disrupt society.''
At Dauphinee's suggestion, Houck has submitted a letter to the local council concerning the matter, but she is holding out little hope for an immediate change to the situation.
"I don't think they're going to let me go to this day camp, but it's not really about me anymore," Houck said. "It's about telling the world."
With a report from CTV Atlantic and files from The Canadian Press
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Brent
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The horrors of it.
Bob
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Theresa
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Joe Caverly
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Joe
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Let's applaud the town for making the effort to provide day camps, make constructive criticisms, and get on with life.
I still maintain we must have it very good in this country to be down to complaining about the things we do.
Michele
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Are any of the other camps girl only?
Richard P.
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In other words, if there is a fishing camp for boys, then there must be a fishing camp for girls.
Also, unless there are privacy concerns, ie. no separate washrooms, showers, sleep facilities, etc., then there is no reason these camps need to be segregated.
In the real world, women and men work side by side.
Get with the program.
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The kids all interacted great and no one ever had a problem. It was a very positive experience.
However. I'm not sure it's a good idea to break into a gender group just because you can do it.
Gregory Boudreau
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As a result, my daughter is very comfortable doing basic car maintenance, plus carpentry, electrical and plumbing work on her home. All four children, sons included, are great chefs.
Someone could/should have done some kind of survey to see what types of activities were desired by both genders and tailored the camps accordingly, instead of arbitrarily determining "girl activities" and "boy activities."
As for integrating the camps, my experience as a person, parent and several year camp counsellor, tells me that most boys don't want to associate with girls, and vice versa.
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I say if some young ladies/girls want to go fishing, than lets go fishin'! And if some young men/boys want to enjoy a day at the spa than lets go to the spa! Why can't all the camps be Co-ed?
The age we are in now is not about seperating girls and boys. Our advanced society should be about giving both genders the opportunity to choose which activities and later on which careers they want to do.
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Margaret
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Some Guide camps do offer these sports and are open to non-members girls. Check your province.
Samantha from Halifax
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I feel sorry for the girl that none of the other programs that would have allowed her to attend do "outdoorsy" things, but maybe the rec dept. will rectify that for next year. I don't blame her for not wanting Glamour Girls type events either, young girls are just being marketed things meant for older girls/women with that type of camp, in my opinion.
The bottom line is that she didn't like the choices that the other camps offered and so... time to cry foul. Her parents should have just told her sometimes we don't get what we want, and left it at that!
This has become another nothing issue being fired up by the media.
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I'm all for equality of the sexes, but I think the bigger focus should be on offering an outdoor girls camp that offers what it offers the boys. Let's face it, we live in a society where many young girls are more content doing 'boys' activities rather than having 'girly' spa days.
As far as segregating the camps, go one them! Let boys be boys together and girls be girls together without the added pressure of the 'does he or she like me?' syndrome that seems to going around kids at such a young age. I also think that the segregation is not such a bad idea when there have been allegations of sexual impropriety in day camps by other campers. Give all of the kids the options, segregated or not.
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Where I think the problem lies in this day camp situation is that the 'girls only' option reeks of negative gender stereotyping!! 'Glamourous Girls' camp brings images to my mind of a group of pre-adolescent Paris Hilton/Hilary Duff/Lindsay Lohan/etc. wannabe's sitting around primping themselves. Some girls might really enjoy this, but many of the ones I know would probably find the boys' camp activities far more interesting.
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Quoting story: "This is a pilot project, we've never run it before," Dauphinee told the Canadian Press. "They decided they would try just girls things for the girls and just boys things for the boys and see how it worked."
Having lived in this area, I'm hardly surprised at this attitude that boys and girls have distinct and separate interests. It is archaic.
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Scouts Canada was forced to go co-ed, and it was ruined as a result. Yet a boy was still forbidden to join the Girl Guides. What a nice double standard.
We had to have a female leader attend all events where girls were present. If no female leader was available, the event was cancelled for everybody instead of just sending the girls home.
Gender segregation is not necessarily a bad thing. There are some things boys and girls should be able to do without the other gender being present and complicating things.
JKB
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The real issue here is why are there no such camps for only girls? Girls need to be encouraged to do all the outdoor stuff!
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Michele
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Is this girl learning she can't have everything she wants? I think not. Could this be the problem with alot (not all) of young people today?
Debbie
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I can't join a women's only fitness club why should she be allowed into a boy's only camp? I am sick of the double standards that women (in general) have.