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People gather for a rally dubbed a 'London Day of Action Against Corporate Greed,' in London, Ont., Saturday, Jan. 21, 2012.  (Dave Chidley / THE CANADIAN PRESS) Demonstrators waved union flags and pounded drums as they descended on a London, Ont., park Saturday, Jan. 21, 2012. Demonstrators waved union flags and pounded drums as they descended on a London, Ont., park Saturday, Jan. 21, 2012. Demonstrators waved union flags and pounded drums as they descended on a London, Ont., park Saturday, Jan. 21, 2012. Demonstrators waved union flags and pounded drums as they descended on a London, Ont., park Saturday, Jan. 21, 2012. A fire burns on the picket line at locomotive maker Electro-Motive, in London, Ont., Friday, January 20, 2012. Locked-out workers and supporters picket at the locomotive-maker Electro-Motive facility in London, Ontario, Monday, Janurary 2, 2012. (THE CANADIAN PRESS/Dave Chidley) Demonstrators waved union flags and pounded drums as they descended on a London, Ont., park Saturday, Jan. 21, 2012.

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People gather for a rally dubbed a 'London Day of Action Against Corporate Greed,' in London, Ont., Saturday, Jan. 21, 2012.  (Dave Chidley / THE CANADIAN PRESS) Demonstrators waved union flags and pounded drums as they descended on a London, Ont., park Saturday, Jan. 21, 2012. Demonstrators waved union flags and pounded drums as they descended on a London, Ont., park Saturday, Jan. 21, 2012. Demonstrators waved union flags and pounded drums as they descended on a London, Ont., park Saturday, Jan. 21, 2012. Demonstrators waved union flags and pounded drums as they descended on a London, Ont., park Saturday, Jan. 21, 2012. A fire burns on the picket line at locomotive maker Electro-Motive, in London, Ont., Friday, January 20, 2012. Locked-out workers and supporters picket at the locomotive-maker Electro-Motive facility in London, Ontario, Monday, Janurary 2, 2012. (THE CANADIAN PRESS/Dave Chidley) Demonstrators waved union flags and pounded drums as they descended on a London, Ont., park Saturday, Jan. 21, 2012.

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People gather for a rally dubbed a 'London Day of Action Against Corporate Greed,' in London, Ont., Saturday, Jan. 21, 2012.  (Dave Chidley / THE CANADIAN PRESS)

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Date: Sat. Jan. 21 2012 9:13 PM ET

Demonstrators waved union flags and pounded drums as they descended on a London, Ont. park Saturday to protest the ongoing lockout at the city's Caterpillar locomotive plant.

About 500 workers at the American heavy-equipment manufacturer's Electro-Motive plant have been locked out for three weeks.

Organizers estimate thousands of protesters attended the rally, which started at 11 a.m. in Victoria Park, across from London City Hall.

Paul Moist, head of Canada's largest union, was on hand to reiterate the purpose of the demonstration.

"We stand here today supporting good jobs," said Moist, national president of the Canadian Union of Public Employees (CUPE).

Workers at the plant were locked out after rejecting a contract offer that would have cut benefits and slashed wages by 50 per cent, while the company is reporting record profits.

Ken Lewenza, president of the Canadian Auto Workers union, maintains that corporate greed is at the heart of the Electro-Motive dispute.

Demonstrators have directed the bulk of their frustration at Caterpillar Inc., which owns Electro-Motive through its Progress Rail subsidiary.

Speaking from a makeshift stage, Lewenza called upon Canada's public and private sector workers to stand together.

"Workers together will never be defeated. Stand strong," the applauding crowd chanted at one point.

London Mayor Joe Fontana also attended the rally, where he urged Prime Minister Stephen Harper to pay attention to the city, The London Free Press reported.

Harper has yet to comment on the dispute, drawing criticism from union heads and federal NDP leader Nycole Turmel.

For its part, Caterpillar and its subsidiaries have also been tight-lipped since the lockout began.

An Electro-Motive spokesperson refused a request for comment from CTVNews.ca on Saturday.

Speculation about the future of Electro-Motive's London plant intensified last October when Progress Rail opened a plant in Indiana, an action that prompted questions about whether the company was trying to relocate to the United States to take advantage of President Barack Obama's "Buy America" legislation.

"People are fed up with profit-rich foreign corporations destroying Canadian jobs, our economy and our communities," said Ontario Federation of Labour president Syd Ryan in the media release.

"For workers across the province, Caterpillar has become the poster child of the greedy one per cent," he said.

Ontario Premier Dalton Guinty has offered to provide mediation to bring both sides of the dispute to the table.

With files from CTVNews.ca's John Size

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aaron
said

everybody wants to yell at the goverment but there really is not much they can do here had cat not bought the company gm was going to shut it down and sell the tech rights at auction. i feel for the workers but they should be asking there union bosses why they were spending threr money on occupy protests instead of investing the money they were paid into buying shares in cat so that they could have a say. the same could be said of all the big private unions they had decades to invest in the companys their members worked for and then could had some reall power instead the unions sucked thre members pockets and then wasted away


Steve in Ontario
said

I could easily live on a 50% reduction in my salary if unions would not have doubled the cost of goods and services by their greed.


Fed up in Ontario!
said

I could easily live on 50% less salary of the unions hadn't doubled the cost of goods over the years with their greed!


Alyx Crawford
said

@Central Scrutinizer... guess what? Unions no longer have the power to protect jobs at any cost. Ask the workers at St Mary's Paper in the Sault, or Ford in St Thomas, or Levi Strauss anywhere in North America.


Sam C
said

"Workers together will never be defeated." Talk about being stuck in the past! This isn't the 1940s. Sometimes workers sticking together will drag their employer into bankruptcy. I suspect there is room for compromise on the part of BOTH sides of this dispute.


Your Corporate Government has Your Best Interests!
said

Don't worry struggling Canadians...your government elites and its corporate masters are working hard to ensure you a fabulous future "Made in China"!


Phil from Gan
said

Watch for more of these in the months and years to come. With his stance on Air Canada and Canada Post, Harper has sent a clear message to big business that he was out to weaken unions. Big corporations have heard.Nice going Stevey.


Bumcrack USA
said

What are you going to do about this Harper?you gave this company generous tax cuts... al the while telling us it would create jobs... Now, even if this company turns a hefty profit, it asks its workers to take a 50% pay cut. The taxpayers pay for the tax cuts and the taxpayers lose the jobs. And what do you Harper? You won't comment. How convenient and surprising. ---This is union busting, sanctioned by their friends the Reformers.


why OSSTF
said

i watched the protest today in London and listened to the speechs.....quite the sight. People around me were questioning why highly paid union workers and their ilk were acting like they were a victum????The teachers union was there..OSSTF...how THEY have the nerve to protest is a question everyone had. They are in the top 25% pay bracket....gtd pension and only work 10 months...THIS is the problem with unions...they members become out of touch with mainstream Canadians...un educated maufacturing jobs are gone.....this adjustment to real wages for real worth is about time....CUPE, CAW, OSSTF etc etc....your time is almost up for comfy barganing with employers...they can shut the door and move to where people will be glad for a job, excel in their workplace for promotion and earn the raise..not blackmailed for it....


ben
said

They are making record profits. They should not be cutting their wages in half. Maybe a fair way of going abut it is keeping their wages the same and not cutting them.


Sanity please
said

Reality is that the facility and the jobs will survive if it is competitive. If it takes a 50% wage cut to do that then I suggest this is all a waste of time and the plant will close. Canadian workers have one of the highest standards of living anywhere - but also a huge sense of entitlement. Better start adjusting now as the so called "Good Jobs" will only exist if the $ they produce match the $ they make. Its simple economics - not emotional claptrap


Robert
said

Wal mart and McDonalds is hiring. Who ever could imagine companies could pay these huge wages and let the union dudes sit in offices and do zip. Bring on the lower wages. Caio to the Unions.


Alan
said

Again I say where was the union a year ago when the company was pouring money into a new assembly plant in Indiana. That is when they should have been acting and involving the government ant not waiting until their contract was up. At the end of the day it will be about which plant is cheaper to operate so it really doesn't matter what Ryan or Lewenza do methinks this plant is on borrowed time.


Lie to me once
said

Another example of unrealistic unions putting their members out of work while still stealing their money.Another example of the corporate greed at work doing only whats good for their CEO and shareholderAnother example of the government sitting back doing nothing to stop the erosion of jobs in this country through unfair union busting practicesAnother example of the news media not telling us the whole truth,nothing but the truth,Ah what the hell the world is coming to an end this year so really what difference is going to make?


George V.
said

The workers now have a choice standing strong against the company and have no jobs., or taking the company's offer and hope to improve on it some future date. Than again they can continue to work for the company by becoming American citizens as they probably won't be in operation north of the border. What can the politicians do, the company has the power to do what ever is in their best interest, It probably is a take it or leave it situation


Bob,Calgary,Alberta
said

@Bill On the other side of the coin I am retired and don't even get the 2-3% per year that your union buds get. I depend on dividends and interest from "profitable" corporations to pay my bills so I support companies that do not constantly give in to union demands that are out of sync with the ability of the company to make profits to sustain payouts to their shareholders. There is always two sides to every story but unfortunately big union leaders only listen to their side.


Bill
said

What do you think Cat would say if the union went into negotiations asking for 50 percent increases !!!Unions are lucky to get 2 to 3 percent increases every 3 yrs while corporations and Management are seeing there profits double or even triple every year but continuosly ask workers to work twice as hard for half the money !!!


Globalization=Code 4
said

Emerging Markets/Globalization amounts to no better than what colonial America did to African slaves a hundred and a few years ago except the desperate masses "Made in China" get some "peanut" wages while world corporations high 5 themselves for being such "do-gooders" as the CEO is paid a big multi-million dollar bonus and the company is a pig in mud rich. Pretending that this is anything but exploitation is like peeing on my leg and telling me it's raining. The jigs up and people are onto it even when they peruse the shelves at ChinaMart knowing the crap they buy won't last before it'll have to be replaced again. Buy China..buy 2! . .


Steve G
said

Corporations and their Conservative lap dogs have done a good job of convincing many Canadians that workers are the problem. The working clas (whether unionized/non-unionized/private sector/public sector) are not the problem. Corporate greed is.


haggis
said

Hey Central Scrutinizer, look at it this way, if you get that 55% pay cut you will be paid like a normal Canadian, not a spoiled Union Rat. The unions have brainwashed and spoiled you for so long, its about time these companies stand up. In the end you can take it and be glad you have a job, or watch the company move to Mexica and you then will be crying you dont have a job. Think about it. Oh and yes I do work a good job without a union.


testy
said

Harper's corporate tax cuts at work. Our PM should be made to come out an explain why this company took such action, when it received generous tax cuts from the Harper(tm) Regime and has been making record profits. Harper owes us that much. After all, he promised these measures would have the complete opposite results when he put us in HUGE debt to alleviate the "suffering" of his corporate friends.


Joan in real World
said

Unions are here to protect workers, to give them collective power to hold their own against big powerful corporate machines -- especially in these times of unbriddled corporate greed. That is their raison d'être. Imagine how many more workers would get their paycheck cut in half arbitrarily if they weren't unionized. --- It is always heartbreaking to see ordinary individuals thrash the very same institutions that were set up to prect them. But then again, when the axe came into the forest, a tree said "Look, the handle is one of us".


john MacPriest
said

Its just part of the 'giant sucking sound" that Ross Perot was talking about. Once all the middle class jobs are gone, then watch what happens to the social progams here. Ask youreslf what would happen if your employer asked you to take a 50% pay cut. Could you live? These people are in fact that; People. The ones who blame the unions, well they didn't just start making that kind of money. This plant has been there for a very long time, back when GM owned it. But remember, it all comes back to no jobs= a depressed economy. Wait for it


Troubadour
said

Record profits for the company, corporate tax cuts courtesy of Harper (which we will be paying for, for a long long time) and still they demand 50% pay cuts. With a reform government in power that sanctions - even facilitates - corporate greed, more and more companies are going to feel embolden to follow suit. Won't be long before we look like our neighbours to the South. Rich people, poor people and no middle class.


MB Union guy
said

I don’t see the CEO or upper management of this company taking a pay cuts. This is called union busting. They give the union an unreasonable offer and locked them out very different then a strike. I work for a provincial crown Corp and make less then $35,000 per year. In our last bargaining we got a 2.75% increase over 3 years because they said that money was tight because of the economy. But Head office management and staff took and average of 9% and the lowest paid person who works at HO makes $72,000 per year and they got a 13% increase last year. The highest increase was 19% and the lowest was 4% but that guy already makes $160,000 so he only got a small $7,000 raise. Next time we might go on strike if they pull the same B.S. and lie to us again.


allan
said

Replace them with non-union workers, who will actually will have a better work ethic and appreciate a good paying job. Unions, I hope , are finished


The Central Scrutinizer
said

Hey union haters. Guess what. Because you hate unions so much, you will have no protection at all when your employer decides to shove a 55% cut in wages down your throat. I guess that will be 'just business', eh? Of course, you still have the benefit of the labor laws that the unions gave all of us.


The Central Scrutinizer
said

That's the thing about the rat race...even if you win, you're still a rat.


The Central Scrutinizer
said

I wonder how many of you union haters realize that you have been sucked in by corporate brainwashing? Today's propaganda producers are masters at psychological manipulation.Consider this, if you are still able to think for yourselves:Unions arose originally because of gross exploitation of the common man, bad enough that workers werre willing to risk beatings & even death to organize. The root cause of this exploitation was the lust for profit; to get as much as possible for the very least.Can you deny this?The 'modern business paradigmn' is the maximization of profit, at any cost.Can you deny this?Now tell me that unions have outlived their usefulness.Or modern 'free market economy' has one purpose & one purpose only...to allow a select class to live in luxury on the efforts of others.This has never changed. What has changed is that now these select few toss out a coupl;e of crumbs, in the form of extremely small chances to join them. By playing on human greed, they have managed not only to disguise their robber baron ways, but have managed to convince a great many people that this is natural & true, something to be defended.While you all struggle to 'get ahead', the select few are laughing at you & thanking their lucky stars that they weren't that stupid, & that they were smart enough to get all of you to do it for them. This union BS is nothing but another distraction to keep you from noticing.


stop the greed
said

I was just at the rally. Over 15000 people there.It was great to be apart of it. This is not about union or not union.It is about the corporations forcing out the tax payers from every day jobs to pay lower saleries or hourly wage just to line the their pockets. We will not be able to sustain cities or any way of living if we do not stand up. All of Canada will take this hit and it is just starting with the middle class. There will be little to no taxes to pay for anything. Because we will not have it to pay.My husband has lost three jobs in the last year downsized TD, Bell, Ford. He went to school to be a CA accountant.He is not unskilled but still can not find a job. So wake up and smell the coffee no you won't be able to by one, we can't.


Bob,Calgary,Alberta
said

It seems to me that the big industrial unions have to become more proactive and realistic in a world where manufacturing plants can be located almost anywhere. Demanding that the government force companies to stay in one place and pay wages that are not competitive to please people like Lewenza and Ryan is unrealistic. In my 40 year working career I witnessed time and time again unions making unrealistic demands, intimidating workers to slow down and not work hard, featherbedding so 5 workers are needed to do the work of 2, demanding workers with long seniority get promoted before their more productive compatriots,defending unions members who steal from the company and just generally not realizing that the company is their livlihood. Union leaders have to become much more business educated and learn to work with the company to generate profits as well as higher wages. Unions need new leaders not old farts like Lewenza and Ryan who are mired in the old "us versus them" union mentality. It is too bad that the situation at CAT has come to this but I suspect the EMD plant is basically dead in the water while CAT explores more profitable locations for it's facilities.


Fred Green, London Middlesex
said

To Hard working Joe Public: What exactly do you think you will inspect if the compney goes to the US? Maybe you could move to China and be an inspector for $0.06/hour. Maybe you should think about the chain reaction here......I do not blame the US for trying to pull in more manufacturing, Canada needs to do the same. For every person employed in Canada currently....consider what will happen if Walmart (big box stores) start manufacturing and producing in your sector. We need to support our own lifestyle: buy local, buy made in Canada and stand behind our Canadian workers!


Jamie
said

It's fine to say that it isn't right to cut the wage in half during a period of profitability, however, we also aren't talking about trying to maintain a living wage. $35/hour?? $72 000 a year? That's more than the average university graduate makes. That's more than the average wage of $46 000, and WAY more than a "living" wage. Someone said that the unions refuse to ever give back without a fight because they may never get the (ridiculous) wage back. Well, the company is probably worried that if they don't try and get back to a reasonable wage for the work, they will never get down if the market turns south. The Union is fighting for high wage, the company is fighting for low wage. Huh... I guess the two sides are more alike than they realize. The other question I have is, why when Air Canada was trying to negotiate, and they brought up profit losses, Sid the Snake said, "Our members shouldn't suffer because the company isn't making money", yet now the hypocrite is saying, "We deserve to take part in the profits". Make up your mind, either you get paid based on profits, or you don't. That's why most don't side with the union.


Mike
said

Unions were not originally formed to protect "brothers" who sleep 4 hrs of an 8 hr shift and brag about it, nor the guy who knows he will be called in later and receive 4 hrs pay for 10 minutes work for something he could have prevented had he stayed 10 minutes longer at end of shift. How about sabotage at work site and union decided to spend members money 2x to get him his job back ? Been there, seen it with my own eyes so don't tell me it isn't happening. There is not one union member who can honestly say they haven't seen an example of a wasted wage(s) in their workplace, unless they have blinders on all day. Be sure to ask your union president what he is collecting for wages while you are all standing out in the cold as well.


Redneck Albertan
said

First of all, I feel terrible for the workers and those people and businesses who depend on this plant for their livelihoods. However, the decision is Caterpillar's alone to make. Move on and find something else. It's how the world works.


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

@ DL in Kingston: Your wayward argument is a farce of political logic that actually promotes the economic notion that our federal government should have (and should be doing) MORE in the way of corporate tax incentives for Caterpillar, in order to keep Electro-Motive open. What do you want our evil Conservative PM to do? Order the company to reopen its doors, and reinstate the workers' compensation? (Sure. Sounds good.) Perhaps the Ontario government could "invest" in (read: subsidize) Electro-Motive, and secure all the jobs for their usual pay, forever! (Sure. Sounds good.) Kindly grow up. The "big picture" that you claim to have special sight of isn't reality-based. Thanks.


mikkey
said

Look at Cat's history and the way they treat employee's. This is not the first time Cat has done this. And check out the profit Cat made last year. There has to be other company to purchase from. Maybe when there bottom line it really hurting they will understand that employees are assets


Realistic
said

Its time we stop subsidizing corporate greed. Get our tax dollars beck and walk away from Caterpillar. Let the pay to reopen somewhere were they can hire cheap labour, Isn't that why they ledt the USA in the first place, We don't need them, we can sell our higher priced labour in the OIL industry.


Terry 0417
said

Take care your jobs maybe at risk...


LucR Elliot Lake,ON
said

If you work regular hours and have time to spend with your family, thank a Union because labor laws are hard earned by them; if you can afford to raise your family in a comfortable fashion, thank a Union; if you have a right to a healthy and safe workplace; if you can not be wrongfully dismissed for being sick, short, fat or a minority, give a big thanks to Unions. You don't have to look back too far to see the days where due to corporate greed, workers who were the right gender or type, were made to work up to 12 hours a day, 7 days a week for peanuts, and the profits were more important than their lives. Even your PhD would not allow you to live comfortably unless you just happened to own one of the slave labor companies. So before you bash unions, think again!


ifish1
said

Seems to me that the union priced it self out of 500 jobs.


Bob T
said

CAT has already decided to close this plant . The lockout and low ball offer is merely an attempt by CAT to put the blame of the closure onto the CAW . Right to work states have been undermining other U.S. states for years , now that the dollar is at par they are doing the same to Canadian factories .


pegger
said

You losers defending this corporate greed are the ones who are out of touch with reality, or hacks writing this b.s. for the company. Hard working public jerk you are probably not even making $15 an hour and your petty jealousy is the only reason for your rant. No one would pay you to check anything because you obviously don't have half a brain.


Susan
said

The days of unions is over . Unions have done more to drive manufacturers out of Canada then any politican or corp board . Stop drinking the koolaid union leadership pours .


Actual hard worker
said

Good Work Cat, it's time people realized having a job isn't your God given right. It's a privilege afforded to you by a company that makes money. If that company isn't making enough money to pay you what you want, go find a company that will pay you you what you feel your worth. Your may find being a lazy, uneducated, whiner isn't really that marketable. Why should the government bail you out? Why should other hard working taxpayers support your dream? Why should Cat run an unprofitable business so you can have a new car? What did you do to deserve these hand-outs? Get back to work at the wage your company is offering or seek employment elsewhere.


No Surprise Here
said

Mexico = $10 dollars a day wages Union Worker Canada = $300 a day or 30 Mexican workers


DL in Kingston
said

D in L, nice to know there are others who can see the big picture. This issue affects all Canadians.For those who think this is a good idea, yowzers. Don't be so smug as to think that just because you're not unionized your company won't make cuts, as it's all about the company CEOs and their shareholders. Oh and by the way, Mr. Harper won't step in because they side with Corporations and not labor (non-union or union).The middle class started losing money when governments slowly over 30 years, started siding only with corporations rather than continue with the good relationship there was between Government, Corporations and labor (non-union or union). This is the primary issue raised by the Occupy movement - Corporate Greed. Obviously it wasn't good enough that during Spring 2011 the Harper Gov't gave all corporations a tax break-down from 18% to 11%, with no strings attached. On top of that Harper himself stood proudly at the Electro-Motive plant in London, flanked by these same workers who are now locked out, to announce this initiative. Caterpillar has always had an alternative motive to move operations to the US. Now they have that nice big $1B of corporate tax savings paid for by you and me, while the Harper Gov't stands by.Caterpillar has just pulled the wool over your eyes and it worked, as many only see this as a union issue while they pocketed $1Billion of our money. I say to Stephen Harper - step up to the plate buddy boy and you go and get our $1Billion Canadian tax dollars back from this sheister corporation!


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

Rather than regard this as either a cleverly orchestrated conspiracy or passively facilitated sign-of-the-times act against the middle class, consider that this is merely the case of a company deciding that a particular plant operating in another country is no longer commercially viable given the employed business model, imposed cost structure, domestic U.S. production alternatives, and operating incentives attached to relocation. Instead of closing the plant down -- gosh, that's never happened before in North American manufacturing history -- and putting everyone out of work, permanently, the company has devised a bottom-line socioeconomic "opportunity" for those who wish to take advantage of it. Choice: no job at all, or; markedly reduced compensation. Brutal? Yes. It's not personal, however; it's business. Unions and governments don't dictate decisions in the private sector. Never have. Never will. (Having a well-paying job isn't any type of entrenched right.) The encompassing reality isn't being served by the left-wing political drama queens and their misguided understanding of capitalism and private enterprise. Having said this, however, I sincerely wish the Electro-Motive workers the best of luck. Protesting Caterpillar's decision certainly can't hurt.


londondricky
said

Cut theses wages in half and who will be next? Who among us can afford to have thier pay cut like this? If CAT gets thier way, how long before your employer has to do the same, in order to remain "competitive". Our standard of living is what is being attacked. No government is going to bail you out. The attack is well underway, and we are losing. The only chance we have is to stand up and fight for ourselves. Once we defeat our collective apathy, we have a chance.


Ron
said

TO/ Hard working Joe,You unfortunately don't have a clue about what is actually going on here and until you make the effort to find out you should keep your uninformed opinion to yourself. These people are not unskilled. They build diesel locomotives from scratch following a set of blueprints. They do not make $75 per hour they used to make $36 and are being asked to work for $16. These types of jobs buy houses, cars, furniture. appliances, food and much more in your community. They pay taxes that support the place you live. If these types of jobs continue to disappear from our country and we all work for $12-$15 as you believe we are all worth then It wont be long before you are out of a job because no one will be able to afford what product or service your employer provides. Wake up and get your head out of your backside.


PBW
said

OK, it's fine to blame Harper . . . or is it? Obama is the one pushing Buy American. Caterpillar is following this mantra and will eventually move its Canadian manufacturing capability to the USA - where labor costs are lower. Caterpillar is not some nationalized industry answerable to Canada's government, it is a corporation owned by stockholders who want to make a profit. And don't forget, stockholders these days tend to be large institutions, including those important pension funds and RRSP funds. I have no doubt that Caterpillar is represented in many Canadian funds. Protest is fine, when the whole story is known and the protest is based on fact not gut reaction.


J.C.
said

Now the story is that the cut is 50% of lost wages and benefits. I am wondering what percent of that is benefits cuts. Wonder if that is the major thing here. Not likely the union would tell us as if benefits is the main cut they likely would not have much backing by the public. Currently chances are that they have a 100% pension covered by the company as well as medical benefit plans likely covered by the company. Is this where the 50% drop is and not the hourly wage? Are they being asked to contribute to their pension plans and medical coverage? Sure would be nice to have the true facts in this story. Sure would like to know what the company itself has to say. Can't make a judgment on only half a story that's for sure.


Fred Green, London Middlesex
said

Speaking of lazy..... in response to lazy inpestor making $15.00/hour. If it were not for union workers, you likely would have been making $6.00/hour to inspect those same vehicles. Unions keep people safe and keep standards high. I am willing to bet you are just jealous because you were not able to get a skilled union job at all. I am also willing to bet that the clothing on your scab back and the vehicle you drive were not made in our country. Try supporting our Canadian jobs and livelyhood for a change or keep your big trap shut!


Will
said

No Sympathy, period. Yet another example of unrealistic unions putting their members out of work while still stealing their money.


dualstrats
said

lol slow day at the union office i guess, need their name in print, need to look like they are doing something for the locked out employees need to justify their inflated egos and paycheques, heres a thought... some money and a job ARE BETTER then nothing at all...go back to work guys...by the way if the ndp is for the working class (where are they 101 members strong) on this glorious rally day to support these workers???


Alan
said

I read where the Muncie assembly plant with much investment is now open and Progress is also opening two more assembly plants in Brazil and Mexico. Are the horses gone and we are just talking about locking the barn here. Progress has thanked the state of Indiana for their support. Has Progress offered any comment on a commitment to stay and invest in Canada. While I have misgivings about unions, I feel badly for these workers because I think the union mgmt should have been on top of this a year ago when the Muncie assembly plant was first considered. Of course with new equipment, cheaper wages, no union it's hard to resist moving and as we unfortunately well know this kind of thing has gone on for 30 years. But now is not the time to be asking for support from the government.


Ottawa Jack
said

To Sid Ryan; Big Labour Unions will soon be a thing of the past, as people will be glad to have a job. However, to protect your labour-boss job ,I guess you have to keep mouthing-off.


Gerry
said

Keep the government out of it... the negotiations are between the workers and the company they work for.


higgy
said

Lewenza you always put down the Gov't but when you can't handle negotiating with Caterpillar you want the gov't to kiss your butt I don't think so. Maybe the union should meet Caterpillar half way instead of always thinking you should get everything you ask for, a typical union negotiating ploy, and I belong to a Union.


Mike
said

Did anyone hear Obama telling U.S. companies it's time to stop paying other countries to manufacturer what they can do on their own? He didn't mention Canada in his speech, but he didn't have to. They've put big incentives in place for companies to pull out and do it at home. US steel faced/faces, same problem, take the cut, or we leave it shut down and/or close it up. US owned companies don't care what happens over here, they've been told to worry about getting jobs back in US. Add to that , the unions have negotiated themselves out of the market again. If you want to argue that, post the jobs and pay rates in the plant, as well as all the benefits. Then let the general public decide if what they are asking is reasonable. We all like to buy the biggest, best, and as many toys as we can, but maybe it's time we all took a reality check. Do we really need to keep up with the Jones's?


Mimi2005
said

The current government is only interested in oil, and taking care of corporations. Not us workers. Good luck with that one. Catapillar will be heading states side soon I guarantee it. I'm sorry for the huge loss of jobs. Riat is no where to be seen on this one. She's not coming to get the workers back to work because it's not in the company's best interest. Too bad NDP is going through an identity crisis right now. They could have helped if they weren't in the situation they are in now. Perhaps they still can, but I don't see them running to the scene either.If the economy is so damn important why isn't it helping these workers? No one can afford to have their wages cut in half. Maybe by 5% but this is nuts. Catapillar purposely inflated their demands to make their employees take a stand and the mighty government isn't helping. Tax money comes mostly from the backs of the middle class remember? This is so unfair. The more often this happens, the less money government gets from taxpayers paycheques.


D in L
said

MASSIVE rally in London today. The biggest in history. This is not about the unions or no unions. This is not about socialism or capitalism. This is about government's facilitating - either actively - or by inaction - the transformation of a middle class that kept a consumer economy going into a slave workforce for their corporate masters. That people are asked by a profitable corporation to take a 55% cut in pay is despicable. That our politicians skulk on the sidelines trying to appear as though they still work for us is even worse. See this for what it is. It doesn't stop here - don't be naive enough to think it won't be happening to you to.


Hard working Joe Public
said

Kudos to Cat !!Lock out those lazy, underskilled CAW bums. I hope the rest of the industry puts the unions to the wall. Some tard dropping a battery in a car all day is not worth $75/hour. Besides all the jobs requiring precision or skill are now done by robots. And lastly, you know that 'plus freight and PDI' jargon used in car sales ? PDI is 'pre-delivery inspection'. That's where a mechanic who makes $15 / hour goes through and double checks the the work of the $75/hr union employees to make sure that everything was done right. I used to find all kinds of screw-ups... often critical errors. So yeah, lock em out and starve em until they lose the ego and are willing to come down off their cloud.


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