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Lisa LaFlamme interviews Jack Layton on budget day, March 2011. NDP Leader Jack Layton smiles during an interview with Lisa LaFlamme on budget day 2011. Layton, the beloved NDP leader, died Monday after a battle with cancer. Lisa LaFlamme interviews Jack Layton on budget day, March 2011. Lisa LaFlamme

My last interview with Jack Layton

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On budget day 2011, NDP Leader Jack Layton speaks with Lisa LaFlamme about how he is battling cancer and when health has to take priority over politics.

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Lisa LaFlamme interviews Jack Layton on budget day, March 2011. NDP Leader Jack Layton smiles during an interview with Lisa LaFlamme on budget day 2011. Layton, the beloved NDP leader, died Monday after a battle with cancer. Lisa LaFlamme interviews Jack Layton on budget day, March 2011. Lisa LaFlamme

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Lisa LaFlamme interviews Jack Layton on budget day, March 2011.

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Date: Mon. Aug. 22 2011 9:34 PM ET

Jack Layton was on the phone to his mum when I walked in his Parliament Hill office.

"Yes Mum, I ate some soup. I slept well."

It was March, on the day of the federal budget. I listened to his side of a daily 'how ya doing' conversation between mother and son.

"I'm about to do an interview with Lisa LaFlamme," he said then put his hand over the receiver to say: "My mum says hello."

I was touched at how, on such an important day and under such obvious, physical frailty, he was eager to tell me how his mother was a news junkie and how the whole family had cheered when they heard I would move into Lloyd Robertson's chair in September.

Was this the politician in him talking -- just trying to get me on his good side?

No. This was Jack. So natural and comfortable in his skin, not pretentious or self-absorbed. Just Jack. The guy you could sit with for hours and discuss everything from Tommy Douglas to Justin Bieber. Whether he was talking with someone who supported his politics or not, he loved a good debate, loved to be challenged, and loved his country.

So professional but so personal. That was Jack, and his office walls screamed it. They were covered with photos of family, his own famous father, and more photos of world leaders he had met.

He was happy to give me the who's who of his wall of fame, leaning on his cane, unwilling to give in to the pain that he must have been feeling. Twice I saw him wince as he settled into a chair for the interview.

We discussed the politics of the day, the importance of the budget vote and his own dream for a better country. What struck me though, was our discussion about his own health. He was reluctant to reveal too much about his prognosis, unwilling to let it cloud the public's perception of his ability to lead his party into another election, should one be necessary.

He admitted he was frustrated by the limitations cancer had so harshly imposed on him but determined not to let it influence his decision on whether he should support the budget. He would do, he said, what was right for the country.

A 15-minute interview turned into an hour and he was now late for the budget lockup. He wouldn't reveal which way he was leaning but it was pretty clear he was trying to convince me that if anyone thought his health made him a weaker opponent, they were grossly underestimating his strength of mind.

Jack's decision that day, ultimately led to an election call. I watched him on the campaign trail, cane in hand, or at times, waving in the air, and constantly asked myself where he found the strength. The answer, I think -- his family and his passion. Not medicine enough for the long-term but enough to see this man reach an historic height: Leader of the Official Opposition.

Jack Layton was an inspiration to anyone suffering a debilitating disease, a daily reminder that it's not over 'til it's over, that even when the body falters, the mind is still vibrant and there is still a lot to say, change, and sing about. It's a message even (maybe especially) the healthy should hear and heed also.

It is heartbreaking that Jack Layton achieved the greatest accomplishment, not just in his life, but NDP history and was only allowed to taste it ever so briefly. Never allowed to savour the victory or perhaps even unpack his boxes in Stornoway.

I've thought about that interview a lot over the last few months -- it never aired until today. Canada has lost a leader and a genuinely good man.

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Arthur Benilous
said

Today we lost a true patriot, a Canadian all the way. Jack Layton was part of a rare breed - an honest politician who cared deeply about the people he served and about his country. I may not have shared all his political views but many of his ideas were bang on and he meant every word he said along the way. How sad that this terrific human being who dedicated his life to trying to make a difference in this world, is taken away from us so quickly and so young. Lastly, what a testimonial to this man who penned such unselfish heartwarming thoughts just days before his death, encouraging us as he always did to do better, to be involved and to stand up for what we believe in. My deepest sympathies to his wife, children, family, friends and all Canadians who like I mourn the loss of this very special human being. Rest in Peace Jack........


Monica, Markham
said

Jack Layton is a patriot and a leader. Though I did not vote for him, I do believe he is the person who can lead an effective opposition party. I would have voted him for Prime Minister if he runs. His passing is a huge loss to our country. On a side note - there is one comment about the short time between Jack's diagnosis and his death. Quite a number of my friends died of cancer so I had the feeling that Jack was at the terminal stage when he made his last public announcement. My father passed away 2 weeks after he was diagnosed of cancer. Cancer is a really scarey diseases.


Scott Burlington
said

RIP Jack. State funeral for sure


Mary
said

Lisa, you beautifully summed up Jack Layton. He was the one Canadian politician I felt was truly honest and trustworthy. Canada has lost a great statesman. My condolences go out to his family. I lost a friend just a week ago who was only diagnosed with cancer in March of this year. As Jack said we must savour every moment of our journey and that of our loved ones.


George
said

Easily one of the best, most poignant pieces of writing I have seen at ANY news outlet in a long, long time.

Well, written; well said.

Canada has had its share of "dark days" in its politics, but the loss of Jack Layton and everything he brought to the job he loved cannot be understated.




LoraB
said

For Jack Layton, our Federal NDP Leader Cancer stole our hero Jack! God gets all his aces back. Queens can't be beat! Kings have a seat! Jack showed us love is all we lack! Love and awe, Lora B


waltertruenorth
said

I've given my vote to his party last election, actually I vote blue. It's my first time giving my vote to Jack. Rest in peace, I express my most sincere condolences on the loss of Jack to his family and friends.


Pam
said

I am not a huge political junkie, but was so very proud of Jack and the NDP for what they accomplished this past election......I have never believed in the political system but must say I felt more confident once I got to know Jack Layton and his visions......I was truly saddened to hear of Jack's passing and pass on my condolences to his partner, his family, his friends, to parliament and to all Canadians that feel the same way that I do........You will truly be missed Mr. Layton!!!


sue
said

I disagree with you Peter.I know of someone who passed away 3 weeks of diagnosis.Jack Laytons health isn't anyones business but his own and his family and friends.


Brian in Alberta
said

A sad day for Canada. Even though I never voted for Jack's party, I still had great respect for the man and his work ethics. Here was a man so passionate about our country he worked his way from the guy sitting way down the line to 2nd in command and with his passing, I am glad to see him achieve that goal. I do not ever see a person ever to step into Canadian politics that would compare to Jack Layton. We have lost one of the greatest ever. Jack just had something about the way he carried himself and spoke that was so unique. It was his passion, crisma that will never be forgotten. RIP JACK, you did one hell of a good job throughout your career.


Dave
said

It's amazing the things this man was doing while battling cancer like he was yet I can't even find the motivation to read a book at times. He's truly an inpiring person we need to take example from him. Rest in Peace, Jack.


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

There is, indeed, something dramatically tragic about a person reaching a pinnacle of achievement in their chosen field, only to die immediately thereafter. It marks the final act of a political play that, despite its sad ending, shines a bright, positive light of appreciation on the individual's splendid life and public impact. Your life, Jack, was quite a story. Bravo. The entire audience of Canadians is on its feet, applauding.


Brad from Cambridge
said

God speed Jack. You did your country and the human race proud.


Peter K
said

Lisa was right to ask questions about his treatment . I think all of the party leaders should have to disclose thier health records once a year like in the states . Does any one believe that his second bout of cancer sneaked up and killed him in a little over a month ? I think his hip injury was really the start of his second bout and that he just had the turmor removed and decided to have the turmur removed and to for go treatment because it would have interffered with the election . If that was the case then people should have told .


blueman
said

Go with God


Agnes Wood
said

I am conservative but your right Lisa Canada lost a special person one of us 2 years ago i lost my son and mother to cancer,and my prayers are definitely with Jacks loved ones may God bless them in their time of sorrow.


Jeremy
said

My God, well said. Everything was spot on Lisa. I am jealous you got to meet him, he really seemed like a genuine fella.


Elyzabeth
said

It's true that Jack experienced much discomfort in the past several months. This is a reminder how serious prostate cancer is. I wonder when Lloyd Roberston's last interview with Jack Layton was? Regardless, it is time to turn the page, the NDP will continue to flourish under new leadership.


JS
said

Poignant article, Lisa.


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