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Date: Sun. Apr. 19 2009 9:44 PM ET
Prime Minister Stephen Harper is praising the crew of a Canadian warship after they helped chase and detain Somali pirates who tried to attack a Norwegian tanker in the Gulf of Aden.
Speaking to reporters at the Summt of the Americas in Trinidad and Tobago, Harper said the crew had done "tremendous work" in the operation.
He also noted that Canada had "acted within our legal authority and also within our capacities."
HMCS Winnipeg, patrolling with other NATO vessels off the Horn of Africa, responded to a mayday call issued by the Norwegian-flagged vessel Front Ardenne after a band of pirates approached the vessel late Saturday, officials said.
The pirates fled after the Front Ardenne alerted nearby warships.
The Winnipeg gave chase, along with U.S. and British ships, and warning shots were fired to get the pirates to stop, Canadian military officials said. After several hours of pursuit, Canadian sailors boarded the small skiff and detained the group.
They found a rocket-propelled grenade, said HMCS spokesperson Michael McWhinnie. But after further interrogation, the pirates were released.
"We obviously act within our legal capacities, and also within our capacities," said Harper. "In this case we briefly detained the pirates and disarmed them, and I think those were the appropriate measures under those circumstances.
"Obviously, Canada always uses force when necessary, but only when necessary."
Canadian forces had to release the pirates because they cannot be prosecuted under Canadian law as they did not attack Canadian citizens or interests and no crime was committed in Canadian territory, NATO officials said.
Pirates have attacked more than 80 boats this year, about four times than in 2003, according to the International Maritime Bureau.
Pirates currently control at least 18 ships and hold more than 300 crew hostage.
HMCS Winnipeg and the American ship USS Halyburton, which also took part in this weekend's operation, are part of an anti-piracy NATO force patrolling the Gulf of Aden, a busy transport short cut between Europe and Asia.
With files from The Associated Press
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Please let's not even entertain any protectionist responses to this issue. Canadian consumers go south to shop because of the cheaper prices. How about resorting to competitive pricing as a solution...that will keep Canadian shoppers at home.
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Jason Toronto
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Better yet lets try out the US Navy's testbed electromagnetic rail gun we could load it up with 50lbs water balloons and launch those suckers from 300kms away! It would keep within that UN water only mandate!
Cheers Jason Toronto
Joel
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What they are doing is wrong. There isn't a justification for hostage taking, but it's intriguing that a thousand or two men can wreak so much havoc, even with warships lurking around.
I'd do the same thing in their situation. It's a no brainer. You can either basically sub-exist, or risk your live and have one chance in four of pulling in a small share of one or two million. I bet these guys are role models to other Somalis. There must be an incredible Us vs. Them mentality in the coastal regions of Somalia right now.
Good on the NATO navies for preventing the taking of hostages and ships. Good on you for being professionals too.
Shame on the other nations of the world - including Canada for not stepping up in Somalia. Countries need to determine their own destinies, but it's our duty as a wealthy nation to offer some form of no strings assistance. It doesn't need to be strictly financial.
viv
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DJ
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There problem solved.
Disgusted
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Prof. Pye Chartt
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Its very easy for the far right to ignore the social factors that cause lawlessness.
Its not like they have schools to go to, so they can study business or learn a trade. Its not like they have a wallstreet work on, making money on derivatives..."
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TRANSLATION: These "fishermen" (pirates) don't actually have a choice. They have to engage in dangerous criminal activity using lethal weapons. It's the fault of every person and country who has made money by capitalist means.
Thanks for the standard left-wing, socialist gobbledygook.
You can rock yourself to sleep with it. (Be mindful that your bleeding heart doesn't stain your baby blanket.) I'll add it to my file entitled: "GUILT-TRIPPING LIBERAL HOGWASH."
Mark W
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JB in Ontario
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G
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John R Mac Intyre
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Why Release Them...So They Can Pirate Another Ship
Sink Their Boat & Let Them Swim As In Days Of Old !
(No Ones Watching)
fitzz
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It is completely ridiculous that Canada should maintain an ocean-capable navy at considerable taxpayer expense; sail its ships half-way around the world; catch the bad guys - and then let them go! Am I really reading this?
Shake your head, Mr. Harper! Wake your friend McKay up and get him to shake his too! This is NOT a moment to be proud of.
Chris in Toronto
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But about Canadian military ships arresting these Somali criminals and then releasing them due to Canadian laws, that's an easy way to make their effort really pay off: calling on the nearest military ship that belongs to the very same country the seized commercial ship belongs to, Norway in this case, and transfer the criminals into their own judicial jurisdiction, the problem is most of the NATO countries have drastically reduced their military budgets (as part of the anti-war, liberal, left wing policies) and don't have the money, and the guts, to send their own military force into those dangerous areas, so, who wins out of this: the criminals of course, how many bandits, in cities or sea, go after properties with upfront signs like 'watch out, proud gun owner inside!', none or very very few!
Ted
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koop
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koop
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Mark Kraft
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The pirates weren't going anywhere, and NATO had time on its hands as far as boarding the ship... so why did the Canadians board, rather than the US or Norwegians, so that these pirates could be arrested and tried for their crimes?
This is a deadly serious issue, as there are over 100 hostages of these pirates. Chances are good that if these pirates were arrested, they would eventually have been traded for hostages, so Harper's folks really screwed this up.
It looks like good press, but it's horrible, possibly lethal policy, completely disrespectful for the families who have had their loved ones taken hostage by these criminals!
Balgonie Bob
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Dean
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Steve in Manotick
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Dunny from Manotick
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JCinCalgary
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Its very easy for the far right to ignore the social factors that cause lawlessness. I doubt very much. Addressing it and dealing with it would certainly effect your bottom line.
How can anyone possible people of one of the poorest nations, with an incredibly violent history of "enriching themselves"?
Its not like they have schools to go to, so they can study business or learn a trade. Its not like they have a wallstreet work on, making money on derivatives, only to be bailed out by their government when they fail.
Yes, piracy is wrong, but lets not all pretend there aren't social factors involved here. You'll notice there's not much piracy going on in the rich nations of the world. Except on wall street of course...but stealing from investors retirement funds and ruining lives is just capitalism right?
Bill Mac
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Section 74 of the Criminal Code says that anyone commits piracy when they do any act that, by the law of nations, is piracy. There is no jurisdictional limitation. The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, of which Canada is a signatory, defines piracy and states that any state can take jurisdiction for any act of piracy.
On Question Period today, Craig Oliver interviewed Rear Admiral Bob Davidson about the matter. Mr. Oliver was apparently uninformed about the issue. He did didn't question the admiral's vague responses about why the navy is not arresting pirates. Mr. Oliver incorrectly suggested that Canada did not have legal authority to try them in Canada.
The navy has legal authority to arrest people for piracy. Canada has legal authority to try anyone for any act of piracy.
Are Canadian authorities imagining legal difficulties to avoid the political consequences or cost of prosecuting pirates in Canada? Is the government concerned about the costs involved? Are navy personnel lacking legal training to deal with the matter (for example, to lawfully collect evidence that can be admitted in a Canadian court)? Has Canada signed on to agreements with other governments in the region, as the United States and the United Kingdom have done, to have the pirates tried in those countries? If not, why not? Is the Canadian government concerned about the political consequences of trying Somalian pirates in Canada?
Those are some of the questions Mr. Oliver could have asked Rear Admiral Davidson.
Garry in NS
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BrianD
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FH - Vancouver
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Johnny Depp
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Melanie Fox
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M Fox
Paul
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Iggy would give us a tough military. HA! I think you've forgotten that he's a Liberal.
jean (Quebec)
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Dont forget tat unnamed countries have umpe radioactive waste on their shores too.
ticked off..
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Greg
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KClark Terrace
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In Ottawa
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John from Ontario
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Good work HMCS Winnipeg! Well done!
Am I the only one here that thinks that if we don't stop the piracy then we as consumers will foot the bill for higher shipping costs?"
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Sandman, Am I the only who thinks that if we continue to send out naval forces to Samalia to play catch and release with these pirates were soon gonna pay higher taxes as someone has to pay for these navy ships and other navy ships have to replace them to do their regular duties?
Greg inCambridge
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What's wrong with this picture?
Catch a bank robber robbing a bank..disarm them and then...let them go?
Are you nuts?
The Law just has to be changed.
James Hopkins
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RG
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Captain Kangaroo
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JB in Ontario
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In the long run, everyone will see that the Pirates will ultimately lose out to NATO and an International government body that forbids Piracy on the high seas.
Wade -> We need Iggy for Aggessive Military
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We need Iggy for a more aggressive military.
George - Vancouver
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MattL
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I think that the skiffs should be sunk and with or without the Pirates onboard. Give them a small rubber raft and a pair of oars, drop them 100 miles from shore and let them go.
They don't need any food or water, or directions.
Might make them think about the next time they attempt these feats.
sandman
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Am I the only one here that thinks that if we don't stop the piracy then we as consumers will foot the bill for higher shipping costs?
brian
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brian bitz
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Gord in Calgary
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Prof. Pye Chartt
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"Somalias pirates are a motley crew: Fishermen defending their turf."
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Though your templated left-wing diatribe blaming the rest of the world for the singular criminal activity of a bunch of organized maritime gang thugs makes for interesting reading, unfortunately, it simply represents an old, worn-out tact used in Socioeconomics 101 to explain lawless behavior.
In other words, these "fishermen" (pirates) aren't "defending" ANYTHING. Rather, offensively, they're enriching THEMSELVES in a manner that capitalizes on an opportunity close at hand.
With lethal weapons, they engage in extorting ransom money that fuels their own aspired lifestyle and furthers their "business." (They don't share the wealth with their poor fellow villagers. These gangs don’t operate like Robin Hood.)
Good try, though. Blaming life-threatening criminal activity on a victimized societal group is a common liberal practice.
P.S. Thanks for remembering to toss "Iraq" and the "U.S." into your predictable stew.
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@ Lost Cause:
"...what is going on with all this intense focus on the pirate business...? ...this whole pirate-busting media cascade reeks of propaganda..."
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Instead of exercising a conspiracy theory, how about simply considering that, according to a Somali pirate "spokesperson," their activity has markedly increased due to the lawful threat against them by fed-up countries and NATO? Their "business" is now running into trouble.
As for the Media, who would've thought that ongoing news stories involving PIRATES (and a hostage showdown with Uncle Sam) would garner journalistic excitement?!
KJ Ottawa
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If in international water blow them up and leave them there. I also agree with one comment where the crew should be armed and shoot on site if they are boarded. Dump them overboard and sink there ship. Problem solved.
MAL
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Hang 'em from the yardarm. [sp?]
Mark -Vegreville, AB
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Freeman Blaze
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Chris
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Hmmmm . . .
They interdicted a tanker with weapons,then flee. Sound pretty clear to me. The're brazen because they know we're gutless. One round each would have cleared this all up. And set tne needed example to the rest of the scurvy lot!
Mark
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..then we let them go.
How Canadian.
Jasper
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Art
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I suspect it is the government trying to put the spotlight on the military for their own purposes.
Cal in Ottawa
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Misty Calgary
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Rick in NB
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" back in trhe 1600's the last time we fought piracy" Boy its time you did some googling. Piracy is and has been doing great business since before Christ. Every century every decade.
It's just that the the Gulf of Aden is one of the larger operations in a while and Canada is active in it.
For all you blow them out of the water folks. I know that i have read somewhere that there is a UN directive that bans deadly action. I think that a water canon is all the UN allows.
Please somebody correct me if i'm wrong.
Rick in NB
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" back in trhe 1600's the last time we fought piracy" Boy its time you did some googling. Piracy is and has been doing great business since before Christ. Every century every decade.
It's just that the the Gulf of Aden is one of the larger operations in a while and Canada is active in it.
For all you blow them out of the water folks. I know that i have read somewhere that there is a UN directive that bans deadly action. I think that a water canon is all the UN allows.
Please somebody correct me if i'm wrong.
3 tours and counting
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Casz
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We (as in our suppliers) choose to go through their waters to save money and time on transportation. So we can either provide escorts or change shipping routes if the cost of piracy outweighs the transportation savings. Killing pirates will create replacement pirates not resolve the problem.
Faramir
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Captain Jack Sparrow
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Barring that, take them to the Tower and have them drawn and quartered at Her Majesty's Pleasure. It's still on the books.
paul
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These thugs are caught red-handed and are still released?
If we are not authorized to get the job done, then we shouldn't take on the responsibility of patrolling and protecting these waters.
Dunny from Manotick
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CB in Ontario
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Tony Swain
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Anthony
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One missile would have easily done the job much faster, with better results.
It's laughable.
Dixie from Alberta
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eddytoronto
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The international response to these pirates has been not surprisingly military. But more is needed including action that addresses the deeper issue in Somalia a lack of economic growth and good governance. Yet UN Secretary General appeal to 50 countries for broader assistance received no response.
Somalias strategic position in the Horn of Africa means that any nation that dominates this area will have tremendous control over world trade.
For the West and the U.S control of this region will allow them to counter the dominance of China in the region as well as use the region as a base to conduct operations on terrorists and nations accused of harboring terrorists.
Does it not bother the Afrikan people that out of nowhere a group of men now being called pirates and terrorists by the western media seemed to have all of a sudden emerged on the global political scene? As of today April 19 eighteen nations led by the U.S British and Chinese have sent military ships on the coast of Somalia to deal with the men now called pirates.
Where was the UN Security Council when this economic terrorism against the stateless Somali people was taking place Now the same nations that have been engaged in massive theft and economic degradation on Somalias coasts are calling for blood and military action to ensure that economic terrorism against the Somali people is not interrupted.
The hypocrisy can be compared to the U.S and its allies killing of Iraqis and referring to the murder of these Iraqis as killing the enemy and fighting for freedom and liberty yet when these desperate individuals decide to fight back they are called insurgents terrorists and enemy combatants.
After years of plundering their resources the Somali fishermen finally decided to fight off the real pirates thieves and terrorists and instead of being called voluntary coast guards they are being labeled as criminals pirates and terrorists. Am I to believe that all the fishermen now being called pirates are doing so for nationalistic purposes but does it matter?
Lost Cause
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It's good that these incidents are being sorted out and all, but this whole pirate-busting media cascade reeks of propaganda... maybe the powers that be want our attention fixed on minor problems they can easily resolve rather than the other major ones they can't?
Mike, Toronto
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" G " in Winnipeg
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Perhaps we should fly those sailors home and honor them for their heroic action??!
Goldens
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John Wilson
Bridgetown NS
Nick J Boragina
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We had a lull in piracy for a few hundred years. It's back. This is not a cost, rather we've had it easy and free for too long. Enforcing the law does not come cheap.
Fahad, Montreal
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"G" in Ontario
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Joel Bain
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Sean Calder - Chatham ON
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"Why not arm all vessels passing through the region so they can fight off pirates themselves?"
They can Mike. Well, certain ships can. Former Presidential Candidate Ron Paul has put forward a request to re-instate "Letters of Marque" which allows for the arming of Merchant Ships that pass through "pirate infested waters".
Some countries, however, gave up that privlege back in the 1800's with the Paris Declaration.
JD
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They disarmed the pirates & then let them go !
Does it make any sense to have all these warships wasting all this money running up & down the coast to " let them go "
NATO & UN .They were always a joke abd still are to this day.
Lz in Canada
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Instead, we have 7 pirates who are "on a pleasure cruise" with a grenade launcher. Must be fishing with it. Them "big whales" off their coastline. Yah, thats it. This whole thing is just stupid.
They should sink ANY boat that attempts a highjacking, then rescue whatever or whomever is left. That sends a CLEAR message. Instead, we are sending a message of, "oh, you didn't get the ship this time, try again," as we drop them off on their coast with a "warning."
ex-Canadian
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What is wrong with us? When will the civlized world have had enough?
"G " in Ontario
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Raj
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Mike from Toronto
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