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Chinese government workers allegedly hacked into the House of Commons computer system targeting MPs with large ethnic Chinese constituencies. Hacking

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Date: Thu. Feb. 17 2011 10:18 PM ET

Chinese hackers not only attacked key federal departments: they also cracked into the computer system of the House of Commons, targeting MPs with large ethnic Chinese constituencies, CTV News has learned.

Sources say Canada's secret cyber spy agency -- the Communications Security Establishment -- tracked the hacking operation to the Chinese embassy in Ottawa and to computer servers in Beijing.

Toronto MP Derek Lee said Canada needs to show it's capable of fighting back.

"It's unacceptable and I think we should hold out some threat -- a counter-strike threat," he said.

But Canada might be falling behind when it comes to defending -- and retaliating -- against such attacks. Britain spends $1 billion on cyber security and the United States $55 billion, while Canada has a budget of $90 million.

Meanwhile, security experts say the Chinese hackers who have targeted Canadian government computers are just the latest in a wave of cyberspace spies, and Ottawa needs to bolster our online defences.

John Thompson, president of the Toronto-based Mackenzie Institute, said the Chinese use hackers to systematically sift through countries' economic, political and military databases.

"It's got whole regiments in its military of hackers. You're not talking about someone in an Internet café running off a laptop," he told CTV's Power Play. "You're talking about hundreds of dedicated people who are as well-trained as a hacker to be in systemic attempts to probe government computers, corporate computers all over the world."

Thompson said Chinese hackers have hacked, or tried to hack into the systems of dozens of governments and major corporations around the world.

"They've penetrated computers in a number of governments over the last few years and made attempts on many more," he said. "It's not just the government, it's every Canadian corporation, every Canadian businessman who deals with China."

He said the latest Chinese cyber attack should sound a warning bell in Ottawa that federal government computers need to beef up their security.

"We need to really improve our defences. This is the A-Team as far as cybernetic intelligence gathering is concerned and we need to develop our defences and countermeasures accordingly."

Dragos Ruiu, a computer security consultant, said the Chinese hackers prey on the weakest link in any computer security system: the users.

"It boils down to human involvement: if you use the same password for your government computer as for your Facebook account (or) for your Twitter account and when one gets compromised, then your work computer gets compromised," he told Power Play.

And given enough time and money, they can penetrate any computer security, he said.

"The one rule among penetration testers is that you can pretty much break into anything given enough time and resources. There is no system that is impregnable."

Ed Turzanski, a senior fellow at the U.S.-based Foreign Policy Research Institute, said Chinese hackers make such attacks because so far, there have been no consequences.

"As long as people allow them to, they'll continue to engage in this kind of activity," Turzanski told CTV News Channel Thursday in a telephone interview from Philadelphia.

He said Western countries must put pressure on Beijing by banding together and letting the Chinese government know that these electronic incursions are not acceptable.

"Turnabout's fair play," he said. "They're not the only ones who have people with computer skills. If they want to play this game, we can play rough too."

The latest attacks come as Finance Minister Jim Flaherty prepares for a weekend G20 meeting in Paris, where his Chinese counterpart will be in attendance.

Treasury Board spokesman Jay Denney confirmed late Wednesday that there was an "unauthorized attempt" to access computer networks at Canada's Treasury Board.

It was not clear how many hack attempts were made, but the attacks left federal employees in key departments without Internet access temporarily.

Denney said there are no indications that any data was compromised in the "unauthorized attempt."

Sources told CTV that Canadian Security Intelligence Service advised government officials not to name China as the country where the attacks were launched.

But Michel Juneau-Katsuya, a former CSIS intelligence officer, believes the hacking was definitely a Chinese spying operation.

"The Chinese government will deny that they are involved," but they almost certainly knew of the hacking, Juneau-Katsuya suggested.

He says the Chinese call them "patriotic hackers," computer experts who are tolerated by the Chinese government and allowed to use the Internet in order to target foreign government institutions.

"When they retrieve sensitive information, they turn and give it to the government and the government can then use it. But the government can then claim that they didn't do it," Juneau-Katsuya said.

"At the end of the day, you've got Chinese hacker spies that are… stealing sensitive information in order to position themselves."

With a report by CTV's Ottawa Bureau Chief Robert Fife and The Canadian Press

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John M
said

can the government show proof it was 100% the Chinese? They have flat out said they didn't do it and with Harpers track record on the truth I am starting to say show me the proof or drop it.


Phil
said

If this was traced to the embassy, the embassy should be expelled. They are not here in good faith, but to spy. They ABUSE the conventions diplomacy and thus should be expelled.


Jack R
said

Well, we could start by stopping Chinese IP entering Canada at the router level. Cut off all IP from China. Yep, they could use proxy but you have to start somewhere. We could force every single computer in the government to dump MS, and adopt Solaris, HP-Unix or even Linux. There's lots of cheaper solutions, but it takes will to implement it and the government of today only reacts and hasn't the ability to act on it's own. Reminds of Britain in 1939.


Steve in Ottawa
said

Dear Prime Minister: More money for CSIS, the Communications Security Establishment (CSE), the RCMP and your new Cyber Warfare Center. More money now please, and make it substantial. If you want to get tough on crime, lets get tough on the foreign criminals. Thank you.


danR
said

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Look, security is a waste of taxpayers' money.

Our dear leader is trying to economize, and with Fraser and the rest of these whistle-blowers and leakers and ankle-biters persist in these stupid warnings, then getting rid of them can only bring added economy.

Besides, we should just GIVE Beijing (or the Kremlin or the State Department, or however spoofed Hu's servers) the whole blasted government.

That's right: OUTSOURCE Canada to the hackers. Save us billions of dollars. Turn lemons into lemonade. It's not a bug, it's a feature. Think outside the box.

People just don't understand the beauty of fiscal conservatism. Full of bleeding-heart, pinko fantasies.
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Anne
said

Of course we need to do more to protect our security and information, this is unacceptable. However, it is very foolish to view China as a friendly nation, time and time again it is proven that for them, the end justifies the means and right and wrong simply do not compute with them.


JS
said

Well, now we will see how well this Conservative government can stand up against the Chinese government. This is absolutely outrageous, and there should be consequences for China.


Mandosa
said

I don't think most Canadians care, as long as they continue to manufacture cheap crap for us to buy. And when all manufacturing jobs are finally gone, we'll have a nice socialist government that bought our votes with our neighbour's money to save us. There's just no problem here folks! Now be quiet, i'm off to Walmart to buy....something to bring me true happiness.


Dan in Quebec
said

Fire the clowns who are responsible for ensuring the security of this data and failed. No excuses when it comes to protecting our nations secrets. No room for incompetency here.


Serene
said

Well it looks like "Made in Communist China" is long overdue for its "comeuppance"!!! Put the blocks to them!


Netizen
said

Chinese hackers are looking for economic data at Government computers!!!All they probably have found is some boring budget proposals which do not even excite Wikileaks.Now, go back to your coffee break.


Karene
said

Communist China is morally bankrupt. "Made in China" had and has its price and it "ain't" cheap!


HCL
said

Communist China is NOT our friend. When are our career political leech politicians like Jack Layton Chow, Bob Rae, the Iggy sock puppet and Harper going to get a clue? "Made in China" is destroying Canada and the rest of the World. Wake up!!!


DingDing
said

What, but we own this data. They should buy these documents from us at outragous prices and we can send updates quarterly for perhaps 1 million/page.


Ronald
said

It's about time they find out about our military secrets and financial secrets I rather have them as my ally than the Americans.


Jim, Ontario
said

They block most or all of their people's access to our content... it seems the only reason to be networked with China is to allow them to pull these kinds of things while they screw us with trade policy. I say firewall the whole country. If the manufacturing and production information systems are the only reason to not do this then security should be factored into the trade argument as well.


Northern Princess
said

And this is a surprise? China is well known for their copying of everything but with just enough of a minute amount of change so as not to be accused of copying. If they get a contract from Sears to make 5000 pairs of shoes, they will make 5001 so that they can then take that pair of shoe and do a little tiny change so they can say 'We didn't copy, its our own design'!!There is no need for them to check our military 'secrets' as they know full well our full extent and they put more emphasis on their military so they have us beat there (population/funds). They don't have the social programs as we do here in Canada and have a lot more population than we do (34 million in Shanghai alone). They use their funds to make the country look good where they know foreigners will see. The facade that they want to project to all is very important. Where it is not touched, foreigners are not allowed to go there so foreigners will not really know how the people actually live. By hacking our economic system, they can see what it is that they can purchase from us for a steal. They want so bad to buy companies/businesses from Canada in order to have more and more grip on Canda that they will actually stoop to any means to do it.They have thousands of people just looking for 'alert' words like Tibet, Tiannamen Square, and other words that they don't want their people to talk about it isn't funny. If they do see someone typing those words, be it googling or emailing, they will disconnect that person immediately.Yep, not surprising!


JB in Ontario
said

It doesn't surprise me in the least that their are "Hackers" in other countries like China that want our economic data and probably military data. Not in the least. We are a very desirable country to do business with and for others to want to live here. The government will have to keep up with protecting our assets as long as there are "Hackers" out there in cyberspace.


Zane
said

It would be foolhardy to think that China is the only country using computer hackers for espionage purposes. I think that any country with an intelligence gathering capacity would definitely be using this tactic.


ANGELA
said

Are we Canadians so naive as to believe that the Chinese are the only bad guys out there.? Web based espionage is now a game of cat and mouse with the prizes going to the countries with the best hackers! I'm sure we have our own set of geeks in Ottawa,trying the exact same thing!


JPC
said

Where's Jean Chretien to defend China again? They have a huge market but at what cost to us are we supporting their govornment?


D Chura
said

How can people become complacent about this?
Who was actually responsible for this?
They had to have a very good education. But supported by whom? we actually believe it could only be supported by a government. The Chinese.
When it should have been decent if the government of China to responded accordingly, but did not!
These people have no respect for anyone else but them selves.
Have you ever bought products from China? How long do they last? About the length of time their attention span or pattern last! Short of good! What walks like a duck, what speaks like a duck, is usually a Peking duck!
Who do these people think we are? A patsy? Some one they can take advantage of? Take from our back pockets without showing face.
Do you think we should boycott their products of inferiority for life?
They seem to want everything without working for it. Why not start at the top of society? Our government. That's where they are going.
Think our government will respond correctly? Speak up now.

Time to close the doors! Stop immigrants from China, imports and start making our own products. Boycott all their products.
Consider the pollution that they have. It gets into every thing they sell and export.
How much will it take to learn a lesson? Will you become bankrupt from allowing this?




Kait
said

"We know that Canada is crucial to Canada in terms of natural resources and oil and gas and they are trying to acquire information so they can position themselves," he said. Really? Canada is crucial to Canada?Should that not have been "...Canada is crucial to China..."


Doum
said

This kind of information should have been kept off the internet in the first place. Emails can be checked on Blackberrys, Iphones, etc.


Shempatolla in the Hammer
said

And we are tripping over ourselves trying to "beg" them to allow us access to their market why?China is singularly the most unscrupulous, untrustworthy, unreliable, and dishonest trading partner a nation could have in the world. Period. Their human rights abuses are legion, their economic explosion has benefitted less than a third of their population while hundreds of millions still struggle to make ends meet. Western nations are slowly learning that you do business with China at your own peril. I say forget their market and lets tap into India, the smaller South East Asian markets like Viet Nam, Cambodia, Thailand, Indonesia, places where we would have more of an impact and get better results.


Yuhoo
said

Good for Canada.Now civil servants can't serf the net and check personal e-mails while working. It therefore increases their productivity tremendously.


Camwest
said

So when they finally hack into the government and bring the system what do the Chinese just deny again. Why do we not get hackers to bring down their system or is it too politically correct?


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