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Should police be able to crack into your BlackBerry?

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Police continue to deal with rioters in London for another day. Meanwhile, remnants of burned out cars and buildings are being cleaned up by volunteers and officials. People pose for photos in front of a burning car set alight during the second night of civil disturbances in central Birmingham, England, Tuesday, Aug. 9, 2011. (AP Photo/Tim Hales) West Midlands Police appeal to the public by displaying pictures of suspected rioters outside the Bull Ring shopping centre in Birmingham England Friday Aug. 12, 2011.  (AP / Rui Vieira) Cars and buildings are set ablaze as riots in London turn violent. Metropolitan Police officers prepare to carry out a raid on a property on the Churchill Gardens estate in Pimlico, London during an operation where police hope to recover property stolen during the recent disturbances in the capital Thursday, Aug. 11, 2011.

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Cracking into Blackberries should follow the same rules as a landline wiretap. Those checks and balances have worked for quite some time, and would apply well to smartphones.

Chris in Kingston

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Date: Sat. Aug. 13 2011 9:27 PM ET

How did British rioters manage to loot and ransack their neighbourhoods for four straight nights? Police claim the culprits used smartphones to quickly organize and avoid getting caught, sparking questions of how much leeway law enforcement has to crack into private communication devices.

The issue comes after Canada's Research In Motion came under fire for reports of BlackBerry-toting rioters using the free and secure messaging service, or BBM, as a way to organize their criminal activity.

A statement released by RIM on Thursday stated that the Waterloo, Ont.-based company had "engaged with the authorities to assist" in any way it can and that it would "co-operate fully" with Britain's Home Office and U.K police forces.

That assurance of full co-operation may cause concern regarding privacy infringement and personal security, especially if RIM gives U.K. authorities unprecedented access to data.

In Canada, because of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, law enforcement would have to obtain judicial permission and warrants to access text messages from private cellphones, said University of British Columbia professor, Christopher Schneider.

"This is going to be problematic for police because of the immediacy of social media. By the time they go and get the warrant, the riots have been going on for days," Schneider told CTVNews.ca.

Because social media and cellular communication have changed how riots are formed and how they spread, police are finding it increasingly difficult to control disturbances.

"All of a sudden people are moving and are fluid. They can escape police easier," he said, adding that tools like BBM, text messaging, Twitter and Facebook facilitate and perhaps can even encourage a riot.

Britain's riots began on Saturday, Aug. 6 when a peaceful protest over a police shooting in London's Tottenham neighbourhood turned violent.

That conflict led to a series of riots in London and several other cities that police had trouble containing.

Groups of masked or hooded rioters swung baseball bats, burned buildings and vehicles and used their cellphones, specifically their BlackBerrys, to communicate and co-ordinate this violence.

Security versus privacy

But while smartphones may have played an important role in the riots, the phones didn't start the violence.

"It's just business as usual. People are arranging to meet in the same way they normally do using their BlackBerry," David Murakami Wood, a surveillance studies professor at Queen's University in Kingston, Ont. told CTVNew.ca.

"Except this time instead of meeting just to go out and do whatever they normally do, they were arranging to go looting."

Murakami Wood said if RIM is forced to reduce their security and co-operate with authorities too much, they will lose what makes them distinctive in the marketplace.

"Some MPs in Britain have talked about trying to close down services like BBM when things like this happen – that to me is a ludicrous overreaction," he said.

"It's like blaming the postal service for carrying threatening messages. You don't close down the postal service if people have written to each other about committing a crime, it's no different that that."

RIM has been vague on public details regarding government access to user data in the past. The company was recently faced with threats from Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates to cut off BlackBerry services unless concessions on access were made.

Schneider said he thinks police are going to find a way to temporarily suspend communication and information devices by targeting an area, effectively shutting down everyone's phones in a certain radius.

"Maybe in a police car they'd have some sort of device. They'd flip a switch and maybe in a couple hundred yards it would wipe out cellphone communication," he said.

Social Consequences

Such a blanket curtailment of cellphone communication has far-reaching consequences on privacy and even how a riot might escalate.

Schneider said disabling communication could anger the rioters further but it would enable the police to contain and "squash" the disturbance quicker.

As for privacy and access rights, Schneider said he suspects ordinary citizens would understand the need for such a drastic option in the face of violence and public disturbances.

"I think those people, the majority of people are law-abiding citizens, would be less inclined to be angered by the police incorporating this sort of strategy into their policing tactics."

But Murakami Wood isn't as sure.

"Is it really right that everybody's mobile phone service gets trolled because a few people have been using this to organize looting?" he asked.

Schneider said the criminal code may also be amended to include social media legislation to expedite judicial permissions to obtain such data and enforce a communication lock-down.

Video deterrence

Even though Britain has the highest concentration of closed-circuit television (CCTV) cameras, rioters and looters were not deterred by the surveillance, said Murakami Wood, and that doesn't surprise him.

"There's absolutely no relationship between the two things," he said. "Some of the biggest riots were in the areas with the densest amount of CCTV cameras."

He said the cameras may be more useful in detecting the people responsible for the crimes through police posting photos that were captured by CCTV online.

"They're banking on people being so angry about the rioting that they will give in people to the police they know were involved," he said.

Along with posting the photos on Internet sites, British police are reportedly using facial recognition software, which treats the human face like a grid, measuring the distance between a person's nose, lips, ears and eyes, to spot suspects.

But, in order for the software to be successful the photos must be good quality and the person must already have a criminal record.

"Misrecognition and misidentification is going to be a big issue here," Murakami Wood said. "Recognition both by people and by software is equally difficult."

With files from The Canadian Press

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Retired 2005
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I'm all for cops being able to access anything you are stupid enough to put on a Blackberry or any other cell phone. This is one way that we can find the people that do things like London and other riots in the world. Let the public decide if the news is worth the law stepping in or not. If you have nothing to hide why are you so worried about what they will find.


Righto B Human
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Regardless of what happens, the police should not be allowed access to your mobile device at any time without proper notice, such as a warrant or enough reasonable evidence to support such claims. Anything less would be an invasion of privacy, violating just about any contract you may have with the company, and I'm sure there is some kind of infraction on the police's part as well


TDB
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If guilty of any kind of cyber crime I say "YES"


law abiding citizen
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If you have nothing to hide.....


Dear Dalton
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G8-G20 in Toronto. Dalton McGuinty created a false law that said 8 feet from the fence. If something so simple can be falsely instituted by politicians then I DO NOT EVER TRUST THE POLICE - NEVER!!! No means no! You break into my sanctuary you'd better have your guns loaded because you will be treated like a home invader. Yes to our civil liberties at all cost. If you want to prevent this type of action/crime in Canada then get to the root cause! Stop putting on bandages by taking away my LIBERTY!!!


Tyranny and Fascism Next Stop.
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Yes, it's not called tyranny or fascism. The police, whom we trust (not) should be sanctioned to look at your texts and have full authority to invade your home in the middle of the night and taser you if you resist arrest. Shoot first and ask questions later. If anyone makes any negative text innuendos about their slave masters they should pay the ultimate price - a gentle and deserved beating. It's not what your country can do for you, it's what you can do for your country!


Trouble Brewing
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Those who give up essential liberties for temporary security do not deserve both and shall have neither.


ed in edmonton
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While i believe the cops and goverment should be able to tell the company to shut down the BBM or other instant messager functions, they should not be allowed access without a warrant to see what was sent. The charter of rights and freedoms allows us to have some privacy.


SL
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The hacking of smart phones is a daily event, whether directly or via a third party application, there is no privacy period. As a law abiding person, I would support access to information by the police.Order takes precedence over privacy.In the process if police find a hacker arrest them or shut them down.Crime is crime.


My_2_cents
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There are two factors here. The police have the ability to gain access to most data on someone's phone already when they get a search warrant. The problems are in how long it takes to get a warrant, and then how long it takes to access the info when they have a warrant. Phone service providers should be required to instantly produce the information when a warrant is provided. Then its just up to the government and the courts to make the process of getting warrants faster.Police can even call the phone providers, tell them the name of the user, phone number etc so all the info can be prepared. When the service provider sees a warrant they can instantly email the info to the police.What the police are asking for here is unfortunately unlimited access to all data, and then they'll decide what is important and isn't. That isn't the way our society works, and it shouldn't. Police need to show that they have a reasonable suspicion of criminal activity first. The process for getting warrants needs to be streamlined though.


GLENN C
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In the case of an emergency, YES!


peter in mb
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@Jenny… If you don’t want people to see the perfectly legal embarrassing things, shameful things, things you would rather just keep private like naked photos of boyfriends/girlfriends then don’t put them on your iphone or face Book. It’s not rocket science, anything you put on social media other people can see. So people should use more common sense when using social media. However it seems that common sense is far from common these days.


peter in mb
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Not only are these punks using Twitter or Face book to coordinate their illegal activates they also brag about it in their Twitter or Face book. if you’re stupid enough to do that then you deserve to get caught. It the same thing as 3 people walking into a bank and openly discussing how they are going to rob it the next day in front of the security guard. However no one said criminals were smart. And besides were would be having this discussion if people simply behaved themselves and didn’t do this things. I agree with (marc) “You only want your privacy when you do something illegal.” And if you are doing something illegal then the police have the right to catch you using any means available to them.


iaac
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crack my smoke signals


Howie
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To James, unfortunately the police using Blackberries to coordinate controlling the violence will not work, they already has communication devices to coordinate. The problem is, the looters would cause problems where no police were, the police would move to quell the violence, peole with Blackberries would send them messges police were on their way, the looters would move into an area where no police were and it continued like this.


CYL
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what's private nowadays.... nothing.


G
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During riots disable the BBM service. It was chosen to organize the riots as it is secure. Unfettered access is a violation of privacy.


Mary
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No!


@prof pie chat
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One can assert with complete intellectual authority that if you're out in the public domain committing a crime, anything the police can do to combat that is fair game. I can also assert that, as usual, you believe only your view is the correct view. In a free and democratic society, all view points are given equal weight and merit. For someone who spews civics lessons while simultaneously rendering, in your own opinion, the views of others as idiotic and uneducated, you need to be quiet and think a little for yourself. It's one thing to have a point of view, it's another to believe that nobody else can. You do that in spades.


JP
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Is it ok for police to crack my privaye messages. Umm how about no, if we allow that to happen we now open the door for abuse of power. Were would it stop, they want to crack phone messages and then what. Maybe they should be allowed to tap everybodys land lines perhaps or follow every sinlge thing we do via internet. Remember opening pandoras box is not something we want to do. I dont do anything illegal but that doesnt mean I want the police tracking my every move. Bye Bye to privacy if this continues to go in this direction.


Jennifer
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Why does "everyone" have to pay for the mistakes of a few??? No way should anyone be allowed to snoop into your privacy. This riot is being used as an excuse for Big Brother to justify doing what they already intended and want to do "before" any riot..don't kid yourselves!


Chris, Alberta
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We saw in Toronto that SOMETIMES there are SOME police who cannot be trusted. This will always be the case no matter how good MOST cops are. There are always bad apples who should not even be cops. For this reason we need to have judicial oversight of all activities of the police that infringe upon commonly accepted freedoms. Judicial oversight beforehand is preferable otherwise immediately afterwards with severe sanction for abuse. It shouldn't take days to get a warrant - it should take an hour at most - especially in the height of a civil emergency. We don;t need to erode civil rights and freedoms just because the system is slow - we need to hire cops, lawyers and judges who know how to get things done as fast as the rioters.


JR
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yes the police should access to blackberry phones and anything else they desire in the times of looting and destroying cities and robbing people who they claim to be helping.


Goldens
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Police should have the right to access information when it is being used for criminal purposes. If the police suspect illegal activity they have and should have the right to seek a warrant from a judge to access that information.


James
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Hmm... here's a thought, maybe the police should get some blackberries and use them to co-ordinate keeping the peace?What a novel idea, instead of going after people's freedoms they use the same technology to fight back.Strange how the simple ideas are overlooked.


anon
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@Free . so, dude . what have you got to hide that you don't want the cops to read????


James
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Then what next, will they want the right to come and collect me as well and lock me up without reason for a few hours? Then maybe the police will tell the media what they can't report in case it inspires more mayhem?..Careful Mr. Authority, be very careful treading on our rights...Hmmmm, sounds like the Metropolitan Toronto police have not though this through, er sorry, the British police.


Adam - GTA
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Never, ever, no. As soon as we let government or police spy on us, no matter how noble the reason they will not stop. Once they have access you think they will stop looking ?! The police will have to do their jobs the old fashion way, with helicopters and patrols at various points to see where riots start. I would not use BlackBerry if is no longer private.


Jenny
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@Fitey: Yes, you should care if someone sees your text messages if you aren't doing something illegal. Most people do plenty of things which are perfectly legal, but that they still don't want made public -- embarrassing things, shameful things, things you would rather just keep private for whatever reason. People have naked photos of boyfriends/girlfriends on their phones; this is not illegal, but do you want other people to see them?


stevo
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Cyberspace is not a private domain. Criminals who leave tracks of their criminal activities deserve what the law throws at them. It seems to me that the criminals who are the the most difficult to catch are those that work alone because they do not need to share their thoughts or intentions with others.


DM
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give me liberty or give me death


Redneck Albertan
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London and the rest of the UK has more surveillance cameras/capita than anywhere else in the world. They have a modern police force with access to all kinds of tools to monitor activity within their cities and the public is willing to report unlawful behavior. Given all of the tools they have, why should they need to access people's personal communication devices as well?


Marc
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Sure! Sounds pretty good. I personally think anyone that uses one or any kind of cell phone deserves it. Most of you use them to constantly update your Twitter or Facebook status, letting people know where you are at all times and what you're doing, so why not let the police take your info? Nice double standard by the way. You only want your privacy when you do something illegal.


Prof. Pye Chartt
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One cannot assert, with any intellectual authority, that individual "rights" are a cute "legal fiction" in a free society while maintaining that "law and order" is the "cornerstone" of a democracy, as underpinned by the "rule of law." It's contradictory, as each principle requires the other. Either you fully value the FREEDOM to speak and communicate PRIVATELY or you don't. Moreover, the notion that the word "reasonable" can easily be molded to suit determined purposes is a fallacy that invites conflict and governmental abuse. How disturbing it is to witness the willingness of some in this forum to relinquish their liberty, and naively fall for an insidiously crafty self-serving governmental "justification" that such abandonment will ultimately protect them. Silly fools. Think and extrapolate, folks. That slippery slope only takes a free society downward, to the bottom, one measure at a time.


Yub a navinim
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Privacy extends to what you do in your own house and that's it. Anything used in public to commit a crime is fair game for the authorities. If it's a smart phone or a scrap of paper, police, with the approval of a judge, ought to be able to hack, crack and decode any information they can. If you are not a criminal you have nothing to worry about. I bet most of the people citing privacy issues have something to hide. As usual, the 80% of honest people have to pay for the 20% that are criminals but for honest people such as myself, it's a small price to pay to safety and security. I say the police do whatever is necessary and then the courts hit the perps hard.


Canadian
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Next they will want to hack into our medical files. This is a total invasion of privacy. They won't want people using them in a time of disaster.....cut the cell access.


Jabberwocky ate my Dingo
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MI-5 (England), CSIS (Canada), CIA (USA), Etc. should have the ability to get into these systems. The regular Cop-Shop though? I think not.


JD, Ottawa
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The most dangerous opinion people can have here is "well if I'm not doing anything wrong what do I care if they snoop in my phone?" This implies that you're ready to submit to the state and allow them into every corner of your life. Even though I'm doing nothing wrong, the state has NO BUSINESS in my personal affairs without a warrant. I'm not about to give Big Brother carte blanche access into your life either. It's important to note that the Conservatives omnibus crime bill plans on taking away our right to privacy online and allows law enforcement access to your information without a warrant. We must all fight to stop that.


schpid
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If I used a crowbar to break into a house the police would take it away. If I used my car to run over and kill someone, they would take it away. if you use any type of "tool" to plan, organize and aid in the committing of a crime, then be prepared for it to be taken away or restricted by the police.If those us who are tired of all of our "rights" being trampled on got involved and stood up to the criminals and helped the police make our communities safer, there wouldn't need to be new rules that affect us all for the stupid actions of a few to be enacted


NurseBC
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The police should have to follow the usual protocols for search warrants in cases of known crimes or suspected criminal activity but to give them carte blanche? No. People have a right to privacy, privacy rules must be followed and peoples confidentiality must be respected at all times. Canadians gave up a lot of freedoms with the passing of the USA Patriot Act and we should insist on not giving police forces the right to invade peoples cell phones.


Murray Kingsbury
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This Smacks of George Orwell's "1984". "Big Brother is watching you!"The NEWS media has lost control of the population.Now the population has the the tool to control itself.With this power in the wrong hands for the wrong reasons it is a disaster waiting to happen.The Government and police should use all the legal power it has to control illegal activity.


B.J.
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Yes the police have a right to crack peoples communication devices when its used in a criminal way. Go for it, those who did nothing wrong have nothing to hide. Those looters are criminals, so deal with it. Congrats. to the London police force for catching so many. Too bad they werent as fast in this country during the G20 and the Vancouver riots. Its a great thing that cameras helped out thats a good thing.


mad mike macdonald
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the police should not have axcess to my blackberry. what i have on it is no one's business but my own. the problem with the british was there lack of training, they could not even catch kids on bycycles in manchester. they should not use the blackberry as an excuess. it seems it is going to take a yank cop from L.A. to show them how to do it.


CraigW
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Wouldn't it be more effective if the politicians and the police tackled the roots of the problems instead of invading our privacy? I have always been a bigger fan of proactive solutions than reactive ones.


Raj
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Jam them.I say if they are causing fires and deaths jam them , so they cant tweet where to torhc next If they asked me if they could tie up mine, and it would save a life, or many lives given jobs went up in flames.I would say yes , do it!!!


Fitey
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Do I care if the Government sees my text messages if I'm not doing anything illegal?


mike
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Oh how the tables have turned, a few years ago western countries and governments would have sharply criticized any middle eastern dictator, or communist government for shutting down social networks or hacking into it's citizens private communications, or jailing citizens and whistle blowers who speak out against the oppressive regimes and governments. But looks like they are all on the same page. "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Fraklin.


mike
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Oh how the tables have turned, a few years ago western countries and governments would have sharply criticized any middle eastern dictator, or communist government for shutting down social networks or hacking into it's citizens private communications, or jailing citizens and whistle blowers who speak out against the oppressive regimes and governments. But looks like they are all on the same page. "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Fraklin.


mike
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Oh how the tables have turned, a few years ago western countries and governments would have sharply criticized any middle eastern dictator, or communist government for shutting down social networks or hacking into it's citizens private communications, or jailing citizens and whistle blowers who speak out against the oppressive regimes and governments. But looks like they are all on the same page. "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Fraklin.


J.C.
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Normally I would have to say that police do not have the right to access a person's internet account. However in the event that thugs or whoever are using those accounts as a means to commit crime then I have to say that police should be able to have access to them or programs to intercept them, providing they can obtain a search warrant to do so. There should be checks on the police so that they do not obtain info on law abiding citizens without just cause. There is a real need for new laws to cover the internet just as we have laws to cover such matters in every day life.


Free to Be
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It disturbs me to see the amount of people who think that monitoring our communications isn't a problem, and support government control of just about every aspect of our lives.Our society becomes more paranoid every year and we are subject to increasing invasions into our personal spaces in the name of "safety."Benjamin Franklin said: "Those who would give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."If he could see what our North American societies have become, he'd be turning over in his grave.We need to stand up for our Freedom and Right to Be!


Sam C
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I feel that it is appropriate that the Police be granted access AFTER the fact, to ascertain the extent of an individual's involvement in criminal or illicit activities. If there was sufficient evidence that an individual was PLANNING criminal activities, again a warrant could be granted to access that individual's account, in much the same way wiretaps are granted. but there is no sound reasoning behind the Police gaining access during a riot, nor any positive way to identify individual accounts that might (or might not) contain evidence during a riot. The only possible purpose for collecting such evidence is prosecutorial, not prevention.


Paul from 'Loo
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Murakami Wood asks, "Is it really right that everybody's mobile phone service gets trolled because a few people have been using this to organize looting?" Seems to me that Wood has missed the critical point: this was not "a few people", these were HUGE MOBS BURNING CARS AND BUILDINGS and STEALING MILLIONS OF WORTH OF MERCHANDISE. Four guys smashing trash cans in the back alley or grabbing a couple of bags of chips from the corner Mac's Milk - we'll deal with it without shutting down cellular access; but that is far from what was happening in Britain last week. I don't know how anybody opposed to riots of that sort can object to having their cell phones interrupted in order to stop them.


Thomas
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Normally, I enjoy the Prof's posts but this time his libertarian worldview misses the point. Remember that that little legal fiction called rights is not the cornerstone of society, the cornerstone is the rule of law and that includes reasonal limitations on individual liberties. There is nothign about this that is unreasonable.


Rick in AB
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I agree that the police must become a lot more inventive in strategies to curtail this sort of rediculous behaviour, but what if someone caught in the viloence was trying to call the police for help on their cell phone. Now we are putting someone in danger because the police can't think outside the box or use already existing methods to their full extent.I also doubt that it is Only Blackberries that are in use since it is stated that people are also using Twitter and Facebook to organize these offences. I owned a Blackberry and you need somebody's specific PIN # (usually 8 characters long) to carry on a BBN message with them, so if they are just using Blackberries then this is extremely well organized and that means gangs or people who set it up before getting on the street. That info should narrow down the search from just random individuals to gang members and known associates or a person and their buddies.The police have to get a little more inovative in the face of this type of organizing and I'm sure their Techies will figure out before long. I just hope the politicians and law makers back them up while respecting the innocent persons rights.


Greg
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YES they should! The only people who would have a problem with this are people that are doing things illegal. So suck it up. The police need more power in this country to control criminals because as of now, the criminals hide behind all our rights and the charter to continue their criminal activity.


Rose in Ontario
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The much extolled Freedom in the West is a distant memory and if the right wing loons who fear their own shadow have any say, they will assist the government in taking all our rights away so that Canada (& USA) will turn into Orwell's 1984. Riots cause change. Human's rarely change when asked politely therefore change often arrives violently. Something is not working in British society that's why poor, angry people are rioting because they believe they will not be heard otherwise. Like it or not that is human behaviour. Finally, the Brit's have camera's up every citizens butt and riots raged regardless so I'm thinking that further invasion of privacy will not quell the situation.


WIll
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Before you start equating reasonable measures for public safety and order with repression, Mike, you need to dump all that nonsense you've absorbed from American television. That legal fiction called rights does not trump the piblic good and safety. As for your worry about communication blackouts and mass arrests, stop drinking the cool-aid provided by the activists, no such thing is contemplated nor would it be permitted. Unlike the US, the cornerstone of our legal system is the principle of the rule of law, meaning that any action taken MUST be in accordance with both the written law and the unwritten COMMON LAW. If you take the trouble to actually learn about it you will find that you are far safer from your nightmares than you imagine. And don't worry about the false tales circulating about the big bad authorities at the G20, they were FAR more lenient with the mobs than they should have been.


FCS
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Yes it was the Blackberry's that caused this not years of failed immigration policies, socialist economic nonsense and a completely useless and over mathched police force. Give me a break. Every country deals with riots from time to time but most have there guts to stand up for their citizens and not let the mobs rule. An England neautered by years of liberal political correctness no longer has the will to do so I guess. You reap what you sow.


Prof. Pye Chartt
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Very disappointing to see RIM jump to the assistance of British authorities like the nervously nerdy little teacher's pet anxious to rat out a fellow classmate to get a pat on the head. Unprincipled. U.K. police authorities are merely USING the company in an overreactive effort to draw the focus away from their insufficient, delayed response and the pansy-pants initial directives of the British government that, together, allowed the riotous mayhem to get ridiculously out of hand. What's next? Banning sneakers, so that punks can't flee police so quickly? Give me/us a break. I've always supported the proper "equipping" of law enforcement, but, throwing down personal privacy and any related communicative rights isn't a genuine part of the necessary equation. It's a politically motivated distraction.


Kevin
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People should not have access to our facebook accounts. But now they do , and now lawyers for insurance companies demand you hand over hte password or they're not paying you a dime on your claim. People should not even know my phone number unless I tell them. But now every canadian's phone number is being sold to everyone in the world by Bell Canada. people have no business knowing where I surf on the internet. But now the police can demand my ISP keep track of me for years, and they can pull it up and do whatever they like with it. We're getting to the point where the only usefulness of your cell phone is to tell your firend to meet you at the usual coffee shop at noon.


Chris in Kingston
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Cracking into Blackberries should follow the same rules as a landline wiretap. Those checks and balances have worked for quite some time, and would apply well to smartphones.


Paul ~ Kitchener
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YES ! When this communications device is "USED TO PROMOTE CRIME", then the police must have access. The police can access our home phones when needed to investigate illegal activities with court authorization. This should also apply here as well. More crime and itlegal activities are easily communicated over these electronic devices ~ SO ~ YES to the police, having all access to all forms of communication to protect society. To much FREEDOM is awash in our society today, and the cards are stacked against the police, in favour of the criminal. Support the Police and NOT the ACLU & CCLU.


Mark
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NO!


JT in Vancouver
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George Orwell had it right, if he had called his book 2011, instead of 1984, he'd have been downright psychic! People in the West need to realize that these actions taken for "public safety" are also taken to centralize power over the electorate. We already live in a "Nanny-state", and the Nanny-state will always extend its power and influence over the people to the point that it does harm!


MikefromQuebec
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My previous comment was meant as a joke, but seriously, if this is allowed, we're only about one step away from state approved communications blackouts to permit mass arrests. It wasn't too long ago that we all abhorred that sort of behaviour by governments. They were called oppressive. Is that what we are coming to here in the free west?


MikefromQuebec
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No, they should only be able to crack into bad peoples Blackberries.


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