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CTV News: Steve Chao on the protesting pressure
CTV British Columbia: Dave Lefebvre with the families
CTV British Columbia: Mike Killeen on Olympic politics
CTV Newsnet: Family of detainees discuss incident
CTV Newsnet: Losel Tethong, brother of Canadian detainee
Canada AM on Tuesday, Aug. 8, 2007: Lhadon Tethong, Free Tibet Group

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Date: Wed. Aug. 8 2007 9:13 PM ET

Three Canadians who were detained with other activists after demonstrating against China's occupation of Tibet have been deported from the country.

Lhadon Tethong, Sam Price and Melanie Raoul, with a number of other Tibetan activists, were released from detention and flown to Hong Kong Wednesday.

They are expected to arrive in Canada sometimes Thursday.

"We were kept in a room, all six of us, and had to sleep in chairs for the past 14 hours," said Price, 32, after landing in Hong Kong.

All three are members of Students for a Free Tibet. In addition to the three Canadians, the detainees included protesters from the U.S. and the U.K.

Price and Raoul, 25, both of Vancouver, were detained Tuesday after they unfurled a 42-square-metre banner on the Great Wall that read "One World, One Dream, Free Tibet 2008."

The official slogan for the games is "One World, One Dream."

Family and fellow activists gathered in Vancouver to celebrate the release of the protesters.

"We were just so proud," said Raoul's sister, Alain Raoul. "It takes guts to do something like that, but there was a side of me that though, 'Why does it have to be my sister?'"

Tethong, a Victoria, B.C. resident and the executive director of the group, was taken into custody on Wednesday along with British colleague Paul Golding.

She was apparently speaking to her New York office when police took her into custody, and the conversation has been posted online by the group.

Tethong had been in Beijing for the past week, attempting to bring attention to what the group says are China's broken promises to improve human rights leading up to the Games.

The group was deported after a massive celebration in Tiananmen Square to kick off the one-year countdown to the Beijing Olympics.

Tethong's brother Losel Tethong told CTV Newsnet he was relieved to hear that his sister had been released, but said the family would remain concerned until she had left Hong Kong and was en route home.

He said he had not yet spoken to his sister.

"I'm hoping to," he said. "But as you know, Hong Kong is still a part of China so we're not quite sure yet. This news is just in the last few minutes. We're not quite sure yet whether or not we'll be able to speak with them even when they're in Hong Kong."

Pollution concerns

Meanwhile, China came under pressure from Olympic chief Jacques Rogge, who is in Beijing and said that some of the 2008 events could be postponed due to air pollution.

"It is an option," Rogge said Wednesday.

"Sports with short durations would not be a problem, but endurance sports like cycling are examples of competitions that might be postponed or delayed."

China has spent billions in an attempt to reduce pollution, shutting down a host of factories and relocating others outside of Beijing, but has seen few results so far as non-stop construction and booming car sales continue.

The Wednesday comments represent Rogge's strongest remarks on the subject, which has been a concern for Beijing organizers since China won its bid for the Games.

"For him to say that, it's very much a warning call to Beijing and the Chinese government that they better clean up their act, if you will, and try to clean up the air," Chao said.

Wang Junyan, the director of cycling events for the Games, agreed China needs to do more.

"Rogge's comment reminds us that we have to work harder to fix environmental problems," Junyan said.

Some countries have said they intend to have their athletes train in locations outside of China right up until their events, in order to reduce their exposure to the heavy pollution.

With a report from CTV British Columbia's Dave Lefebvre in Vancouver

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Doug
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Jacques Rogge's comments about delaying certain events or even postponing them in China should be a wake up call to other countries in the future who want to host the Olympics. Clean up the polution or no games. How can the Olympics crack down on doping and then allow events like running and cycling take place sucking all those chemical into their bodies. If countries like China that have poor air quality keep getting awarded these games, the athletes will need doping to combat the harmful chemicals they are breathing in.


E J Kay
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Given Canada's suck up approach to China I'd say those being held are on their own. Canada certainly won't pressure China on any issue, especially things like this.


Michael
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Canada is a much more developed country than China, but the native people in Canada are still under without clean water, without electricity, lack of education condition. Comparing with the Canadian government, the Chinese goverment are doing every effort to improve the life of Tibetans.

NotAChinese
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Pollution is just not about the Olympics. It is amazing to hear people showing greater concern about how athletes will suffer sucking in the pollution in the short time that they are in Beijing THAN the people who lives there and will continue to suck in the pollution after the Olympic.


Anton Kovacevic
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When you visit another country you are obilgated to follow that country's rules no matter how you may feel about those laws and or rules personally if not do not go to that country.

Mark Peters
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How is it that nobody is boycotting the Chinese Games when the host nation arrests people for daring to scribe "Free Tibet"?

sclark
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The awarding of Olympic games in China was supposed to bring about change on the issue of human right. The detaining of our citizens and those of the U.S. and U.K. for the simple hanging of a banner is outrageous. We send troops to Afghanistan yet we stand by and say nothing about China's treatment of Tibetan citizens. Every Canadian team member should go to China with a Tibetan flag and a Canadian flag to carry in every parade and carry to every winners podium they stand on


Scott Buck
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Contrary to what the majority seems to be saying on the poll regarding the people detained for protesting, I think their actions are noble. These protesters entered China to fight for a cause they believe in, knowing full well it was against the law and that they could be detained. The fight for human rights in China, and elsewhere for that matter, is an honourable one and without people representing the cause, the issue would remain grounded. That being said, at no point should the Canadian government get involved to secure their release. These people knew what the potential consequences for their actions were and hopefully don't try to wiggle out of their situation using their Canadian citizenship.

nathan
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I have no pity for people who are detained for knowingly violating the explicit laws of a forign country.


Fingers
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If you go to a foreign country with the intention of disturbing that country's peace, then you should be subject to the full force and extent of their laws. Why should the Canadian people be made or expected to back these troublemakers? They knew what they were doing and they knew the consequences if they got caught.

Brent
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So what? They thought the local government would think its funny and put them on the evening talk show? They broke the local law, now they are in jail.

Mike
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Comments from Michael that "Comparing with the Canadian government, the Chinese goverment are doing every effort to improve the life of Tibetans." is a complete distortion.

China is preventing Tibetans from choosing their own spiritual leaders. Since when did the Canadian Govt. enforce control over selection of spiritual leaders for native groups.


Peter Diespecker
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When you break the laws of a country, there are consequences that go with it, whether or not those laws are just is another conversation for another day. As for boycotting the 2008 Games, I say let's do it- that'll show'em.

Laurie
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This is just another example of why China should never have been granted the right to host the Olympic games. China's total disregard for basic Human Rights stands in direct contradiction to what the Olympic Games represents.


jdawson
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The history of the Olympics hasn’t been good when it comes to hosting countries having good social freedom or representing the ideology that is part of the Olympic movement. If it was you wouldn’t have seen the committee assign the games to Berlin (1936), Tokyo (1940 Games didn’t take place). Selecting host countries has a history of bribes and some very questionable lobbying.

To suggest that having China host an Olympics will make them become a better place is a little silly. After Sarajevo hosted the games the country fell into war.

I think the time has come to just host the Olympics in one location such as Athens every four years and remove all money and politics that currently exist around hosting the games.

Ivy
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Those people deserve to be detained in China, and those who thought they were doing it right need to read over Chinese history. Tibet is part of China ever since China was established. Why would these CANADIANS want to separate part of China?

Jon
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What did they think was going to happen?
As for the games in Beijing, it just goes to show how political and commercial the Olympics have become.

Al
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Anton writes:When you visit another country you are obilgated to follow that country's rules no matter how you may feel about those laws and or rules personally if not do not go to that country.

I don't believe that a "look the other way" attitude is a globally responsible thing for us to do. would you look the other way if you knew that the children next door were being abused? We're all neighbors!


John
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Activits deserve to be jailed. I don't care if they think their cause is justified or not.

Josh Robinson
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If the human rights issues upset you, write to your MP and copy External Affairs. Saying something here will do very little. If you say something to people you pay (via taxes), to do external affairs, you may have a greater impact.

As for following the law in a foreign country, if the said country is a blatant human rights issue violator, this is known by the UN and it's member countries. China happens to be a violator. This news story is reporting on the grass roots version of the UN's charges.


Carol
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Most of the comments seem to miss the point that China will not even acknowledge that Canadians are being held - regardless of the reason, right or wrong. Canadian citizens are being denied consular access. This is outrageous! If a visitor can be held without basic representation - well, this is a country we should have nothing to do with - Olympics or not PERIOD.



Pat
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As a Canadian, you shall follow Canadian rules in Canada. When you travel abroad, you shall respect the rules over there. There is no exception because you are a Canadian.


Eric
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I think the Canadians were brave going to China and protesting on behalf of the Tibetans. Now they and their family in Canada should remain brave and accept the consequences of their actions.


Frank
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These folks seek to embarrass China ... yet they only succeed in embarrassing Canada. They are totally ill-informed and misguided -- and have way too much time and money at their disposal.


Michael
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It doesn't matter how prosperous China has become they are as repressive and outdated as any third world country in terms of human rights. Chinese culture and government needs and overhaul.


Richard
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Richard wrote that these individuals went into a foreign country and intentionally broke their laws.

I visited Beijing this past March. As a visitor I was welcomed and had an amazing trip.

These people broke their laws and should endure whatever punishment is given by Chinese authorities. Canadians must realize we can't go into other conutries and break laws. Although, I feel grief for their family, they are adults and knew what they were doing was against the law.


Blaise MacLean
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I saw the CTV online poll question on this and it was disheartening to see that almost 3/4 saw the protests as "foolish" , not "heroic".

As a country, I fear that we are losing our moral core when we think it is "foolish" to stand up in defence of an oppressed, victimized people.

I suspect that a lot of those who said "foolish" admire "heroism when they read Harry Potter or watch Jason Bourne or John McClane (I wish Americans could spell that name!), but when it comes to real life you neither recognize it nor respect it when it stands in front of you.

The 75% who voted "foolish" need to look in a mirror.


Brenda
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China is the 2007 equal to South Africa. A corrupt police state, where people can't even think. I think it's sooner or later that the Chinese people lose their fear.

For those who say "Mind your own business", we certainly felt the plight of blacks in South Africa our business.


Gord
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I speak with my money…I go out of my way, and will pay extra, to NOT buy Chinese goods, for reasons of quality, safety, and health. I also do not want to support the Chinese government’s totalitarian approach to just about everything and everyone, except money. Internally China has staggeringly huge social and growth issues it will need to come to grips with in the next couple of decades.

John Faux
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I think the people knew they were going to be detained but it isn't foolish, they are trying to raise awareness of China's horrific human rights record in the West. They have provoked discussion.

Joel
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Forget respecting laws, if these laws repress freedom of speech and try to sweep human rights issues under the rug then they should rightly be challenged. Anyone saying otherwise is a coward or just doesn't care.


Wes
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I think that the protesters are foolish and immature, however not allowing consular access is just pig headed on the Chinese governments part. The Olympics are corrupt and a waste of time and money we should pull out.

Ilona
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Chinese Government does contribute money; send resources and people needed to Tibet to help develop the area. The problem is that the person wants to be a leader of the Tibet is not agreed by Government of China. This is political thing, let’s not get involved.


Mark Christensen
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Yes I did vote foolish, and would add immature if I could. As oppresive as China may be,the same act in any other nation would have gotten them arrested as well. DO not go into a foreign nation, with the sole intent of breaking their laws and then try to hide behind your Canadian passport.


Trevor D
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Persons who travel to other countries to protest, however well intentioned, should expect to be detained and deported. They should consider themselves lucky they were not imprisoned. International travellers would do well to remember that not all countries are as tolerant of dissent as Canada.


Sophie, Ottawa
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So...

Remind me why China got the Olympic Games again??


Erica
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I think these protestors show a lot of courage and bravery. Often we as Canadians are sheltered from the rest of the world's reality to know what it would be like to walk in the shoes of a Tibetan. They did the most selfless thing a person can do which is to give up your basic freedoms to try to free a controlled nation. As a Canadian I am proud that others have taken up the cause of trying to free Tibet instead of trying to free Paris Hilton.


Susana
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One voice can make a difference - Rosa Parks did for the Blacks - these people are the small voice that becomes a roar and does accomplish change. As Blaise commented, we have 'lost' the voice we once had and become blase about world issues until they hit us directly ...... the world is a global village and we are all villagers.


Barb
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I don't think the issue is whether or not the protesters were arrested -- they fully expected to be arrested, after all they were poking the giant with a really big stick. Their goal is to raise awareness of a human rights issue, and they've done a tremendous job of that. Whether you agree or disagree with their cause, the awareness of the issue has gone up significantly and is also causing the world to look at Beijing with a more critical eye.

It doesn't matter what the issues are in your home country. Just because something isn't perfect closer to home doesn't mean you can't take up a cause elsewhere.

When the games come to Vancouver in 2010 I hope Canada's "dirty laundry" is similarly aired -- but tolerated, as would be expected in a free society.


Thomas
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I wonder what people would says, if next year, in BC protestor display messages that state that Canada should free Quebec?


Dan
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I find it difficult to hear comments from Canadians criticising these heroic people. The Chinese have murdered hundreds of thousands of Tibetans since it invaded the country. China claims it is all in the name of progress. I have visited Tibet and have seen yes-industrial progress but also spiritual and cultural destruction and suppression. Tibet has always been prosperous but there is a tendency to judge prosperity simply through economic values. Canada is an example where spiritual and cultural freedom can exist hand in hand with industrial progress. History has demonstrated that personal freedom must always exist with economic prosperity otherwise conflict is inevitable. What is happening in Tibet is nothing less ethnic cleansing.


Heidi
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I agree, you knowingly break the law, you accept the consequences. But no one seems to remember that China invaded Tibet, telling them it was for their own good. Doesn't anyone listen to the Dalai Lama?
China deserves to have this shoved in their faces.

The Canadian Consulet should also have access to Canadians in Chinese custody.


LT
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It serves you right for going into a communist country to protest!


Gordo52
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Mike said, "China is preventing Tibetans from choosing their own spiritual leaders. Since when did the Canadian Govt. enforce control over selection of spiritual leaders for native groups." Are you saying the schools that our gov't sent all the natives to don't count!! Are you saying all their missionaries who went into native villages and forced their Gods on the Aboriginal People were right in what they did. I hope not!



John
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I understand protesting in front of Chinese embassies and consular offices outside China, but to go to China and do what they did just leaves them subject to Chinese laws and government practices. Their intent was heroic, but their actions are foolish. They're lucky the Olympics are so close, otherwise they would have faced a fate much worse than deportation and would probably face a trial and certain jail. There's was a foolish mission, no matter what their intent is.


Doug Rutherford
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After reading some of the comments, I do have to agree with the point that travelling to a foregin country to break its laws definitely deserves all of the legal punishment that country has to offer.

As to the Olympics comments, who cares? It's the Olympics. It's not like it's anything important.


Darrell
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I think it would be more appropriate if individual athletes would threaten to boycott the games due to the pollution aspect. This would prove to be more beneficial in the long run. Can you imagine how low the ratings would be internationally if only a handfull of candidates were vying for the medals?


Vince M.
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Its all so hypocritic. Go to China to complain about Tibet (which has always been part of China with various levels of autonomy over time) but use computers, all of which are now made in China, to publicize their concerns.



Shawn
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Well I'll boycott the Beijing Olympics. It's easy to do. And I usually boycott the Olympics anyways. It's so fake. The countries that have the most money (China & US) will get most of the gold metals. Simply because they can afford the best coaches and best training facilities. It's not about athletics, it's about which country can afford the costs of winning. Who will win? U.S. or China?


David
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I am so tired of those ill-informed, generally well to do with too much time on their hands, trying to ease their conscience by globe trotting around trying to save the world.

There are major political, economic, adn social issues surrounding the Tibet situation. I challenge Ms. Tethlong to please provide us all with a detailed action plan on how to resolve the situation.

I don't expect an answer as this circus event will surely be forgotten.


Mark Cheung
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I admire the students for their passion and courage for what they believe and pursue justies for others.

But anyone press their view on others must be careful if they have the full understanding of a situation and the history leading to the situation. How would a true patriot compassionate Canadian react to a foreigner promoting Quebec's sovereignty in Canadian soil. My opinion is "Freedom of speech a very precious matter, use it in a treaurable manner and never fall into the trap of propaganda tool."






Tseten
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FYI for those who commented on this blog that "Tibet is a part of China". Please dig deeper into the Tibetan History and you shall know TIBET WAS NEVER A PART OF CHINA AND WILL NEVER BE A PART OF CHINA. Do not be misled by fake propaganda spread by Chinese authorities. ... Hearty Thanks to those who took the Tibetan cause to the height of Great Wall of China.

David
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Why does the government of the People's Republic of China treat the citizens of other countries better than they treat their own? If it was PRC citizens who displayed the banner, the punishment would have been much more severe than what these students faced.


Dennis
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I am not saying China is a saint or anything. But if it's such an evil empire like some would want to portray it, would you see these people protesting there?
Brave, my butt! What a bunch of naive cowards.


Chris B
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I am stunned and offended at the tact the Canadian press has taken in this story. The Globe & Mail and CTV are complicit in furthering the lies of the Chinese government. Teachers in China are banned from teaching children about the Tiananmen Square massacre – do you think we can trust their characterization of anything else?

I have been to Tibet. The people there are subjugated like South African blacks during Apartheid. 1 in 5 Tibetans have been killed since the “reunification” of Tibet. The only time in history that Tibet and China were under one rule was when the Mongolians conquered them both. So to say that they should be made part of China again is like condoning Germany invading Greece because they were once both part of the Roman Empire. To belittle the protests of this, and any other group, by noting China’s “propaganda campaign” in quotes is nothing more than catering to China.

Try finding Tibet on Google Earth. You can’t. China banned Google from offering that if they wanted to do business in China.

Try creating a Hotmail account with the word Tibet in it. You can’t. Same reason.

This chat is fully moderated. Let’s see if this message stays up.

So much for a “free” society in China, and so much for an “educated” and “independent” Canadian press.



Tan
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I suspect that the Canadians were released without incident because they are trying to save face for the Olympics. But the fact of the matter is, dissenters within China are captured and held prisoner without trial everyday in China.

Jason B
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Living in Japan, I regularly hear China's criticism of Japan's view of The Second World War. Yet, The Communist Party of China (CPC) enshrines Mao Tse Tung. Mao and his supporters were responsible for the deaths of 70 million people. At least Japan has learned from the past, whereas China has since behaved like a true communist thug (invading Tibet, intimidating Taiwan, kidnapping Canandian citizens even, backing dictatorships in Africa).

I praise these people for doing what many world leaders have failed to do. There's nothing foolish in the actions of these people who stand behind their convictions.

Matt
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If you go to China to protest, expect to be arrested and don't expect Canada to bail you out. These people should know better, it's a different world over there.


Tashi
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The 3 Canadians are heroes. Yes, they did know that they would be arrested. At the same time, they knew that it was more important to bring to focus the issue of Tibet especially when China is using the Olympics to further their propaganda. As a Tibetan refugee in Canada, I thank them for standing up for Tibetans, especially those inside Tibet who are unable to do so. Raoul, Price and Tehtong are the face of Canadians who believe that everybody deserves basic freedoms as a human being.

Steve, Vancouver
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I agree that one should obey the laws of the country they are visiting. But with unjust laws that discriminate, would you obey them as well?

There are about 30 Chinese journalists being detained.

Did you know that in China, the law allows authorities to arrest and detain people without charges for upto 4 years?

And yes, the Canadians have a right to seek protection using the passports. Otherwise, they would be excuted in China. Their organs would end up for sale and the bodies would be mixed with meat that they export.


D. Petruk
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And I wonder what Maurice Strong has to say about this?
Did Maurice Strong talk to his Chinese associates about letting these people go?
Did he do anything at all?

jmc
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I feel the method used to protest was foolish. To be heroic, more wisdom and 'legal' actions over a long-term period would need to be shown. Diplomatic actions that convince the Chinese government to think differently about Tibet, and educate Canadians further on the cause would begin to be heroic.


j.j.yang
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Would not it be a good experience for those activists to first get their hands wet by exploring ways to find solutions for the problems aboriginal, homeless people in Canada have to face? I was wondering how most Canadians would react if they were to put up a similar banner on the Parliament Building to promote Quebec's independence. Even in Canada, RCMP would detain someone if s/he were to disobey the law and order.

We should respect their passion, but don't have to share/endorse their opinions and/or acts.

P.S.

For those who claim Tibet has never been part of China, please provide readers with historical facts. I'm sure many readers, including myself, would be more than willing to look at the facts.

Thomas
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China has Human Rights issues, always has, always will be. Canada's approach to trying to convince China to change their ways reminds me of a kid begging for candy at the store (or that new shiny fancy toy)

Sad, just plain sad.


Paul
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Totally agree with Jason B.

There's major atrocities committed by the communists since they took over after WWII and the country remains in their grip. There's no less dead since their take-over and billions today remain uneducated and live in extreme poverty BECAUSE of this conglomerate. As a Chinese I do not identify myself with this administration as much as I can not identify myself as a Japanese.

Tibetans, like other minorities in China, were at some point part of the empire and at some point independent. No one should force or torture them into identify themselves as 'Chinese' if they dont want to. NOT especially by the Communist conglomerate. The greatness in the Chinese culture is not built on forced assimilation. If we (Chinese) have a great country, representative government and great system that benefits and respect all minorities, Tibet or Taiwan will stop being an issue. The communist conglomerate has been calling on nationalism so they can defend their grip.

There are laws and then there are laws that build humanity.

I commend the Canadians for breaking laws to raise awareness.

John watkins
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China is not a democratic country and these Canadians have no right to participate in democratic reform or actions which might offend that state while visiting.


Tibetan-Canadian
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Reading some of these comments really frustrates me. Here the Tibetans are, the only truly peaceful, non-violent liberation movement in the world, and people berate Tibetans and supporters for protesting in China. What does non-violence truly mean? It requires consideration of a variety of non-violent methods, and this is one that has definitely worked in garnering attention. We wouldn't have been talking about Tibet today if not for these actions. In fact, as a keen Tibet observer, this was the first incident which brought Tibet onto the first item of news on both major Canadian news networks. It's not going to free Tibet, but it's accomplished more than the usual attention the Tibetan plight recieves. If as human beings, as Canadians, we truly want a peaceful world, why not educate yourselves on the Tibetan issue. By solving their issue through negotiation and peace, it could serve as glowing example to the rest of the world. Instead, we tend to belittle their actions, and turn good people violent. The Dalai Lama will not be alive forever (whom has told Tibetans that even Hunger strikes are a form of violence), and it will be a shame if the Tibetan cause turns violent. Not to say that it will be intimidating for anyone, but it will nonetheless be a shame to humanity who let the peaceful Tibetans down.

Kristi
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The reason that the protesters were brave is that I am certain that those who unfurled the banner knew they would be arrested/deported. And yet they did it anyways because they felt the message was important enough. Sometimes you have to flout the law for a cause and be willing to face the consequences, they have done this.

For all those who said what if someone from another country came here and supported Quebec separatism, come on people, this has happened, remember de Gaulle's Vive le Quesbec libre comment. That people were upset is irrelevant, the message is he wasn't detained as a result. That is the difference.

I find the 'mind your own business' attitude disturbing. It is important that we concern ourselves with human rights violations all over the world, especially for those people who are repressed by their governments. Apartheid South Africa is a good example and, my Tibetan friends in exile raised in refugee camps tell me that without a doubt Tibet is another.

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