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Date: Wed. Feb. 15 2012 11:03 PM ET

After years of trying, the Conservatives have finally won approval from the House of Commons to scrap Canada's contentious long-gun registry.

Following a lengthy debate Wednesday, MPs voted 159-130 in favour of passing Bill C-19, which will end the registry and allow the government to destroy records pertaining to non-restricted firearms.

Two New Democrats, John Rafferty and Bruce Hyer, broke from their party and voted with the Tories. All other NDP, Liberal and Green MPs opposed the bill.

The bill still needs final approval from the Senate, but since the Conservatives hold a majority in the upper chamber as well, the law is sure to pass. The Liberals said they won't try to delay or filibuster the bill.

The Long Gun Registry Act, first introduced last October, eliminates the requirement for gun owners to register their long guns and other unrestricted or non-prohibited weapons. It also relaxes the rules for the transfer and sale of non-restricted guns.

Data in the Canadian Firearms Registry related to restricted and prohibited firearms such as handguns will be maintained, however.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper has been trying to kill the long-gun registry since he took office in 2006, but it wasn't until the Conservatives secured a majority government in last year's election that his goal became attainable.

While the government has long held that the registry is ineffective and a waste of taxpayers' money, its proponents argued it provides police with an important enforcement tool.

The Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police said cops consult the registry more than 10,000 times a day, on average. If officers are responding to a domestic violence call, or some other kind of trouble, it's imperative that they know if there is a shotgun or rifle in a home, the association said.

The Coalition for Gun Control warned that getting rid of the registry will make it very difficult for police to trace firearms used in crimes.

But Public Safety Minister Vic Toews said the long-gun registry "does nothing to help put an end to gun crimes nor has it saved one Canadian life."

Instead, it criminalizes millions of "honest and law-abiding" hunters and farmers, said Toews, who began his campaign against the registry 15 years ago as the attorney general of Manitoba.

NDP interim leader Nycole Turmel told reporters earlier Wednesday that the "government is out of touch with Canadians."

"This is a sad day for victims of violence," she said.

Interim Liberal Leader Bob Rae accused the Tories of "triumphalism" – they planned to celebrate Wednesday's vote at a reception on Parliament Hill -- and said they continue to distance themselves "from where most Canadians are on this question."

Bill C-19 drew praise from Canada's National Firearms Association, which issued a statement calling the vote "a truly historic beginning for Canada."

"We are beginning to see the government honour its commitments to repeal bad firearms laws," association president Sheldon Clare said in a news release.

Clare went further, calling on the government to scrap the current gun licensing requirements in favour of "a simpler program in which prospective firearm purchasers were simply checked for a record of violence, or behaviour that would preclude legal access to firearms."

Among the provinces, Quebec has been the most vocal opponent of scrapping the long-gun registry.

The province has said it's ready to go to court to block the federal government from destroying registry records once the legislation becomes law.

The leader of the separatist Parti Quebecois, Pauline Marois, began question period in the national assembly by reading off the names of the 14 women gunned down at Montreal's Ecole Polytechnique on Dec. 6, 1989. The long-gun registry was created by Jean Chretien's Liberal government in response to the tragedy.

"After creating an online countdown clock announcing the end of the registry, we hear Conservative MPs will celebrate their victory tonight like it was a hockey match," said Marois. "It's shameful, disgusting and revolting."

In an interview from Ottawa Wednesday, Liberal Senate Leader James Cowan reiterated his party's line that scrapping the registry is "nonsensical."

"The legislation which they're bringing in flies in the face of the facts, and I think it's wrong-headed, it's expensive and more importantly it doesn't achieve what it purports to do," Cowan told CTV News Channel.

"We've been opposed to this from the beginning and we'll continue our opposition."

Cowan expects the bill to makes its way to the committee on legal and constitutional affairs by March.

The federal government said provinces can start their own gun registries if they want, but won't be getting any funding from Ottawa.

--With files from The Canadian Press

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Pat in Afgnanistan
said

Every law biding citizen who owns firearms must have a PAL (Possession and Aquisition License), That data is in the same system and can be accessed by Law Enforcement the same way. This will allow the law enforcement to have information as to a gun owner prior to an entry. I support the repeal of the long gun regristry... money well wasted.


Sid
said

As soon as the LGR is finally dead, I'll be sending my $200 donation to the Conservative party! Well done Mr. Harper!


Chris, Alberta
said

Hilarious really - all this fuss over the invasion of privacy and at the same time as they get rid of it they want to replace it with citizen surveillance without warrant or judicial oversight.

TM
said

Welcome to Stephen Harper's Canada. 2015 can't come soon enough.


Margaret
said

Yeah!!! Maybe now they can introduce legislation that Will reduce crime, instead of making criminals out of law abiding gun owners.


Ray
said

When the police check to see if a prospective criminal they are checking up on for whatever reason has a gun registered doesn't mean squat. The person may or may not have a gun with him or her but if they check the person's record they can find out if that person has an FAC, PAL or whatever it happens to be called now. So there is absolutely no difference, They can still check on the person, and see if they might have a gun with them. But real honest to goodness bad guys don't register guns anyway and likely have illegal weapons, pistols, sawed off shotguns, AK 47's etc, which a check for leagally registered weapons for some infathable reason doesn't show up anyway.


Michel Cardinal
said

Congratulations to the Harper
government!Finally,we have a government in Ottawa that is down to earth,and takes in consideration the tax payers money - The left
wingers Liberals forget one important factor when they implement
all these costly programs to please
a specific area in Canada -and that is there`s only 23 millions taxpayers in CANADA -we are NOT the
USA with approx. 250 millions taxpayers.We don`t have the luxury here to waste $ 2 billions on a registry that brings nothing in return...
The illegal handguns transit from
US-to- Canada via the Ontario & Quebec borders-we need surveillance at these locations.


Bob in Chatham
said

Having spent so much on the registry it is unfortunate that the records are to be destroyed. Provinces should have been able to set up their own registry if that is what the people wanted.Harper could have kept his promise to his western supporters without being so draconian in his approach.


Backwater Zeke
said

By reading these comments I can easily tell that those with the most ridiculous rants against the Cons are also those with no attachment to the Registry. Do yourselves a favour instead of wagging your finger.... learn a bit more about just what happens when you buy a non-restricted rifle or shotgun. You'll quickly see that this was largely a duplication of information and that nobody will be able to legally purchase a long gun without the proper credentials.


KC. BC
said

Just another Lib boondoggle that bites the dust ! Common sense and less government spending sounds good to me.


JIMMY. S quebecor
said

Very happy,Harper is getting my vote in the future!Finally hunters can hunt in peace now!Registry waste of time and money!Congrats to Harper and party and an uprise for all hunters and farmers!Peace!


Dave C
said

Pierresaid.......of the numerous police officers who have been killed by long guns. in recent years. PierreA police officer from Wingham Ontario was killed when he pulled over a man they were looking for. As he exited his car he was shot by a registered rifle.How did the registry prevent this event? If the cops use the registry so much why was the officer not warned that the owner of the car he was looking for owned a firearm?


Paul
said

What is amazing is the following. More people are murder and injured by knives than firearms, well, no talk about that. More kids die on illicit drugs, not much talk about that. More people have been killed by drunk drives and that number surpasses gun deaths and injuries by the thousands, not much talk about that. Guns are not the problem, people are not the problem, common sense is. As for all u anti-firearms folks out there, hey u had your way it failed, deal with it. Stop crying. If this is a step backwards for Canada, wouldn't that mean the Block, or Liberals were voted back into power. ??? they are the true paries that are out of touch with Canadians.


Alexandria
said

This is one of the reasons I voted for the Conservatives.Now I am waiting for them to change the criminal codes and put bad People in jail where they belong.


Ted from Toronto
said

The folks with arguments over this issue generally fall into two main camps. Those with understanding of the reality of the situation and those who have a very emotional perspective and do not want to grasp the reality. My reality is that I lost a friend to suicide with a rifle. A registry made no difference. The method of his demise doesn't matter. He was going to kill himself. His marriage failed and he took his life. Had the mental health support been available and had someone close to him called for an intervention he might have lived. When I think of all the money squandered on this fruitless registry when the money could have gone into community mental health care. Maybe the Polytechnic killer could have been stopped if someone had cared and taken responsibility to call for help that could have actually done something.


benefit for profits - crime
said

The Conservatives more likely consider that crime is part of human nature business. Scrapping the gun registry will benefit the news media circulations, funeral parlors and insurance companies. Individuals must learn from now on, on what certain areas in Canadian cities to avoid or else victims will sacrifice for the profits of those firms. Yes, in the future - profits will become before lives of individuals.


At Last
said

Finally some common sense in this country. The registry only targeted honest law abiding people. Show a single criminal that registered his gun. As for the police using the registry to see if there were guns at a house...tell that to the 4 dead cops families in Mayerthorpe or to the 2 officers shot at in Killam, AB last week. The ONLY way to ensure that the thugs who go around killing people with guns is return deadly force, be nice and shoot only to injure and hand them a rope when they get to their cell or my personal favorite....give a hearty dose of potassium chloride, that guarantees they will never pull another trigger. The potassium chloride solution should be automatic for anyone who kills a cop.


Doug The Canuck
said

I find the Liberals and Dippers to be such hypocritesWhen C 68 was passed they celebrated in the same way the Tories are celebrating now.The long gun registry was an example of a law that totally missed the mark. The stats support that view that it did nothing to improve public safety.It was not intended as a monument to the victims of gun violence.Controlling law abiding citizens does nothing to solve gun crime. The focus needs to be on the criminal, not the implement.A prohibition registry of those not allowed to own firearms might do more good. Then we focus on the person, not the thing.


George
said

Canada has had a decreasing crime rate for 30 years, this will change that and our crime rate will increase to resemble the US. Harper is the only moron stupid enough to take away a useful tool from the police. Our streets will be less safe, I guess it's time to go buy an unregistered gun to protect myself.


Homer J
said

I have read all the remarks below and it seems that all the pro gun registry people are just speaking without any facts.Do they know about the percentage of legal owners that have committied crimes compared to illegal owners....it's less than .01%. If that's worth billions of dollars to enforce then give you head a shake. That money would be better spent on healthcare, schools and the homeless...yes I know that I am dreaming that the money will be used for these purposes but at least I feel better that the money can be used for the better than being wasted...and no, I am not a gun owner.....just sayin


Bob in Nfld
said

I'm glad it's been scrapped. As a multiple gun owner, this law did not save anyone form any harm at all. Those who think it did are obviously from the anti-gun crowd. Look, if a criminal really wanted to shoot someone, they would get a gun by any means possible and I'm pretty darn sure they wouldn't do it through legal means. Now all this being said, I personally have no problem if the police and government took away the right to own a firearm to any person who is convicted of a serious crime or has been diagnosed with schizophrenia or any other major psychiatric disorder that would impair their judgement.


lwinslow
said

"The Government is out of touch with Canadians" The NDP has to wake up and realize that the NDP and Left-wing Liberals are out of touch with Canadians! But that will not happen with these persons who dwell in "La La Land!"


Toadman
said

It is in fact a great day for gun owners, whom for the overwelming majority, are law abiding citizens. It is a greater day for the Conservative Party of Canada who have remained true to their commitment on the gun registry issue. Finally we have a government who is Bold enough to listen to the people instead of lobbyists. Law abiding doctors in this country cause accidental deaths as do Law abiding gun owners. Both licences demand the utmost respect. Both licences have life and death consequences. The difference is that doctors are rarely grouped into the same catagory as criminals who commit premeditated violent firearm related crimes often while using perscription drugs perscribed by a doctor. Way to go Steven H arper, my 14 year old son says he will vote for you when he is old enough to do so!


Greg Orbman
said

The Conservatives claim the long gun registry infringes on freedom.The Conservatives claim mandatory long form census is invasion of privacy.However, the Conservatives want to access internet information without a warrant. The text of Bill C30 does not mention internet predators. Bill C30 enables Police Officers, Commissioners of Competition, and CSIS agents to access internet information for any purpose within their duty or function. The purpose does not need to be a Criminal Investigation, and the text of Bill C30 does not mention internet predators. (What does a Commissioner of Competition have to do with investigating internet predators?)


Brian
said

good and get every police chief and csis head to swear out an oath that they have destroyed the registry records they downloaded before they are scrapped.


Mike from Holberg
said

Like the bill or not, isn't it ironic how Harper wanted to get rid of the gun registry for years, but actually voted FOR the gun registry in the first place?


Nels
said

For all those who beleive CSI is real give your head a shake. When an officer approaches a dwelling on a call it should be assumed that there may be a weapon inside, as should they assume the same whne pullling a vehicle over. That presumption is what keeps them safe and alive. The gun registry information is not as easily accessed in real life as it is in Hollywood. Furthermore, there are more people killed by motor vehicles then by registered firearms. Let's spend the billion on drinking and driving penalties instead of 3-4 time offenders driving home from their court hearings, or the 6-7 hour emergency room waits. How about a little common sense on what the benefit really was with the registry, versus your CSI fantasy. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Guns, knifes, cars, 2x4's, how about better educating our young ones on dignity and respect for others, respect for life and respect for laws and those that enforce them.


Arby
said

This is a great day for law abiding gun owners in Canada.Common sense prevails.


cfs_Alberta
said

Finally we are seeing the policies of the Reform Party - whoops, I mean the Conservative Party come into action. For those who don't like this one, just wait for what else is coming down the pipe. Thanks to all easterners who voted for a western based government. About time!


Laura
said

I don't like the Conservatives at all, but I have no problem with the scrapping of the long gun registry. This is the ONLY thing they've done that has made sense to me.


JP
said

Wonder what the tories will do when we have another columbine or virginia tech, except this time in Canada. So many lives are going to be lost thanks to this mistake.


Newsblaster
said

Why is it that whenever there's a television news report on gun laws in this country it includes an interview of some radical anti-gun lobbyist, but rarely includes interviews from the so-called "gun lobby". Is the left-wing media in Canada afraid of the truth?


Citizen Bob
said

Destroying the registry data is a very good thing. That database has no doubt been hacked into many times by criminals (with the sloppy way the Liberals ran gov't agencies it was probably hacked into the instant it was set up).
This data, in criminal hands, allows them to confidently target homes and businesses where no guns are present (pick on the weak and defenseless). Now, the bad guys won't be able to find out for sure where the guns are and will untimately be less bold and brazen.


Niagara George
said

The Cons needed to can the Long Gun Registry because their surveys told them, the majority of their supporters were against the registry... End of story. It has nothing to do with cost or usefulness. These people make decisions based on surveys and surveys only. Everything else is spin to turn their findings into policy.My earlier submission (which was not posted) said the registry presently costs the government $2 million per year. My new research through the Globe and Mail suggests the RCMP say the savings will be between $1.5 and $4.1 million. That's small potatoes compared to a $1.2 billion weekend for King Steve and his friends.Thinking about costs... I wonder what the cost will be for Toews new invasion of privacy legislation. Some of you are happy you will no longer feel like criminals because you never registered your gun. Of course, you were criminals, but that's a different story.Soon, we will all have the joy of feeling like criminals, whenever we turn on our computers. I'd like to know how much that is going to cost and who will pay for it. If it cost $500 million for the computers to register guns, the cost for the computers and the software needed to monitor every internet user will be astronomical. Steve sure won't pay for it. The service providers aren't making that kind of profit, so that only leaves you and me. You can expect internet costs to skyrocket. All so that the government can monitor everything you do online. The police can already monitor the 'bad guys' whenever they want. Now they can check on all of us. Another sad day for Canada.


Gerry
said

"The leader of the separatist Parti Quebecois began question period in the national assembly by reading off the names of the 14 women gunned down at Montreal's Ecole Polytechnique on Dec. 6, 1989."It amazes me how low the Parti Quebecois will stoop to further their agenda.I applaud the Conservatives for doing what they said they would when elected with a majority. The registry was a stupid, costly Liberal knee jerk reaction to a senseless tragedy, that accomplished absolutely nothing.


Henry
said

Wow a political party that keeps it's election promises!Vive La Canada Libre!


devils advocate
said

Now that it is done I can only hope that the Conservative's assertions that the registry "never saved a single life..." are true. If they aren't we will sadly see the body count rise. I didn't personally think that the convenience of long gun owners was worth this risk, but people voted, the government was elected and everyone knew this was one of their goals. Now we live with the consequences and hope they are as minor as we have been told to believe.


Farmer Joe
said

Thank goodness this is finally over. A strong concern by some has been this: 1) The original gun registry was legislated by the Liberals who justified their actions by citing a tragic event - a mad gunman shooting some college students in Quebec. The Libs then said it would cost less than $2 million and instead ended up costing taxpayers around 1000 times that much. 2)If another similar tragic event like Polytechnique were to happen again, and the Libs or NDP were in power, it would only be a small step for them to deem themselves justified to outlaw guns completely - and many are quite concerned they would. ___ With the registry now gone it would be a larger and more difficult step for them to do that. That is good. ___ Socialists want the government to have absolute control over the people and allowing individual people to own guns means the population is more independent, which impedes the socialist's ultimate goal.


boyd
said

you have to respect that the government is sticking to the promise, the registry does nothing to assist in fighting crime in any way and has done nothing that you can specifically point to to say as a result of registered firearms a life is spared on a criminal thwarted in your community.


Larry i Ontario
said

Another reason not to give Harper another majority. He just plows his own adgenda through and does not care what anyone thinks. Scraping this is a disastor. ask the police chiefs in Canada who wanted it to stay. Can 't wait for next election to turf the conservatives out of power!


Ian
said

It's good to hear they scrapped it. It was completely useless because the criminals arent exactly going to be registering their guns. So this just relieves a burdon off the shoulders of the honest hunters and farmers who arent planning to misuse their guns.


Ron in Ottawa
said

WHO is the poster down below who thinks Canadians can own AK47's and sawed-off shotguns? Those were illegal before the registry, during the registry, and are still ILLEGAL after the registry. They are outright prohibited guns and the Criminal Code ensures people who acquire those items do hard time in jail (oh wait, a Liberal judge will have them out in 15 seconds or so...) Another example of critics of this new Act of parliament having a complete and fundamental lack of knowledge about the legislation. This sort of ignorance gave us this boondoggle in the first place!


Bob in Courtenay
said

Canada is now at the mercy of the gun nuts.


Kim Ontario
said

What a welcome decision..finally! This was nothing more than a money grab and a knee jerk reaction to a sad situation that the registry would not have prevented anyways. With 3 front-line police officers in our family, I can tell you that NONE of them have ever been foolish enough to trust their lives to a database that was ill conceived and not up to date. Like many other commenters before me have stated, guns don't kill people, people kill people. The registry has done nothing to change that, especially due to the fact that criminals don't seem to favor registering any firearms they intend to commit a crime with...imagine that!


B in Ottawa
said

I know it's hard for Liberals to watch a government that actually fulfills its promises, as they don't have much experience in fulfilling election promises. The Conservatives have filled or are filling every single one. Ending the gun registry? Check. Freedom for Grain Farmers? Check. Keeping Canada's economy growing and creating jobs? Check. Real time for real crimes? Check. The list goes on and on. After 7 years of minority governments, spinning our wheels and stuck in neutral, Canada is finally moving forward once again.


Victor in Vaughan
said

Long Gun Registry should be renamed the Long Time Promissory. The Conservatives are sad they finally have to shelve this wedge issue, because they could push it like a easy button and make potential voters angry. Now get back to work


MARG MM
said

Pierre......So then how did the registry work, when it DIDN'T save the lives of those that you mentioned?? Looks like the registry made absolutly NO difference, as those women and the policemen that you mentioned are unfortunatly dead, even though the registry was in place when those senseless murders happened.


Lorne-MTL
said

On the one hand, scrapping the LGR that police services use everyday to protect officers and the public, and investigate crimes, while at the same time trying to tighten criminal justice and make it possible for police to get personal information without a warrant is so contradictory that you can only come to the conclusion that this government is about ideology and special interest groups, rather than reasoned, fact-based leadership. These Reformers will pay for this come next election.


curiousGeo
said

It's about freakin' time. Now they can go about and waste my money on other useless thing like F-35 fighters.


Jake
said

I hope the government will destroy the data on the gun registry and not handing over it to any province, especially not to the provinces having high organized criminals.The long gun registry is a haven for criminals. With the registry, criminals don't need to smuggle guns into the country anymore. All they have to do is to hack into the government gun registry data, find out the owners of long guns. Then break in the owners' house and get the gun(s), commit crimes with the guns, leave the guns for the police to find. Bingo, the innocent owners take the fall.Don't forget, government computer data are not always secured.


goldens
said

Fantastic! Now let us do something sensible and legalize drugs and register junkies and drug users instead.


TubeDeviant
said

I'm glad to finally see this waste of money on long gun registration put to an end. The registry does nothing to prevent violence or murder because the police access that information AFTER they are called, AFTER the violent crime has taken place. How does that information prevent a violent person from shooting someone? It seems to me that people in favor of the registry can't seem to think one or two steps ahead because it should be clear that NO law or registry can stop a person from using a gun to kill someone. There was a multiple homicide in Alberta (if I remember correctly) not too long ago where the killer used guns that were registered. That is a very significant piece of evidence proving that the gun registry doesn't serve its intended purpose, which is to provide law enforcement with information to HOPEFULLY prevent murders..I hope ALL gunowners in Canada will show solidarity by buying a long gun to celebrate the end of the red tape and waste of money that is the long gun registry!


Doug ^^^ BC
said

@Really? I think you are misinformed.The long gun registry did not help police find stolen guns. They found the guns,and used the registry to find the owners.And any reasonable person with a firearm would have the same outcome if they recorded the serial #'s of their firearms properly recorded. Maybe this is an "east_west" thing,as someone said.But even at that,the east of Canada dictating to the west has got to stop. If gun crime is a problem in Toronto,use the laws on the books, and deal with it.Don't get all over duck hunters when you have other laws that you can use to deal with real criminals. Oddly,the same people who want to be tough on duck hunters,are soft on criminals.You go out and catch them,then you fight like heck to set them free again.Go figure.


Bob in Calgary
said

Now if we could just scrap Harper


Amber
said

I'm not a fan of this...a few years ago several farms were broken into in my home town in Manitoba and the people stole a number of things including fire arms; a vehicle was pulled over a few months later and the dumb thieves had kept the long-guns that they stole. The guns were registered and the police were then able to trace that the people who were driving the vehicle fit the description of the suspects in the thefts and were able to charge them with not only inappropriate storage of a fire arm but also the thefts as well...the gun registry is something we need! Right there is proof of that in one instance!


randy
said

Thats just normal just another day to waste tax payers money.


firstMickey
said

Why was the long gun registry put into effect in the first place? Did somebody think it would be a fun law or was there a reason for the law? If it did some good, why was it abolished? Has there been any thinking throughout this? What part did the gun lobby play in all this? Will we be safer or less safe?


Lunartic
said

Under Chretien and Martin, the government declare war on the hunters, the farmers and decent law abiding citizens, the very heart and soul of the people of this country. Thank goodness that Harper is righting a wrong.


steve
said

The long gun registry is a do something, anything approach to reducing gun crime. Sure it makes advocates of gun control feel all warm and fuzzy but the reality is criminals don't register thier guns. It forces police to monitor law abbiding citizens who have no intention of hurting anyone while criminals still commit crimes and kill pepole with illegal guns. the $2 billion we spent on the registry would have been better spent on putting more police on the streets and customs officers at our borders this would have actually reduced crime and stemmed the flow of ilegal guns. Good ridance!!!


harry
said

i see the torybloggers are out in force this evening . Where have they been all day not defending Vic towes. They bring up the cost and liberal policies from years ago and wonder where the countless lives have been saved. Well how about everytime a police officer reponded to a situation where they knew there was firearm it raised there awareness and they handeled the situation different. This saved the lives of numerous officers and the people that they were dealing with.As for treating gun owners like criminals. I suppose now you will want Harper to do away with drivers licenses and vehicle registration.


Mark in Newmarket
said

The gun registry was nothing more than a tool for the Liberal government to find out, which law abiding citizens had rifles, guns etc., this way they would know where to go to when it came time for the government to decide that they wanted to confiscate all the weapons owned by law abiding citizens. What they really should have been doing was going after the illegal weapons that are being smuggled into this country via the drug trade that are used by the gangs who go around shoot up neighourhoods and killing each other. Now, that is where they should have spent the money, to stop the actual criminals than the law abiding citizens, but then again the Liberals do not like to punish the criminal, only the victims.


dualstrats
said

another victory for law abiding citizens...go steve go


Doug
said

Cops who think they shouldn't gp into any situation thinking there could be fire rms involved even when not listed on the registry program are fools. its not hard to steal or get guns illeagaly and how do you check for those? If somebody registered a gun and shot somebody with it did it matter that it was Registered? Did being registered save the life of the person who was shot by said registered gun?


Bob from NB
said

In all reality on the east coast I have came apon many times where I have been solicitated to buy a sidearm which was brought here from the US illegally. Usual price $100 - $200 with Ammunition. My hunting rifles all cost me $400 - $1500, and ammunition is $20 a box. I have always done my firearms legally etc.... guess what I am trying to say is.... is it really working anyways?


joe
said

good riddance to that money pit that allan rock created


shawbrooke
said

Reading out the names from Polythechnique? Does the person think that the public is weak in the head? The gun(s) at the Polytechnique were from the army and no registry would have saved anyone.Let's hope this ends and we hear no more. As curious as I am as to where all that money went, I'm prepared to let it go if we can move on the something that at least makes sense.


Canadian Bob
said

So when will we see a reformed Senate? Transparency in government? Accountability? Oh... Never mind... we know...


Compromise
said

It's to bad they could not have compromised slightly. Clearly Quebec and it's residents want to have the registry. Why not allow each province to make it's own decision? Alberta and Quebec are different provinces. I don't think allowing them to have their own policies in regards to this would be a bad thing. Now we will have many millions wasted in court cases having this fought by Quebec, who wants to keep a registry, and their information they have already paid to collect.


Roy
said

Just think of the lives that really could have been saved had all that wasted registry money been put into health care...or anything else for that matter!!


Margie
said

The massacre of 14 young women at Montreal's Ecole Polytechnique on Dec. 6, 1989 was done by a madman. It was a very sad and brutal act done by a crazed person who had no thought, nor consideration, for the many people affected by his senseless action on that day. Having said that I firmly believe that the events of Dec 6/89 have no place in the discussion/debate around the long gun registry. Anyone wishing to acquire a firearm in Canada must still be in possession of a Firearms Acquisition Certificate. In order to hold the FAC one must take a course, pass the exam as well as have a clear criminal background. Sadly there is no legislation to prevent the actions of a psychopath/madman but farmers, gun collectors, sport target shooters and hunters should not be penalized due to the actions of a madman. The long gun registry must be abolished. Let's use our resources in this country to fight real crime, support victims of crime, keep criminals behind bars but not waste millions of dollars on a gun registry which has no effective bearing on the reduction of crime.


BG in BC
said

FACT ! You STILL have to have a license in order to by a long gun ! & show this license when you buy ammo. This info IS available to the police as well. So Why waste millions a year duplicating this information? If you have a gun license then you probably have a gun in hour home...right? Unless of course your a criminal with an illegal gun...right ?


BG in BC
said

The long gun registry was an absolute knee jerk reaction by the then Liberal Gov't to a tagic event. It did not & has never done what is was supposed to do. It was done to make the appearance that the then gov't was doing somthing, but in abslolute fact has done nothing. If you belive anything different you are gullable spoon fed fools who only pay attention to optics & not facts.


Leo
said

Democracy In Action:

Conservative election promise to scrap registry

Conservatives win with majority and are following through on scrapping registry

What are we even debating? Don't like it, run for Prime Minister, win election with majority, bring back the registry....

Until then... let's sing together na na na nah, na na na nah, ehhhhhhhhh , goodbye.


Victoria Bob
said

No time to read the posts but I am contually amazed that common sense does not end the debate. The Registry was/is a total waste of taxpayer money and, as far as I know, has NEVER saved a life nor prevented one from being taken by a long-gun. The police chiefs are ingenuous in their stance because they just want it there "just in case". I believe that most police "in the field" have spoken against the Registry's effectiveness unless intimidated by their superior officers. The parliamentarian who read out the names of those poor victims at Polythechnique is showboating and just trying to inflame the debate. The event would not have been prevented if the Registry had been in place.


Norman
said

The gun registry has absolutely had no effect on your daily lives one bit, Cons. And you know it. I'm a long gun owner and that was never an issue. "Treated like a criminal" is absolute hogwash. Cops liked it because they could check it before the went into a house to see if there was guns. To say that the gun registry didn't save lives is more Con bullsh**. Of course it did. And I'm hardly sorry there are no bodies to prove I'm right.


Larry in MB
said

Please tell me 1. how much has this cost the taxpayer to date? 2. where did the money go to? 3. Prove to me how many lives were saved because it was being inforced and 4. Why did the Liberals not recognize it as a mistake and abolish it years ago?


Peter
said

Its about time the Long Gun Registry gets scrapped. A colossal waste of time, taxpayer dollars and human resources, the long gun registry has served no beneficial purpose other than to provide snivel servant jobs to a bloated and inefficient bureaucracy in an Alan Rock production of 'How To Kid Ourselves About Public Safety'. It is sad, truly sad to listen to the near religious zeal of the irrational fools who support the maintenance of the status quo and who oppose C-19. This is a great day for the decent and law abiding citizens of Canada.


Elizabeth, Ontario
said

The Long Gun Registry has not prevented one single crime. It has placed law abiding gun owners, hunters, farmers, sport target shooters in a place where they can easily become criminals just by missing the renewal dates. Police, like Toronto's Chief Blair, claim the registry is a valuable tool for police however any police officer, who would rely on the flawed long gun registry for their safety, should hang up their gun and badge and go find another job. The debate over the long gun registry has gone on long enough -- it's far overtime that it be abolished and the money saved be put toward real crime prevention initiatives.


BP from Winnipeg
said

I was wondering. Is it true that people up north use long guns to hunt as a means to survice? Again, I was just wondering.


Diane
said

I am deeply opposed to the scrapping of the long-gun registry. How the Conservative MPs will be able to live with this decision is beyond me.


Meaghan H
said

It'll be a sad day when something bad enough happens to make the rest of the country realize how important this registry really is...


Guelph Observer
said

What a sad situation. Innocent victims of domestic abuse thru the use of long guns will bear the brunt of the impact of this stupid legislation.This Conservative Reform Alliance Party (CRAP) continues to live up to its name.


Angloman
said

Know why the government is scrapping the registry?

Because it's about to impose an even more draconian policy that will track absolutely everything you do online -- even when you don't know you're going online.

Carry a cell phone and happen to work in a building near where a group of protesters march? You will instantly be on a police watch list and police *will* be snooping through everything, absolutely everything you do. Including using the black box in your car to track your every movement.

The Conservative party is not going to treat gun owners like criminals. They're introducing laws to treat every man, woman and child in Canada like a criminal.


kman
said

@ Oxymoron ... I mean Intelligent liberal. You are aware there are still rules in place for how many animals you can harvest right? you cant just go out and junt what you want. In fact the penalties for overing your limit or outright poaching can be far more severe than murder. Also, keep in mind, legal owners of firearms have many rules that they must comply with, are open to unannounced inspections and in the cas of a restricted firearm, requre a seperate license just to transport their firearm to the range (which you have to belong to in order to get a restricted class license)


Ross
said

First we need strong gun laws but Harper is coons are not smart enough to do it and I hope all you who want these gun registry demolish never have a love one or someone you care about shoot you will be crying like babies that it should never been demolished.


Will
said

joe mc, don't be an idiot. None of your complaints hold water.


JBurey
said

I am 100% in favour of the long-gun registry. It has prevented countless crimes. Oh wait, sorry, I was just reading off the LPC web site. Nevermind.


Pierre
said

Now they will have a party tonight to celebrate this. They will be dancing on the graves of the victims of the Montreal Polytechnic Institute and of the numerous police officers who have been killed by long guns. in recent years. Pierre


Finally!
said

Wish they would now re-classify pistols as non-restricted. Handguns are far less powerful and have a vastly shorter range than so many of the available non-restricted firearms.


peter in mb
said

When are the liberals going to admit that bill C-68 was a mistake and targeted the wrong people? I guess that will happen when they pay back the 250 million they stole from tax payers in the sponsorship scandal that went into their parties funds and war chest that they spent in 3 elations. And when are they going to apologies for doing it. I guess never, so they will never get my vote again. I am a former liberal and now newly conservative or Neo-con as the liberals like to call me.


don.h
said

the registry was no more than 2 billion spent by the liberals to buy votes in quebec, and line the pockets of their political friends. canada had some of the toughest gun laws in the world before the long gun registry ever created. time to slam the lid on the money pit.


Ryan in AB
said

For all you posters against the gun registry because it criminalizes average citizens I hope that you are the first ones in lone decrying Toews assault on privacy and civil liberties with the new electronic surveilence laws. Or do you only buy what the Conservatives are selling?


Rich
said

Can you hear all of the "real criminal" who bothered to register their guns breath a sign of releif knowing their guns can't be tracked? What's with all of the silence, it appears that no criminal registered their guns, go figure.


J.C.
said

@JP - Self responsibility would be to NOT carry a weapon on you at all times!!! This is not the USA. In this country you can only use reasonable force to protect yourself, and in most instances that would not be a gun!!! Just because the registry is going to go does not mean that the laws on guns have changed, or will, thank heavens.


Bill C. Ontario
said

NOW, the government has to look at what is in the restricted and prohibited category. Many of those firearm are there for no reason other than some Liberal bureaucrat thought it looked scary. Just like the recent .22 cal rifles that were re-classified... The AR-15 is NOT an military assault rifle, it probably the most popular sporting rifle in the U.S.A. but Canada has it as 'Restricted' only because it's black and looks different than your grandfathers old 303 Enfield (Which WAS a military firearm).. Lets bring back some common sense now that the Liberals are finally out of the picture


Andy-Toronto
said

@Joe MC, you’re a joke. “AK 47s, .50 Cals, submachine guns, 12 gauge sawed-off shotguns, etc, etc, etc” are all illegal guns and would never be on the registry. Any policy force that goes into a situation, or receives a threat and does not take every precaution to protect themselves or the person being threaten may give their heads a serious shake. A gun is not the only thing that can be used to take a life, if that is all the police are looking at they are badly mistaken. Julian Fantino was the commissioner of the OPP, he does not support it. I have read a lot of ill advised comments on this threat today, but Joe MC you my friend take the cake.


Bob in YYC
said

@Ted from Toronto - I think you make the most valid point here. Finally some perspective using facts.


noodle
said

CONSERVATIVELY speaking, I would say at least 95% percent of the public speaking here, are in favor of this unlike NDP Nycole Turmel who is out of touch.Reading the comments really shows how informed people really are, and common sense will prevail.Thanks to pm Harper for following thru.


Ted from Toronto
said

Where did all the money go? Is there an accounting report of just what firms got how much $ for this database debacle?


RJ in Halifax
said

For all those suggesting police officers will now be subject to greater risk when responding to calls such as domestic violence or home invasions, do you really think that the perpetrators of these crimes are using legally registered firearms? Police should ALWAYS assume the worst when responding to a call. It's easier to relax when you confirm there are no weapoons, than to hope the person is a lousy shot just because you checked the gun registry and it came up blank.


Tom91
said

I own guns and this registry doesnt really bother me. What does bother me is the idiots that support it because they think it saves lives or makes people safer. If anything, it makes nobody safer and me less safe because some trigger happy cop might shoot me while responding to a noise complaint because his readout said I own a gun but was holding a broom when they walked in. Let's tackle illegal handguns and gang violence instead, the things that actually cause the MAJORITY of gun deaths in Canada (Which, by the way, is already one of the lowest figues for any coutry on earth). Also, guns kill people the same way that forks make people fat and steering wheels cause car accidents. Also, I never heard of a gun killing someone, usually its the bullets that do that.


peter in mb
said

The liberals once said people have to register their cars so therefore they should have to register their guns. Tell me something does the fact that your car is registered stop a car thief from stealing it and driving it at high speeds and killing people? The gun registry is the same but if your car is stolen and someone is killed the cars owner dose not face criminal charges as an accomplice to the crime for supplying the means (the Car) and have your drivers license revoked. If one of my guns gets stolen in a break and enter and is used in a crime, I can have my firearms license revoked and the police kick down my door and confiscate all my other guns and I could go to jail. The only thing the registry is good for is for criminals to know who has guns after they hack into the registry. And it has been Hacked into in the past and present.


James
said

"It's also about making sure that we don't unnecessarily penalize millions of honest and law-abiding Canadians with rules that have little effect on crime prevention or crime reduction." Where was she when the Cons decided to revoke Canada's right to online privacy? I'm a little surprised Con heads haven't started exploding due to the cognitive dissonance, but I guess that would require a grade school understanding of logic that these people don't seem to possess.


Mark
said

Been waiting 12 years for this to happen! This was predicted from 1995 when the Liberal's introduced the original bill. Best part was watching the Liberals also go bankrupt and collapse as a Party!


Dean Calgary
said

We need a better shooting range, or three.


AJ
said

This registry was never more than an official stick to poke into the sides of gunowners by those that hate them...proponents of left wing parties. They just think that their hate is right...because it comes from their prespective. This same political wing within police departments claim it's uses it thousands of times a day (fudged numbers and exagerated importance-they check at every vehicle stop same as with lic plate). Registry does nothing! Stop the gunbashing and left wing hate!


Paul in Simcoe
said

The Gun Registry is not an effective tool (long guns) but I will say I believe it is fantastic on restricted firearms. Those like me who are in the system see how the RCMP uses checks and balances to do all that is possible to assure that these items are in the hands of proper users (target shooting). I'm just upset that I haven't heard from one Politician who is opposed to this registry ... believe me..i've tried... tell me that they are in the system and/or are familiar with it. This is just a Political Hot Point for them.


M
said

this should never have been about registering long guns. It should have been about registering, monitoring and tracking PEOPLE, the criminals pulling the triggers of ALL guns.

Also, by the comments this appears to be yet another East vs. West thing.


CMQ
said

When violence reigns in any society, banning guns does not stop deaths. Look at some of the remotest areas of the world and you will find that the people who desire to kill, if need be, will pick up anything even a rock to kill. This legislation I believe would have potentailly remained if it had 1. done what the liberals said it would do and 2. had cost what the liberals said it was going to cost. Nether ended up being true and therefore the reason it is about to go by the wayside.


Ted from Toronto
said

You still need a license to buy a long gun. Pistols are still restricted. Automatic weapons are still prohibited. No registry doesn't mean no gun laws. The registry never stopped anyone from legally buying a rifle. The registry never included a background check. The registry has never been tied to anyone's mental health records. The registry was never tied to your drivers license. The registry never prevented anyone from using a pistol in a crime. Owning a rifle does not make you a criminal. Using one in a crime does. Wouldn't it be nice if those people who do use a gun in a crime go to jail instead of out on bail.


Eric
said

Finally a Government that has stuck to its promise and used common sense. The gun registry has been the biggest waste of money (Billions of $) with absolutely no benefit. Just think where those Billions could have been wisely spent...MORE Police on the streets..More Hospitals..etc. I am in the sporting industry and speak to Police officers and ERT (Emergency Response Teams) every day and they all have stated that the registry has not been of any assistance to them in the fight against crime..As usual the Law abiding is always penalized ..but the crooks have free range!! Do the Liberals and NDP really think that a criminal is going to go and purchase a firearm and REGISTER it with their name and address BEFORE committing a crime !? Come on LIB's & NDP;s even you cannot be that naive.....can you?!


JP
said

It should be illegal to NOT own a gun...further, it should be mandatory that every citizen CARRY a gun on them at all times when in public. How can you possibly trust a person when they are mentally and emotionally incapable of handling a simple defensive weapon in the interest of their own safety from aggressive crime and for the aid of others. A person who is intellectually unable to carry a weapon such as a hand gun is a danger not only to them self, shucking the self-responsibility of his or her own person, but is also a liability to the rest of the population which will need to fill in the responsibility lacking in said person....it endangers those around you if you are mentally incapable of self-responsibility.


Joe Mc
said

Forgot to add, since most of you stated this was a waste of money, here’s a scoop from someone that was involved outside the project’s walls. The cost was not as the CONs had stated years ago, if you really look at what the costs were, you will find he was off by about $1B. Next, the problem came from the provinces that wanted their own data center equipment instead of reporting data back to a master Dbase, within RCMP control, available to all police forces. The provinces stalled and stalled during the design phase to study and gain acceptance of the intent, pushing out deliverables and costing more. The complexity of the infrastructure was only expanded by the provinces who tried to control the project. And I could go on. Here’s what I think the issue is. WHO NEEDS AN AK47, .50CAL, LONG BARREL SUBMACHINE GUNS, ASSAULT RIFLES, etc, Someone trying to impress their buddy? Some that goes hunting with the .50Cal, what are you going to kill with that? If you ban the registry, then ban the ownership of the non-traditional weapons (303s, 30-30s, 308, 12 Gauge (single or double shot) are traditional), no issue and must be registered. But, 357 Mag, submachine gun, and any other type of offensive weapon should be banned. Actually, now you can use the new “no warrant” computer sniffer to track down pictures or emails about guns? A registry can also help tell sellers of guns and ammo, don't sell to this person. . . .


David ON
said

Let's finally put this money to a place that makes sence. Making jobs for people with government hand outs has got to stop.


Philip
said

The Liberals hate gun owners because they remind them of the NRA in the US and they have been trying to attack those types of people who tend to vote Conservative, with that and other legislation as well. The Conservatives have not done enough to roll back the bad laws and policies of the Liberals and have accepted most of them since they were elected. They should have gone much more deeply and made more significant reforms to the countless marxist policies introduced over many years by the Liberals, such as giving millions of dollars of foreign aid to Cuba, a radical dictatorship that has been a good friend of the Liberals since Trudeau. Cuba is the most extreme of all of the marxist countries, and even Khruschev complained about the radicalism of Castro, but despite that the Liberals have been active in sending financial help to keep him in power, whether through foreign aid or opening up and expanding Canadian tourism there, which has kept the Castros in power for an extra 20 years. Why did they put sanctions against South Africa for a lack of democracy but help to keep a dictatorship in Cuba in power which still does not have democracy, or other countries that they like as well that have marxist dictatorships ? It is because there are a lot of persons who sympathize with marxism in their party and they have a lot of influence - enough to make major foreign policy decisions. The NDP are even more in that direction. Paul Martin as someone with a business background was less left wing than Chretien, but he did not change most of their policies, nor has Prime Minister Harper, though the direction has changed a bit for new policies since he was elected.


Curt - Alberta
said

Of course the liberal's support the registry. They're the ones that brought it in in the 90's.It is not a tool used by police. My brother, a police officer for 15 years has used it once. Ask any policeman on the street and they'll agree it does nothing to fight, or prevent crime. They'll also agree it has little or no value to them as a tool. Sure the police chief's association say it is a valuable tool, but they're all politicians, not police in the street, and most of them are liberals.I voted for Harper because I want this waste of money gotten rid of. If he doesn't do it, I won't vote for him again. Mind you, being a westerner, I won't vote liberal either because I'm sick of them shafting me up the backside without so much as a kiss or a lubricant.


Brad
said

Can you just imagine how many traffic lights could have been installed at high risk intersections across Canada for a billion (plus) dollars? ----that's the money we have wasted on the gun registry.We would have had actual proof that the money saved lives!!---unlike the long-gun registry.


Linda Innisfail Alberta
said

At last we can get back to registering restricted weapons instead of supporting a pyramid scheme of monies disappearing into somebodies pockets. We should all realize that the bad guys never registered anything. The only thing the long gun regristry did was molify the urbanites.


AC in NB
said

i would bet that anybody that THINKS they believe in the gun registry have never read or have any idea of what it actually consists of. It's for long guns, not hand guns. Hand guns have always and will always have to be registered. When C-61 was passed, it was a great way to find out how many guns are in Canada.( maybe the Liberals wanted to know what they were up against if there was to be any civil unrest. As well with this bill, the RCMP could search your home; without a warrant, just because you have registered guns, even if you didn't keep them at your house. My civil rights just went out the door. Good riddence to this bill


clm
said

Way to go Harper & crew !!
the registry is a pain in the ass & waste of money.... did it stop the criminals in any way .... NO !!
Thank you for following through on an election promise. Its nice to see a gov't actually do that for a change instead of back-pedaling.


Joe Mc
said

The sad thing about this HARPO law, is that the next time any police officer has to attend a “domestic disturbance” they will not be able to see if the house hold has weapons. Then next time a guy or girl says, “I’m going to kill you”, the police will never know if there’s a weapon in the person’s possession that could be used. The next time someone gets arrested for weapons offences, the police will have to drive a truck to that person’s house to collect all the AK 47s, .50 Cals, submachine guns, 12 gauge sawed-off shotguns, etc, etc, etc. You will never know what type of weapons they will have. And finally to all those that say the police would not benefit from this, ask the police, their bosses, and their associations, who all wanted the registry. Oh, yes forgot, if you’re the lone police chief that agreed with HARPO, you too can be a Senator in HARPOs Govt.


raj
said

Finally! thank goodness .Thank you PM for following through with this.


John Lethbridge
said

This was one of the non-negotionable issues that the west sent Harper to Ottawa to take care of. The other pertains the CWB. Out of touch? sorry, This is Harper finally making good on a very specific election promise.


diver
said

Finally a Government that does what we people asked for..And this is a problem?? The problem is people sore their party did not win!!


Robert777
said

Excellent News for a change. What a waste of money. The registry was only intended for one thing and that thing was the eventually confiscation of all privately held guns. Give the Tories credit on this issue. Glad the registry is gone!


Brave officers
said

The gun registry has done absolutely nothing to save the lives of our brave police officers! In he past few years many of them have died in situations that I really don’t think would have mattered if the gun registry existed or not. If the registry worked so well why have we lost so many of our brave officers? I feel sad that this keeps on happening to them.


Mark - Alberta
said

Would any of you registry supporters show me an single example of where the registry prevented or stopped a crime from happening? Just one single solitary example. Your silence tells it all.


RJ in Halifax
said

While I am not going to critique individual comments on either side of the fence, I do want to ak all readers one question. How has the decades old ban on hand guns worked in reducing violent crime in Canada? More violent crimes (and murders) are committed through the use of hand guns than long guns by a very widfe margin. The registry, in and of itself, was likely well-intentioned; however, when some of the penalties for "offenses" under the Act are onerous and well outside common sense (is that Ontario judge who ruled mandatory sentencing for gun violations reading this?) than it's time to stop the money pit from getting any deeper and investigate more efficient ways to control violence.


alma
said

More job losses. why doesn't the federal government start cutting executive jobs and there are too many. associate assistant deputy minister? i mean come on. what use is that positionguess the EI will be busy these days


Annette
said

It's about time


Island Man
said

Harper Economics 101....Let everyone have an unregistered gun because I have lots of new free prison space and since I have cut off the benefits we pay to prisoners we will save money...oops, we will spend any savings on my new Internet Snooping System but I will figure a way to screw people over with that.


Franck Commonsens
said

I wonder if a victim cares if the bullet who is killing him/her was shot by a gun who was registered or not? I wonder how many criminals actually buys their guns in proper stores and takes the time to register their weapons?I wonder if illegal guns traffickers instead of removing all markings, register their guns and verify the proper identity, rights and motives of their buyers?This legislation not only serve absolutely nothing at all for public security, but is only a way to "misplace" legally billions from supervision.


SB
said

That's the problem with these Reformers and their Conservative supporters: they don't really believe in anything. They're all about optics over reality. So Cons, please--- stop saying you support the repeal of the registry because it's a waste of taxpayer money and too expensive. Harper just replaced one so called waste of taxpayer money for another--- in his omnibus crime bill, which, by every measure and evaluation, is every bit the waste of taxpayer money and more, a monstrous expense with absolutely no effect on crime rates whatsoever. I would expect Cons, if they are truthful, to stand up to this wasteful ineffective bill as well---- but they don't. And they won't. Because like I said, Cons believe in one thing and one thing only: optics and party politics.


Brian in BC
said

The money that the Liberals wasted on the gun registry that didn't work, and the old submarines that didn't work either would have almost paid for the new F-35's to replace the current F-18's. Hey .. ....Liberals..... does that put your waste in perspective?


Ron in Ottawa
said

This is TERRIBLE news! Now all our hard-working police officers will have to keep their vests on when they drive up to a house for a domestic dispute or warrant execution... in the past, they could take off those heavy, hot, uncomfortable vests confident in a 100% accurate gun registry... oh... wait.. nevermind. Too bad no former beat cops are/were powerbrokers in the Liberal Party of Canada - we might have saved some tax dollars for a higher purpose.


paul gilchrist
said

the govt 2 billion dollar boondogal has done next to zero to curb crime. The whole program is targeting longgun owners whom are allready legal. this program is just smoke screen for the public to cover the real issues of the iileagal guns and resrticted guns flowing over the boarder. the registery was just another tax grab! will the public please open thier eyes and see the truth. when was the last time you saw a duck hunter with a shotgun and a labrador by his side walk in a bank and demand money?


Rob
said

I find it ironic that a government who wants to get rid of the long gun registry because of the facts that everyone one knows. Is set to try and impart on us the biggest invasion of our privacy and has a huge cost issue, in the law that allows the police to search our internet information.


Bill C.
said

The Gun registry has as much to do with CRIME, as Stock Car Racing has to do with criminal road racing. More women have been beaten, many times to death, by someone under the influence of alcohol than have ever been killed by a firearm. How would you YOU like it if the Government made the simple possession of alcohol a criminal offense. then passed the requirement that you NEED a Liquor License to buy and possess alcohol or be jailed for 5 years. Then, publicly insinuated that ANYONE with a Liquor License should be watched, tracked, and have many of their basic rights removed, because they were ALL not to be trusted. ALL of them, every last one of them, were just future drunk drivers, biding their time to get behind the wheel and kill someone. THAT'S what the Liberals did to hunters, collectors and target shooters. That's why the entire Liberal Gun Farce should be repealed for a return to the previous F.A.C. system that made NO ONE a criminal for the legal possession of a firearm they have safely owned for 50 years!


LDL in Ontario
said

This has been a long time coming. Yet there will still be many that don't know the difference between a long gun and an assault rifle or hand gun that think some how, magically they were safer with the useless registry. As if once smuggled in from the U.S. the criminal element of our society rushed to register their weapon after they acquired it. As a sportsman and hunter I refuse to be lumped in with the Marc Lapene's (sp) of this world or treated like some kind of misogynist as a result of the tragedy at the Montreal Polytechnique, just because I'm a long gun owner. I don't think you will find a single, responsible long gun owner that does not believe and support increased scrutiny, registration and penalty for illegal possession of a restricted firearm.


Jess
said

Also, Just because the LONG GUN REGISTRY is gone, this is for all you pro-long gun registry people. The goverment will still now who has guns in there homes, why? Because we still need a PAL/FAC card to buy ammunition and guns in a store or online. Therefore if the police really wanted to know who MAY have a gun in there house, they still have the option, they just dont have the option of knowing what guns. I use my guns at the gun range, to go hunting with when its hunting time. They are locked cleaned and ammunition away, why should i be punished by having to document every single gun in my house? I'm not going to kill someone. People want to kill someone, they will do it wether the gun is registered or not. If someone wants to commit sucied they will do it whatever way they need too. The stats on guns, are not as bad as most of you think. The kitchen knife is far more dangerous in the hands of most people.. Would you like to register your kitchen knifes?


izomorph
said

How many lives has the LGR saved? Zero. Why? Because the LGR is just a database of hunters and farmers. What about criminals? We are talking about the LGR, which has no criminals, unless you want to make hunting and farming a criminal activity. Imagine what 2 billion tax payer dollars a year can do on REAL crime prevention like more law enforcement or the other hundreds of programs to get gangs off the streets and thieves away from your property or rapists away from your daughters.


Ted from Toronto
said

The money wasted on this registry that could have been better spent on mental health care instead. I would love to see a full accounting of where the money went. I would guess that more than a few liberal friends had their firms contracted to the trough.


PJR
said

For a government that prides itself on being tough on crime, it sure doesn't listen to the police who wanted to keep the registry or at least the information already collected! this is an ongoing pattern with this government, they don't listen to criminologists about crime issues, statisticians about statistics or environemental scinetists on climate. The worst part is that when their ideology puts them at odds with these experts, rather than argue their point s and try to convince Canadians that they are right, the simply attack the messenger. it's too bad that our political parties seem to get more and more arrogant the longer they stay in office..


Colin
said

Now instead of criminals buying their guns in the US, smuggling them across the border they can simply buy them in Canada and not register them. Most people here probably can't solve 2 2 based on the logic I have seen. What a pathetic cause to align yourself with.


Len
said

Registry did cost a lot to set up. I don't own a gun at present but did hunt earlier in life so had a rifle or two. But, I don't understand the fuss. Guess I'm just naive about these things. Don't understand the big to-do about registering one's gun. We have to register our cars, we register our houses, we register other things. Seems that people who own guns have things to hide and demons in the closet. But, don't nderstand the hulla-balloo.


Ryan in AB
said

Can we get rid of car registration also it makes me feel like a criminal if I don't register my car.


Leesa Riopel
said

Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Therefore the gun registry never worked


free choice
said

to all you against getting rid of the registry because you think it helps save the police ,you have it all backwards there are millions of unregistered guns out there if a cop assumes there is no guns in the place they are entering because of the registry check and goes in unprepared he will have a big surprise when he is shot with a invisible gun that wasnt there


gary
said

Time to scrap this money eating project that is totally useless


CoreyAlberta
said

see this is what kills me. we finally got a government in power that is making good on their promises they made during the campaign.. the promises they were elected for.... the Canadian people have voted and have spoken. we want the long gun registry abolished. all these left wing nut jobs crying wolf that the sky is falling. is bogus. The people spoke the people voted. and now the government is following through.. whether u are for or against this legislation. at least acknowledge that the government is keeping its promise. which is more than i can say for any liberal government.


Mick
said

Well Intelligent Liberal, I guess really you aren't that, considering hunting has it own Federal and Provincial laws that limits the amount of birds and other game that can be taken. Most hunters are also very much into conservation. We have learned from history, that if you kill off all the game, then there isn't any for later. I know many police officers who believe the registry is a bunch of BS


Stu
said

The neo-con reformers have been working hard on ways to increase Canada's crime rate that will make our streets more dangerous, 100% totally going backwards. Unregistered guns for everyone just what the police don't want.


Pietro
said

The pro gun registry people commenting here should do a little more reading before they start blathering nonsense. All this noise about police not knowing whether or no a person has a gun when the enter a situation, its actually better that they do not and treat all situations with equal caution, just because they enter a home where a gun is not registered does not mean there isn't a gun. The registry has also been used y police officers who don't understand the registry to harass law abiding persons.

PLEASE DO SOME READING BEFORE YOU POST NONSENSE!!


Joe Szentirmay
said

This couldn't come too soon!


S from Alberta
said

To all those people that think beat cops use this before going to a call, you're WRONG! It would be naive to think there is no gun in a place just because it is not registered. EVERY call should be treated as if a weapon is there. Come on people, have some common sense.


ChrisM
said

Happy and proud to have a government that does amazing things. And as long as they keep doing these things and beating back silly and muddled-thinking laws from Fiberal governments, I will support them. Both at the ballot box and through the cheques I send to the Conservative Party.


Lane
said

This Liberal Senator Cowan must be delusional if he really thinks anyone wants the unelected Senate to have intense and lengthy deliberations on a bill that has already been debated in the elected House of Commons for years. Just pass the bill and scrap the registry already. For the Senate to do otherwise would be mere obstruction.


Fran
said

To all of you who felt like "criminals" because you had to register your guns, GROW UP! I can't wait for the next election, to throw these nuts out of office. By now, Canadians understand who they elected and why Harper worked so hard at keeping the likes of Toews and Nicholson silenced until he got his majority.


Really?
said

So no long gun registry, but we may see a complete trampling of privacy in Toews latest rant? Just last week that same registry helped to find 159 stolen guns here in Victoria!


Freeman Blaze
said

Thank God for some sign of sanity in Ottawa. I do not need state nannyism to tell me if I can own a house a car or a hunting rifle. Nor do I need them to control if I have fish and moose in my deep freeze. Nor do I need the state to decide if I can drink alcohol or smoke pot. Nor do I need the state to decide if I'll speak French or English.
I know this will annoy the people who want the state to control everything so we can all be green and socialist. To bad.
By the way I don't smoke or drink or watch porn, I am fluently bilingual, I recycle and pay my taxes. I happen to also hunt and fish. Man is at the top of the food change because we are a predator species!
Great job Harper and CPC. Keep up the good work.


Salt and Vinegar
said

Can we get the Liberal Party to repay the the taxpayers the tax money spent on this? I don't see any Liberals trying to reach out to the public through the media and save this mess.


shawbrooke
said

Let's hope it passes, they get rid of the records that provide personal information to thousands of clerks who choose to look into their neighbors business, and we hear no more about it.


Bumcrack USA
said

Brought to you by your friendly neighbourhood Reform government who wants access at anytime without cause or warrant to your personal Internet information, but finds the need to register guns to be an intrusion into people privacy... --- of course, this is also the government who says that firing a warning shot to frighten trespassers away is a valid defense option!!!!! Thats what you get when you elect zealot ideologue right-wingers.


Joe F
said

Alright anti-long gun registry people; you got your way with your privacy now help those of us who feel threatened by the lawful access bill. Fair's fair, right?


J.C.
said

Guns are already registered and have to be at the time of purchase or ownership so I don't really see the point of having to register them twice. The officers that I know tell me that it is not of great benefit to them anyway. It shows up in their searches as no matter which file they search it automatically went to the gun registry search thus it would show as being used more often than it actually was or is. The registry itself has never stopped any criminal from illegally obtaining a gun and using it anyway. I am glad that hand guns must still be registered as well as any prohibited weapons too. Again though the criminals will find their way around that registry as well. Personally I would prefer all guns be banned across Canada (other than those used by police, military etc.) however I know that will not happen.


Serving Soldier
said

@ Intelligent LiberalYour comment was sarcastic right? Because I'm sure we could have spent over 2 billion dollars on alot of things that would have actually saved lives or prevented crime.


Jason
said

Another step forewards for Canada brought to us by our Majority voted Prime Minitser, Stephen Harper.


MacK
said

It's about time! What a waste of taxpayer money. Even if you were 100% against firearms I don't see how it would be acceptable for that much taxpayer money to go to tracking legal law abiding citizens. Are firearms used in suicides and robberies? Sure they are. One could just as easily if not more so use a knife. Yet to my knowledge no knives have serial numbers or permits. If we registered everything that could kill someone sports equipment and everything else under the sun would have a permit. Why is common sense and logic no longer followed in this country!?


So Happy
said

Yippy.....i will no longer feel like a criminal. This has been a big waste of Tax payer dollars. For the money that they will save not paying for the Registry, they can buy lots for rope for the REAL criminals.


MBH
said

Finally some common sense. The Long Gun Registry should have been gone a long time ago.


BrianFr Langley
said

Rural Canadians will breathe a sigh of relief. As for our urban brethren the gangs that are shooting up their cities aren't registering their guns they're smuggling them in from other countries. Good riddance to a billion dollar boondoggle that was a 100% waste of time and money.


Gord in Airdrie
said

It's about time this useless registry died. True facts prove that it has no effect on crime, the cops on the street know this even if their politically motivated leaders say it works. Goodbye feel good law, hello common sense! Thank you Conservative Party of Canada!


jjaycee
said

AT LAST!!!!


Intelligent Liberal
said

Island Man is correct, the Reformers are getting their way and sending Canada back 100 years in time! Now Alberta farmers will be able to shoot all the ducks they want to with no repercussions. Sure, the gun registry cost billions to upkeep, but what else would be better to spend that money on than registering duck hunter guns?


A Proud Canadian
said

It's about time ISLAND MAN.
the registry was a big and I nean a BIG waste of money that could have provided the police of our country many more officers that could have been more effective.


Josh
said

Its really too bad that people feel the need to slander Harper because they don't like his policies. We lived for a decade under what some people consider the terror of the Liberal Party, and Conservative minded people simply waited for our turn in government. All these anti-Harper comments on here really just seem like sour grapes to me.


Mitch
said

Island Man - I take it you're not a hunter, and are really only impacted by this by what the news says. Don't get lost in terminology as well - Restricted means all pistols (hand guns), you know, the kind that you're afraid of. They are still registered, nothing will change for that. "Harpers Right Wing Reform Party" as you put it, was voted in by the majority of voting Canadians. Just because it doesn't fit YOUR agenda, doesn't mean it's not what the majority wants.


Zhimmy
said

A good day for the Rednecks that have taken over the country via Harper!


Basile
said

This is discusting! So now if a policement goes into a situation he won't get access to data that could prevent potential injury or his death or other bystanders and the goverment is celebrating!!!! That also means that the next agent death or bystanders death, will be on the goverments head!!! A real triumph!!! I guess thats how the west likes it!!


Markus
said

Get rid of the long gun registry to "reduce government meddling"... implement Canada-wide spying... These guys are cooks. Anything BUT CONservative. Every day they look more and more like the Bush "administration". It's almost as if I am living in the United States. Where is Pye and his frothing soapbox rants?


Moe from Ontario
said

This bill, when first introduced and passsed, was nothing more than a money grab and a total waste of taxpayer's hard earned money.I agree with handguns and restricted weapons being left alone but the long gun registry was, in my eyes, discrimination against hunters and sportsmen. Some people have blinders on and see all guns as evil!!!!


jay
said

Its about time!


Island Man
said

Another step backwards for Canada brought to us by Harper's Right Wing Reform Party


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