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Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper and his wife Laureen board a government aircraft as they prepare to depart from Ottawa on Monday February 6, 2012. (Adrian Wyld / THE CANADIAN PRESS) Prime Minister Stephen Harper and his wife Laureen board a government aircraft as they prepare to depart from Ottawa, Monday, Feb. 6, 2012. (Adrian Wyld / THE CANADIAN PRESS)  Prime Minister Stephen Harper and his wife Laureen board a plane as they depart for a four-day visit to China at the airport in Ottawa, Monday, Feb. 6, 2012.

China talks must go beyond oil: Opposition

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Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper and his wife Laureen board a government aircraft as they prepare to depart from Ottawa on Monday February 6, 2012. (Adrian Wyld / THE CANADIAN PRESS) Prime Minister Stephen Harper and his wife Laureen board a government aircraft as they prepare to depart from Ottawa, Monday, Feb. 6, 2012. (Adrian Wyld / THE CANADIAN PRESS)  Prime Minister Stephen Harper and his wife Laureen board a plane as they depart for a four-day visit to China at the airport in Ottawa, Monday, Feb. 6, 2012.

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Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper and his wife Laureen board a government aircraft as they prepare to depart from Ottawa on Monday February 6, 2012. (Adrian Wyld / THE CANADIAN PRESS)

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Date: Mon. Feb. 6 2012 8:59 PM ET

The official Opposition is calling on Prime Minister Stephen Harper to broaden trade talks with China beyond energy during his visit to the country this week.

Harper boarded a plane in Ottawa around midday Monday for a four-day visit designed to strengthen ties with the Asian giant.

Major powerbrokers from Canada's energy sector are travelling with Harper, as part of an entourage that also includes a number of representatives from Canada's agricultural, transportation and education sectors.

The presence of presidents from several oil and gas companies, some of whom are involved in major pipeline projects, highlights the Chinese interest in Canadian energy.

But the NDP says the prime minister must address issues such as the loss of manufacturing jobs in Canada.

"If these trade talks are only about oil, which is a wonderful resource we are giving away as fast as we can, then we will have failed the hundreds of thousands of Canadians and our children, who are looking for productive employment," Jinny Sims, the NDP's international co-operation and deputy foreign affairs critic, told CTV News Channel.

"This has to be about far more than oil. This has to be about manufacturing, and it has to be looking at trade in the widest spectrum."

This week's visit comes as an 18-month hearing process continues for the proposed Northern Gateway pipeline, which is meant to transport Alberta bitumen to British Columbia for eventual export to Asia.

Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird, who is also on the China trip with the prime minister, has said Chinese investment in Canadian oil sands could be beneficial as long as it's measured.

"We should be very clear we don't want anyone to own all of a Canadian commodity, all of a Canadian natural resource," Baird told CTV's Question Period on Sunday.

U.S. President Barack Obama's recent rejection of the Alberta-Texas Keystone XL pipeline appears to have ramped up government hopes for the Northern Gateway.

Natural Resources Minister Joe Oliver has been vocal about his hopes for a more streamlined hearing process and has stressed the importance of Canada expanding its oil market beyond the United States.

But local citizens groups and First Nations communities in British Columbia have been vocal in their opposition to the Northern Gateway project.

Gregory Chin, chair of the China Research Group at the Centre for International Governance, said developing China as a market for Canadian oil "is really essential" given that it's the fastest growing economy in the world.

"It's going to be extremely important for Canada to diversify beyond the United States at a time when Canadians and the Canadian government are trying to secure prosperity for Canadians," Chin told CTV's Power Play in an interview from Kitchener, Ont.

Greg Stringham, vice president of the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers, said Canada must exploit the interest in its energy products, especially in Asian markets such as China, Japan and Korea.

"With the growth that's going on the thirst for not just oil but let's remember natural gas as well, which is very abundant right now in North America, is very strong and growing," Stringham told Power Play.

Wenran Jiang, founder of the University of Alberta's China Institute and a government adviser, said if Northern Gateway is stalled, China could sell oil production to the U.S. and buy additional crude on the open market.

While energy is high on the agenda for Harper's China visit, the Prime Minister is also expected to push other issues during his meetings with Chinese President Hu Jintao and Premier Wen Jiabao.

Federal officials have said that China's human rights record as well as ongoing violence in Syria and concerns over Iran will be on the agenda.

After China joined Russia in vetoing a UN Security Council resolution that called for Syrian President Bashar Assad to step down, Baird told CTV's Question Period that he planned to raise the issue with Chinese officials.

Sims said rather than compromise trade talks with China, raising the issue of the UN veto is imperative for both Harper and Baird who have both "spoken very passionately" about the resolution.

"While we're there, absolutely we should be using this opportunity to try to understand why China vetoed, and then using our persuasive powers to persuade them to not veto so that there can be united sanctions against Syria," Sims said.

While Baird and Harper have been urged to address human rights issues with the Chinese government, a group of B.C. aboriginals is calling on Chinese officials to bring up Canada's human rights record, particularly with respect to the First Nations population.

The group has written two letters, one to Hu and another that is making the rounds among Chinese media, which outline a number of issues China should find troubling about Canada.

The problems include the number of missing and murdered aboriginal women, as well as the proportion of First Nations inmates in Canada's jails.

Chief Larry Nooski, one of five chiefs to sign the letter, said he wants to help China understand "the facts of life" for aboriginals.

With files from The Canadian Press

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Slowly EvolvingTory
said

Clearly, the winner here, at the end of the day is the Communist Government of China. They are the most effective political system in the world. Harper is smart to set aside ancient ideological innuendos of democracy, individual freedom and human rights to get down to business with the communists. At the end of the day, it's about a pay cheque.


butterflybluelu
said

In China people are dying from smog that is 20 times above the World Health Organization's recommended human safety levels. Do we want tar sands oil to contribute even more to this tragedy?

Here in Canada, the Tories want to reopen debate about the rights of unborn children but they should also give consideration to the rights of life for the Chinese people!

Linda in Vancouver
said

Hang on ther Sparky.Unless my memory is seriously flawed,it was former PM Trudeau who opened up Canada's relationship with China.I find it odd that Liberals are now complaining as Harper goes to China.It's a position he likely doesn't want to be in.But in the absence of American markets,and the presence of a global economy on the brink,I give him credit for being pragmatic. If you want free social programs,you had better have plans to make the money to pay for them. We should not be arguing about whether or not we sell to China.The real discussion should be about what we do with the money we stand to make . Do we spend it all on free programs for our selves, or do we spend it building something that will serve our children and grandchildren when they grow up,and want jobs so they can raise families of their own??


PM
said

I think I remember the last time the Conservative gvt. made human-rights the main focus of a meeting with China... the opposition complained that it wasn't 'nuanced', and that we wouldn't have any effect on China until we played nice and did more business... so now they're complaining because the government is doing both at the same time? No... it's just because they would rather badmouth all things oil related than make a serious effort to do their jobs.


Maury Finkelstein
said

Western wealth gurus (Bill Gates, Warren Buffet etc.) and Western Politicians have sold their citizens out to "Made in China" because they're all being paid-off to cast the spell on the mass public who is paying through the nose for their greedy mindset. I'm throughly disgusted!


jimminy Cricket
said

Here's the problem with selling China oil. They have an enormous demand and will diminish our supply. Economics 101 is supply and demand. Guess what's going to happen to the prices at the pumps here once the supply is diminished?


Camwest
said

To all those who talk about selling oil to China is selling out Canada. We are presently selling oil for $10 a barrel less than the world price to the Americans. So by getting the pipeline to BC in place and getting our oil to the world market we will make $10 a barrel X 1.9 million barrels a day X 365 days = ~7 billion a year more cash to Canada. Wake up!!!! Is not trading with China worth that much??


Island Man
said

The only person that said anything constructive in these comments is Ginette...keep the refinery jobs in Canada


Max in Vancouver
said

"If these trade talks are only about oil, which is a wonderful resource we are giving away as fast as we can, then we will have failed the hundreds of thousands of Canadians and our children, who are looking for productive employment," Jinny Sims, the NDP's international co-operation and deputy foreign affairs critic, told CTV News Channel.The NDP should be used to failing thousands, it's what their party stands for. Any other "demands" by the NDP?


NDP Genuis
said

This has to be about far more than oil. This has to be about manufacturing, and it has to be looking at trade in the widest spectrum. Wow, the NDP need to start reading CTV online. I'm pretty sure Mr. Harper had a few more folks on board that aircraft, like agriculture, transportation and education. I'm not an expert, but really quick, I don't think those are oil are they? The NDP are becoming masters of embarrassment.


Major Whyte
said

Can we buy him a one way ticket there and throw in a house?


Doug ^^^ BC
said

It gets a little tiring hear central Canadians whine about how Canada needs more diverse markets for it's exports.Especially when we in the west are working hard to accomplish just that.Grow up back there.You make money selling to customers who want to buy your products. What part of "the USA no longer wants products from Canada" do you latte sucking yuppies and bleeding heart socialists not understand? BC is in a race with Australia,Quatar,the USA, and Russia to sell LNG to Asia. Are all those countries and their leaders corrupt too? Should we just cede the Chinese market to them so they can make money supplying a product that Asia needs. The USA now has it's own natural gas, so they don't buy ours any more. It's a business deal,not a marraige.The more markets we have,the better positioned our entire economy will be.Are you flipping socialists also against our lumber exports to China? That has also been doubling annually for several years. How obscene is it that the political power is in eastern and central Canada,and the west is where the economy is growing? If the west cannot export to Asia,please help me out here.What is Ontario and Dalton McGuinty doing to recusitate the manufacturing base in central Canada? If "waiting for the US economy to recover" is the best you can do,I say "that's not good enough". Canada needs growth and more revenue now. Not 2 decades from now.


Phillip Martin
said

WHAT OPPOSITION?The NDP hate the oilsands..just listen to the opposition chief WHINER MEAGHAN LESLIE who is still trying to find Alberta on her Christmas GPS that Martin gave her.In the latest POLL by Angus Reid... Prime Minister Harper was again voted as the best leader in Canada 40 points ahead of the "OTHERS".Meaghan Leslie cried all night thinking of all the Nova Scotians who work in the Alberta OIL PATCH


fed up
said

I am happy that Harper is leaving for China and I hope he took the rest of the conservative party there with him and that the Chinese gov. throw him and his members in jail at hard labor for the next ten years because the Chinese gov. as no tolerance for gov. officials that waste tax payers money for themselves.


jjaycee
said

So who are the Corporate Business people including some of the Pipeline people that were reported to be going with Harper. Does the Left not know how to read? Do they lack comprehension? Do they ignore whatever does not fit their adgenda. This sort of thing used to be called propaganda.


Geta grip
said

China will not care about human rights, they support Syria ... will not and should not go beyond oil!!!


edward
said

China gives us Pandas, we give them Harper.


trekkie
said

Am I the only who knows that Canada gives financial aid to China, because we still consider it a third world poor country? What a farce!!!! China owns over 90% of the America debt. They could bankrupt the U.S. anytime they wanted by just asking them to pay up!! And how much of the Canadian debt do they own? Pretty soon Canada and the U.S. will only be provinces of China. Well one good thing about that is we would get rid of elizabeth windsor (known as the queen to you brown nosing monarchists).


Susie-Q Mtl.
said

I'm no fan of the Conservatives. I vote for Liberals or N.D.P. I think Prof. Pye Chartt Speaks responsibly. I like most of his comments. As for this trip to China-I just hope Harper makes it quite clear to China to cut out the Lead ,Cadmuin, & Barium in what ever products they send here. I'm getting tired of all these recalls. Doesn't China get the message-Stop poisoning us? The States doesn't want our oil. China does. We need money to keep the country going. If China can pay the price give it to them. Maybe the money can go to OAS so people can retire at 65. Why does Harper's wife need to go? To see the Great Wall Of China as a side trip? I hope every body who went on this trip is for business & not mainly pleasure. I take comfort in the knowledge in 3 1/2 years we can vote again. Thank God for democracy. We can vote in peace here. I hope Harper makes good deals. The OAS needs it. Bye.


George
said

Bulldog The majority of the 140 billion of debt that Harper created was done all by himself. The majority of the debt was incurred because of Harper's corporate welfare & not stimulus spending. what are you thinking praising such an incompetent PU.


GHW
said

Our bitumen has a shelf life. Do you really think we'll be able to hang onto it for our own personal use while world demand jumps through the roof? Not a chance. Sell, sell, sell. Once all the oil is gone then we'll all switch over to much more expensive alternative energies and unless some rocket scientist invents a fusion reactor we'll all be living a much lower standard of living. Then we'll be fighting over food and water.


Joan in Real World
said

Good fiscal management entails keeping your eye on the bigger picture. Weighting in the long term effects of policy, their pros, but also their risks for the country's sovereignty, control over its resources, short term gains vs, long term needs, environmental risks etc. This project only yields big bucks for big Oil companies and a small amount of short term jobs. Meanwhile, its risks for the environment are staggering. Studies also say that it will only drive the price of gas up in this country.


Terry Hall
said

Oxymoron: Harper talking Human rights to China.


Jt
said

Duke
Its funny you say people treat Harper is a hero the thing is people in Ontario treat Dalton as a hero.


John
said

Well Harper has already sold out to the amerikans, the chinese next I guess. Pretty soon no Canadian will own anything of our resources.


true
said

Please please please Harper - don't come back please


Bulldog
said

@ George, is there no satisfying you lefties? First you criticize Harper for inaction as the recession hit and credit Ignatieff and company for forcing the Cons to spend money. Then once Harper wins a majority you complain about the debt! Now you and yours in the loony left in the peanut gallery are whining about the Harper establishing trade deals with China in order to help pay down the debt. The only question I have left is, what sort of mental disorder do you lefties suffer from? Based on your logic there is something wrong.


Justin Ladd
said

Hong Kong billionaires are fuelling the "Made in China" ponzi scheme that is bankrupting the world and making Hong Kong filthy rich off of slave labor on the mainland of China. They do not care if the rest of the world sinks just as long as they keep buying the dumped product off ChinaMart's shelves. This is capitalism at its worse with greedy psychotic money grubbers niching easy life off of the backs of billions around the world under the guise of pretty words like globalism or emerging markets. It's all going to crash very soon.


J.C.
said

Oh and by the way, I also remember the Giant Panda's were at the Toronto Zoo for awhile one summer past as I went to see them there. Harper was not in power then either, the Liberals were. That was before any of us ever heard of Harper!!


Don (from Manitoba)
said

China has a poor record on everything, I whom always voted conservative, won't be voting for Harper's conservatives in the next election.


J.C.
said

Well Well. As I recall it was the Liberals who first started all this trade with China. I clearly remember Martin flying over there many times for business meetings with them. I am not partisan to any party but sheesh can some of you people at least get the facts straight . Yes it was Martin (Liberal) that pushed for the Chinese manufacturing trade etc. How come some of you conveniently forget this fact??? Oh yea that's right - you just hate Harper so anything he does is wrong, right??


Len
said

@Mark in Newmarket:Agree with you 100% if you took my comments in that context. I spent several years in the military also but not enough to claim that I retired from the forces. But, my context was in reference to the parties, or governments, that enacted these legislations. In your context that includes everyone, even the selling of our country to foreign entities. So, agree that the soldiers - retired and fallen - contributed a lot. Was only referring to who passed the legislation in the first place.


Duke
said

As usual, the Harper followers fail to grasp any of the substantive issues involved in the comments posted by loyal Canadians and "think" it's all about poor Harpo being criticized. Get over your hero-worship, Conned.


Fred
said

Synopec, the Chinese company being the Gateway pipeline, is already part owner of Syncrude. Since 2010, it has veto power on all decisions by Syncrude regarding whether to process its bitumen in Alberta or exporte it unprocessed (google it). The Gateway project will give it even more control over our oil. Do we really want to give away long term control of our resources for quick bucks (which will profit big Oil only) and short term jobs?


Hypocrisy
said

Money and greed first. Who cares about democracy and human rights in Syria.


doug
said

wow it looks like the over worked civil servents are working hard today...seems a lot of them are on here Harper bashing as usual...i would have thought with a nice day, and monday, most would be on the canal after calling in sick,especially after the U.S football game partys.....hope most of you find time to show up for work at least one or two days this week....earn some of the money we taxpayers are paying you!!!!!!!!!!!



Lorne-MTL
said

There will be very little job creation from this project, and most jobs created will be short term. On the other hand, there will be big profits for big oil, and big risks for BC, our landscape and our environment. This porjects means big gains for Oil companies, short term jobs for a few, long term environmental risks and continued erosion of our control over our resources.


CE
said

We can learn a lot from how China evolved in the last 30 years. Before the reform started in the early 80's, China adopted a communism model economically. Everyone was equal -- equally poor. Since the reform, the economy took off. The capitalism system China has adopted helped create plenty of entrepreneurs and industrialists. Sure there is now inequality as there are many many millionnaires and billionaires in China while there are others who still live in poverty. But that is better than the whole country is living in poverty. Those who do not believe that capitalism is better than socialism even for the poor just need to look at China.


reidjr
said

George
Its not a lock he will be voted out plus people will look at the other partys and most can see they would do no better.


Just Sell It
said

Canada should keep it's resources? For what? How much wheat products can you consume? How much uranium does Canada need? How much oil can you burn? How much lumber do you need ? We've only got 34 million people, including children. There are 34 million people in California alone. Geesh.

Duke
said

Harper wending his way to the Middle Kingdom, where he will kowtow. He won't be talking about Syria or anything but selling resources to China.


conductor274
said

Harper sneers at any party that's left of center as socialists or in extreme cases as communists. They are to be ridiculed, ignored and most important denied any positions of power according to Harper. But look at Harper now. His new best friends are the communist Chinese. The largest, most oppressive communist government in the world who oppress and imprison people for political dissent and for their religious beliefs. That used to mean something to Harper but human rights no longer hold any importance to Harper. By the presence of the presidents of different oil companies accompanying Harper to China it's obvious who controls our government. Harper is acting like a traitor to his own beliefs. He favors communist interests ahead of Canadian interests. What's next? More prisons to house political dissenters? Oops! They're already being planned.


LDL in ONT
said

Here is a simple litmus test question I use to determine if Harper & Co. are doing the right thing. Is it pissing off the far left ? If so....it's the right thing !


Jon in Burlington
said

to Joan in real world, my head is clearly out of my --- as you so eloquently put it. My world involves reducing debt, balancing the books, keeping my job, eating ,making sure my grand kids have and education etc. All of these things require us to seal with other countries that want to buy our resources whether it be oil, cars, hydro electric, lumber etc. The jobs as you put it might be temporary, but you can bet your booties that there are about 450 people in London right now that would like to have a few years of work. You on the other hand still have your head , well you know where because you in all probability would love to tax the well to do and spread it among the so called poor and down trodden that seem to have time to protest but no time to look for work. I have worked my --- for 50 years and proud to live in a country where I got a decent education a reasonable price, made a successful career for myself and paid taxes every year to help pay for and live in this amazing country called Canada, so, besides getting your little ego smacked this am, What have you and your ilk done for our country except whine ???


Mark in Newmarket
said

@Len: No, it wasn't the lefties who gave us all these things. It was the members of the Canadians Forces who have fought, died and sacrificed for their country so that we today can have all these things that "we" and even "you" enjoy. If it weren't for the Canadian Soldier, Sailor or Airmen/women you would not be enjoying any of what you have today. So, I take acception to what you have said as a retired soldier who has served my country and to ensure that you can post on places like this one to share you opinion in freedom.


confused?
said

we don't have to sell OUR oil to China ! THEY want to sell our oil to China so THEY can reap huge profits! And when the travel season is upon us we will have JACKED up prices to apease THEM! There will be SUPPLY problems ???/ Can't THEY supply enough to keep the prices stable ?Whats goin on here? A baboon could run Canada and make a profit!HANG EM ALL from the highest oil derrick!!


Len
said

To those who agree with what Harper is doing: the lefties, as you call them, set up the safeguards in our banking system and this is what you now enjoy; the lefties are the ones who gave you health care; the lefties are the ones who gave you the standard of living that you enjoyed up until about 2008; the lefties are the ones who did the most to make Canada for Canadians; among many other things that you complain about. If you are of the age that makes you not realize this you should go to take some history lessons. Yes, Harper wants to sell oil to the Chinese but since he has become PM his government has, and is, accomplished one thing: the selling of Canada oversees or down south.


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

The Liberal supporters in the anti-Conservative peanut gallery are always a source of political entertainment. Clearly, they are unaware that the biggest, most prominent, and most successful paid lobbyist in Canada promoting trade with China -- including that concerning energy (oil) -- is former Liberal PM Chretien. He is regarded in the highest circles as "Mr. China," and serves as an advisor to Canadian companies -- including those in the resource sector -- seeking to do business with the Red Giant. The notion, therefore, that Conservative PM Harper is putting Canada on a reckless ideological course (Chretien has publicly criticized Harper for not paying ENOUGH loving attention to China) is pure partisan nonsense. Having said this, however, my personal feeling is that China is our "frienemy," and we should tread carefully, cautiously, and, most of all, strategically. When it comes to who has more of Canada's best interests at heart, I'd hitch my wagon to the U.S.A. any day of the week. (Anti-Americans are naive fools.) At the U.N., and elsewhere on the planet, on a myriad of fronts, China can typically be found moving in an aggressively opposing direction to the West. We need to keep our eyes open. (Note: This trip to China also includes Canadian representatives of our agriculture, transportation, and education sectors.)


Ottawa Jack
said

Must applaud the patience of the CTV monitors as they sort through all the repetiitive petty partisan submissions. However, it appears that many postings have nothing to contribute to the topic discussed except 'I am anti-Harper'. Please post this CTV & try to remain unbiased.


GHW
said

Wow all the Harper hating communist wing nuts are out in full force today. What do you have against trade with other countries. China is slowly moving toward more civil rights. The best way to help this is through greater cooperation in capitalism which generates personal wealth. Rome wasn't built in a day. Also they have every right to veto UN proposals. It's called democracy. I agree with some of the other posters here; take your Valium and let the hard working adults runs things. Harper is going to be around for a while so if you find it hard to live here perhaps you should move to Greece where you'd fit in nicely.


Dean
said

Ah Koster, i see you convieniently forgot Obama's campaign promise to reduce unemployment to under 7%.Oh and how he's tripled the debt in only 3 years (a record by any president) .Hmm and how about job creation that his half trillion$$ stimulus package was supposed to bring yet unemployment remained above 9%?? Tens of thousands would have been there had Keystone gone ahead, but no, weak leaders have to pander to their radical support base so that project was DOA.Bottom line? As long as this indecisive lefty is around, nothing will change.it's only media support keeping him in office anyway.Sell the oil to China and be done with the US.


George
said

It seems the neo-con reformers on this site are an angry bunch, their constant name calling like little children. Were not to blame that Harper's corporate welfare has added billions to our national debt. Face it he's a loser & will be voted out next election.


kevin cranston
said

hey Steve don't forget to tell the Chinese we are sick and tired of them sending us toys that poison our children, contaminated food products and dumping there ballast water from ships into our fresh water lakes(invasive species)


Edward
said

If this was Obama going to China, it would be making headlines all over Canada. I wonder if Harpers visit to China will get any mention in the US.


lc
said

Hate to burst all the Harperites bubble who are under the illusion cons are the reason for Canada being in better financial straights than most of the world.It was your hated liberals who resisted following most of the western world on deregulating banks.It was the liberals who kept Canada from spending billions in Iraq.It was the liberals who put our pension system on sound footing.It was the liberals while developing the tar sands practiced a little restraint so our industrial belt would not be decimated.Harper and the cons were against all these moves as we are sadly seeing now.Personally not a big fan of the progressive talking corporate governing libs but when compared to the fascists cons those country club libs look awful good.As for the delusional world view of Harper supporters they seem beyond hope.


Phillip Martin
said

When bloggers write about foreign ownership and my local Canadian Tire store says that 88% of all his goods is made in China, some folks are out of touch. Then they go to McDonalds for a burger . Foreign investment gives us jobs. It was USA money that opened up both conventional oil in 1947 (Leduc) and 1967(Oilsands) as Canadians did not want to take a chance on high risk. Harper is doing the right thing for Canada. The lefties better go to Greece and see what happened there. They are broke with 28% unemployment. Canada is under siege by left wing zealots and fringe who never wear workboots. That's not MY CANADA.


Ginette
said

here's an idea..Canadians keep our natural resources, invest in and build refineries and reserves and employ thousands of CANADIANS to do it.


Raj
said

I am hoping for good things from this Trade Mission. It's great to diversify We cannot wait for the election in the USA, so that Obama can change his mind - againGod speed PM


William
said

This is a Prime Minister that knows a healthy economy is good for Canadian families and is heading far and wide to maintain and grow our economy with global partners. Harper "gets it". Lefties would rather sit at home whine and bitch over the environment and every other reason under the sun while our PM is out there taki9ng care of business. That is called responsible. Obama on the other hand is plowing the USA into the ground one day at a time.


MIkeW
said

To the left leading idiots on here. If Harper did not try to sell our oil along with other commodities your standard of leaving would shrink and you would have something else to bitch about. Wake Up. And based on who the next leaders of the opposition will be, Harper and his team will be in charge for the next 10 years.


Leon55
said

There is nothing unusual about a trade mission to a major world power, nor is it unusual for business executives to be included. After all, it is to discuss business. The Chinese need for oil also gives the Canadian government an opportunity to tie human rights to trade. But this is a subject that needs a light touch, diplomatically, and Harper has proven that he is quite adept at delivering the right message, at the right time. (as he proved in talks with European leaders recently, regarding their skyrocketing debt levels). The lefties who comment on this board should take a look at the real world and understand that there is really very little "black and white". And the person who made the comment about "business whores"? I trust you're living on welfare, not off the avails of some "business". Nice addition to society you are.


A Koster
said

As far as Dean's comment regarding unemployment numbers.. at the end of January, the US rate went down to 8.3% while Canada's went up to 7.6%.. they seem pretty close to me. Also regarding his comment about Asian markets paying top dollar for this oil.. allow me to explain the process.. China owns a big chunk of ownership in the oilsands.. $16 billion to $20 billion worth. In the event we build the pipeline.. which it also has a stake in btw.. which allows it a guaranteed capacity on the line.. China sends it's own oil to the coast and then loads it onto tankers for shipping to it's own refineries filled with cheap labor and already trained workers... China then sells it to other countries in Asia for top dollar.


Allan
said

How about cancelling the trip in the light that China and Russia voted against the UN Security the other day. Syria is burning and Mr Harper would rather deal oil than help the people. Nice job Mr Harper. No balls to stand up to the oppressors.


Len
said

Many people seem to miss the point that Harper is touting oil from Alberta, a major natural resource in our country. I realize that he wants to profit from its sale but the Chinese have already invested millions and millions into the Canadian resource sector. Soon they will own controlling interests of the resource and they get the raw material - the oil. This is the problem with what Harper is doing. He is selling this major resource to the Chinese when they already own so much of Canada, just like they do the States. Soon they will control everything in Canada. We ship them the natural resources, they use these resources to manufacture goods and items that we want and our manufacturing industries lose out and we lose thousands of jobs. This government is allowing this to happen. This government, led by Harper, is also lowering taxes on these off-shore companies. It is time that Canada wakes up to reality: we are being sold to foreign interests.


Fred
said

Harper only wants the Gateway project as a quick fix to the economic hole he has dug himself (and us) into. To make himself look good by eliminating the deficit quickly with the extra revenues. No thought for the risks envolved. Job creation is a smoke screen. Very few long term job creation. Just like the corporate tax cuts. Seen the results of those on job creation?


Sam
said

We were all so smug and praised ourselves for electing a PM with the good sense to stay out of Iraq and weighed the pros and cons of looting our natural resources. When millions of Americans where red faced every time Bush traveled abroad with war and big oil on his agenda we asked how could they elect this clown?. Well we have a PM who is every bit as aggressive on war and makes Bush seem like a socialist in the energy department. You can be sure of one thing. Millions of Americans are saying what happened to those once moderate sensible Canadians.


Mark in Newmarket
said

Harper is going to China as well, there are people from other sectors of the economy who will going as well, maininly Energy execs as well as agriculture and others. I don't know why people need to slam Harper who is the PM of this country and is looking out for the best interests in this country, he is doing the work a PM is suppose to do. It wouldn't matter if it were a Liberal, Conservative or even an NDP PM, they would all be looking out for Canada's best interests, trying to create wealth and jobs etc. Do you actually think that Harper is deliberately trying to destroy Canada? Has there been any PM in this country who willingly or deliberately tried to do harm this countries economy? I think not!


testy
said

meanwhile... back at home, opposition to the Gateway project increases. A fact that seems lost or of total unimportance to our own dear leader.


Joan in Real World
said

@Jon in Burlington. You should get your own *** out of **** and read up on stuff. Independent studies point to very minimal long term job creation and potential major increases in the price of oil for Canadians from the Enbridge project. --- And what is this need you have to insult people who don't think the way you do?


Tim from Ottawa
said

Harper is loading his jet full of other ministers needed for other business, cutting down on the cost of multiple trips. For those of you blaming Harper for the debt... blame the Liberals for making us dependent on the US and ultimately pulling us down with them during a recession. We depend too much on the US and need to be more valuable on the world stage. For those of you who think we are wrecking pristine country to run the pipeline... Have you seen how big our country is? Have you seen how many power lines run across our country? I would like to see more refineries in Canada though...


Dean
said

Good for you Harper. Obama fiddles while unemployment, debt and the US economy burns. Forget Keystone. It's past time to look beyond this weak dithering excuse of a president to the huge Asian market that is more than willing to pay top dollar for oil.


Fedup
said

Why dosn't he come clean and just say . ' He and some of his friends are taking a holiday on the tax payer's expense' Typical useless pollitician .


Jon in Burlington
said

People like Don, Alma and all the left leaning weenies should get there heads out of their butts and read a newspaper once in a while. Harper is selling our oil To China, so we can balance our budget create jobs with the new pipe line to Kitamat, keep a reasonable relationship with China as they will soon be one of our largest trading partners, yea I know human rights is and issue, blah, blah, blah. You should realize that this is their country and they have a pop. of over 1 billion people to keep under control, we have pop. of 34 million, a bit easier to manage If you had read a anything you would know that China is already heavily invested in the Oil Sands. Their is nothing Harper could or would do that would make you are ilk happy, right!!!!


5th Generation Canadian
said

Looking to sell off more of our natural resources to foreign interests Steve? Shame on you and your business whores.


Guelph Observer
said

So he is going to China with serveral presidents of oil and pipeline companies - all those guys that are flogging their dirty tar sands. Great, these are the same guys that he gave all the tax breaks to, and to make up for that revenue loss, he will recoup his losses on the backs of senior citizens and OAS changes. Thanks Mr. Harper you are a real tar prince of a guy.


Ken
said

Harper has no problem blowing Canadian tax payers money on trips for his supporters in the oil and gas industry. In case anyone has overlooked Harper's goal, it is to sell Arctic oil and gas to China rather than let the Russians have it. One would think it is a smart move let your 2 enemies fight it out for our oil except it has also pissed off our largest trading partner ... our closest ally or closest enemy depending on your view. Either way Harper continues to sell Canada short. The NDP and Liberals should be looking at ways to impeach the Prime Minister rather than trading barbs in Parliament.


Gerry from M.B.but not N.D.P.
said

To all the far left winnegs can you all keeping crying for 7 or 8 more years??


Alma
said

And he wants to cut spending???????maybe he should cut out some of these trips out. that would save quite a bit of money. and btw his wife should stay at home. even more money being saved. lol


Marlin
said

I see the partisan folks are out in full force. I really wonder if the leftists could support any action of the Harper government regardless of how much benefit it brought the country. Trade missions have always included business representatives so there is nothing new here. Expanded trade with China is a benefit to Canada so sit down, take a Valium and ignore the worlds realities as some of you have obviously been doing.


Stewie
said

While on his three-city tour, Harper will also meet with current and future Chinese political leaders to set the stage for a long-term relationship between the two countries. And everyday I'm out chatting up potential future ex-girlfriends, I guess me & Steve are twins. are these future Chinese political leaders still in diapers? More wasted tax dollars on a photo opt. It looks like Harper wants to reward the Chinese for vetoing the UN on Syria.


Steve H
said

Harper's off to China to trade oil for Chinese trinkets, it's seems he thinks our oil will spoil if he doesn't give it away soon. Harper's corporate tax cuts are more than half of the 140 billion he has added to our national debt.Our children will pay dearly for Harper's incompetence he keeps raking up the debt. Now he's off to give away our oil. Has anyone else noticed that the usual suspects don't comment on the weekends? I guess Harper only pays them 5 days a week to comment on this site.


Frank in NS
said

Unbeknown to some of the uneducated in here is that China already has a major investment in the Alberta tar sands, in development and research. Obama wants to play poker? He is playing with an ace. Harper will not cater to the Americans and allow Canada to lose billions of dollars each year. The environmentalists and Liberals in here should learn before they speak.


Steph
said

@1000voltman: There is an even greater majority that did not vote for the Liberals! Suck it up buttercup!


DON
said

Why is he taking his wife with him. AND WHO PAYING FOR HER .WE ARE. NOT RIGHT .


Smoke Ring - Ottawa
said

Saw on the NEWS last night that CPR would like to move oil from the West to the USA by rail, they already to partly but would like to be able to move more out of the Province of Alberta. Of course Greenpeace standing there NOT wanting this, would rather see this country go down like Europe.


TheOtherLowellInBC
said

This is one smart move that Harper is making. Finding new buyers for Canadian oil makes economic sense. The Americans don't have their act together vis a vis the political landscape. Its best to decrease the economic dependency with them.


John
said

I can't believe that this mission is still going ahead after the Chinese vetoed the Syrian deal. What are they thinking? obviously only about money. Why would we consider selling energy to a country who has no thought about human rights


1000voltman
said

Harper, don't forget that the majority of Canada's voters didn't want you or your party. Get us a deal with the 'commies' that benefits all Canadians, not just the ones you and yours are going to work for once you've slimed out of office.


Ottawa Jack
said

Hope Harper & Team can promote the interests of Canada in tourism, agriculture & exports. Canada certainly needs the jobs associated with trade exports


Giffin
said

Ok, Harper and Oil CEO's are headed to China after Obama putting the Keystone on hold. Question - Do you really think the threat of selling oil to the Chinese, building a pipeline to the west coast through some of the most pristine country on the planet and building a loading terminal in one of those BC sounds without a fight from the environmentalists will happen quicker than the Keystone pipeline? Really, end the Sabre rattling...


Frank Buchan
said

I await the commentary from the lunatics on all sides with bated breath. I love the media tilt on this one, too. Never mind that almost every diplomatic show-piece of this sort has private industry parts. Just paint the government of the day with a pro-oil sticker and send them sailing. And in anticipation of the "human rights" cries, Harper at least seems to realise that for those chastisements to have any weight be need an economic lever first. Right now it's one-sided in the extreme.


Brenda Paquette
said

I wonder if our tax dollars are paying for the oil companies executives to travel to China all expenses included?


A Koster
said

Harper has been summoned.. and his entourage will receive their instructions. Oilsands tar to China? already guaranteed back in 2009 eh Harper? Names and positions of those going would be nice.. I'd like to know who is travelling on the tax payers dime to take part in this farce.


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