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The Royal Canadian Mint is releasing new loonies and toonies made out of steel instead of nickel and copper in an effort to cut down cost. For some businesses, though, the coins will mean an extra expense. Deborah Mensah-Bonsu reports.

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Date: Fri. Jan. 13 2012 7:04 AM ET

Steel yourself, Canada, new one-dollar and two-dollar coins are about to become the latest version of the proverbial plugged nickel.

In an effort to save taxpayers about $16 million annually, new versions of the loonie and toonie will be introduced this spring made from steel, replacing the more expensive nickel found in the current versions of the coins.

A detailed summary of the change filed by the federal government in the Canada Gazette last month says the new coins will be slightly lighter, cheaper to produce and ship, and harder to counterfeit.

They're also going to cost Canada's coin-operated industries about $40 million in recalibration costs to make vending machines recognize the new coinage, says the government.

And businesses who count their coins by weight will have to first separate the old currency from the new.

The new coinage was announced in last year's federal budget but only received final cabinet approval late last month.

The roll-out has been delayed in part because some manufacturers in the vending industry weren't ready to handle the new coins, according to Kim Lockie, the past president of Canadian Automatic Merchandising Association.

"It only delayed it, it didn't postpone it," said Lockie, a Fort MacMurray, Alta., businessman whose company has 1,200 machines that required reprogramming -- a three-month project.

"We just have to be ready as operators to be able to accept that."

Lockie, who spent last year as his industry association president dealing with the mint, said operators never like eating the cost of currency changes, but the process has been handled well by the government.

"It's going to happen anyway so if we can partner we can both come out ahead -- I can have ample leeway time to get my machines programmed," he said in an interview.

The Canada Gazette says the current coins cost about 30 cents each to produce, while Kim says he's been told the new loonies and toonies will cost between four cents and six cents apiece.

A spokesman for the Royal Canadian Mint had little so say, because a major media roll-out is planned nearer to the coins' actual release. Alex Reeves did confirm the new coins are about to go into production and should be in circulation in "early spring" -- likely late March or April.

When the new coins were first proposed, the expectation was that they would weigh exactly the same as the old versions.

Consumers likely won't notice the weight difference, but the Canada Gazette states that a truck load of the new loonies will weigh 980 kilos less than the old version, and 286 kilos less for a truck full of toonies, thus "improving fuel efficiency of transportation and reducing the carbon footprint of delivering coins to the Canadian public."

More than one billion loonies have been produced by the Royal Canadian Mint since the coin was introduced in 1987, while some 700 million toonies have been minted since 1996.

The mint produces about 30 million of each coin annually, and the government says the elimination of the nickel element will reduce nickel demand by about 539 metric tonnes a year -- just a tiny fraction of Canada's domestic output.

The current loonie is made from bronze-plated nickel, while the toonie has a ring of pure nickel around a copper alloy centre. The new coins will use the same multi-ply plated steel technology used in the penny, nickel, dime and quarter.

The change comes as nickel prices have fluctuated by as much as 1,000 per cent in recent years, according to the government, creating both supply and cost issues.


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john k ellis
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Coins have historically been made from every metal you can think of, from iron, copper, and alloys of all sorts.The steel used in the new coins will not rust due to other ingredients and not just nickel.Longevity and elegance will not be affected by the new formula.


Peter
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Light or dark chocolate?


Clansman
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I think this idea was thought up to help a sagging steel industry .The nickel industry in Canada is doing just fine and has basically been sold out to forgieners. Whoever thought up this idea did not consider the vendors of Canada who are going to loose in conversion of thier machines, but then most of these companies are owned by Americans anyway, not Canadians.....so what the hec.. go for it ! Canadians will benifiet from this change .


GMan
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When are they finally going to get rid of the penny, which costs more to produce than it is worth, and has no practical commercial value (and it actually costs retailers money to handle)?


robin hood
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Lethbian you can see by your thumbs down parents don’t like to answer questions from their kids—shut up kid!


Salt and Vinegar
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Just make them out of paper to save money.


Joe Canadian
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.........to New Math - merchants pay a 1 time hit of $40 million.....it saves $16 million/year....do some new math and figure that out over 10 years. :)


Michael in Ontario
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People, the money you carry in your pocket can be made from anything the government wants to make it from. A $2. coin made out of steel is still worth 2 bucks. The Canadian money is backed by the gold that the country has stashed away some where. I do not care if the money is made out of cardboard, wax paper or steel as long as it is excepted in places we want to spend. Why do people get so wrapped around the handle over something as silly as the Loonie and Twoonie being made of steel. Do you think a store owner cares if the Loonie you hand him for that pop is made of steel or not, NO he just wants you to spend that steel Loonie in his store!


Jim - North Saanich, BC
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Since we're now in to the age of long-life plastic currency, how about bringing back the one and two dollar bills? I'm tired of hauling around a bunch of coins after I break a five or ten dollar bill not to mention the inconvenience of handling them.


Marc
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Let's not forget the extras in it for the govt. The 16M they will save, and the appx 16M they will reap in income tax, paying the labour to reprogram all those machines, win-win for the govt there.


kenjisan
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I notice the article says nothing about where the steel will come from. In the coninued effort to save money , guess where the steel will be coming from.Should we change the name from loonie to Yaunie !


Glenn C
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Why not make them out of paper/polymer so that we don't have to carry all that change. We have all heard of how long lasting polymer is, so why not give it a try. It would be great have our paper notes back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


David from Edmonton
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It's going to cost merchants $40,000,000 in order to save the government $16,000,000. Once again we see how useless our government can be.


fed up
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Were replacing the Harper gov. I did not know about this. Please if we are thank God, I will be celebrating today thank God you told me this.


joe
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some comments on here who still uses real money i do and lots of us still do cash is still king and dont have to worry about card fraud


Steve-O
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For truly Canadian coinage I propose the loonie and twonie (yes, that's how it really should be spelled) to be made out of bacon and maple syrup. It should harden up nicely to work in vending machines. Too many of these coins in your pocket? They'll make a tasty snack, too! (Just wash them first, re: Contagion)


JJ Joseph
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While we're at it, lets get rid of the penny & the nickel (not just the penny). They're both long overdue for retirement.


The New Math
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Save 16 million...cost merchnats 40 million...seems like we could have saved more by doing nothing...


mackat
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Going to plan.....then to get rid of it altogether,
put micro chips under our skin connected to the bank,government, police.....one step at a time.


MiggsVer2.0
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Steel rusts. It won't save any money at all due to the decreased life expectancy of the coins. And since when is steel light weight? Another case of the government not leaving well-enough alone.


Michael from the real world
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I still think it should be called the doub-loonie!


Leo Rozema
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Make it from recycled metal only and I am in favour. Many people use cash and it is preferred by most stores. It is like money in the bank at no risk.Leo


Robert B
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They save 16 million and it costs 40 million to convert vending machines ... guess who will be paying for that!!!! Well it won't affect me as I seldom use those junk vending machines.


Eric O'Connell
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To Dartmouth Bobby: various things may cause a delay , but a postponement will result from the action of a person. I hope this helps.


Ed in Alberta
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Jeepers, if they want to save transportation costs by making them lighter... why not make them out of PAPER!?


Lorne
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When you think about it, $16 million is not a huge savings.All that has to be done is to cut back on MPs travel expenses along with the general of the armed forces travel expenses. Voila!! Savings in excess of $16 million.That would be too simple a solution.


Rob
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Will it be Canadian steel or will it come from China?


Herbert H. Ind
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The surprising part of this article to me is that people still actually use coin and phsyical money to make purchases. It's like they're all stuck in the pre-90s or something.


Old Ted
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Just had my debit card compromised. I'm done with electronic banking, debit cards and credit cards for now. I'll probably save money in the long run using cash. No money, no buy.


Lethbian
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Mommy - what's a coin ?


Prof. Pye Chartt
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Loonies and toonies are a medieval pain in the rear. We should be utilizing the process now employed for the making $100 bills, and further its process cost efficiency. Big coins are an annoyance. (The production of the penny is stupid at this point, given its modern value and practical worth. Heck, the disappearance of the nickel would get a cheer from me, too.)


James M
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Any businesses that need to weigh their money to count it - can afford to upgrade the machinery. Lol.


AngryDanny
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why not make it interesting for the collectors????So this year it's steel......next year will be graphite....the year after wood by 2015 you're in to the less practical types as porcelain cardboard and playdough....but hey! WHY NOT!!!!!GIV'ER


me
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Coins used to be precious metals to 'back' the face value of the coin. The psychology of this is tangible evidence of the devaluation of money. Soon all transactions will be electronic anyway, so they can be monitored and it will be accepted by the public because it will cut costs. However it WILL cost us processing fees for each transaction. And of course by being able to monitor and control electronic transactions, it's easy to disable an 'undesirable' person's ability to do any transactions at all......


CYL
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another stupid idea, decision to be made without public opinion. I hate those coins whether it bronze/silver/gold/nickel/plated or sand, THEY ARE TOO HEAVY. I prefer the paper. Maybe make the notes smaller (half size). As for savings, it's saving for them but costly for others, and as for aches/pains from carrying the coins, well I guess pain killers are cheaper ?


Dartmouth Bobby
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"It only delayed it, it didn't postpone it," said LockieUmmm...the difference being...


roy
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Maybe they should let the counterfriters make them they seem to be able to put money into circulation pretty cheap,just joking this is a great idea Mr Harper you are saving us tons of money


Mary
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Wow, more devaluation of our currency.... backed by nothing! So can I buy a steel company and mint my own washers too? Keep playing with your fiat kids!


Alan
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Two thoughts just to tidy up. Now that the coins are steel we may as well punch a hole in the centre and simply produce washers which means that we could outsource the manufacturing to Steeltown (Hamilton) where I am sure there are plenty of washer producers. Oh money on a chain. how retro.Don't you just love these topics but in reality Sherry you are right, a coin used to have a value as we see by the travelling caravans looking for old silver coins.


OttawaTech
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People... remember what money is... it's an standard method for exchanging goods and services. It could be pebbles or shells. It makes no difference at all as to what it is made of. It's what it represents that is important.I for one would not miss cash at all. Trillions of dollars are made, moved, counted, etc. without a single piece of hard currency changing hands. And it still has a standard value. At the end of the week, my employer puts a sum of "money" into my account and I buy goods and services with that electronic "money". No big deal.


steve in Welland
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a buck is a buck no matter what it looks like


Phil Ottawa
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The coins shouldn't rust but even if they did, damaged coins and bills get removed from circulation and replaced all the time.


Sherry
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Nice comments by the other folks BTW ... I loved the "it should be filled with chocolate" one. Okay, so now it's steel ... hmmm at least when it was nickel it has some value. Folks, you are so forgetful that money would be backed by something of value in the past; like 1967 and back. A penny was copper, a nickle was nickle, a dime was 1/10th of an ounce of silver, a dollar was one ounce of silver. You have all been duped by this fiat (backed by a promise) money and now its pretty much worthless steel. One day you all will see the real value of silver and gold and wonder why you did not buy some.In 1920 one could but a gallon of gas for a dime (1/10th of an ounce of silver). Today in the US you can still buy a gallon of gas for 1/10th an ounce of silver. Silver is around 31$ today. 1/10th is $3.10.Don't forget what real money is folks ... okay, I have to get back to work to make more fake money.


Eric
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People still use physical money?


John F
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So basically our money is 100% artificial now. Wasn't gold worth something because it has value? We are putting value in steel and paper......


Bob Anderson
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Why do we still have the penny?Minting costs could be saved if it was eliminated. Items could still be priced to the penny and purchases could be rounded up or down to the nickel so this would have no effect on the cost of items to the consumer over the long run.


joe canada
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Why not come back with bills? We have the new fancy $100 why not ones and twos? Making them out of steel pretty much means they are worthless in the future. What is worth more an old nickel with valuable materials or just a round piece of steel? Put a hole in the center and you have decorative washers.


Alan
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We are lucky in Canada where the government and the mint can make these decisions.Pity the US with the tons of dollar coins that have been produced that apparently will never hit circulation because of the fierce lobby groups and a split perception by the public even though there are huge savings.


yoggii
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...so, does that mean our money will rust?


John
said
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If they want to save 16 million, just eliminate 50% of the useless mps


George V.
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When the value of a coin moves up significantly close to the cost that it cost to produce it is time to change the coin. To change all equipment vending machines to take the new coin should be re-embursed to those who have the additional costs. These changes were not made in their interest or doing.


hungry for the new coins
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@tomsI disagree. I much prefer a creamy caramel centre.


Doug
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Seems like a good idea. I can't think of a compelling reason why it wouldn't be. If it saves money then it saves money. This country has had a long love affair with nickel but them's the breaks.


toms
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i think they should fill it with chocolate


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