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Date: Thu. Jun. 16 2011 9:55 PM ET
Horror at the violence that erupted in Vancouver after the Canucks' defeat in the Stanley Cup final Wednesday night has turned to outrage over a perceived failure to prevent the mayhem.
Bob Whitelaw, who helped research the riot that broke out following the 1994 Stanley Cup final, said he watched Wednesday night's events unfold "in disbelief."
Whitelaw said police ignored many of the 100 recommendations in an early draft of a report that stemmed from the 1994 investigation.
"It would have been reduced," Whitelaw told CTV News Channel Thursday evening when asked if the violence would have been as severe. "We had six games with no problem at all, win or lose for Vancouver. It was a seventh game in ‘94 and the seventh game last night that the plans fell apart for whatever reason."
Vancouver police said they arrested more than 100 people in the Stanley Cup riot, but most were released within 24 hours.
The majority of those arrested were detained for breach of the peace or public intoxication.
Eight remain in custody for more serious charges including break-and-enter, theft, mischief and assault. Two people have been charged in a stabbing.
Vancouver Police Chief Jim Chu said most of the people arrested were from outside of the city.
Earlier Thursday, Chu said authorities are determined to track down the "criminals, anarchists and thugs" who destroyed property and rioted in downtown streets after the game.
It took hours for police to bring the ferocious riots under control, as cars were overturned, store windows were smashed and smoke billowed from overturned vehicles that had been lit ablaze. Looters were seen stealing makeup, clothing and even a mannequin from major retailers that were targeted during the riots.
Chu said nine officers were injured during the riots, including one officer who needed 14 stitches after being hit by a brick. Another officer suffered a concussion. There were also officers who suffered "human bites," Chu said.
Police saw offenders carrying gasoline and fire extinguishers with them, suggesting that some of the people involved had come prepared to cause trouble.
Whitelaw said in his view, the violence was worse on Wednesday than it was in 1994, with more damage and "outright thievery."
According to Whitelaw, the overturning and torching of vehicles could have been prevented if police had removed all vehicles from the streets around the designated fan zones, which had been set up to allow spectators to watch the game.
But he also pointed out that police officers congregated in groups and appeared to be awaiting orders "while law breaking was occurring in their immediate vicinity."
"I was troubled by that, not just as a viewer but having participated in that study for so many months," Whitelaw said. "Once you start to let laws be broken -- broken windows, looting, damage to cars -- and let it go unchecked, it's a slippery slope and how do you recover?"
Whitelaw said the rioters likely caused at least $1 million in property damage, which will be "far outweighed by what I call the billion-dollar lost image that Vancouver is going to have to work at recovering over the next number of years."
Local hospital officials have confirmed that nearly 150 people needed treatment after the riots, though it is not clear if injured police officers were included in those figures.
Two of the injured parties admitted to hospital had been stabbed, while another male patient suffered head injuries and is now in critical condition.
As the riots raged on Wednesday night, Vancouver Mayor Gregor Roberston put the blame on "a small number of hooligans" who were looking for trouble.
"It's absolutely disgraceful and shameful and by no means represents the city of Vancouver," Robertson said.
On Twitter, Vancouver police said they would be releasing information on how members of the public can send in their pictures and videos of the riots to investigators.
Police struggled to control rioting
While the police had put many officers on the streets throughout the playoffs, they could not keep a lid on the rioting that ignited after the Canucks lost.
CTV's Atlantic Bureau Chief Todd Battis said the riots reportedly began with one fan lighting a on fire a stuffed animal looked like a bear -- apparently to represent the Boston Bruins who battled fiercely throughout the seven-game series.
"That led to a car being set on fire, a car that we're being told by at least one witness was brought down to deliberately be burned. And that really got things rolling," Battis reported Thursday.
With the chance to win a Stanley Cup gone, many Canucks fans could not understand why some people had decided to make the situation worse by taking part in riots.
"Tonight, what I've seen is a complete disgrace," said Beth Hope, a 28-year-old who moved to Vancouver two years ago from England.
Hope said she had tucked her Canucks jersey into her bag, after becoming "ashamed to be a fan" in the devolving atmosphere on the streets.
"It's insane, it's absolutely insane. What's the point? Our team lost -- why destroy our own city? I'm afraid."
Lifelong Canucks fan Chad McMillan was similarly disgusted with the rioting.
"This isn't what the Canucks are about," the 31-year-old said. "This isn't what their fans are about, this isn't what this city is about."
A black eye for Vancouver?
No matter what the mayor and other Vancouver residents said, the rioting drew attention all over the world.
Footage of fires burning on Vancouver streets were shown on CNN. On the other side of the Pacific Ocean, Australia's Sydney Morning Herald website showed photos from the riots.
Wai Young, the Conservative MP for Vancouver South, also made reference to the riots in Parliament during question period Thursday.
On Twitter, Young said "the violence is an embarrassment and absolute disgrace to our city."
Hedy Fry, the long-time Liberal MP for Vancouver Centre, said she believed the police handled the situation as best they could.
But she was a loss to describe the motivation of individuals that took pictures of themselves near flaming cars and stood by while looting raged.
"This is madness," Fry told CTV News Channel from Ottawa.
Robert Gordon, a criminology professor at Simon Fraser University, said there are at least two types of people who can be found in the midst of riot-type events: the main agitators and individuals who like to watch what they are doing.
For this second group, Gordon told CTV News Channel that their motivations appear mainly rooted "in the entertainment value of what's unfolding in the streets of Vancouver."
The Boston Bruins received a police escort when returning to the airport and they arrived in their hometown mid-morning on Thursday. They were greeted by several dozen fans who were eager to celebrate their win over Vancouver.
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Now we should be politically correct in paying homage to these feminists by dropping the "miss" as if that is somehow derogatory?? ..... It amazes me on how trivial the causes are that people will devote their life to. They obviously "Miss" the point to life.
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It sure didn't last long
1 loss and those hundreds of "fans" suddenly became monsters. They are real fans, because the real fans would have been happy our boys even made it this far. We had an amazing year! the top team in the regular season and even pushed the stanley cup finals all the way to game 7! I can't imagine how our players feel, they deserve so much better than this.
shame on vancouver "fans" who were only committed for the glory that could've come with winning that cup. Being a fan means loving the team, win or lose.
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1: ban all outside viewing of sports events. Gatherings of more then 50 arrested.
End of story
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BTW: Congratulations to the Bruins.
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Anyway, that's part of life. The most important is too see what will be the reaction of the government. I'm sure it will be different from the reaction my country puts for its citizens.
Blessed be Canada!
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what were these fools thinking ? this city and it's hockey fans are the biggest idiots on this planet , as they have yet again proved !!!
i hope the NHL bans hockey in vancouver all together...forever....!!!! this IS the only solution !!!
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INCOMPOTANT POLICE
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Don't believe their non sincere appology. They know what they were doing...period.
And one more thing...idiots...idiots..you are all idiots.
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The unsportsmanlike conduct of your hockey fans at the arena is also a black eye on our whole society. What happened to respect and enjoyment of the game, and giving the winner his due congratulations?
I'm embarrassed to be Canadian today, and sad for what the future of this world holds.
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I still want to visit Vancouver! : )
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What these disgraceful Canadians need to remember is that hockey is just a game .....
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The Mark Emery & Terry David Mulligan leadings?
We know where Marijuana & booze is flowing, there is trouble.
Anybody with brains would know if you bring thousands of people
together in one spot, it spells trouble! "The rent a crowed" will always be there.
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As for the media who surreptitiously encourage this sort of thing in the name of "news", how about stepping up in the form of a front page section with close up pictures of each and every rioter. It wasn't many and I'm sure it would ostracise them quite nicely!
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Just as they showed the world how beautiful a city Vancouver is and how passionate and patriotic the fan base is during the Olympics (a short 16 months ago), they absolutely tarred & feathered that same image. This will take a long time to forget from peoples memories.
I'm embarrassed to be Canadian right now because of Vancouver...
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Police should use rubber bullets and plainly shoot those ignorants. Convictions should be forced labor for a year or 2.
Harper, its time to be pass new legislature to stop this nonsense and to protect people.
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Should there be another big event of any kind...the army should be called in to assist the authorities and declare MARSHAL LAW when matters get out of hand. VERY...VERY SAD INDEED.
Also too bad for the CANUCKS...and hurray for the BRUINS.
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Unfortunately alcohol was probably the main source of the problem. This drug is well known for giving people brass balls and turning situations worse when people gather in large numbers.
This would probably not have happened if everyone was baked. People would still be happy if they lost, say good game for the other team, and passed along that doobie in peace, or just passed out from to many tokes during the game.
Maybe we should look into the root of the problem a little further..
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They should have tarred and feathered Bettman while they were at it!
RIOT, BABY, RIOT!
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I am in no way blaming media, blogs, etc, but I don't think they helped the situation.
And I just want to say a huge thank you to the police officers and firefighters who did an amazing job last night!
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Thanks to all the videos and photos we should be able to round up a good chain gang.
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80% of all the fans are peaceful.
20% contain extremists who want nothing more than to create mayhem and of course then blame the police, same extremists who trashed the G20 in Toronto.
Pity that the police were not ready as it was totally predictable and planned well ahead of the game results. Now get the photographs and charge these idiots. People who stood by and watched are also complicit in this mess. They too are criminals.
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There are two points to be made here. 1. Why wasn't the city better prepared given they seen what happened the last time. 2. It is disgraceful that after hostig the olympics that they would show the WORLD what poor sports we are.
Imagine the difference in the news coverage if we had of been the bigger person and congradulated the winners and thanked our team for their efforts. Not a very good way to support your team by trashing the city.
I am ashamed to be a Canadaian today.
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no crowd that size should ever have been alloweed to assemble without very special provisions in case things go sideways as thet did what a sad day for all of us anywher in canada.
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The Vancouver Police force needs to be reviewed...stating on TV 1 hour after the riots started "oh we are prepared and have things in hand"....as we watch the police retreating from people throwing things at them, vehicles burning, fires in buildings, MANY breaking windows in buildings and looting!"
I hope they are thoroughly punished but doubt it as many probably did not get arrested!
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However leave it to the good old hockey to bring the best out of people. NOT
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I was embarassed for Canada this morning when I heard about this childish behaviour! Only a million dollars in willful damage and a billion dollars of shame to all Canadians... Embarrassing!
The police do not act fast enough with the hoses! The Local fire department should be right there to soak em down, not knock em down with pressure but soak em with cold water... You have less desire to riot once you are cold and wet. Now, they should be held accountable.... We all lose here...!
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a small group of jerks (would use harsher language but... ) causing so much harm - million or so dollars in damage- MILLIONS in bad publicity and loss of future revenues by tourists etc...
SHAME
People are finally realizing that there is a core group - in Vancouver and we saw them in Toronto last year - of hooligans - anarchists - army boot camp in the north !
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These individuals are causing the rest of us Canadians look like we are all out of control to the rest of the World.
These individuals should not consider themselves proud Canadians.
It is time to go up.
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