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Public Safety Minister Vic Toews addresses the media about the RCMP conflict, Tuesday, July 27, 2010. RCMP Commissioner William Elliott gestures as he answers a question from the media at a press conference at RCMP headquarters in Ottawa on Thursday, Feb 4, 2010. (THE CANADIAN PRESS/Pawel Dwulit)

Assessment underway in RCMP conflict: Toews

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Public Safety Minister Vic Toews addresses the media about the RCMP conflict, Tuesday, July 27, 2010. RCMP Commissioner William Elliott gestures as he answers a question from the media at a press conference at RCMP headquarters in Ottawa on Thursday, Feb 4, 2010. (THE CANADIAN PRESS/Pawel Dwulit)

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Public Safety Minister Vic Toews addresses the media about the RCMP conflict, Tuesday, July 27, 2010.

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Date: Tue. Jul. 27 2010 11:03 PM ET

Public Safety Minister Vic Toews confirms that there is a "workplace assessment" underway that stems from a feud involving RCMP Commissioner William Elliott and his senior subordinates.

Elliott, the first-ever civilian director of the RCMP, has reportedly become the subject of formal complaints from senior Mounties who take issue with the way he conducts himself on the job.

Toews would not comment any further on the assessment, saying only it relates to internal management of the RCMP.

On Tuesday, CTV's Ottawa Bureau Chief Robert Fife spoke to a senior Mountie who described the beef senior officers have with their commissioner.

Fife quoted the unnamed Mountie as being "fed up" with Elliott's behaviour, describing it as "abusive, ignorant" and "bullying."

Recently, senior staff members have been keeping detailed notes on Elliott's behavior, which will likely be submitted to the assessor.

"So at the end of the day, when that report is done, he may lose his job," said Fife.

Elliott was apparently sent to a leadership training seminar in Arizona recently, which cost taxpayers $44,000, sources told CTV News.

Elliott has so far said little about the reports about his relationship with senior Mounties. He also declined to appear on CTV to discuss the matter.

"He will not comment publicly, he will not come on camera, we've made that effort," said Fife.

"But sources tell me that he has been working behind the scenes to try to dampen things down."

Sources say Deputy Commissioners Raf Souccar and Tim Killam are two of the Mounties involved in laying complaints against Elliott, along with four assistant commissioners: Francois Bidal, Pat McDonell, Mike Cabana and Mike McDonell, who quit in frustration.

His appointment as a civilian never went down well with the police officers in the RCMP, and defenders of him say his detractors may be angling to replace him, according to many reports.

"People who support him say . . . ‘He's honest, he's committed to improving the situation in RCMP . . . and that these allegations are made by people who were hoping he'd leave after three years . . . and these people have their own ambitions,'" Fife said.

Elliott is the 22nd person to serve as commissioner of the RCMP -- and the first non-Mountie to do so. He began serving as commissioner just over three years ago.

Elliott began working for the Canadian government in 1988.

Linda Duxbury, a professor who has studied the RCMP extensively, said that the new problems are indicative of deep-seeded problems at the agency.

She said that at an organization like the RCMP, a culture of trust among staff is crucial.

"I don't see how Bill Elliott will be able to trust his senior leadership team," Duxbury said in an interview.

Worse, given the obvious tensions, it may be too late for a simple fix, such as removing certain staff members or shaking up the leadership.

"I don't see how they can fix it up right now. The genie's out of the bottle."

Politically speaking, the Prime Minister's Office is also in a difficult spot, as thousands of RCMP personnel across the country will be closely scrutinizing the PMO's response to the departmental fight.

"The Prime Minister's Office is stuck between a rock and a hard place," she said.

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don.h
said

the old boys club in the top ranks of the RCMP are acting like a bunch of spoiled hockey players, if they can not get their way, they will just quit being co-operative until the coach is fired.


Please clean house at the top Mr Toews
said

My son is in the force and word many months ago was this commissioner is a screamer at the people below him. He has to go....and maybe a few of the old boys "hangers on" from the tainted Zachardelli/Chretien days who proved to be somewhat less than transparent.


Martin
said

Just a thought that needs to be considered. There are times in the private sector when a deliberate move is made to get a manager from a different sector to get a new set of eyes, and some new ideas. It seems to me that the Police are determined to create an old boys club that protects itself, and is only concerned about higher salaries that ensure they are "competitive" with the highest police salary in Canada.I think it is tile to shake up the force, and get them to look beyond their own personal interest!


Cornwall
said

it is a shame when Canada's so called most respected symbol of Red colours and horse shows ,has such a disrespectful attitude to changes and there Boss !
It should be of no concern where Mr.Elliott was recruited from .
Mr.Elliott was selected as the BEST candidate for the Job,and the rest of the organizations of Professionals should respond accordingly.
To provide a service that makes Canada and Canadiens proud ,that is what the RCMP is ! Not a bunch of whining ,individuals !
Bravo Mr.Elliott !
Performance based on Merit and not whose arse u kiss !


Bill in BC
said

Not a surprise considering the realities of the situation. A political appointee with no experience or knowlege of policing trying to order about trained and experienced professionals. Hmm, recipe for disaster? he's lucky that all they are doing is making complaints about him. The RCMP Commissioners position requires someone with experience in the real world, not this fellow.


Peter in MB
said

I guess the top cops dont like being told that they are not above the LAW!!!


Sober, Newmarket
said

How can a civilian with no policing experience run the cop shop? Time for mr Elliott to go. He won't make it because he doesn't have any grassroots experience of the organizations he tries to manage. He can only make things more difficult for Canada's top cops.


John D. in Sask.
said

I find it almost ironic that the RCMP would complain about 'abusive', 'ignorant' or 'bullying' behaviour. Looking back to my younger years, which wasn't all that long ago, that was precisely how almost every RCMP officer I encountered treated civillians.


Bubba says Grow Up to Cops, stop being bullies
said

Given that there have been several incidents of excessive use of force by the RCMP, it's likely that each side in this will be polarized. I'm going to wait until the final report comes out before choosing a side to support.

I am greatly concerned about general police behaviour, especially by males in the various police forces.

Policemen should bear in mind that the public wants them to use only the minumum force necessary to apprehend suspects. Recent cases show that some policemen have an overdose of testosterone, and use excessive force regularly. They are acting like bullies.

Arresting people for blowing bubbles in a police officer's face is a good example. A female police officer just smiled, but a male officer next to her took a very aggressive position. Too much testosterone.

We all remember the scene at the Vancouver Airport where 4 police officers felt it was necessary to use a taser, when anyone could easily see that 4 police officers could have subdued the individual easily.

In the last case, we have a police officer pushing a disabled person with MS to the ground in an unprovoked attack. This situation was worsened further when his own buddies failed to arrest the police officer for his unprovoked attack. All policemen should be embarassed by this. Shame on all of you, shame.

Listen up! Most cops are High School Graduates. With that kind of education, you wouldn't normally be paid the salaries you now get. We are paying you for the risks of the job, and because you may have to apprehend criminals using physical force, instead of guns, and tasers.
Put away the testosterone. Policing is changing. Change with it, or get out!

Kudos for Chief Vern White for continuing to clean up our force in Ottawa.


Peter in Ottawa
said

Bravo Bill Elliott! The subordinates who are complaining are the clowns who made the RCMP a national disgrace and an international laughingstock. This dysfunctional outfit needs a colossal shake-up, particularly in the wake of the Dziekanski murder and subsequent attempts at cover-up. Bill Elliott should dismiss the top two tiers of RCMP management, promote and develop officers from the layers below, and introduce advancement based on merit. Deputy Commissioners Souccar and Killam complain that Elliott threw papers at an officer. He should throw the book!


hollinm
said

There have been lots of complaints about the way the RCMP have been doing their job. To solve some of the problems they should stop acting as the major police force in some provinces. Let the provinces form their own police forces. Then the RCMP could focus on their main mandate which is federal jurisdication. I don't doubt that Elliot is creating enemies within the force. Anytime major change is required there are those who will fight it all the way. There are two sides to every story and eventually it will come out. We have people on this board arguing their right to know. Know what? That there are policy differences? The boss is bullying? This happens everday in the private sector. We need the RCMP to work through their differences without the glare of the media and of course their opponents.


maria
said

It pleases me the new civilian commissioner has rivalry from management of the rcmp; if not, he would not be doing his job effectively. Rcmp management, would not have Mr. Elliot as commissioner, had they executed their job without harresment, bias, and internal corruption. Bullying bullies may be exactly what is needed to clean up the top heavy pompous structure that exist in the RCMP.


Gord. Robson, Nova Scotia
said

I hope that the assessment can be accurate and thatall the senior staff can work well together. There appears to be some problems starting at the trainning level. We need to bring back the same trainning that was in place in the sixties.Policing is a difficult job, always in the public eye and always someone to find fault. Basic trainning is where it all begins.The R.C.M.P. has and has had many very good officers.


Dave
said

Harper can't seem to find any good people. Maybe he should look in another party. Better yet, maybe he should just go. Forever.


Wendy
said

We must remember Steven Harper has an extremely shallow talent pool to pick from....whether in his cabinet or his non-governmental associates. Harper's own track record of picking Ministers or Dept heads has been anything but stellar. In selecting William Elliot as RCMP commissioner he just maintained his un-broken incompetency record.The complaints of, arrogant, insulting,abusive and closed mindedness against Elliot seem to be exactly the characteristics Harper would look for first in his 'puppets'. Just look at what he has around him....those descriptive words will fit everyone of them perfectly.


Samual
said

Maybe the RCMP needed a good blasting from their boss considering all the bad news we hear about their incompetency in the past few years, which seems to be getting worse. Maybe Elliot is totally fed up...I would be too if they don't start acting like a 'police force' instead of a circus road show! What gives, though, with the PM refusing to comment, Elliot refusing to comment, the deputies refusing to comment and the media just reports that fact without getting in their face and telling these people that Canadians have a right to know what is going on and that government officials can't constantly keep things 'top secret'. In the US there is independent reporting whereby nothing is kept secret for long and we need some of that openness and transparency in this country too!


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