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Canadian Union of Postal Workers members picket in front of a the main post office on Graham Avenue in Winnipeg, Manitoba on Friday June 3, 2011. THE CANADIAN PRESS / Trevor Hagan Canadian Union of Postal Workers members picket in front of a the main post office on Graham Avenue in Winnipeg on Friday, June 3, 2011. (Trevor Hagan / THE CANADIAN PRESS) A Canadian Union of Postal Workers member pickets in front of a the main post office on Graham Avenue in Winnipeg, Friday, June 3, 2011. (Trevor Hagan / THE CANADIAN PRESS)  Canadian Union of Postal Workers chief negotiator Denis Lemelin gestures during news conference in Ottawa, Friday June 3, 2011. (Fred Chartrand / THE CANADIAN PRESS)  Canadian Union of Postal Workers members picket in front of a the main post office on Graham Avenue in Winnipeg, Friday, June 3, 2011. (Trevor Hagan / THE CANADIAN PRESS)  Canadian Union of Postal Workers members picket in front of a the main post office on Graham Avenue in Winnipeg, Friday, June 3, 2011. (Trevor Hagan / THE CANADIAN PRESS)  Denis Lemelin, president of the Canadian Union of Postal Worker, speaks at a press conference in Ottawa on Friday, June 3, 2011. Denis Lemelin, president of the Canadian Union of Postal Worker, speaks at a press conference in Ottawa on Friday, June 3, 2011.

Hamilton next in line for rotating Canada Post strikes

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CTV National News: Jill Macyshon on the union
Canada Post workers began rotating strikes Thursday night and the union says the walkouts will continue until the two sides reach a deal.
CTV Winnipeg: Jeremy Hunka on postal strike
Unionized workers from Canada Post took to picket lines in Winnipeg through Thursday night and into Friday. The city was the first site in Canada to experience the rotating strike, with Hamilton, Ont. set to be the next location, beginning late Friday.
CTV News Channel: Ann Barnard Ball, Yonge street mission
A development officer with the organization 'Yonge Street Mission' discusses whether or not the postal strike is having an impact on donations to the mission. She says the majority of charity sent to the mission is by mail.
CTV News Channel: Jon Hamilton, Canada Post
Canada Post's director of communications says the strike actions are 'completely unnecessary' and mail is still being delivered in Winnipeg. Hamilton says equipment used by Canada Post is safely used at postal systems around the world.
CTV Winnipeg: Jeremy Hunka on the strike
Unionized workers with Canada Post hit picket lines Thursday night in Winnipeg. Hundreds of postal workers will be striking in the city all day, and they are only the first in a rotating strike that could sweep across the country.
CTV News Channel: Denis Lemelin, president
The president of the Canadian Union of Postal Workers says they will continue to put pressure on Canada Post, and asks that the public also adds pressure. He says they have yet to receive a bargaining agreement that addresses their concerns.
CTV Winnipeg Extended: Postal workers strike
Canadian Union of Postal Workers go on strike in Winnipeg after failing to negotiate a new contract with Canada Post.
CTV National News: Richard Madan on the strike
Canada Post workers will walk off the job at midnight tonight, after last minute negotiations failed to reach a deal.

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Canadian Union of Postal Workers members picket in front of a the main post office on Graham Avenue in Winnipeg, Manitoba on Friday June 3, 2011. THE CANADIAN PRESS / Trevor Hagan Canadian Union of Postal Workers members picket in front of a the main post office on Graham Avenue in Winnipeg on Friday, June 3, 2011. (Trevor Hagan / THE CANADIAN PRESS) A Canadian Union of Postal Workers member pickets in front of a the main post office on Graham Avenue in Winnipeg, Friday, June 3, 2011. (Trevor Hagan / THE CANADIAN PRESS)  Canadian Union of Postal Workers chief negotiator Denis Lemelin gestures during news conference in Ottawa, Friday June 3, 2011. (Fred Chartrand / THE CANADIAN PRESS)  Canadian Union of Postal Workers members picket in front of a the main post office on Graham Avenue in Winnipeg, Friday, June 3, 2011. (Trevor Hagan / THE CANADIAN PRESS)  Canadian Union of Postal Workers members picket in front of a the main post office on Graham Avenue in Winnipeg, Friday, June 3, 2011. (Trevor Hagan / THE CANADIAN PRESS)  Denis Lemelin, president of the Canadian Union of Postal Worker, speaks at a press conference in Ottawa on Friday, June 3, 2011. Denis Lemelin, president of the Canadian Union of Postal Worker, speaks at a press conference in Ottawa on Friday, June 3, 2011.

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Canadian Union of Postal Workers members picket in front of a the main post office on Graham Avenue in Winnipeg, Manitoba on Friday June 3, 2011. THE CANADIAN PRESS / Trevor Hagan

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Date: Fri. Jun. 3 2011 8:29 PM ET

Postal workers in Hamilton will be following their Winnipeg co-workers onto the picket line this weekend, as their union tries to increase pressure on continuing negotiations with Canada Post.

Union of Postal Workers president Denis Lemelin said workers in Hamilton will walk off the job late Friday, as part of the ongoing action across the country.

"Tonight, starting at 11:45 Eastern time, our co-workers in Hamilton will walk out on strike for the next 48 hours," Lemelin said.

"We will continue to negotiate, but we must add pressure on Canada Post," he said, suggesting the public phone the Crown corporation with the message: "You have to sit down and negotiate a good collective agreement."

The union is hoping to keep Canada Post from instituting changes it says would weaken health and safety measures.

For its part, Canada Post has said it needs to reduce labour costs because its lettermail business has dropped of by more than 17 per cent since 2006, as customers increasingly move to digital communications.

Approximately 150 people took to the picket lines in Winnipeg at 10:59 p.m. CT Thursday night.

CUP-W said Winnipeg was chosen to begin a promised series of rotating strikes because workers there were the first affected by the introduction of new mail processing machines at the heart of grievances with Canada Post's "modernization" program.

"It does often catch a bit more attention for us with the corporation just because they don't know what city it's coming to next, so there is no preparation for them," CUP-W Winnipeg local vice-president Lisa Peterson said.

Canada Post spokesperson Jon Hamilton said he hoped the Winnipeg walkout would mark both the beginning and conclusion of the job action.

"We're hoping this is the end of it," Hamilton said, suggesting the 24-hour strike "is completely unnecessary and it's a huge disruption to our customers."

One group anxious to see a speedy resolution to the strike is charities that rely on mailed donations.

Ann Barnard Bell, development officer with Yonge Street Mission in Toronto, told CTV News Channel that she is concerned about having to cut services.

The mission, which provides services including keeping kids out of gang activity, takes in 70 per cent of their donations through the mail.

"Our hope is that people who have traditionally given to us through the mail would go online and make an online donation or telephone their donation in."

Latest offer

In its latest offer tabled, Canada Post said it would be willing to put a controversial short-term disability program on hold, pending a neutral review.

But Lemelin cited safety concerns as a primary point of conflict.

"We will continue to strike ... the goal is still the same, it is achieving a good collective agreement," Lemelin said in Ottawa Friday.

In addition to losing business to online services, Canada Post says it's also bearing a $3.2-billion pension deficit, leaving the corporation no choice but to address labour costs.

"The postal service is under threat from the Internet and we do need to change for the future," Hamilton said, referring to the CPC's proposal of a defined benefit pension plan for both new and existing employees as well as a lower starting wage than the $23 new hires are paid now.

But in her view, Winnipeg letter carrier Michelle Fidler doesn't think that argument stands up to scrutiny.

"The corporation isn't telling people that they have made up for that loss volume in regular mail ... they've made up for it by soliciting more and more addressed and unaddressed ad-mail contracts," Fidler told The Canadian Press.

"I have 453 residential calls that I go to everyday. It measures out at eight miles a day. And I go to almost every house every day. I rarely skip a house. There are volumes there," she said.

The union's approximately 48,000 members have been in a legal strike position since May, when its members voted 95 per cent in favour of striking.

In its proposal, the union is seeking a four-year contract with a guaranteed wage increase of 3.3 per cent in the first year, followed by 2.75 per cent increases in the next two years.

When postal workers last went on strike in the fall of 1997, their two-week job action ended with federal back-to-work legislation.

However long the strike lasts, both the union and Canada Post have promised Canadians who rely on the mail for certain monthly federal and provincial payments that they'll still get their cheques.

On one day each month, Canada Post employees have volunteered to leave the picket lines to deliver Canada Pension Plan, Old Age Security and Child Benefits cheques.

With files from The Canadian Press

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what? Hamilton?
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I have a gut feeling that it is the union centre, Hamilton, with possible sympathetic audiences, that Canada Post is targeting with these rotating strikes. Unions are getting like the Liberal Party; throw a rally, and no one comes! Mostly, the time has passed for both these groups; they are like a blast from the past. Neither even has a coherent message anymore. Note to posties: get this strike settled, be glad for what you already get from beleagered taxpayers. Hey, it is the 21st century; the pony express is long retired; don't push your luck!


Paul R
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Lock them out and put an end the union drama.!!!They will be shocked to realize that during the strike many will be forced to convert their pension cheques and bills to direct deposit and ebill formats hence reducing their need for this outdated mode of communication. Union leadership is akin to lemmings following their leader....over the cliff.


Coke0
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Everyone who posts that its about money should get their facts straight. ITS NOT ABOUT MONEY 3.3%,%2.75 for 2 years and 1.7% in the last year...alot less than the teachers in Sask want. The reason why your not going your mail till 5pm or every other day is because CPC cut jobs,and forced the extra work onto everyone else.15hr days are not something we are standing for! If you honestly think its so easy, come work for CPC and see what it's like.Also the CPC has pulled a profit for a min 6 years straight and the reward for employee's is staff reductions and more work thrown onto us.


Lethal1
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"Volumes around the world have been in a free-fall for years, including in Canada, which has seen a drop-off of 17 per cent over the last five years."So essentially they want more for less work and these numbers are just going to drop-off even more in the coming years.


Will
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Did you know: that is illegal to fire someone for participating in union activities (regardless of what the activity is - including ILLEGAL actions such as violence and vandalism) BUT it is legal for the union to force someone to join and, if they refuse to, force the employer to FIRE them for not joining the union. Just how is this fair or reasonable?


wayner
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wHY ARE WE EVEN THINKING ABOUT NEGOTIATION? JUST PRIVATIZE THE WHOLE CORPORATION AND LET THE GREEDY BA-STARDS FIND OTHER JOBS.


derrick
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union leader is useless.rotating strikes just make it harder on the worker when he comes back.most workers have dedication to finish their work.if you going to get your message across have everyone go on strike.that way c post will have to make a decision.


E.D
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Its funny how all we ever hear is the poor postal workers. Do these union workers really see what is like for those who work and are not part of a union. Seriously what more do you want from the government, and unlimtately from the tax payers. I don't work everyday to have to compensate for those who are inconsiderate and choose to be greedy. Wow and we are supposed to respect the mail carriers...Ha HA what a good laugh!


Darrell in Calgary
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I think this is quite funny how the pro union and the posties are trying to justitfy the greed they are showing and the "dangerous" environment they work in. I work construction and we have to use our heads and common sense when we are on the job. Unskilled labour is what a lot of you commenters are calling them. It would also appear you do not have to be smart and observant as well. Sad.


Old Ted
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At GM we had to be off a week without pay before starting sick benefits. It's amazing how few people got sick. I collected sick benefits once in 41 years and I was in the hospital with that one. When your whole business is rapidly becoming redundant, it isn't a good time to be going after more. The internet has pretty well replaced everything that the post office does. If you want job security, perhaps the post office people might look at handling the bigger stuff that they sluffed off onto the backs of UPS, FedEx and such companies. If you don't want to work, it can be arranged.


Craig
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It's funny, because every ridiculously negative person posting here would be speaking a very different tune if they were postal workers, or in a another union.I think it's jealousy... it's our wal-mart society of minimum wager earners that spend all their money in said wal-mart on rubbish and get mad when others don't have to do that.Jealousy and nothing more.


Idea Guy
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If I were in the union, I would be revolting against Lemelin, the clown of CUPW. His pathetic rhetoric about the deplorable working conditions and health and safety of the workers is just another boy crying wolf. Labour regulations would never allow this type of thing to happen.I feel for the working stiff that just wants to work. Time to start a rebellion against their own union for taking the food off their tables and the shoes off their children's feet!Down with CUPW to save all the small businesses in Canada!If Lemilin wants to go back to the 70's, maybe a good ole tarring and feathering of the union executives would be in order.


Dale
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How about Canada Post stops daily mail delivery to each home and switches to delivery on alternating days. That way 1 carrier could delivery to 2 routes (route A on day 1, 3, etc. and route B on day 2,4,etc). I am sure 99.9% of homes could survive without mail delivery every day. Those folks who rely on gov't cheques can always have those funds direct deposited to their bank. All the postal workers could keep their pay and benefits but lose 1/2 the staff.


Ricky
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I think those postal worker hinting us something , they started the strike in Winnipeg where we got the NHL team then to Hamilton next they might know who will get the NHL team next.


Joe Spumolio
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No wonder there's a 2 year wait for heart surgery in this country. Why bother going to university for 8 years to become a heart surgeon when you can go work at Canada Post and make more money? A government job that pays double what it should be paid. I've never heard of such a thing.


Pat
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Well for once I am with Canada Post on this . Posties need a reality check, demanding raises when the rest have to do without. As a senior I got $1.60 in my pension this year, what do you say about that. I say to you dont be greedy, you dont deserve the hrly rate you get. I have a community mail box and I costantly get wrong mail in my box, not even for someone on my street. So I guess some cant even read. I also dont get my mail until 3pm or later so service is definitely not a priority. I have complained to the P.O. to no avail, so I usually pick up my mail the next day, as most mail is garbage anyway. So strikes wont affect me, but I am sorry for those that need mail.


Old Ted
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Rather than rotating strikes, the government should lock them out and get it settled. The tax payer isn't a bottomless pit and it is time that government employees understand this.


Mikey
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While unions definitely served a genuine purpose at one time, this farcial strike is conclusive proof that most unions have outlived their usefulness to both the employees they represent and society as a whole.


Dave, Ottawa
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Reduce staff by 1/3, have mail 3 days a week.


Diana
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I am on WSIB, they are not sending out the chq bec of of this strike. They are governmets workers why they need strike?


Maritimer in Calgary
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I read some of the "posties" comments. I will not taint all the CP employees by the comments posted on this site. But, if they wish to ask who would walk far and carry a large and heavy pack for next to no real money on a daily basis, why not ask our soldiers in Afganistan?


Mark Dyer
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In all honesty, if we got our mail delivered 2 maybe 3 times a weeks, that would be fine. It's mainly magazines and junk anyway.


Ben
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Hey Phil,I'm not laughing at what you say - I make $100 an hour because that is what my skills allow me to get paid. On the other hand I do agree with many comments in regards to the skills needed to place pieces of paper into a box. You need to realize that you are not special, gifted or educated - but just like the rest of us. Oh, and by the way - your identity can be stolen just as easily from the bank - how do you think they do their biz. Did you know that they actually use computers and the internet - they just do it for you because you don't want to or don't have the knowledge. You are the perfect example of why no one supports you and the whole spectacle.


billy
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The fact is there are people in this country that depend on the mail for what ever reason plus the fact that many people are not tech savy and dont even own a computer ( older folks) so stopping the mail from coming to their doors/boxes isnt all that fair, I do agree that the postal service needs a re-ajustment of some sort but stopping it all together is just not feasilble.


RWNJ
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Wouldn't want to be a postie in Hamilton when an unemployed steelworker doesn't get his pogie cheque in the mail.


Frank
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Let's test the waters - Canada Post, hire replacement workers! I bet the line up would be around the block. University is out - lots of hard working students dying to make that wage. The mail would probably arrive faster than it ever has.


John Lethbridge
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I say we all be given an extra week of vacation each year to spend the week delivering the mail to our respective neighbourhoods, under the premise of community service (as a positive thing). I would even volunteer for the -40 deg. week, and of course sort out the junk mail for each of my neighbours. Since I would be a neighbourly kind of guy, I wouldn't insult the homeowners for the bit of ice on his walk or the snow in his driveway, instead maybe help him clean it up. The dog wouldn't be a problem since I am the friendly neighbour and not the snarling disgruntled postal worker who hates dogs. Sigh, a world where we would all just get along. On another note, I do keep half expecting that chief US postmaster guy from the Seinfeld show who harassed Cramer to walk into my office and peel a strip off me for signing up for all things e-mail, e-bill and direct deposit, tee hee.


Phil
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It kind of makes me laugh when people say, oh I wish I was making as much as these postal workers.
Well there's a simple solution. Put your application in to Canada Post and try out the job.
I get all my bills through Canada Post and I pay all my bills at the bank in person as I do not want my personal information compromised by some hacker. Think it can't happen to you? Just recently for example Sony and Honda accounts were hacked.


aneeter
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My mom mailed 2 letters to my city...she lives 2 hours away....my brother got his in 2 days mine....2 weeks. Starting wage 18 bucks and hour? I am a nurses aid at a nursing home...look after the elderly...have been doing it for 20 years and that is my wage???? Mail vs people......go figure


edCP
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Since when was the post office elevated to the status of rocket science. Get rid of them all and hire people who want to work.


rose
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We had a temp deliver our mail while our postie was on his 7 week holiday. She was quicker smarter and more respectful than our grumpyl guy who gets mad if you say anything to him . Grow up and get back to work


rosebud
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Thats strange because we live in White Rock BC and have not seen our postal worker for 2 days!!!! Wonder why?


URU
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If those Union employees think they can find a better cushioned job than terminate them immediately so they don't waste time looking for work else where. Perhaps, that's the best solution because there are many people out there who are ready and willing to replace them.Oh, don't forget that most mails sent today are electronic aside from parcels which UPS & FEDEX can cover and offer better services than those Postal employees. Its a dying business for stamps and mails. Its time to catch up with the future, end of the road for those lazy Union workers. Email us if you have a complaint!


Eve Halifax
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This is not a comment but a question for CTV!!! I wrote and submitted two comments all with in your guidelines and they are still not post over an hour later...Why? I hope it is NOT because they are Pro Worker and not right wing comments.I am very disappointed.


Doug
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Apparently 'AJA Bendoraitis' feels that all progress Canadians have made are a result of labour unions.
This is a very 'small and self serving' thought; I think he should spend a little time looking at history to find where the people who had the thought, expended the initial labour, spent the money and hence created the jobs in the first place also had a lot to do with Canada's success.

Those who came along after, although they were many reaped the benefits of others labour without any thought or risk.

Although it may make him feel justified in creating problems for all Canadians he is not remembering how he got where he is: the unions did not create the jobs.


Mikey
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I don't think the bashers here aren't appreciative for what unions have done in the past. We are just realists that understand that in light of the skills and education required for what postal workers do, you have it really good. Quit your jobs at CPC if you're not satisfied, there are many qualified candidates available to happily take your jobs, so get back to work.


John
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Unions are a sneaky bunch who know that nego'ing commitees get full pay while the workers are on the picket line and to get them out, they say at the meeting "WE DON'T WANT TO GO ON STRIKE. WE JUST NEED ALL OF YOU TO VOTE FOR STRIKE TO SHOW COMPANIES THAT YOU ARE SERIOUS" . After they have the strike vote' the people who are continueing to get paid decide when to go on strike. THIS IS WRONG! Pay the neg. commitee the same strke pay and see how long they wait to allow the members on the Compay offer


Gisabun
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It may affect some businesses but personally, the strike won't affect me. Sometimes I don't get mail for a couple of days.Now if they showed up to deliver at a decent time - and not at 5pm.


KDC
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If I was the CEO of Canada Post, I would give the employees lay off notices immediately and the employees can go back to work or find a another job.


K.Volber
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Let's just hope that Canada Post will hold it's ground.Unfortunately every time the Union goes on strike Canada Post folds in the end and the Union is laughing. These guys are just a little to strike happy.


ILoveMyJob
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The Public does not know the true facts about Postal Workers & what CUPW is fighting for in this STRIKE against Canada Post. All we hear is the public whining and complaining about this and that! We are just like you. We have our financial obligations and we are trying to earn a living and provide for our families. Come and work as a Postal Employee for a day and then give us your feedback. I would like to VOTE on the current offer. I love my job.


M.Marko
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Let them Strike!! We're paying far to much for a service that is much cheaper and more efficient in the US. Workers get paid for working and not for being sick. Sick days are costly and one of the most abused benefits. No work - No pay. That's why it's called the workplace. Want to get paid for being off when you're legitimately sick? then get insurance.


margaret picton
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From reading the comments this Union does not have the public's sympathy, nor does it have mine. I get Rural delivery and I can't count the times the mail has gone missing, mail delivered to my box that is not mine, or not picked up for days at a time. These workers are overpaid, and under worked. Don't tell me about the trials of your job. Every job has it's down side. If you hate it so much quit, and give it to someone who will do it properly and appreciate it. Bet you won't!


AJA Bendoraitis
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I guess all of you Union Bashers should consider giving up all the things YOU enjoy because someone fought hard for them on your behalf. The reason that most of you are treated fairly, paid well, and enjoy safe working conditions is because of Canada's Unions. It's senseless to be bitter because others are seeking to better their circumstances and ensure others are treated fairly. Everyone says union labour is expensive. Perhaps its just more just than the chicken feed that is handed out in the private sector especially in the so called "service" industries where people are treated like slaves. Alberta just announced a "two-tier" minimum wage. How fair is that?


sandyNB
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rotating strikes of one day and a delay in mail delivery....how will we even notice. The mail takes so long to get delivered now that it would be like trying to notice a particular grain of sand on the beach! package from HongKong took 2 days to Vancouver and then 4 weeks via CP to Saint John.


Mike
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I work for Canada Post, and I wish I can vote for the new offer. Its very hard to get in the post office, but once you do. Its really nice. ( 5 years to get full time)


JIM IN LONDON
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What a Joke. I sent a letter from London to Toronto EIGHT DAYS AGO, and it still has NOT been delivered (proper address & postal code). I could have WALKED TO TORONTO in eight days. SO anything the Union says about needing more money and benefits is nonsense. We don't get the service we expect now so I can't see paying MORE FOR LESS. Let them strike and stay out and let's just get private contractors who WANT TO WORK!!!!


akira
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Postal Workers.If you want a safer job then go find a new one. Do you know what a private in the forces gets paid??? $2663 wonderful before tax dollars per month.Those men and woman work harder and provide a service 10 times greater then delivering birthday cards, bills and wedding invatations.Plus your service sucks. I think the majority of the country thinks you should bepaid just over minimum wage, with no pension. Your job requries no formal education or traning.Your numbers are down 20% from 5 years ago. So lets cut your pay and benefits by 20% orcut20% of your staffing. You are no better than any other person so stop acting like your deserve more when you are in a failing industy.


Downtrodden in Alberta
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Wow! I make 36 dollars an hour for an 8 hour day. In that time, I do about an hours worth of paper work, about 4 hours of Facebook and then have coffee until I can go home. Maybe I should go on strike too as I only get 6 weeks of paid vacation a year. Hmmmmm.....


cis in dublin shore
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In our area they already are payed 10$ an hour more than the average wage and is very high for a non professional job seems to me that e-mail and couriers are hurting threatening there jobs. And there worried, that's to bad .


Bob
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Get ready, people. At midnight, we'll again be held hostage, by our wonderful, but so-hard-done-by(the poor little darlings), postal 'workers'(& I use that term VERY loosely)! $23/hour to start, plus benefits most of the country can only dream about, but heaven forbid they give a little bit. Typical 'I'm alright, Jack' union attitude. Only in freakin' Canada!


Evil von Scarry
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Unions have always been an easy target.And historically this kind of thing goes back hundreds of years back to the Trade Guilds and Merchant Guilds in Medieval times! Notice the first thing everyone bitches about is how much they get paid. Its really unfortunate that people are that way, people ( and its that infighting amongst regular people that always keeps regular folks down) always try to tear down those who are doing well. Really sad is that the "middle class" worker is being eroded and soon the only thing left will be minimum wage jobs while the fat cats laugh all the way to the bank. Make no mistake this is a class war and the elites know damned well that any threat to their status has always come from the middle never the bottom, history proves that time and again. It's the big race to the bottom for all of our living standards and wages, you dont see any CEO's or politicians taking pay cuts but time and again these big companies are reporting record profits and bonuses paid to their top brass even when they are laying people off or making them take pay cuts or work with less safety standards. For the record Im a non unionized worker but my situation is different and work with a small group, so we dont need one. But my hats off to the posties as this strike is not about wages (notice how the papers rarely ever mention that) but safety and other concerns. -Evil von Scarry (evilvonscarry.blogspot.com)


John NB
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To answer the postal worker I would love to come and work for Canada Post and matter a fact I have put my application there 17 times but i have no family member to slide me in there.Where in the world can you work 5 hours and get paid for 8 and on top of all get day off with pay for your birthday and right to refuse snow is to deep it's to icy dog is to big etc.People please you are getting 27$ per hour look arround and see how rest of Canada does?


Unbelievable - Ottawa
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The Canada Postal Workers and their Union should be ashamed of themselves..just listening on a local radio station they have raised $100,000. to buy meat for the needy who depend on the Food Bank. Pretty sure with the salaries the Canada Post workers are making they certainly don't do without "meat" ..shame on you...those who depend on the Food Banks often wonder where their next bite will come from. Are you in the same boat??? Most are proud of their jobs and bottom line is to even have a job...


John
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The union is putting another nail in it's coffin! This will force even more buisness's to do even more things using electronics. Even the fed's send pensioners their cheques electronically! Is that because they don't trust Canada Post? mmmmmmm
Stupid Union's !!!


Pinky
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I am a postal contractor. I go into the post office every day to pick up mail for large companies. I see a lot of lazy posties, complaining about everything. The newer temps have a lot more respect for their jobs then the older ones, and they do not get all the benefits the older posties get. I have been made to understand that the Canada Postal Workers cannot be laid off like their US counterparts. I can tell you for sure, that mail has decreased substantually in the last 15 years and the service has also gotten substantually worse as well. The only reason most of the posties still have jobs is because the union protects them. No other business would put up with their nonsense. In my view, the newer posties have a much better work ethic then the older ones do. I don't blame CPC for wanting to hire only temps, and part timers.


gary beaupre
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Greedy people , replace them all with us unemployed and willing to work for far less !


Mike
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I bet if Canadian Union of Postal Workers chief negotiator Denis Lemelin's pay stopped during the strike there would be a settlement real fast.


Strike Yourself Out of A Job!
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@ "union worker" and others commenting that everyone who thinks CP employees are paid too much are just jealous and should get off their butt and "go get a union job"...how about this? The CP employees who don't think CP is treating them well enough can get off THEIR butts and just go get a DIFFERENT union job...after all, those high paying, benefit-heavy jobs are just SO EASY to come by, right???? Right??? Yeah...that's what I thought. CP employees - get with reality. I think CP's offer is going to look pretty good compared to having NO job, which is what is going to happen to a lot of them because of all the customers who will not be back after the strike. I'm one of them.


Helen Martin
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Before you start pushing super boxes, bear in mind that the baby boomers are turning into seniors as we speak. I doubt everyone will be in good physical condition to trot over to these boxes in the dead of winter. Here in Montreal, the sidewalks in winter are not properly maintained and I for one do not want to break a bone just to pick up my mail!


J.C.
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What bothers me the most about these strikes is that it is usually the union heads themselves that decide on the offers rather than putting it to a vote of the members. How many of the members would have accepted the latest offer from CP? Can't always blame the workers themselves as they do not always get to input what they want which in my opinion is ridiculous since they are the ones paying into the union in the first place. They pay the union bosses salary but get no say unless he wants to give them some!! To me this is not collective bargaining as it only represents what the union heads want and not necessarily the majority of postal workers.


Martimer in Calgary
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I am neither ideologically pro or con union. Quite frankly, in a multinational and globalized economy, how much power does a national union continue to have on the world stage? It is a simple fact that the ideology of the 1930's, which spawned the political power of unions, simply does not exist and has not existed for many decades now. Socialism vs capitalism is now an irrelevant dichotomy. If unions wished to be relevant, they better learn how to organize themselves on a global scale just as corporations have done. If unions wish to organize globally...they have a lot of catching up to do. Perhaps it is far too late?




christine mccoll
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I work as a cca I get hit(sometimes with canes),kicked, verbally abused and am responsible in assissting in people activities of daily living including bathing,changing, feedingand end of life care.I paid 7,000 dollars to go to school and make 14.78 for a goverment regulated job I work holidays and weekends and dont get dental benefits so tell me how postal workers job is more dangerous and more valuable as a service that they need even more money and perks!


Debbie
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Unions do have a value in that they can fight for fair wages for the job performed, job security, and safe working conditions but they need to be reasonable in their demands and consider the current economic climate. I thnk anyone with a decent wage, benefits and pension should think twice before heading for the picket line these days.


don.h
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time for more super mail boxes and faze out the home delivery. it will get people out of the house for a little excersise, and get the postal union out of our pockets.


Lorna
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Hey union worker, it is you and your union that have your head stuck up your butt. In case you did not know it this is not the time to demand more and more as Canada along with the rest of the world is struggling with a recession. Also, would you mind telling the rest of us non union people that you feel have our heads stuck in our butts why you union works feel you deserve so much more then non union workers. I would love to hear this fairy tale.


Think People
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I understand most residential people don't get much mail and they don't care anymore. But there is no service offered by Fed Ex or anyone that can make my company send a payment for something to someone in another province for 60 cents. It's businesses that use them. Also I sent out 150 wedding invatations by regular mail for 60 cents each. How would I do that otherwise. A crappy email.....


Doug
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This is a small issue. No one needs Canada Post anymore so they cannot hurt those they are paid to serve in yet another strike.The big picture is health care and education. No amount of money is enough for them and we will continue to pay whatever they want or they will not provide services.Hey hey, ho ho!


Content Until We Compare
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suggesting the public phone the Crown corporation ? What? Next you'll want us taking a shift on the picket lines. Get a brain. How about we express our position on an equal basis and overload the union website, and jam the union office phone lines? This week I'm focusing on ending world poverty. Fight your own battle.


wake up dum people
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This strike is about worker safety, before you add a comment know the facts, these people are exercising their democratic write to have a safe work place, thankfully we live in free country.


Mike in Pembroke
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@ Sue, that is the problem, YOU GO WITH THE FLOW. Maybe if enough of you union employs stood up and said NO strike to the union bosses who still get their big pay cheques even when you are out on strike, then just maybe there would be more settlements and less strikes in this country.


Dave in Courtenay
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Postal workers may or may not have an appropriate pay scale, but the real problem is that there are too many of them. Why do we still have door-to-door mail delivery? We have had an area mai keybox for over twelve years. It is secure and eliminates the bodily stress and injury threat of lugging heavy mail sacks through all kinds of weather. One person sorts and transfers mail directly from car to each personal box. Fast and efficient!


nadine
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Who needs mail everyday? If letter mail was every 2nd day, would anyone care? A lot of people say they don't want any mail (myself included) but businesses and less internet savvy people still rely on the post. If volume has decreased 17% then start by eliminating 1 day a week and go from there. You'd have to hire 20% less carriers so you can pay them the inflated salary they feel entitled to. Phew, that was hard. I mean ridiculously easy.


wabaam
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Lazy. Lazy, immature, greedy, and overall an embarrassment to our country. If you want more money, work for it. If you aren't getting it, find a new job - and if you can't, be thankful for the good pay you're getting. Dangerous things happen when employees become the boss, unions should have stayed in the 19th and 20th century when there was a purpose to them. Horrendous working conditions are controlled by the federal government, all unions serve to do now is line the pockets of the higher-ups and act like a raging loose circus elephant. Eventually, that elephant will get shot.


Marg
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My starting wage as a new grad with a 4 year university degree was $13 per hour in 2008. I was not overqualified, the job required university/college education. There were no benefits. I didn't complain. I was happy to get it as few companies wanted new grads. I would love $19 per hour too!


qaz
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Imagine, just needing to be able to walk(exercise)and read (daily living) and getting paid huge money , wait a minute my steps are more than 10inches, cant get delivery here ,
fire them all

hire people who appreciate how lucky they are


expaperboy
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How would any of you like to be confronted by a 100 pound German Sheppard smart enough to open a screen door on his own? Or maybe you would like to slip on a patch of ice and crack your head on a concrete driveway during a February night? I've had both of these happen to me when I was delivering papers as a kid.

Most of us work in a nice safe office, with plenty of people around if we get hurt. Mail carriers don't have that luxury. Remember that.


David
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It always amazes me that we see low income earners attacking unionists for making more money with possibly the same, and maybe less, credentials.All the while, the salaries sports figures make dwarf what many of us will make in a lifetime.CUPW are responsible for getting you your mail, they aren't responsible for getting you your burger, a coffee, or something in a store, readily available elsewhere. They are paid for taking that responsibility. They aren't handling ten packages like a courier, they are handling hundreds, possibly thousands depending on where they work. Police, firemen and many other workers who take tremendous responsibility in matters that affect our lives, they are usually underpaid. That's why there's unions. The poor do not profit from union bashing, only the rich do; please keep that in mind.


Dave
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It's unfathomable to me that unions still operate in this day and age. Shouldn't employees have the intelligence and fortitude to speak up for themselves if they are unhappy with their jobs? Personally I would be insulted to have someone do my negotiating for me. There is absolutley no need for unions in the world anymore.


J
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Many of us CUPW members want to vote and accept CPC's latest offer, but the union has not invited us to vote. We gave them a strike vote 2 months ago when the CPC offer has drastically changed since then.


Becks from Owen Sound
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I like my mailman, and those at our local post office. I don't know if they personally support this strike or not, but I do know I envy their jobs. My mailman told me that he starts work at 8 a.m. and is usually done by 1 p.m., sooner if he has somewhere he wants to be. He gets full benefits for his entire family on top of a wage that evidently starts at $23.00 an hour, all for 5 hours of work a day. It's no wonder the Postal Service never has job openings!


Tanja
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Small businesses rely on Canada Post for economical mailing. Something that would cost me $3.10 to mail with Canada Post costs $16.00 through the cheapest courier.

Canada Post is making money from the existence of the Internet because of small businesses having websites and doing mail order.

Employees do have it fairly good in this economy, having a pension plan and health plan is very good. As a small business we have to do our own, we also pay double in CPP contributions and when I work out my wages I make considerably less and work a lot harder.

Canada Post is needed I just wish they would hurry up and sort it out.


Trevor in the Hat
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He wants Canadians to exert pressure as well. Sure, I'll send an e-mail to my MP as soon as I finish typing this to implore him to work towards shutting down Canada Post and bringing in a private system that allows for competition and better prices. The cost to ship a parcel with Canada Post is just plain ridiculous and there is no reason I can think of for a letter across town to take 2 weeks to arrive.


the purple helmet
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It really amazing to read all these biased options, I am sure that 90% of the people who have posted there comment on here have no idea what the Job entails, or could physically do the job. Many years ago a Carrier would work 4-6 hours and paid for eight but this would not include taking your lunch break, coffee break or cutting across your customers Lawn. This was what most of the carriers were doing including using there own personal Cars and not being paid for it. $24 dollars an hour in nothing in todays economy they are not overpaid for the work that they have to do everyday. If Canada post wants to cut costs they should be cutting supervisor jobs they work maybe 3 hours a day. Itsastounding to think people would actually believe what Canada post is saying in the Media. The sick time, low starting wage and new technology are some of the key points why they have to decided to walk off the job. I encourage anyone to Visit www.cupw.com to see all the issues


Pamela
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Wow - a lot of judgement here.
Very few who commented here even know why they are going on strike. I listened yesterday and know they are not striking because of pay.
Stop making uneducated judgments people. You sound as uneducated as some of you are accusing them of being. I believe in their fight I only wish there was a better system then striking. That's what should be argued about across the board for every business.


GHW
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Privatize Canada Post! For every kilometer of road there are two kilometers of ditch. In the early 20th century private sector unions played an important role in creating the middle class, a vital component to our prosperous society. Some of these unions still perform a useful service today. Unions in the public sector however do not have the same checks and balances and many of these unions along with their loyal followers are well in the ditch. They are little more than legalized extortionists. It has nothing to do with what is fair, balanced and common sense. If they can do it, they will. I think it is long overdue to privatize Canada Post.


Dave
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Just a little bit of info, if you do not want junk mail and advertisements delivered to you . Just go down and tell the post office to stop those deliveries and they will stop delivering them.


shell
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I really think as well that they get paid very well for what they do...If a starting wage is almost 23/hr that is more that lab assistants get pd and they have gone to school for at least a year and have a completed grade 12. Also that is close to my wage and I have a two year diploma in health sciences. The times are changing and we are heading into a era of e-mail and internet shipping with other shipping companies. If the corporation has to make cuts to survive than so be it but do not put the public in the middle of the bargaining we are not a bargaining chip


dana
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where all this hate against Canada Post employees came from?We all have right to strike if we need to be heard, that is what democracy is. If we all just shut up and work for peanuts , we are no more than slaves.


Jeremy
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At my place of business, we rely on the post to deliver our invoices to our customers and our payments to our vendors. Looking at it, it's actually cheaper for us to fax/email our invoices and send electronic payments to our vendors. Thanks CUP-W for helping small business, that's just what the economy needs!


TANIA
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Gone are the days of the "union" they worked well for the 1940's era however I believe as time has past we have evolved into a more respectable country in comparison. So I say abolish the Unions, they seem to be making things more complex for the country and a less friendly work environments all for what lining their pockets with union fees between strikes. It's 2011, no employer/companies can get away with reverting back to work ways of the 1940s so why are regulating unions from that era still in place, for what purpose? unions are like bullies, they dictate what you do and when, they keep the lazy worker in place forever all while they take the milk money from the good guys. This just shouldn't be tolerated any longer in the new world.


Alan
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When I was 18 and going to school, I had to join a large union in my summer job. I went to one of their meetings and what I saw has been lifelong for me.Basically the union mgmt really orchestrated the meeting and there were major contracts coming up at the time and almost on cue they whipped up the members in a frenzy until they secured what they were looking for. If someone objected they were ruled out of order. It was totally paternalistic. Through my career I kept that thought in all my dealings with the unions during that time and it has not changed today now that I am retired. Union mgmt can completely lose perspective and they become personal ego trips that usually wind up in adversarial situations.And so I do feel badly for the individual members when you are stuck in a rut woth old school leadership.


Thunder Bay all the way
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I don't think the staggered strike action is going to have the desired effect. Yes, our mail will be delayed by this. But Canadians are already quite accustomed to their mail delivery being painfully slow (hence the term 'snail mail'). I'm sure the choice was made, in part, to appease the public outcry that a full fledged strike would cause. But if you read most of the comments already posted here, the public already seems to be quite irate.


richard
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Canada Post and CUPW should realize that this thing (strike) will just force customers to look for other options and if that works out for them the postal business will suffer and of course the employees will suffer as well. Stop looking out for short term benefits and focus your attention on long term instead. Strike should be the last option not first. Or better yet, strike should never be an option.


Tom
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I think people have forgotten all the good unions have done for the working class.We should thank them.They are the people who brought us the weekend.


Samantha
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To whoever said that 23$ is hardly enough to get by on, are you for real? What world do you live in? Please explain to me then how EVERYONE I KNOW makes far less than that, yet all have a pretty decent quality of life. Its called living within your means. Stop being GREEDY Canada Post! No support, what so ever. I cant wait to see CanadaPost tank because of the union's greed and selfishness.


Cameron
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This is a great opportunity for Mr. Harper to finally deal with this already well overstuffed postal situation! All this strike is going to do is awaken the sleeping giant. Guaranteed wages, guaranteed pensions, guaranteed working conditions, give us a break! Why should the government guarantee anything, especially with a 17% drop in business! Should be cutting wages and laying people off like everyone else had to do during these slower times! The private sector will do a much better job of this at less than half the price. Tax payers do not need to support this non-sense any longer...


David
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For each person at Canada Post, there are 4 people that would be happy to work at that wage. The reason internet and courior companies are stealing there business...they do a cheaper and faster more dependable service.


rb
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i have had enough of their whining and complaining, it seems like every few years they threaten strike due to money concerns, im sorry your job is not that hard, aznd im sorry your 23.00/hr for carrying a letter is a little too high, I suggest you all take a pay cut and shut up


Monique
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Reply to Lauire in Moose Jaw: Wow, it's very easy coming from someone who doesn't work for Canada Post. You only hear what the news tells you. Fire them all? You think every postal worker wants to go on strike? I doubt that. Far overpaid? Lets see you walk around in -40 weather in the winter and not complain. Unless you work for Canada Post, you know nothing. Thanks.


RK
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I have to say, I do appreciate the fact that they are rotating the striking, so as not to completely shut down the postal system… which is good for small businesses and those who depend on things coming through the mail. A couple things struck me as odd in the article: 1) They are walking off the job at midnight – since when do CP employees work the weekend? 2) I didn’t think they worked Mondays or Fridays either for that matter based on the fact I only ever seem to get (junk) mail on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, or Thursdays? Seriously, I am not poking fun.


Jayne
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I don't see why they deserve more money. Our current letter carrier is incompetent, I get my neighbours mail in my mail box, which I deliver to my neighbour. I wish the same consideration would be afforded to my mail that ends up in the wrong box. No use complaining nothing is done. Where is my mail? Who knows....
Do your job right and maybe there might be some support from me...currently no....pay increases for the job-to-date not deserved.


Dave
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The service quality has been dropping recently, parcel lost or miss-delivered (had recently a parcel dropout at the door and the other people opened it). Is that the management or the workers?


Sangita
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Its nothing but sheer greed! And the union president has the audacity to tell Canadians to "exert pressure"? Ridiculous!!It's time everyone switched to e-billing and e-banking - it will save paper, save the environment and above all Canadians would not be held hostage to greedy demands!!


postal worker
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Maybe all the people that have made rude comments about postal workers should go and work for Canada Post for just one week and see what our fight is really about. It's not about the money but about the working conditions and the claw backs Canada Post wants to make. We have fought long and hard for what we have and I don't think they should just be able to take it away.I have been with the Corporation for over 35 years and have always loved my job but now I can't wait to retire and get the hell out of there. I feel sorry for people just starting out as they will never make as long as I have if the Corporation gets its way


Bill in Calgary
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And you can find other work with pay and perks like this where?


Prof. Pye Chartt
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Imagined Caption: "What can I say, people? The only way we can leverage our position is to screw the public. That's how it works. We're talking about a union here, folks. Nobody gives a flying crap about what YOU think. Suck it up! Now do you understand my offensive glibness?" -- CUPW Chief Negotiator, Denis Lemelin


Andre Bordeleau
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If you think I would offer to help by calling the government on your behalf you are dead wrong, at what you are already paid I would ask for a job, but working with lazy over paid people like you....never. for years the service ( if it can be called that ) has been less then stellar, bad and negative attitude from counter staff and had to fight a few times when I had packes broken and even stolen from C.P, with proof and they did nothing to rectefy the situation, All I am willing to do for you is PRIVATISE the postal system. your strike is hurting me, the economy and many others, greedy bastards.


MD
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OK all you postal workers lets all stand together put our feet together close your eyes and tap your shoes three times and say " I want to go home " . Get away from your fairy land dream and wake up to the times. Ask yourselves do I treat the sick everyday, do I battle a burning fire everyday, do I look at death everyday on the job with criminals. Why in the world do you deserve a job for life and outrages wages for delivering mail and sorting mail. You want the pay then become a front line worker and work your rear end off, earn your money the hard way.


Cardinal Guy
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Canada Post workers have 2 major problems - they are out of touch with economic reality. We (Canadians) can not support a postal system that is bloated with people who have an unreal sense of entitlement working for a union that has no real interest in their welfare, other than ensuring that their members make their annual dues. I have to agree that this "strike" may have Canadians realize that our current postal system is much less relevant than we are led to believe.


Northern Living
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Canada Post is the only service we get in Northern SK. We're ina remote community and rely heavily on Canada Post. We pay for it. They are more expensive than other services, but no one else operates up here. This strike will be a huge set back for us.


Hoping for the best
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I think that people would fins that most Canada Post employees who are members of the CUPW union do appreciate their jobs and the benefits they enjoy. When they are hired they become a member of CUPW, there really isn't much choice it's part of the employment. Basing opinions on the hard, dedicated people who are doing their best to serve Canadians on what the leaders of CUPW are doing is wrong. Ask your local postal worker what they think. I think you will find most of them do not like what is going on anymore that the rest of us and would be happy to accept the offer that is out there. I feel bad for what the average CPC employee is enduring with all this and hope for their sake, their families sake and the rest of us average Canadians who rely on mail service in any capacity that the leadership of these two groups find resolution soon. No, I do not work for Canada Post and I never have. Good luck Posties!


Kay Jay
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I'm a Canadian living in the UK and working for the Royal Mail. I've been working for them for over 12 years. When I did the conversion, I calculated that I (and my co-workers) are making the equivalent of $15.50 an hour!
I'm sorry - you get no support from me on the starters pay issue. Canada Post workers, you're obviously totally unaware of how lucky you are!


Richard D.
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My carrier cuts across my lawn (and my neighbors) every day. Even if there is a foot of snow, across he goes. However, He will not walk 15 feet to my box if my walk isn't shoveled. I dare not tell him to not cross my lawn or I may not get mail at all in the winter.
My place is across the alley from the post office. I see the carriers get picked up and dropped off by taxi's every day, at the post office expense. They don't even have to get to their routes on their own! No wonder the other workers complain about the posties. Fire them and get some of the unemployed to do the job. They would be grateful and the service might improve.


Shaun in Ontario
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As a non-unionized, third-party contracted municipal bylaw enforcement officer I walk on average 10-12 miles every day through rain, snow and feet-blistering temperatures all year round. I make $12.75/hr. with no benefits or sick time. If I don't work...I don't get paid - period. I love the work...I've been at it nearly five years. But listening to these gallingly pathetic postal people bitch and moan about their perceived grievances makes me want to smack someone upside the head. They should consider themselves extremely lucky to have a job that requires very little education or skills and provides them with a higher than average pay and benefit package. They need a reality check - that there are many others of us out there working far more difficult jobs for much lower pay and no benefits (and before anyone leaps to the assumption...yes, I'm college educated and work the bylaw job thanks to my ex-military background). As many have already said - unions once served a useful purpose and helped achieved better working conditions for people. But that was the past. Today's reality is greed at the expense of everyone else. And look where it's gotten the unions. Our manufacturing sector can no longer compete on the world stage due to exorbitantly high wages, benefits and retirement packages for unionized employees. Bail-outs of unionized companies are becoming commonplace across the nation. Manuacturing jobs have evaporated and moved elsewhere. WHEN ARE PEOPLE GOING TO WAKE UP TO THESE FACTS?


Syl
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Postal workers should be legislated back to work NOW. Not next week or tomorrow but NOW.


Sherry Wyse
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I am actively looking for a job and it makes me sick that these guys - certainly making over $20/hr with fantastic benefits - are complaining when all I'm being offered is minimum wage. How dare they................


Annoyed author
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I can't understand how it's legal to hold our mail hostage for monetary gain. My pay cheques come from the US and UK and I don't have the option for automatic bank deposits. While my husband's pay sustains us, I know an author who is the breadwinner of his family and can only get his cheque from Amazon by mail. Very selfish of these Canada Post people.


Deborah
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Many postal workers do value their jobs and consider themselves fortunate. Many are upset at not being given an opportunity to vote on the more recent contract offers.
The original strike vote was almost 3 months ago, and was not represented accurately by union leadership.


Bob
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I know a postal worker sorting mail who today has 1 cottage , 2 cars , 1 4x4, 1 $90,000 sports car, vacations galore, a fully paid house and the list continues. I'm sorry but you all have been milking the cow to long and your time is up. I have friends working 3 jobs do not even come close to having all this. I hope you all lose your jobs and get replaced by people that need to work to feed their family unlike you greedy selfish brats. Wake up from your fairy land dream of $30 hr wages to start. You want to compare yourselves to front line medical workers, police, fire, disgusting is the only word the end my comment.


M23
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I was in a Canada Post office yesterday to ask for help regarding online shipping tools. The Canada Post Clerk said they didn't care to help me, and then accused me of taking away their job. I responded saying that as a customer, online shipping tools are more convenient for me, and for Canada Post, as a business, its more efficient. They said they didn't care, and again accused me of taking their job away. In any other line of work, a customer service employee with this attitude would lose their job, and rightfully so. It's clear that this person was more concerned about job security than doing his job, and helping the customer, the person who wants to give money to Canada Post. What a frusterating experience, and what interesting timing as well. This has definately influenced me to look poorly on Canada Post's union in regards to the strike.


Lauire in Moose Jaw
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It is amazing that the postal workers don't appreciate their job and the rate of pay they get. A lot of comments talk about university education; well you can have a grade 8 education and do just fine as a postal worker. The postal workers are far overpaid for what they do and the skills required for the job. The military, police, firefighters and EMS need far greater skills, better educaiton and work far harder than these lazy sots. If they don't like the "easy street" they are on now, let them try getting a job elsewhere and see if they could come up with even half of the pay and benefits they get now. Lock them out, fire them all and hire people who want to work!


Keith
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Time for change, end the greed. Do away with Canada Post...who do they think they are anyway. No more letters for me...let my box fill with the junk mail..hey maybe this will end the junk mail afterall. DHL and Purolator would love the business


Angela in St.Thomas
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Simply put; Canada Post employees should just be greatful they have a job to go to in this economy. If they considered the alternative a bit more closely, would they be striking right now? Shame on all of you!


Sue
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I am a union member. I work and try to do my best. I have off an on days just like everyone else. I went to school ... for a long time and deserve the pay I make. I don't always agree with my union's point of view but I make the decision to go with the flow. I have good benefits and a good pay. I don't agree with their demand but I am sure they won't agree with mine either. Don't put everyone in the same boat. Some union members are good workers.


Julia
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This union is doing a dis-service to it's members. They have completely mis-read the economic times and the public sentiment.


bill
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well, after watching Denis Lemelin make his speech i can see why this union thinks it needs more and more. did cp employees really apoint this jackass to represent them?


Oliver in Manotick
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Looks like Lemelin got his wish. If this forum is any indication, Canadians are exerting the pressure he called for. Right in his face! Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.This strike will be enough incentive for the public to now permanently find other ways of delivering their parcels and messages. Maybe a better service will come from it all.


Baffled
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If the postal workers don't like their $23/hour jobs, that include a pension plan, they are welcome to quit. There are lots of people who need jobs and would gladly take their spot. I think that the union is looking for a way to convince their members that their dues are paying for a needed service, and not looking out for their members. The general public isn't the only one hurt in a strike, add in the businesses that depend on CP, and unless the union is paying for its members lost wages, the postal workers will be hurt too.They have been "negotiating" for over 6 months, and haven't met an agreement. In the "real" business world, the ones doing the negotiating would have been fired long ago.Good job union heads, you just hurt EVERYONE, except yourselves.


Don13
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For the most part, unions - and particularly CUPW - have outlived their usefulness. My wife is a nurse, and even with numerous specialty course credits to her name, is making not much more in salary than the overpaid and (in many cases) under-educated postal workers.It is about time that the unions face up to the fact that we live in the 21st century, not the 19th. To CUPW workers I say, be thankful you have a job - thousands with just as much education do not.


art
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Had the misfortune to one day ask "how are you" of the person delivering our mail. After 5 minutes of how bad it is working at CP and how it has affected his health. I felt like asking why do you work for CP? I didn't since the answer was apparent this person couldn't get or keep a job elsewhere - given his attitude towards his work. In a job where there is no judgement or skill at all required I suspect that this is what you get. I would rather get a reduction in taxes and pick up my mail at a box within walking distance rather than give a raise to someone not adding value to the service. Let's look for alternatives not just feeding more money to the system. Delivering mail is just not a $50K a year job.


Jim Lad
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The right to strike should have been abolished years ago.It shows a lack of intelligence, a lack of respect for your employers, your union members and the paying customers.


Tom Jones
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There is no pressure. Everyone has already moved parcel shipments to UPS, Fedex, Purolator, etc. All bills are paid electronically. Maybe a lockout without pay will help them realize what they have.


Zanny
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I need clarification [please :)

is it ALL of their employees across the country that are ion strike? or only in certain cities? and are the canadian postal workers in montreal on strike as well or not? and will we be getting the mail today and Monday?


union worker
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It is so easy for the public to judge!!! know your facts, you never know what it is like to walk in some elses shoes!! Stop judeing because you dont have a union job!! It is your choice what job you choose in life! Maybe the public should take a hard look at what the unions fought for for everyone not just unionized workers, pull your head out of your own butt!!


Lesley
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You know you may have shot yourselves in the foot here - you are probably pushing more and more people into internet transactions and steering away from the postal service anyway. What will you do when this happens!! more strikes - the people I talk to have no sympathy with you at all.


LJR
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Unions & Canada Post two dinosaurs in this new world ... this strike just hastening the demise of both. Time to privatize postal system and eliminate the inefficiencies of gov't bureaucracy and unions. The union's grievances are almost laughable ...... image not too many posties took 4 years from their working career & have university loans ... OK maybe a few who realized they could make more money with less stress, good pension, job security, benefits galore than they could with a university degree. Get real posties!


D
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It's nice to hear that I am not the only one who thinks Canada Post workers should shut up and get back to work. When winter 2010/2011 hit hard, these complainers refused to deliver because the city's plow drivers piled snow on the sidewalk. I would love to call my boss and say " Hey i'm not coming into work because there is snow on my sidewalk". Give me a break! Canada Post provides an essential service to this country. You want more money? Better Pensions? No kidding? Join the line!!!

I agree with some of the other commentators that we should dissovle Canada Post's monopoly on general mail delivery and open up to competition. There are ten thousand people willing to do the job for the wage and benefits that they currently get. Canada Post workers are very, very expendable.


Prof. Pye Chartt
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"Death Wish 2011: The Death Spiral of CUPW Begins. Coming to a community near you."


Melody in Calgary
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It drives me crazy when people say, "What's wrong with the postal workers wanting a higher standard of living? Shouldn't we *all* want a better life?" The problem is that it's the NON-union taxpayers who have to subsidize the outrageous perks and wages the Posties get. Their "better life" is off the backs of people like me, and that's not right.


scott ns
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I hope when they do come back they have less then they left with. Most Canadians would love to have their job and pay. Many people work harder in just as bad weather for a fraction of what they get and no benefits. Maybe if they suffer for a while they will understand how well they really got it.


Steve T
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With this latest strike (threat) I've switched exclusively to electronic billing. The Canada Post workers need a reality check!


Craig from NS
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A message to Mr. Lemelin;Unionist care about unionist. The rest of Canadians do not give a damn about your demands regarding higher wages and job security. We don't have it. Why should you? Your business is shrinking. In ten to twenty years it may be almost non-existent. Start looking beyond the end of your nose and get a reality check. If the comments on this site and others reflect the opinions of the majority of Canadians you are too much of an optimist.


Mark A
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fire them all the unemployed will gladly work for half of what they make now


Rob Calgary
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Unions are for alot of people who want a job to collect a wage and don't to put in a full eight hours of honest work and want to take advantage of their employers. Not all of the employees are like this but probably a good a half and maybe more. And then there is the union leaders well they collect union dues and thats about it, and try and save the jobs of employees that are about to get fired for not doing their jobs or some other stupid thing that they were not suppose to be doing. The hardship these poor postal workers and the unions have to go through I really wonder how they can survive compaired to the rest of us that put in a full days work and the self employed. Maybe we should all start a collection nation wide and help these poor people out. I am sorry to the postal worker that I parked my car in front of the mail boxes to get my mail and he had to walk an extra 15 feet the other day and told me not park directly in front of the mail boxes anymore. Even though he has been putting my mail in someone elses box but thats okay.


Lindsay - Pigeon Lake, AB
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Perhaps Canada Post employees should remember that in the age of electronic mail, automatic deposits and companies like UPS, Purolator and Fedex, there really is no need for them anymore..


Philip C. in Calgary
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It would be good if the postal union members read these comments and see how little support they have, but I doubt most of them can read anything longer than an address. Even that is in question, as I get mail addressed to my neighbour across the street and to a dead person who has not lived at my address for over 15 years. I will try to use short words in case any of them do read. We do not support you. To complain that your boss is trying to modernize your work place is a non-starter. We want more modern systems in place. Quit whining. Go back to work.


Dave
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I just read that Senior Canada Post employees receive SEVEN WEEKS of Vacation per year!!! Are you kidding me?! Does Canada Post not bench mark other salaries and benefits with other companies that do same or similar work. Lock them out! Do not allow this union to disrupt the flow of advertisements! As a University educated Canadian, I'm thinking I should have saved my money and invested in a $100 pair of runners! These guys are living in the 70's. In 10 years they will be wondering what happened!! After googling their existing contract of benefits and salaries I'm sickened!!


C.J.
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It is time to abolish unions. $23 per hour is not enough? Ridiculous to say the least. Another comment just heard on the news..."...have to be sick to claim sick days!" Well perish the thought.Unions are nothing less than greedy, disruptive and "self" serving only, detrimental to the economy.


Robert B
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The president of the union is running scared? Is he still going to get his big fat Cheque from his minions, while they are on strike? Fire them all, and lets have a new and efficient PO.


Impacted Small Business
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Why is their website down? I thought rolling strike was to hit Winnipeg only - with their site down, no small businesses are able to ship!!! What is going on with this??? Can the media get some answers so we know what to expect? Personal mail is a small amount of what this country relies on Canada Post to do - this strike is going to cripple small business and make consumers pay for the extra shipping costs. Why don't people get this?


Jeff Martin
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The postal workers get no sympathy here, at 23 dollars an hour as a starting wage, they can go jump in the lake. Aw... No wonder the government is in debt ! Poor things have to walk 8 miles a day. I cycle, run, work-out and then lift furniture all day for 15 dollars an hour. It would be great to have a cushy job and work for Canada post. Canada post workers need to take a look at what it's really like out there !

As far as I'm concerned, postal workers don't know what work is !


paul
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Whats with the rotating strikes? If you're going to strike, then strike. Do it like the Europeans and shut it down.


Denis
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We should make it illegal for any workers to make more than minimum wages ... and make it a crime for workers to get a pension. Why not throw them in jail for having more than 3 weeks holidays. That the country I wanna live in!


Lynn
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It is time the Government Legislates that ANY employee paid for through ANY source of public funding through tax payer dollars no longer has the right to strike.It is unfair for the Canadian taxpayer to suffer for something we pay for- period. We pay for a service- we provide above average incomes, for all kinds of Perks ( paid sick time, pensions, dental and enahnced medical benefits) that many of us ourselves don't have.To the postal workers, and anyone else making well above minimum wage with benefits: If you don't like what you have, if you feel overworked, if you aren't happy with your job than quit. Find a job somewhere else- the reality is that you won't - because despite all the whining and complaining you still realize you won't be able to find another job being paid as well, with the vacation time you have, as well as the other perks and benefits.The sense of entitlement makes me sick.


Korinne
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For all you uninformed complainers who said you'd work for "half their wages" go and apply, and let's see if you qualify and can get that great job. My guess is you wouldn't be qualified, or else, you be working for Canada Post already! Actually, anyone who would want to work for Canada Post should be supporting the Union, the Union who wants to ensure that FUTURE WORKERS get hired at a decent wage. For all you people who want to work for half their wage, but want to put down the Canadian Union of Postal Workers, go apply at McDonald's.


glenda
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The irony is that this strike is the catalyst prompting me to finally set up all my bill payments online (I'd hate to be late with a payment because of the strike). So the result of this strike action - even less business for a service that is already in decline. This strike is supremely ill-timed considering that the economy still extremely fragile. Union leaders seem to have absolutely no common sense.


Brittani
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As far as all the comments stating that no one needs postal workers anymore - am I the only one that shops online and gets things delivered anymore? I do all my banking, bill-paying, etc. online, but all my purchases come in the mail.


BryceA
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Just becasue your needed doesn't mean your important.

$23/hour starting wage? I now know where the government tuition/university grants and funds have gone; to pay uneducated highschool grads more.


TwoDogGuy
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"Neither rain, nor sleet, nor hail, shall keep the postal employee from delivering our mail." But a lack of empathy for the needs of their customers, and an really old fashioned bargaining system will. Lets change it!


Craig
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I dont understand why everyone compares their jobs to that of a postal worker. I've never been a postal worker, so I have no clue what is a fair wage.I do know I use Canada Post for more than 1000 packages a month and it has been wonderfully reliable. I wonder if paying workers $12/hr would change the reliability? I imagine it would.Canada Post is a profitable enterprise while paying these wages, so paying them shouldn't be an issue.A bigger issue in Canada is what CBC workers make, i.e. Don Cherry. The CBC is NOT a profitable enterprise and a lot of folks over there are making more than $23/hr.Perspective people.


arthur
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Most of these positions should be minimal wage.
Fire them all and re hire at a reasonable minimal wage.


Not about the money
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I'm sorry. To all of you who say we make enough. You haven't been paying attention. THIS IS NOT ABOUT MORE WAGES! This about KEEPING the BENEFITS and SICK LEAVE we have. NOT ASKING FOR MORE. Please at least learn what we are about. We need these things probably more than the average Canadian worker. We LIKE our jobs and the benefits is one of the reasons we put our bodies through the ringers for it. Without these benefits no one would be able to last in these positions. Which is probably why they want to lower the starting wage. They can just keep hiring new people paying them less. Mail delivery would always be handled well then.


Stewie
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23 per hour after taxes their left with about 2600 per month, subtract about 1400 per month for living accommodations & 500 for a vehicle your left with 700 per month for gas, food, clothing. Just saying 23 per hour barley makes ends meet these days. These people would never be able to own a home on 23 per hour, give them the raise they need. Harper gave all his team a raise & they don't do anything.


Beyond Depression
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Thes people working at Canada Post have no idea how good they have it. Being unemployed as long as I have been, I cannot believe how anyone could take a job like the one they have for granted. It gives me a headache just thinking about it. It makes me wonder why I can't even find a job but losers like this are allowed to live it up.


Shane Martell
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Some times people need to stand up for themselves to protect what they have worked hard for. This is the case with the postal workers of Canada. I hope for a quick resolution and a fair collective agreement for the workers.

Shane ILA Local 269
There Is Strength In Union


Rylee Chocolate
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As this country continues to evolve, the older generation who today relies on "snail mail" will continue drop off. Canada Post employees should be happy with what they have as their role in the future will continue to diminish. The only items I receive in the mail is advertisements, which I could do without. I can not get my head around these employees demanding salary and benefit increases. They are well paid for non educated positions! I would argue McDonalds and other fast food restaurants are paid 1/3 the salary and work 50% harder! Wake up unions and be extremely happy with what you have. I would lock them out and contract the work out! Our economy does not need to be dealing with these outrageous demands!


Cynthia
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Canada Post is the only courier of mail that will come up to northern committees in Manitoba. UPS and FedEx do not come past Thompson, so we hope the strike does not last for very long!!


Choked
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How about a little perspective here: I am a general contractor, and many of my trades are self employed business people with 10 years or more experience charging as little as $35 an hour. Off the top of their wages come expenses such as WCB, vehicle and fuel expenses, cell phone bills, internet costs, office expenses, POSTAL expenses, vehicle insurance, liability insurance; and other business expenses such as licensing and registration costs, accounting and book keeping, legal, etc. When they come home at night from working hard all day, they have to write up and mail invoices, do their daily book keeping, scheduling and order materials for the next day, and collect and pay GST on behalf of the government. All this, and no job security (other than what their hard work has produced in terms of their reputation), no pension to speak of, no EI to fall back on, no medical and dental plans, and NO pay when they are sick or take vacation! Yet THESE small businesses are the people that are contributing the most to the Canadian economy. Hmmmm...... do you think CUPW employees should take a reality check?


Dave
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How long did you go to college or university to drive around in a van dropping off packages, walking around delivering door to door??? I live in a small community and don't even get mail delivered to my house. 18,19 dollars an hour to start, I will happily do your job for that wage, I say close down Canada Post altogether and start a new company that will not have a union full of lazy crybabies getting protected for being useless. If they want to strike then I will have to find another way to get mail, and when I do, I won't be using Canada post any longer for anything. have fun working at walmart postal workers.


Liz
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There is 17% less volume going through Canada Post and yet the workers want an 11% pay increase.I'm a pensioner - please may I have an 11% increase?


Anne
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From what I have heard and read the unions biggest problem with this latest negotiation is the fact that new employees will make less than their counterparts.
I don't understand why this is such a problem. I many occupations you have to work your way up to top salary, you don't get it from day one.




davefromddo
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UPS and FedEx already have mailboxes around the city if you look hard enough. They should implement more of these boxes and start a true competition for letter mail service.

How much should really be earned by someone who walks the neighbourhood dropping envelopes in boxes? My job is much more stressful and I make probably less than half of what these clowns make...


Carol
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This strike is really going to affect us. My husbands retirement checks comes up from the States. One is direct deposited the other they won`t and it is the bigger one that we pay bills with. So now what....They shouldn`t be allowed to go on strike. I`msorry I think they make enough money now.


Theresa
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For the most part it's not the individual mail carriers who are going on strike as many of them are subcontracted. I know of some carriers that didn't want this strike as it does make things worse in the long run. On the other hand with a company as big as Canada Post I firmly believe there is mismanagement.

And why is it that it takes 4 weeks not days for a piece of government mail to get from Winnipeg to Steinbach (which is only a 1 hour drive)???? Shouldn't government mail take priority?

I have also recently been told that Manitoba's mail is being sorted in Saskatoon.....why is that?


Kevin in Edson
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Time to privatize the postal service. With electronic billing and payment, internet retailing using couriers, who here has sent a paper letter at all in the last 12 months? The rich pensions and benefits that posties receive will increasingly raise our taxes for a service that is largely used by junk mail !


Julian Bouchard
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These guys look like they're lucky to be in Canada Gainfully Employed !! Way to go, ride that pony!


tom91
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These postings represent the average joe's thoughts. And by the looks of it, it looks like there's little support for the CP strike. It is true that unions are outdated. The Union will do everything in it's power to stay alive because it itself is a big business and employs many high paid workers. Think of how many employees work for the union and actually never touch a piece of mail. Unions want more members because they want more union fees. But as soon as one individual worker has an issue, they try to shut them up because it costs money to get the union lawyer to do something about it. In order to stay relavant they need to brainwash the workforce into thinking they are underpaid, overworked, and taken advantage of.


URU
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Too many lazy Union employees trying to be part of an organization because they think its job safety for life. NO MORE Freebies on the backs of TAX PAYERS. DISMANTLE the Union and make those employees ACTUALLY work for their $$$ just like millions of hard working people. Laziness are the ones who don't want to go and get and education and make a life for themselves. Everyone needs to work in order to live the life style them dreamed of.


David Fraser Nanoose Bay BC
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I am not surprised with postal workers going on strike. They have always thought they have been mis-treated while in fact they have an excellent salary and good benefits. Their concern with losing their sick days in exchange for short term disability shows how greedy they are. The majority of employees in this country are covered with std and seem to manage quite well. The postal workers get no sympathy from me and given our current fragile economy they should be happy to even have a job, especialy a well paying one. Knowing how technology has affected Canada Post, you would think the union would work with management to cut costs. This short sightedness on the unions parrt will cost them more jobs in the future.


It's what it is
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@ MG... our postal workers are very well paid. They receive benefits better than most, and they have a great pension plan. Their allowable sick days number more than most people get. They receive an excellent paid holiday package. We all work to earn a living, and when our employers make a profit, we are doing the jobs we were paid to do. Postal employees are far from being "gouged". Canadians have been dolling out money to Canada Post for decades with little improvement (if any) in services. We are the one's being gouged. I have absolutely no sympathy for this outdated carrier service. They are not keeping up with technology or the times, and they are slowly phasing themselves out. For this they want to be rewarded? Our Unions have gone well beyond looking out for the rights of employees in this country. They have developed the "holier than though" attitude of the Unions in the U.S. and they only serve to breed whiners who feel that deserve more, and more, and more. Let them strike. Eventually someone will "cave" to the ridiculous demands, and once again the wrong will win.


50lb mail bag?
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I'm troubled by this 50lb mail bag claim. Is the mail bag 50lbs all day or does it go down as the mail is delivered? And is it really 50lbs or is it maybe 35lbs? 40lbs? 25lbs? If the premise for this labour action is that delivering mail in Cabbagetown is more dangerous than being a sapper in Kandahar, so posties need more sick time and better sick benefits, do we not deserve to know why it's taken 144 years for this to come to light?


Dave in Ottawa
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Bon voyage!Better check your return ticket, though!


Uni Student
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For a job that doesnt require any university education, these workers are asking for a lot!


kitlope
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Just like your job Life!!! Some foreigner/immigrant is wilingl to do YOUR job for half the money too! All of our jobs someone is willing to do it for half the money. I hope you lose your job Life!!! so you can put yourself into their shoes. Then when someone comes along thats willing to do it for half the money I can say "Well, this is what you wanted, isn't it"?


Russ
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Send in the arbitrator and stop this nonsense. Everyone is feeling the pinch and postal workers shouldn't be treated any differently. Be grateful you have a reason to get up in the morning and be thankful for the food on your table and the roof over your head. Most of all, be thankful you have a job.


John
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I am in full support. Just because these people have the will to ask for decent wages it makes them the bad guy? If you lack the spine to stand up for yourself to get better wages don't berate those that do. Also to the person using their father as a low wage earn and his being fine with it as proof that we all should follow suit: just because you dad is a bitch doesn't mean I have to be.


Dodo
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Let them go......Take U.S. and overseas mail to the U.S. It is half the price and twice as fast.Most people have direct deposit, internet banking or telephone banking.


CSam
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There had better not be any postal workers at any NHL games in September if they're all on strike!!!


AR Clerk
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The comments on here that CP is not needed and that it is a dying business are bothersome. I work as an accounts receivable clerk for a big company and we receive cheques in the mail every day, which are delivered to us by CP. Yes, people might say that there are other ways to send money, but what about small business owners? If they had to pay invoices via electronic funds transfer or pay for courier service to send a cheque, the fees for that would out weight the amount of the invoice. It would put them out of business. Sending something in the mail is inexpensive and there are people out there that rely on it! Just because YOU feel you don't need it... Doesn't mean that the rest of this country feels the same way. These people are fighting for what they think is fair and just. I would do the same thing if I was in that situation.


MG
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I am not a postal worker, but I have to say that find the vitriol against postal workers in these postings remarkable. Canada Post as I understand it has made profits every year for 16 years. Why should postal workers get gouged when the commpany keeps making money? I have met my mail carrier. He is a good guy and by all accounts does a good job. Why should he lose sick leave? So the CEO can make more money? Postal workers right now earn a living wage and get a pension. You’d think that was a crime based on the comments here.


Keith
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I have been a union worker for the last 10 years, and both of my parents have been in unions for most of their careers. What I have learned in that time is that, generally, unions penalize hard work and protect those who don't work at all.

I don't how many times I have busted my ass only to watch the guy right next to me, who's on Facebook all day, get the exact same wage increase that I do at the end of the year, and then to be told that I should consider how working so hard makes the rest of the people look.

If you aren't getting payed what you think you're worth and the company wont shell out more, get some education and find another job...trust me, they will find someone to replace you. If you want job security, good luck! The best anyone can do is work hard and make yourself indispensable.

Life is tough, there are no guarantees and nobody owes you anything, get over it and get back to work.


Gerry from MB.but not N.D.P.
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Unions are run by far left wing goons just like the the pig countrys in the E.U. and how is that working out.


Disgusted!
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They should be grateful that have a good paying job. I was just restructured/layed off work due to down sizing, and would love the opportunity to go back to work so if you don't want to work, let me know and I'll be there tomorrow! For those of you on strike, if you can't afford to live on the wage you are currently earning then stop living above your means and be grateful! Who do you think is footing the bill for pay increases!?! Perhaps the Government (i.e. tax payers)! The money has to come from somewhere! Maybe you would like for the Government to cut back education a little more or health care, so they can fund your Tim Hortons coffee fund!? If you are not happy with what your earning, then here is a word of advice.....FIND ANOTHER JOB!!

I have 0% sympathy for anyone going on strike!


Not impressed
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Perhaps all the CP workers would rather give up their jobs and go test their luck in the labour market? I am sure, given their lack of appreciation for their current employment, they would be hired on by numerous companies looking for unappreciative workers. I know countless people who would readily take a job at $18 an hour right now.


Original Canadien
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Hmmm. Let's see... 24 Hr rotating strikes so some areas will shut down for a day? it just means there will be a slight "delay" on normal delivery. Heck it already takes 4 days (yes 4) for XpressPost, not regular, from Montreal to Toronto. Either the union has forgotten what "striking" actually means or they are scared of annoying the public too much. I say lock them out now and let the couriers take over the business.My employer has already switched completely to couriers and elecronics methods so the effect will be negligeable at most.I feel sorry for the small business who depend on mailing their products. I hoep the couriers will give them favourable pricing...


All ears
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Setting up alternative ways to pay my suppliers and receive payments, you can be sure that I'm not ever going back to using mail once the new system is in place! This strike is really short sighted. Soon the only customer they will have left is the government, now there's tax money well spent.


Dave S Calgary
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These are hard times for everybody right now so you will be hard pressed to find any sympathy here for Postal workers and to all those that have said they have a hard job carring 50 lbs of mail through Rain,Snow well so what many Canadians have hard jobs without all the perks these jokers have got. Get back to work or i do hope that they lock you out. Nothing against the carriers it is the union, and you that defend the unions....YOU ARE THE PROBLEM


KAS
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I used to work for Canada Post, and there is no love lost between that corporation and me. They are not supportive of their employees, and seem to let crooked things happen to the little guys, like me. Didn't matter that I was supposed to be represented by Union - I got royally screwed. However, I am perturbed that the workers are asking for more money, as salaries are far better than having to rely on government disability. I think MORE workers might be a solution to employees being overworked, but not a raise in pay for current employees. Geez. Stop complaining. At least you're not living below the poverty line, as some of us are.


Michael
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Well people, you wonder why so many jobs are moving out of Canada, just look at the postal union. I'm sure if Canada Post could be relocated off shore it would be. The unions were needed years ago but they have become to powerful and are destroying this country with their demands then strikes when they do not get what they want. We have so many people looking for work it is time to scale back the unions powers and maybe even get rid of the unions all together.


Teresa
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If I went to my boss and said I want more money, and variance in tasks, when the company is losing millions a year (such as Canada Post) I'd be laughed out of the company.


Get back to work, and get real!


CherylK
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Well, it appears from the comments that the only people who are sympathetic to the postal workers are the postal workers! Unions were great when there were serious safety issues and abuse of power, but they have far outlived their usefulness. Lock them out, and let them reapply for their jobs, for less money!


Laura
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As a mother with only a part time job, who has been looking for full time employment for almost a year now, i would LOVE to have their job for even half of their salary! They are being so greedy and really need to stop and realize that they already have what MOST of us want, high paying jobs with benefits!!


Andre from Montreal
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I read all 8 comments made, and I agree with all of them! Abolish unions once and for all. It took me 9 months and over 125 CVs to find work; but they, the unionized workers, rave and rant about everything. Sympathy is out the window, and I don't care how many miles they do on foot, they chose this job, well, live with it or ship out!


Jay
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I say let them go on strike. Do we actually need them? We don't actually. Time for postal workers to be made aware that they are replacable... and there are people willing to do the same job for less.


Gisabun
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When i stop getting mail after 5pm and sometimes as late as 8:30pm then I'll pitty them.


Nadine
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This is so annoying. Our 19 year old son has been desperately looking for work for the past 4 months. He would gladly carry your mail. Get back to work and appreciate the fact that you have a good paying job!!


stuart
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I forgot to mention. When all the workers in the union vote for the strike, even though let's say 40% of the workers are AGAINST the strike, they have no choice but to strike. If they do not show up at the picket lines at their assigned times, they do not get paid their "union" salary. As well, when the "union salary fund" from the "pot" runs out during a strike, which could take a couple months, that is when the strikers get no pay. this scenario hardly happens as strikes dont usually or very rarely last that long. Remember also, that not all the workers are for this or any strike. it was the majority (>51%) of workers who voted to strike. I am sure there was a great percentage of workers who were happy with what they had. I am a friend of a postie and he told me that he is happy with what he has and is upset that they are striking. All these details i know are from the union in monteal my wife used to belong too while working at her last job.


Dave in F'ton
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Eighteen dollars an hour starting wages? Why the heck did I bother going to college?


Alan
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This is sheer stupidity by both parties. The expression Team Post Office sure does not apply.Why the union and management are not working together to develop a vision for the post office, I just don't understand. Yes the internet is here but newspapers have also been hit by a decline in circulation. Where is the creativity. Right now the postal carriers are the only ones that go door to door. Is this something totally outmoded or is there something else they could do in providing this daily service. A rotating strike? It may as well be a full strike, cut the charade.I don't care what kind of conditions the carriers work in and I don't care that mail is down 17%. Get over it and quit hanging your laundry out in public because the public sentiment very quickly becomes I don't care one whit about The Post Office, I don't need it.. They missed a golden opportunity for new days at CPC with a new CEO, too bad .I could have pictured a campaign centred around "Your Canada Post" that perhaps proclaimed where they are going and how they would be a service for all Canadians. They wouldn't be the first company to reinvent themselves.


Marc
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Time to fire them all and get a system like the USPS in place. Let's make it happen. And just for fun, no former Canada Post employees would be allowed to be hired. They think that life should be fair? Time for those adult babies to learn life doesn't work that way.


Mike
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Unions the voice of the few......Postal Workers..........Fire them all!Remember Ronald Regan and Air traffic controllers???, call their bluff, replace, save and inspire!Live for today, in the moment, that's all you have!Enjoy what you have not what you have not!Health, family and friends are everything4 the Record..... I am a guy who runs a a small business, works 6 days a week, 10 to 14 hours a day, no health care, no sick days and no paid vacation! Not making millions, however i am happy and enjoy each day........Life is What you Make It, Attitude goes along way.....


akira
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I think we should take away all of their pensions and cut their benefits in half. Why do they deserve them and not everyone else??The service they provide is just awful. It took 35 days for a letter from a family to travel from Calgary to Toronto.


YES...NO JUNK MAIL
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I live in a small town with central mail delivery. We have a 55 gallon near the gazebo where most of the mail boxes are situated. It takes maybe a week to fill this 55 gallon drum with junk mail from our mail boxes. Aside from a letter from Capital One telling me they've bought out HBC's credit division, I have received nothing important in the mail this week. It's usually always flyers and leaflets. Everything important is done electronically. So why are they striking? Sick benefits? Here's something that will make you sick...YOU"RE NOT NEEDED.


Dave
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All these negative comments, I think we should sympathise with these (poor) strikers. It is not easy being on strike, because they don't get paid-so that means may of (them) will have to scrap off from our hard earned savings.


Harold
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There are 340,000 US postal workers who deliver on Saturdays also - that would be like us having 34,000 not 50,000 delivering the mail on Saturdays also, getting the job done and mail on time... are you sure we overwork our postal workers?


URU
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Next up on Ford's list is to dismantle the Postal Union. Get rid of all the unions as they are nothing but use it to their advantages. No more protecting the Union and get people really working for the public. Not many lazy workers are part of the Union (s).


Bob M
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Let the Posties stay out. In these harsh times, let them face the realities. Strike and them lose more jobs as we, the people, seek out other avenues to do our business.


Dan
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This is just another nail in Canada Posts coffin.....I use Internet banking, E-Bills, Direct Deposit, Couriers, faxes,etc. more every day....and every time Canada Post goes on strike, it just makes even more people switch to electronic means. The Postal Workers going on strike is a disgrace and they should be ashamed. I'm tired of having peoples lives disrupted by whining Union babies that can't see the real world. Grow up already!


stuart
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I keep seeing comments about letting them strike so they can see how its like to be unemployed and not paid. My wife use to be in a union here in montreal. When being part of a union, you have to pay union dues from your salary. Usually about 50$ per pay. She went through a weeks strike at one point. I dont think that some people realize, that when workers strike, those union dues that they pay on every paycheck, actually a pecentage of that pay their salary while they are on strike. So the "strikers" are not losing any wages. Dont be fooled by the hidden fact that they are being paid.




Life!!!
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WOW!!! Fire them all. after all they can't be that hard to replace. Bunch of spoiled brats.I'm sure there are people would do thier jobs for half thier salaries and benifts.




TGReaper
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Time for a " lock out " Canada post is at best only a convenience anymore and should not be blackmailed be a union that should not exist.Public sector unions do not have the built in checks and balances that private sector unions have and should not have the power to the people of Canada to ransom.TGR


britain
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It's time to get rid of unionized workers. All they do is complain complain complain and ask unreasonable demands. Get real people! Think about those who are looking for work! I hope everything gets privatized so silence these kind of workers.


Anonymous Coward
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Canada post website looks down this morning. Hackers???


Ian
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The Postal workers have now set the stage for a potentially long strike unless Ottawa steps in. Let them stay out for awhile and get a feeling what it is like to be unemployed like thousands of normal Canadian people who would love such a job at a lower wage than what is being paid today. I agree that small business will suffer, however I am sure thay with some ingenuity, a lot of the hurdles or obstacles may be overcome. For International shipments, use the US Postal system as they are far more efficient than ours and if you say it costs money to drive there, you write it off as an expense as a legitimate business. It is time that this service be put back in line with today's economic situation.


Blake
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Well, time to start marking parcels as GIFT and also marking the value of an item at $10 when shipping with UPS and FedEx...


jean-sans-peur
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When Postal and City workers begin making more money then Firefighters... We have reached a new pathetic low in this Country. My Dad has made less than $20 for 40 years. Never complained. Just busted his ass, supported three kids, seven nieces and nephews and raised a son who understands the value of hard work. I'm happy I have a job, and that may be close minded, but there's a lot of people out there who don't... Suck it up, man up, get back to work.


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