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Riot police push against a crowd during a street demonstration on the closing day of the G20 Summit in Toronto, Sunday, June 27, 2010. (AP / Carolyn Kaster) A screengrab from a video Jason MacDonald submitted to MyNews.CTV.ca, after he was allegedly hit by a riot shield in the face, cutting his forehead. Dozens of police in riot gear gather at Richmond at Spadina in downtown Toronto, Sunday night, June 27, 2010. (Chris Allen / MyNews.CTV.ca) Police make mass arrests as heavy rain falls on riot police following a gathering at Queen and Spadina in downtown Toronto, Sunday night, June 27, 2010. Police make mass arrests as heavy rain falls on riot police following a gathering at Queen and Spadina in downtown Toronto, Sunday night, June 27, 2010. Riot police stand ready during a protest at Eastern Avenue and Pape early Sunday morning, Sunday, June 27, 2010. (Tom Stefanac / CTV News) Riot police wearing gas masks get ready prepare themselves on Spadina Avenue in downtown Toronto on Saturday, June 26, 2010. (Frank Gunn / THE CANADIAN PRESS) Farzad Fatholahzadeh, a CTV News Channel producer, is seen moments after being arrested by police during a protest rally in Toronto on Saturday, June 26, 2010. Heavy rain falls on riot police as crowds thin out following mass detentions at Queen and Spadina in downtown Toronto, Sunday night, June 27, 2010. (Chris Allen / MyNews.CTV.ca) A young woman stopped near Spadina and Queen Sunday morning. (Ian Munroe/CTV News)

Police actions questioned following G20 weekend

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CTV National News: Lisa LaFlamme reports
More than 900 people were arrested during the weekend of violence of the G20 Summit. Most of those were released without charge. Now some who were among the protesters say civil liberties were trampled and demand an explanation.
CTV National News: Scott Laurie on the cleanup
As people in Toronto began to count the cost of a G20 Summit that brought unprecedented violence, many businesses large and small, who had their property trashed by a gang of vandals, are asking why they should be stuck with the bill.
CTV National News: Alan Bell, security analyst
A terrorism and security analyst says an investigation into the tactics of police officers during the G20 is not necessary, due to the success of the summit and the fact that no one was able to penetrate the security fence.
CTV Toronto: Austin Delaney on G20 compensation
Calls are growing for the federal government to compensate businesses hurt by G20 vandals on the weekend. Austin Delaney reports.
CTV Toronto: Naomi Parness on a bystander
One man went to witness history at the G20 protests and ended up under arrest and in police custody. Naomi Parness reports.
CTV Toronto: Galit Solomon on the processing
The courts have had to chew through the cases of hundreds of people arrested following weekend G20 Summit protests. Galit Solomon reports.
CTV Toronto: Paul Bliss from the protest
The NDP wants a public inquiry while the Ontario PCs say the punks should pay for the weekend's G20 damage. Paul Bliss reports.
CTV News Channel: Jesse Freeston, journalist
A video journalist with The Real News Network says he was punched in the face twice by a police officer during a peaceful march on Friday. He also saw an officer brutally assault protesters, who were chanting peacefully.
CTV News Channel: Omar Sachedina reports
A CTV correspondent says downtown Toronto is slowly going back to normal. Police say it will take a couple of day for all the security fences to be taken down and off the streets.
CTV Toronto: G20 security fence comes down
The security fence that protected world leaders and stirred tension among protesters is being dismantled. Janice Golding reports
MyNews: Surrounded and arrested by police
WARNING: Strong language and violence used that may upset some viewers. MyNews user Jason MacDonald shares this chilling first-hand video account of protesters surrounded by riot police, allegedly being cut by a riot shield and being eventually arrested at the intersection of Spadina and Queen in downtown Toronto on Sunday.
CTV Toronto: Police chief Bill Blair reacts
Police chief Bill Blair details police reaction to G20 protests.
CTV News Channel: Mayor Miller reacts to summit, one
The mayor of Toronto takes questions from the media the day after the G20 Summit, which resulted in hundreds detained, a handful of injuries and extensive damage to business and downtown infrastructure.
CTV News Channel: Mayor Miller reacts to summit, two
The mayor of Toronto takes questions from the media the day after the G20 Summit, which resulted in hundreds detained, a handful of injuries and extensive damage to business and downtown infrastructure.
CTV News Channel: Mayor Miller reacts to summit, three
The mayor of Toronto takes questions from the media the day after the G20 Summit, which resulted in hundreds detained, a handful of injuries and extensive damage to business and downtown infrastructure.
CTV News Channel: John Thompson, analyst
A terrorism analyst and president of the Mackenzie Institute says the police were professional and balanced their resources successfully over the weekend, while also explaining black bloc tactics.
Canada AM: David Miller, mayor
The mayor of Toronto says the federal government should not have hosted the summit downtown and the federal government has a responsibility to compensate businesses who had their stores damaged.
CTV News Extended: Protesters clash with police
Sunday: Raw CTV News video of protesters clashing with riot police as officers move in and snatch various 'known anarchists' who were in the crowds outside the detention centre at approximately 12 p.m. ET on Sunday, June 27.
CTV National News: John Vennavally-Rao reports
Toronto police did not want another day of violence on city streets on Sunday, moving swiftly to arrest more than 600 protesters and dispersing crowds with the use of small amounts of tear gas.
CTV National News: Lisa LaFlamme on the protests
Police officials brought out everything in their arsenal during a standoff at a major intersection in Toronto, plucking people out of the crowd and arresting them while penning in the demonstrators.
CTV National News: Omar Sachedina on the march
The most violent incident that occurred on Sunday involved the arrest of a number of protesters that approached a temporary processing centre where hundreds of other protesters were being held.
CTV Toronto Extended: Anarchists target Yonge
In this dramatic 10 minutes of unedited video shot by a CTV News cameraman, anarchists move up Yonge Street vandalizing anything and everything in their path -- only one Toronto resident and a security guard try to stop them.
CTV News Extended: Jeff McGuire, Toronto Police
Toronto Police Service Staff Superintendent Jeff McGuire gives an update on the incident where police boxed in a group of about 200 people in heavy rain on Queen Street West.
CTV Toronto: Police hold line at Spadina and Queen
Police were determined to protect G20 leaders assembled at the Metro Convention Centre by preventing large protest groups from moving south on Spadina from Queen. Michelle Dube reports.
CTV News Channel: Journalists on the arrests
Sunday: A group of CTV journalists speak about their interactions with police who were making arrests at the intersection at Spadina and Queen Street West, and explain how police are treating members of the media at protests.
MyNews: Toronto police cruiser burns
From contributor Asad Munir: Chaos ensues as a police car burns after being set on fire by anti G20 protesters in downtown Toronto on Saturday, June 26, 2010.
CTV News Channel: Cam Woolley from U of T
Sunday: A CP24 correspondent reporting from the University of Toronto says police have raided and detained around 100 more people Sunday in the downtown core and police remain proactive in apprehending protesters looking for trouble.
CTV News Channel: Sue Sgambati on Eastern
Sunday: A CP24 correspondent reporting from the G20 Prisoner Processing Centre in Toronto says police officers are ready for another day of summit protection as protests could get violent again on Sunday. But despite the rogue protesters, police say they were successful in protecting the summit perimeter.
CTV News Channel: Const. Wendy Drummond, ISU
Sunday: An officer with the Integrated Security Unit says reacts to the criticisms of indiscriminant arrests and shares details about a pre-emptive police raid of a building on the University of Toronto campus where officers detained more than 100 people after finding a cache of 'street-type weaponry' such as bricks.
CTV News Channel: Julian Fantino, OPP
Sunday: The commissioner of the OPP reveals that a number of provincial officers have been hospitalized a various degrees of treatment after facing horrific riot conditions and says he makes absolutely no apology for anyone and OPP officer arrested in these circumstances.

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Riot police push against a crowd during a street demonstration on the closing day of the G20 Summit in Toronto, Sunday, June 27, 2010. (AP / Carolyn Kaster) A screengrab from a video Jason MacDonald submitted to MyNews.CTV.ca, after he was allegedly hit by a riot shield in the face, cutting his forehead. Dozens of police in riot gear gather at Richmond at Spadina in downtown Toronto, Sunday night, June 27, 2010. (Chris Allen / MyNews.CTV.ca) Police make mass arrests as heavy rain falls on riot police following a gathering at Queen and Spadina in downtown Toronto, Sunday night, June 27, 2010. Police make mass arrests as heavy rain falls on riot police following a gathering at Queen and Spadina in downtown Toronto, Sunday night, June 27, 2010. Riot police stand ready during a protest at Eastern Avenue and Pape early Sunday morning, Sunday, June 27, 2010. (Tom Stefanac / CTV News) Riot police wearing gas masks get ready prepare themselves on Spadina Avenue in downtown Toronto on Saturday, June 26, 2010. (Frank Gunn / THE CANADIAN PRESS) Farzad Fatholahzadeh, a CTV News Channel producer, is seen moments after being arrested by police during a protest rally in Toronto on Saturday, June 26, 2010. Heavy rain falls on riot police as crowds thin out following mass detentions at Queen and Spadina in downtown Toronto, Sunday night, June 27, 2010. (Chris Allen / MyNews.CTV.ca) A young woman stopped near Spadina and Queen Sunday morning. (Ian Munroe/CTV News)

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Riot police push against a crowd during a street demonstration on the closing day of the G20 Summit in Toronto, Sunday, June 27, 2010. (AP / Carolyn Kaster)

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Date: Mon. Jun. 28 2010 10:09 PM ET

As Toronto cleans up after a weekend of G20-related violence, questions are being raised about the actions of police.

On Saturday, the Integrated Security Unit was criticized for allowing the "Black Bloc" anarchists to run amok on Queen West and Yonge St, destroying property and torching police cars.

But on Sunday, police cracked down hard on protesters, including what some have described as lawful protests.

A community organizer named Ro Velasquez told CTV.ca that she was arrested with a group of about 30 people who were holding a peaceful vigil overnight Saturday near a temporary jail where hundreds of protestors were being held.

She was handcuffed for the duration of her 22-hour detention in a cage-like cell with 18 other women, she said, and had medication confiscated that she is required to take every four hours.

Velasquez also said her cell was guarded by a male officer, making it difficult to use the open washroom with privacy.

"So many people were arrested that had nothing to do with the protests," she added.

One video on YouTube shows police, dressed in riot gear, charging a group of protesters who were singing "O Canada" and were seemingly non-threatening.

Jason MacDonald submitted a video to MyNews.CTV.ca, in which he alleges he was hit by a riot shield in the face, cutting his forehead. The video shows blood streaming down the left side of his face from a cut above his eye.

Minutes later he is tackled to the ground and arrested.

The video was taken at the standoff at the Queen and Spadina intersection, which has drawn intense criticism for cordoning off both protesters and anyone else caught in the crossfire.

Political reaction

Mayor David Miller has defended the actions of police, saying they had an extraordinarily difficult task.

"I think compared to similar events around the world, our police did a remarkably good job and people should be starting from that perspective," he told Canada AM Monday morning.

Later, in a news conference the mayor said he regretted that some innocent people "got caught up" in the arrests and blamed the arrests on police having to deal with "Black Bloc" tactics.

Miller said that there is civilian oversight of the police, and there is a proper channel for complaints.

Dorian Barton, who says he went to the Ontario legislature Saturday out of curiosity, suffered a broken arm and a black eye when police hauled him into custody.

"They hit me with the riot shield, slammed me to the ground, stepped over me and they started dragging me and they were hitting me," Barton told CTV News.

Toronto police spokesperson Tim Burrows told CTV News Channel that the police will review their actions and will be even harder on themselves than the public or media.

"The biggest lesson is still to come . . . we don't want blind criticism or deaf praise, we need to learn from and be constructive about what happened," he said. "In the end the greatest criticism we will have, is from ourselves."

Late Monday afternoon, about 1,000 people gathered outside Toronto Police headquarters on College St. to protest what they said was excessive use of force, as well as mistreatment of the more than 900 people who were detained.

The crowd chanted "shame" as police as officers surrounded them. The peaceful demonstration closed College St. between Yonge and Bay Streets. One man was arrested nearby before the demonstration began.

The crowd then peacefully marched to Queen's Park, chanting "justice now" as they walked along University Avenue, Queen Street West, in front of City Hall and back up University Ave. again. One placard read: "I have the right to peaceful assembly."

Swift police action

Police appeared to lower their tolerance to protests Sunday after watching four of their squad cars burn Saturday.

At one point Sunday, police and protesters were engaged in a tense and bizarre four-hour standoff at a busy intersection in the city's core, when a large contingent of police boxed in a group of about 200 people in heavy rain.

Police moved in and picked out certain protesters and arrested them. Then, just before 9:45 p.m. local time, police let the remaining crowd go free.

Talking to reporters late Sunday night, Toronto Police Staff Superintendent Jeff McGuire was pressed to explain why police had barricaded people for so long in the rain. McGuire responded: "We're not perfect in everything we do, but our interest was in the safety of the citizens of Toronto."

Earlier Sunday, there was a tense standoff at a temporary detention centre where hundreds of people arrested during the protests were held.

A riot squad used rubber bullets and blank rifle shots to drive back about 100 demonstrators at the seemingly peaceful sit-in outside the detention centre. Police then apprehended an alleged member of an anarchist protest group.

Eventually, police made a deal with the crowd, telling them they would release some of those arrested if the crowd moved off a busy street. The deal appeared to work and the crowd stepped back.

Police also raided a building on the University of Toronto campus Sunday and arrested at least 70 people -- not believed to be students. A spokesperson for the Integrated Security Unit said officers found a cache of "street-type weaponry" such as bricks and fuels.

Journalists among arrested

There are also questions being raised about the number of journalists who were arrested while covering the G20 protests. At least one journalist is reported to have been struck by police during his arrest.

Jesse Rosenfeld, a Canadian activist freelance journalist, was on assignment for The Guardian when he was arrested Saturday night.

Steve Paikin, host of the Agenda on TVO, witnessed the arrest and reported that Rosenfeld was punched in the stomach and then elbowed in the back when he was doubled over.

Two Reuters photographers were arrested Sunday night while covering a protest near Queen West and Spadina, despite wearing prominent media badges.

They were released without charges.

Two National Post photographers, Brett Gundlock and Colin O'Connor, were arrested Saturday while attempting to photograph police clashing with protesters.

They spent about 24 hours in custody and were both charged with obstruct peace officer and unlawful assembly.

A CTV producer was also arrested and released without charge on the weekend.

Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair told CTV News Channel that reporters would be arrested if they did not disperse with the protesters they were covering.

"We asked the innocent to leave three times and they chose not, and if a tourist, or even a reporter, chooses to remain in that crowd . . . then they had to deal with the consequences of being detained," he said.

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Rose Wiggle
said

Please . . . in the future, do not hold this Summit in a city. Have it on an aircraft carrier, a mountain resort . . . do not subject residents and police of any city to this violence.


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

@ Niagara George: If you weren't a bona fide conspiracy theorist chasing a bunch of anti-establishment nonsense, George, you might be able to see the "truth" displayed repeatedly in front of your face. It was broadcast on television stations, and reported fully, as it happened, on news radio, on-line, and after-the-fact in newspapers. (Perhaps you've been tasting samples at a lovely winery in Niagara. I'm jealous.) The scattered "Neo-Con" rants from you and the tie-dye crowd are growing silly and tiresome. Everybody's a righteous "victim." Spare us.


Lebanese-Canadian
said

Police brutality reminded me of Lebanon under Syrian occupation. When Lebanese Secret Services and Syrian Secret Services in plain cloth attacked a demonstration of Lebanese University and College students. I could not believe what I saw in Toronto. The same pictures. Police in plain cloth with only a police vest attacking demonstrators and dragging them inside the security zone. What a shame !!!


Quiet I'm Talking
said

It might cost society considerably less than a billion dollars a year to set up several thousand acres of land somewhere to which anarchists can go and call home. There they can establish their anarchist government and abide by their anarchist rules. And starve in their anarchist caves.


Marc
said

Why do people blame the police? If they are too soft on people, the public complains. If they are too hard on someone, they complain. They have a lose lose situation. I think they showed an extreme amount of restraint and have even more respect for the police. Anyone who doesn't respect a police officer is a moron. Sure they have bad apples, but they are everywhere and they get weeded out the best they can.


Greg
said

The only people that would ever blame the police or find fault in them are people of the same mindset as the idiots who trashed the city. You couldn't pay me enough to do what the police do. Stop blaming the police and put the blame where it should be. Anywhere but the police.


firstMickey
said

Poor little protesters. BooHoo. Pity they can't think of anything positive and constructive to do. I don't feel sorry for them at all. Get a life, fools.


Alan
said

As I watch, on TV, the Monday protest, in front of Police HQ, I wonder if/when these whiners need help in the future and call 911, will they remember their comments and lack of respect for the Police and other essential services? Will they waste time "discussing" their civil rights before possibly even having their life saved by one of Toronto's finest?
Let's get on with living - go to the Jazz Festival, the Pride Parade, Canada Day festivities, so many great things to do in our city - enjoy them. Let's move on.





PlaidShirt
said

22 years ago, the G7 summit was held at exactly the same place (Metro Toronto Convention Centre) at exactly the same time (late June). No riots. No arrests. The day before the G20, the G8 was held in Huntsville, 3 hour drive away. No riots. No arrests.Next year Seoul will hold it. No riots. A few arrests maybe. It won't be on an ocean liner. It won't be on an army base. It won't be on a mountain or in the Far North. All G20 leaders and their delegations will be there in one of the world's biggest cities. There won't be any torched police cruisers and it won't cost $1 billion. Criminals will go to jail. Police won't look on as their city gets destroyed. No one will whine about compensation. Seoul is a place where the civilized are still in control. Like Toronto was 22 years ago.


akaida
said

The Black Bloc are undercover cops - this was admitted by canadian govt in the 2007 Quebec protests

Jim
said

What the hell are you TV commentators talking about. A bunch of thugs march through downtown TO smashing windows, burning cars along with a bunch of thrill seekers. If it had been my store there would be hell to pay. I say lock them up and make them pay for the damage before they get out. Poor babys my ass.


beentheredonethat
said

When I heard a female talking head on CTV newsnet ask on Saturday night, " do the police have a plan? ", I wanted to jump through by bigscreen tv." In a former life I was front and centre on horseback dealing with these lowlife nitwits at numerous demos and a G 7 summit too far back to mention. Question police actions all you want, but if you really think that the police were the problem, then we've got a bigger problem and suffice to say, we may well end up going the anarchist's way.


Nancy
said

Oh Boo Hoo the law breakers got thrown in jail. They deserved worse. Maybe they should be made to work off the money that is owed for all the damaged property.
On the news they kept saying a few ruined it for the rest. Well why didn't the rest do something to stop them. I would be ashamed to say that someone I knew had nothing better to do then destroy property.The police were damned if they did and damned if they didn't. People were complaining about how much this meeting was costing Toronto, well you can add thousands more from the destruction of police cars and property.


Debra
said

I think that we should start questioning the professionalism of the so-called reporters giving these hooligans their 15 seconds of fame rather than focus on the constant verbal and physical abuse suffered by the overly patient police officers. Any normal citizen would have lost their patience within 1 minute of dealing with these idiots that are there to do one thing and one thing only - BE ON THE NEWS AND LAUGH ABOUT IT WITH THEIR WELFARE BUDDIES AFTERWARDS.....LET'S FOCUS ON THE MAIN PROBLEM, REPORTERS AND LAW BREAKING MORONS!!!!!!!


Free Canada?
said

Once upon a time, I was told that Canadians had a Charter of Rights and Freedoms.What I see going on in Toronto, is a "police state" where law abiding citizens rights are REMOVED by the "police"(?) by order of the Federal Government.Nazism at its finest. Our finest "pork" can take a bow for their attacks upon the rights of law abiding citizens, by "detaining" persons, without charge, denying them their Charter Rights, and inhibiting their freedom of travel in their own country.I fear my government, and my countries "police" more than I fear the criminals, nowadays.


Marg in Calgary
said

@Sam:

You were wondering why people were being put in cages and treated like animals? Going out on a limb here, but I would say probably because they were acting like animals?! Just a thought here!

Stupid is as stupid does.


PlaidShirt
said

22 years ago, the G7 summit was held at exactly the same place (Metro Toronto Convention Centre) at exactly the same time (late June). No riots. No arrests.Next year Seoul will hold it. It won't be on an ocean liner. It won't be on an army base. It won't be on a mountain or in the Far North. All G20 leaders and their delegations will be there in one of the world's biggest cities. There won't be any torched police cruisers and it won't cost $1 billion. Criminals will go to jail. Police won't look on as their city gets destroyed. No one will whine about compensation. Seoul is a place where the civilized are still in control. Like Toronto was 22 years ago.


Robert Brise
said

All you idiots compaining about the police are usually the first ones to call them when someone pi--es on your front lawn!!!


lorna
said

did people really expect a police officer to stop and visit with them to find out what there occupation was meaning the journalists i hope none of you are never in afghanistan because you will never know when to shut up and go home. it is called personal responsibility would you like the officers to come to your work place and yell at you and tell you how to do your job my husband put in 25 years in calgary and complain now but sometime when they have cared for your loved one at a fatality then have to notify you when a loved one has died or then have nightmares for the rest of your life maybe you should have some compassion for them as for the women complaing because the bathrooms had no doors do really think they had any interest in looking at you they have seen much more in there lives than that


DK
said

Btw in addition to seeing nothing wrong the police did apart from not doing enough on Saturday, CTV should focus on what the black bloc thugs and anarchist scum did to the city. Rather than trying to grab cheap headlines.


Paul
said

Well you think with all those extra police there they could take care of all these terrible actions from these people...


Relief
said

The oldest gag in the book is to stage an "attack" on yourself as an excuse to attack. Hitler burned down the Riechstag and blamed it on a Jewish guy as an excuse for martial law, 9/11 was a staged attack as a pretext for social control, 2 wars and unprecedented stripping of civil rights, and the Black Bloc were really cops burning their own cars in order to crack down on free speech. If you don't believe me, why did they (cops) leave the Black Bloc alone while they burned police cars? Remember Montebello?


DK
said

Police did their job ok on Sunday. But they lacked descipline and action on Saturday. There is nothing they did or committed that was wrong, but I would criticize them for not stopping the black bloc thugs from rampaging the city on saturday.


Marg in Calgary
said

I will never understand the mentality of the clods that have to destroy property to get a point across. If you want to protest, DO IT PEACEFULLY! YOU DO NOT NEED TO DESTROY OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVELIHOODS!! I think these brainless twits should all be made to pay for everything they destroyed. That's the only way for them to GET IT through their heads that violence is not the way to protest.

'Nuf said.


Jason Whelan
said

As an American watching from Buffalo, the Toronto Police Services and there 20,000 additional officers are doing a great job. These cowards and looney anarchists are nothing but jackasses. How did these freaks get to Toronto? Do they buy gas from "the man"? There clothes are made by "corporations". These people are nothing but idiots. Stand behind your police, and so what if a few of these scumbag protestors get hurt. Too bad. You play, you pay.


jjaycee
said

Heads of state should be able to meet without threat of violence. People should be able to demonstrate without resorting to violence. We have laws that should be respected. Terrorists and Criminals should be taken out by whatever means is necessary to safeguard citizens and their property, and guests of our citizenry.Cancelling meetings, sporting events, summer festivals just gives power to these hoodlums. We need to show the cujones, and be willing to stand up to them.


Susanne Johnston
said

The police are to be commended. If you didn't move when you were told you have no reason to complain. In situations like this they don't have time to be a social worker. As for reporters, you should have a visible I.D. Next summit should be held on a cruise ship , away from mindless idiots who contribute little to society or their own well being .


WestofTheRockies
said

Aw Lea, give it a break; you & your baby cousin have been breathing the rarefied air of academia far too long. You don't have any right to snap pictures of criminals committing crimes. Ride along taking pictures in any other criminal endeavour and you'll be arrested and charged with the crime also, and will likely be convicted. Maybe you should ask your baby cousin, what or who was he taking the pictures for, the family album? Guilty by association, a very good lesson most parents teach their children. "Baby cousin" has probably never been held to acount and now he's stepped over the line. The police did their job well, many would not have exercised so much restraint. Nothing like a night or two in the slammer to re-focus on the good life we have in this great country.


Donna
said

I am embarrassed to be a Canadian right now. Those hooligans in Toronto sure showed the rest of the world what a civilized and peaceful nation we are. Disgusting and they are worried about their rights and the police actions are being questioned. No wonder our society is gone to heck. According to the constituion it is okay to protest but not mention God, pray or mention His name at CHRISTmas etc.Those idiots should go and volunteer at crisis centres, homeless centres, old age home, pick garbage off the streets or any other contructive thing that will benefit our country. They need more in their life obviously.O yeah, they money that they protested against is now more as businesses will be asking for help repairing their damage. The rioters should be making restitution not the tax payer.


Geoff Lynn
said

I probably would not keep my job for long as I would have made it my mission to take down hard anyone with their face covered. The police were remarkable in their restraint. Prostestors who don't think so should go to many other countries around the world and try to protest anything.


Johan Granfors
said

I am disappointed at the superficial coverage of the protests provided by the people's network and CTV. Both are only providing reports on the actions of the protesters, not on the "why".It only took me 10 minutes to determine that most of the violent protesters are motivated by a recycled form of Marxism (aka Anarchy - get rid of current structures, evil capitalism, substitute the current structures with "peoples committees", etcDeja Vu. All over again. As Hitler once said - "Repeat lies often and long and loud enough, and people will believe it."We the people demand more of our journalists and their organizations.


Rev
said

So the protesters gathered outside police HQ to complain about police using excessive force. Where is the protester HQ located? I want to gather outside and complain about the PROTESTER'S EXCESSIVE FORCE.The protesters can't say they didn't see this coming. People dressed in black walking amont them causing havoc during the Vancouver games. Now in Toronto they have yet again more protesters dressed all in black among them. What did they think was going to happen?


david in texas
said

Criminals are criminals arrest them, charge them and convict them.

The real question is what was Canada thinking - $1B for security are you people stupid? Let someone else host this fiasco!


Judy - Newcastle, On
said

RE; Riots in TO. For those who are pleading innocence, you get no sympathy here. If you didn't want to be involved, you should have stayed away. The police should be commended for their actions and we should be concentrating on the vandals.


Bill Bell
said

B. BellOntarioOf course CTV and any other news network will take aim at the police since it was their stupid employess who screwed up. You are not above the general public in rights. Sunday night they were asked three times ( one reporter on TV said " this is our second warning" ) to leave. They nor the protestors left. I do not feel one bit of sympathy for the media nor the protestors. I feel the police did not go far enough to stop the thunks, punks, criminals. Those black clad punks are no better than the scum bag chicken sh_ t 's in Aphganistan who hide and set road side bombs instead of fightening like men.Why do they cover their faces ? Because they are chicken s_ _ t's. Who I am really disapponted with are the real protestors. You people had these punks out numbered. You let them give you a bad name. You are as bad as them for letting them ruin it for you . Next time why not police your demonstration with your own and stop these punks ?????Mr. Harper needs to take the brunt of the blame for this. Downtown Toronto was the worst place to hold this. You will not get my vote next time around.To the men and women of the police, You did an excellent job. You rock


Patrick
said

I am from Ohio and have travelled to Toronto to wath my Crew play TFC. If I would have known in advance about this "Black Block" I would have come up and stood shoulder to shoulder with the citizens of the great city of Toronto to stop there heathens from destroying anything. UP TORONTO


Hairy
said

Give it up no matter what the police do they are always in the wrong suck it up T.O. Maybe those people should not of been there watching and rubber necking. Get over it Cops did there job...


Cynthia
said

For those of you who say that it was necessary to create violence in order to be heard, I say to you, NO ONE wants to hear anyone who is creating violence. If you want to change things run for politics and see if the public does support you or not. In the meantime stop trying to destroy other peoples property and risk hurting innocent people, ie other protestors, newspersons bystanders and the police who are only doing their jobs to protect us from the likes of you. Grow up!


Mr. 1776
said

These violent assaults by the police might be tolerated in North Korea, but they should not be in an allegedly free nation like Cananda! These citizens have a right to protest the criminal actions of their government ministers, without the fear of being the vicitims of police brutality.


Robert
said

These "activists" and "protesters" are nothing but terrorists and criminals. If I were the police I would have used live ammunition on them from the get-go.


Andrew in Toronto
said

So why didn't the peaceful protesters detain the vandals on Saturday? Or take some direct action and beat the crap out of them when the cops were standing by doing nothing but protecting the conference area? And maybe Syd, Judy and Adam can explain why their union goons couldn't have maintained the peace if they really weren't colluding with the vandals all the time. Screw the Left. (Especially the bourgeois kids play acting at being tough and then complaining about being left out in the rain.)


falseflag
said

@Innadiated. Just a trial run getting the security force initiated on how to trample on civil rights and feel completely justified.The fact that you hear nothing about police provocateurs on the MSM when it is well documented online speaks volumes.


Stefane
said

What exactly did you want them to do?!?! Say "Please"?!? See if you can find some positive actions these poor saps (the cops) have done for the communities that condemn every move they make!


TJ- MB
said

Police in question? It should be the protestors. If people didn't want be arrested, then they should have not went there to start unessecary trouble to begin with. Sorry, I don't have any sympathy for stupidity.


norm in ontario
said

mike from halifax said it all"If it was me who was in charge, I would have had snipers on all the rooftops in the areas with high powered rifles loaded with tranquilizer darts. Everyone seen breaking windows and torching cars would have been videoed, darted and picked up later at the leisure of the police. I suspect this would have contributed to a much more well behaved crowd."I love it!mike from halifax for mayor of toronto


Bob Burke
said

We had the G-20 here in Pittsburgh last fall and while I am certainly no fan of Big Global Gov't I also did not appreciate out of towners coming into my city to destroy and vandalize. Makes me wonder why corporations like Starbucks waste their time catering to the left wing when their storefronts are the first to be damaged by the loones on the left !!


Sam C
said

Why did the Police abandon those cars in the middle of the street? Because ONE cop in a cruiser that gets surrounded by a mob is pretty much helpless to stand up against them. Better to sacrifice a car than to have that officer injured -- or worse.


Steven
said

I'm surprised to see so many people excusing the actions of the police. So because the police FAILED to crack down enough on Saturday on people that actually were being violent, that somehow gives them license to aggressively attack NON-violent people on Sunday? How does that make any sense?

So if some guy runs up to me and punches me upside the head, and I fail to retaliate, does that mean that if I second guy walks up and insults me, I have the right to beat the crap out of the second guy?


Just Sayin
said

Sounds like the police let them run amok on Saturday to give themselves the reason (excuse) to pound all protestors hard on Sunday.


Chris
said

Again people you don't understand how controlling mobs/crowds/riots work!!!! The police will cordon off the crowd (like digging fireguards around a forest fire), then they let the crowd/mob/riot attempt to calm itself down (like the forest fire burning itself out), and finally they will move in to dispurse the people (like forest fires putting out the hotspots). This procedure is safe for the police, safer for the protestors, and enables the police to apprehend the troublesome individuals easier. The police did this RIGHT!!!


Gary
said

I was a supporter of the police until I watched the cp24 coverage of the Sunday night incident at Queen and Spadina. This made me ashamed to be Canadian.

It was only made worse by the weak excuses offered by the chief of police, mayor and police spokesperson.

If you make a mistake (which the police did Sunday night) own up and apologize for it. Your feeble arguments are simply embarrassing.


rhotan
said

Hah! Police cars on fire? who was in charge?


Niagara George
said

All of you neoCons that have chosen to blame the journalists who were arrested, should remember that many of us would like to know the true story of what happened. I know you don't need reporters because you have Vic Toews and Stephen Harper telling you. But many of us would like to hear the story from someone who was actually there. How long will it take for the real story to come out? When will we hear about the undercover police that wore black and urged the others to riot? When will we hear the reasoning behind leaving police cars unattended, in the middle of a disturbance? Who will give us the true story of why clubs and rubber bullets were used against people who were standing still and singing the national anthem? The only ones we can possibly trust are the reporters who were on the scene.


jt
said

Daniel CThe black bloc was breaking winddows causing massive damage and fear.to say the police cause more probleams is false.I am worried not about the police but remarks like yours and others you do not seem to think there should be any laws.


Matt
said

Having been to a few peaceful protests myself. The larger the police presence and the more heavily armed they come only makes the situation more volitile. When you make an agressive stance toward someone their going to resist. The big question is why were police rounding up the peaceful protesters and letting the more violent ones go free. The reporters have to be in the action to report on things. The news is the most unbiased video source out there. As someone who knows a bit about the law I think many of these so called arrests will be tossed out of court for violation of many human and Charter rights.


Pretty Worried
said

The black bloc show up for most high profile summit protests and cause havoc. Many later turn out to be police undercover. There was plenty of video showing police dressed like protesters taking people into custody. So how do we know the instigators weren't somehow affiliated with some police agency?Think about it. They were allowed to break off from the main parade group. They traveled from Yonge St to University along college without anyone stopping them. And they had a few unattended police cars left behind for them to burn (those things went up pretty fast, like they were filled with accelerants).Who can we trust to really protect us now?


reidjr
said

VinceNo what needs to be done is it has to be made clear anyone cuaseing harm or damamge will face a heavy jail sentance.


dg
said

A photo of one of the anarchists who set fire to a Toronto police car shows him wearing Nike clothing, a potential indication that provocateurs dressed up as black-bloc “anarchists” were again employed by authorities to cause mayhem in order to justify a brutal police crackdown and crush free speech, as peaceful protesters were attacked and arrested while the anarchists who torched the cars were left alone.
Google for it.


Joe
said

posthocg20saidWhy did Toronto police abandon their police cars and run away when a group a masked people started breaking windows in Downtown Toronto?----------------------------------------------------------That is a question that has not been satisfactorily answered by any of those in charge. And all of those people making excuses for the police with this, give us a break. I've heard that the rank and file were told to stand down with these black bloc. I guess if they didn't let them carry on, the police would not have much excuse to intimidate peaceful protesters and pedestrians caught in the wrong place, like at Queen & Spadina.Black bloc = agent provocateurs = police, most likely.


adam
said

one more thing to add what are people protesting. The leaders were here to adress global concerns. I watched alot of the clips and never heard once people chanting anything about global concerns. All this was was a waste of time for everyone that went cause guess what people they won't listen. Pointless protests for no reasons. And all the poeople that complaine about getting their rights taken away well guess what if you would have stayed home you wouldn't have gotten arrested. And for the people who think the police take away all their rights their probably career criminals.


W Go
said

When someone commits a crime, you arrest them. The hooligans broke off from the main group and started trashing stores along College right in front of Police HQ. And there was not a single officer around to arrest them. Big boss' excuse? We let them run amok so we could arrest them later. Sounds fishy, doesn't it?Police cars left unattended only to be vandalized, I sure hope those officers are suspended for derelict of duty.I've seen pictures of the black block shedding their clothes near UofT. The just stood in a group and took it off. And there was not a single officer around to arrest them. I guess they were too busy smashing heads in at the peaceful protests.


XPIOLT
said

No mention what so ever about the police provocateurs that torched the police cars? How come? We have the photographs of them doing it and the videos of them walking passed the police formations. I don't get it. They let the Black bloc go because they are their own officers. What are the police provocateurs doing now? It looks as though they are posting comments on this article saying what a wonderful job the police did. Many of these protesters are conservatives but they want you to believe they were all liberals.
Youtube: Police Admit Using Provocateurs To Stage Riots, Police Provocateurs G20??, Evidence -- Police provoke Violence at SPP protest, quebec police admit going undercover at montebello protests, Sheriff Admits to Police Provocateurs at the RNC, Cops caught trying to provoke riot at NAU meeting, and on and on and on. Deny it if you want but the police admit it.


adam
said

All I have to say is ohhh now it's time to find someone to blame instead of all the idiots that protested


Sam Sain
said

The police became the thugs and enabled the thugs by letting the black bloc run amok along College St and attack cruisers. One story in one of the papers was from the Sgt who claims his vehicle was suddenly overrun by the black bloc. Wait a minute, these police have intelligence reports from undercover and uniformed police all the time. How could a large group of people carrying sticks and wearing black 'surprise' the police?I think the actions of Saturday's black bloc were the 9/11-type excuses used to mistreat all people of Toronto, not just the ones protesting peacefully.We now have our eyes wide open as to what the police really stand for.


Monty
said

Does anyone worry about the government imposing martial law without our knowledge? Being put into the position of enforcing this ridiculously undemocratic decision is something I wouldn't wish on anyone. I have sympathy for the difficult job the government put the Police service in... and I think we should take a serious look at democracy our government is trying to sell us. If you were tasked with enforcing a unjust law, would you? Freedom of assembly is fundamental right which has given the people a voice. To take this away so the richest few can determine the course of event is dangerously close to fascism.


PeterD
said

A quick comment from the inside ( I'm an officer ). Of course, in an ideal world there would have been no violence or damage. However, the reality is that we as a society have to recognize that there will always be people who feel the need to destroy property and hurt others. I would like to thank the majority of the sane public who supported and helped us. Please be a part of the solution now. If you have any information on the animals who chose to attack OUR city, contact your local Police. We WILL follow up and hold those who damaged or injured accountable. I HOPE the courts do so as well.


Grimriffer
said

Um, hello...the "friggin' idiots smashing windows and burning police cars" were agent provocateurs. The violence is staged. Where have you people been for the last 30 years? Canada was caught red handed attempting to stage violence before in Banff during the SPP meeting in 2009. Idiots who were posing as the anarchists were wearing the same police issue boots that the cops in uniform were wearing. They got caught and confessed to the media what they had done.

So many sleeping sheeple and so little smelling salt.


Paul Nowak
said

I just listened to some Montrealer's stating that the distruction of downtown Toronto buildings and vehicles was legitimate protesting? I think the people who make comments like this should be made to pay for the repairs and replacing the vehicles! Do some Canadians not have any common decencey?


SirTerence
said

I've just finished reading 130 posts on this topic.When all is said and done, and the Civ Lib types stop whining, this was an "extraordinary" weekend in Toronto.Given what had happened, there should never be any question about obeying the police. It's not like they were stealing your ice cream cone, they simply wanted you off the street, out of the neighbourhood, and away from the crowds for a period of 24 hours.To any reasonably sane person, does it REALLY matter if you can't walk along a certain street for a day. Are your Civil Rights REALLY being violated when you're asked to move either for your own safety?, or for the protection of someone's private property?WHAT IF, at the corner of Queen and Spadina, someone found two atomic bombs left over from WW II, and the police said, "Move away!" would the media, and other stupidly curious people really hang around to find out what might happen?


reidjr
said

I did not think things would get any worse after this weekend but some of these comments are very very scary.To twist things around as say the police were not protecting the citizens and to say the gov hired mobs and this was all there doing that in its own is very scary.Then some of you saying its like watching a 3rd world country more or less that is concerning that some of you would even think tis that bad its not.Then to say the police were to much over the top that is a concern i guess some of you would have been fine if people had died 10 times the amount of damamge was done etc.Aslo to call harper and the gov thugs why because there trying to protect the citizens of toronto.Again the black block are real protesters there not hired as many of you want to beleave.It is clear some do not fully understand the charter in short you do not have a right to do as you please.Another thing people have a right not to live in fear which some of you support taking away by supporting the criminal acts.


Rick
said

No matter where they hold these conferences these marxist crazy people show up. They cause riots everywhere they go. They are abarchist who hate capitalism. They say we are destroying the environment yet they destroy evey environment they show up in. They know how to disperse the police by their violent actions. Innocent people get caught up in the melee. That is the goal of the anarchists. Newspeople get right in the middle of things and complain if hurt or arrested. Dumb. Police are in a "Catch 22" position. Foolow the rules, listen to police and there should be little problems. Dont show up to these events when you know the nut cases are going to be there. My solution-The G-20 and the UN for that matter should buy an island somewhere and control access to that island. Then they could have all the meetings they want and have very little trouble from anarchists. And the damage to private property will cease. No more innocent people hurt. Everywhere they have a meeting now they have problems. With my idea-no problems.


jim from london
said

A dangerous situation all around... yet... nobody was killed or severely injured, so congratulations Toronto. I saw a peaceful protest in Toronto about a year ago. Police were in bright reflective clothing at the front of the crowd making sure the traffic was controlled and the protesters were safe. The protesters actually waited for the police to wave them forward at each intersection. This amazed me and made me proud. The protesters had their moment and were not in harms way. This protest was different. This type of violence and rioting has to be stopped and stopped quickly and effectively or it escalates quickly. I shudder to think what would have happened if the militant groups would have broken into the inner security areas... a frightening thought. I am also not aware of what these people were protesting. The only protest group that I saw that impressed me were pictures of a group of people dressed up as the world leaders in body suits and large masks (with maple leafs covering strategic areas as they looked butt naked) at the M8 conference. I not only laughed, I remember their sign " keep your promises". In other words, that was a statement and protest to remember. I have no doubt that the world leaders remember it as well.


Randy Andy
said

As an expatriate Canadian living in the States, I'm more disgusted by the ignorant jackasses who blame Harper and the Tories for this debacle. Uh, Ontario has an extreme leftwing Liberal government: they are in charge of all law enforcement, not the feds.


Winnipef Guy
said

Weren't they protesting the police's "special powers." Because that was actually something worth protesting.


Wasnt There
said

I wasn't there but it sounds pretty bad when you read about the police running head-first into a crowd of peaceful, unarmed protesters and beating the snot out of them while letting the wild ones run around and couse havoc.Kinda sounds like they were too chicken to take on the crazies and just beat up on the ones they knew they could take.


Phil
said

The police did well to contain this. They perhaps should have used MORE force. I understand many of these people are not even citizens? Deportation and a ban on entry may be a good idea for some of the miscreants involved in these riots.


Pro Police
said

don't act like an idiot and the police won't have to treat you like one!!!


W.S.F.
said

I am amazed that these summits are not held on some totally isolated island that is virtually unacessable to the public. They could build a fortress that in the long run would save the billions that are being spent on security. Holding events like this in places that invite troublesome situations seems the height of stupidity to me.


Old Ted
said

The police should have started cracking heads the minute trouble started. Then there are all the news people giving these idiots their five minutes of fame. Clearing the photographers out would have been a big help.


Elizabeth, Ontario
said

If these people, who are whining about being arrested by police, didn't want to be arrested they should have stayed out of the area and particularly out of the faces of our police. Police did a wonderful job of protecting the safety of the residents of Toronto. Protesters need to realize that if they cause trouble, destroy public and private property, and act like animals and act like children who are out of control, they will be arrested and held accountable. Kudos to Police!!! Let the criminal animals rot in their cages.


Gerry
said

Questioned mostley by the easteran left wing media, and all the socialists from ONT.


Gord. Robson, Nova Scotia
said

The police were in a no win situation on Sat. If they entered the huge crowd to make arrests then there would have been a lot of injuries due to the fact that many of the potesters from the "peaceful" march stayed on after the protest turned violent.Common sense is when the violence/property damage begins it is time to get out of the area and stay out. Thousands of the protesters did not show good judgement and continued to march and by doing so impeded the police. The police did not want the "peaceful" protesters to be injured if they, the police entered the crowd to make arrests. There is a lesson to be learned here, when a protest turns violent whatever cause you support no longer matters because everyone focuses on the violence. On Sunday the police had had a look at video of those doing the damage and directing the black block. The police armed with arrest warrants went looking for these people . They rounded them up sometimes finding them standing around apearing to be doing nothing wrong. When the police made the police made some of these arrests there was an out cry from some of the media that some of those arrested on Sunday were doing nothing wrong. The fact of the matter what they were being arrested/detained for was what they had done on Sat.The police did a great job but were severely hampered by people not clearing out of the area.


Leni
said

I'm very disappointed in the way that both the media is trying to spin this story and make it about the conduct of the police. Perhaps they're just angry that a couple of their reporters got detained or arrested because they got too close to the police. I think police did a great job...especially when they boxed those people in on Queen St. last night...It was a good chance for all of them to cool down and go home safely...To those who complain that they were just taking pictures or they were just in the area-you were given more than enough warning to stay out of the area and you chose to take the chance anyways...To the police, thank you very much! What a great show of force!


FergusRob
said

The only people questioning the police response seem to be the media and the people who decided on their own to be in Toronto over the weekend. I did not take a genius to figure out it might be a good weekend to stay away from downtown. The media are hyping this for ratings and selling papers. The vast majority, as your own poll suggests, people support the police and the level of force they used. Personally, and I am sure I am not alone, I would have been more than happy to see them use a lot more force than they used. Congrats to the police, who came from all over Canada, for excellent work.


blessa2
said

It's a shame that these vandals put these types of events in such a negative spotlight. The police are definitely not to blame and the peaceful protesters did not get their opportunity to express themselves. It seems these thugs should move to a country not in the G20 so they can run free and cause chaos, but, then again these cowards wouldn't survive for a day in a country that doesn't give them so many rights and freedoms! Ironic!


Bill in BC
said

Amy in TO: Poor Muffin! I'm filing your complaint next to the chick who complained she was held for 9 hours in the detention centre and only given 2 cheese sandwiches to eat. Awwww!


Mr. C
said

This is frustrating. Hooligans destroyed property at will, taunted authority, assaulted others in one form or another and we focus on how the police force dealt with them? Give me a break.Any message these clowns tried to pass on has been lost with those who created problems instead.


Tim
said

There seemed to be a lot of plain clothed policemen and yet no one could stop people from breaking windows or jumping on police cars?


Proud Torontonian
said

The police exercised maximum tolerance in a volatile situation. They could have just decided to disperse the crowd with a lot of tear gas, baton hitting, sound cannons, water cannons, or even worse..gunshots in the air. They exercised restraint even when people were getting aggressive, insulting, & even violent. Their reaction was in an appropriate level compared to what was happening. Kudos to our police...you did a very good job!


Tim
said

Nobody is exhonorating those who committed violent acts. The police cannot use that as an excuse for their over reaction on Sunday. And how can someone jump up and down on a police car and no police actually went up and arrested him? Did they not want to cut their coffee break short.


Chrome262
said

I don't think some people understand that all protest that were not held in designated areas are not legal or at least fall under the cities by-laws as obstruction and the police are mandated to disperse them. In fact if they disrupt normal city function at all, the police are charged with removing these obstructions. So any protest that happened in the streets and blocked traffic or other city services fall under that by law. Unless you have a permit, or fall under a previous agreed rout (pride for example). This is why the city (besides being cheap) will not pay for any damages done by the riots, they are not legally obligated. Sure as citizens we have the right to assemble, but that right doesn't allow for disruption or obstruction of normal municipal services or breaking the law (as in a lynch mob). Thats why its up to local regulation to over see it. So when the police ask people to leave, and they do not, you now fall under their judgement on what next occurs. think the Police could of legally done a hell of a lot worse, but they didn't.


Robbin
said

I think as Canadians we should all take a step back and thank the men and women who are our police officers. There jobs are difficult enough on a daily basis let alone during the G8 & G20. They dutifully put on their uniform and forsake their own safety for yours and mine. It is time to say Thank you!


CalgarySandy
said

@Lynn You are a proud Canadian and are proud of the actions of the government and security forces. You say those of us who believe in democracy should get out of Canada. Aside from the ignorance of this comment, that people will leave their home because some punk online says they should.

I am 4th generation Canadian and all my great grandparents and grandparents helped settle and develop this country. I still believe in what they built and it was not about giving power to the police and removing it from the populace.

As you no longer believe in the ideals of the founding nations of this country, including the Natives, you should get out. You are the one going against the proud traditions of Canada: Negotiation, compassion, diversity, acceptance. My father did not go through the liberation of Holland so I could hear someone say they are proud that our prime minister turned Toronto into an opportunity for security forces to show their machismo. It takes real men to plow into crowds that included children.

My dad was about as right wing as you can get and he would be sicked by trained professionals acting like punks. It makes me sick to see all the joy in violence pouring through the net by people who have no values of value.


Ruth
said

I am disgusted by the ingratitude shown towards the police. Firs there were complaints that not enough was done. Now there are complaints the police did too much. People should be thanking these guys for how they dealt with a bunch of criminals and vandals!The comments against Harper are equally ridiculous. Dictator? Why not try living in a country ruled by a real dictator, like, I don't know, The Sudan? I guess people living here don't know just how good they have it compared to the rest of the world.


John
said

There should only be one issue:Why are the Black Bloc always destroying property without being arrested? They trash stuff, other peaceful protesters get the blame. Regardless of the country.I read comments every day about them, and it seems that people don't understand that this group IS NOT associated with anyone who is protesting. They are provocateurs...look at what happened in Seattle back in '99.


Bob
said

Okay, Lets blame the police, standard action.Why were the Peaceful Marchers allowing the Bloc twits to take away from there peaceful purpose during the march. I watched a 10 min clip on CTV showing the twits causing damage and ther was only one man who actually stopped one Bloc tool, everyone else just watched ,which makes them jsut as guilty. The police cars I saw burning were abandon because the officers were alone with a large crowd approaching. Cars lit on fire, most likely by the Bloc twits however the peaceful marchers let it happen as well.ISU did not get sucked in to the situation on Sat because they were ensuring the integrity of the security fence, which was most likely their primary mission. If they pull people off the fence it creates a weak point to which the well organized Bloc twits would surely exploit. I also agree with several comments re the media, you knew you could get caught up in sweeps and choose to in order to get a story and a name for yourself.Yes there were failures at different points but lets be sure to remember that it was not only the police who "failed to act" and deal with it


SK Freedom Lover
said

Don't point the finger at the police - they did an admirable job given the difficult circumstances...if it were up to me, I would've been a LOT harder on our black attired friends...


Dave in Courtenay
said

My compliments to the police for a difficult job well done. A major challenge was to identify and isolate troublemakers from legitimate protestors. Keeping people safe from each other is what Canadian peacekeeping is all about, whether at home or abroad. I hope those caught, charged and convicted on vandalism get put on a lifetime "no-fly" list, and are henceforth ineligble for a passport. If such penalties were understood in advance, those with more than half a brain might decline to participate in the future.


Dave
said

I am proud of our police force for standing up to these rioters
I do not find anything about the rioters to be proud about , they lost what little credibility they had , with the violence,smashing of windows and burning of police cars.
To those who question why the police left their cars that were set on fire...are you just plain stupid ? Why on earth would a handful of police risk injury or even death to go up against 500 or more rioters to try to protect a piece of machinery that can be replaced?
Also there are a lot of anti police posts , spewing the same sort of irrelevant garbage that was spewed during protests in the 60's,70's 80's and 90's .
You will never convince me that your actions or verbal diarrhea is relevant to legitimate non violent protests



catwoman 38
said

I hate to break the news to you all that love the police after the crap they went through, but I did hear a complaint coming from somebody who was with the NP reporter in the detention centre.Has anybody stopped to think that maybe some of the reporters were not notified about the new rules?


Jason P
said

Mike - tanks? abolish the charter of rights? waa waa I guess you thought you had a right to march and destroy other peoples property because, hey, you have rights too? Way to over-sensationalize, hopefully you lost a few teeth trying to defend your rights.


anonymous
said

Okay.when I read about how many protesters were arrested, I was absolutely shocked. The canadian government is trying to help and do something to our country canada. Why do such hooligans have to smash cars, set them on fire and throw or destroy some glass windows of starbucks coffee place in toronto. Why... I'm sure when tourists from different countries, Iran, India or Ireland must be horrified to see the disgraceful photos of such hooligan protesters destroying part of toronto. It's embarrassing to look at this on t.v. I'm glad that most of these so called protesters were arrested for vanadlism, profanity and bad language or shouting.


Kojak
said

5 police vehicles being torched is not security, sorry to say.


Wayne
said

I don't understand why they have to be there to protest in the first place. But it all goes back to the same old saying-- 95% of them where good it only took 5% to wreck it for everyone. Now we blame the police!!! Get real!


Syl
said

The police did a very comendable job and if anything, should have been tougher. The 'Black Bloc' or whatever those vandles call themselves, along with all other vandles, should have been tranquilized and hauled about 1000 Kl. north and then released. I know we couldn't do that but at least they should be locked up for as long as possible with the very minimum of niceties, ie; toilet facilities etc.


Innadiated
said

The rioters were police provacateurs. They were allowed to get away, they were protected, and they are used to justify police action like you saw on Sunday.The burned police cars were a photo op. Don't believe me, go google "quebec police spp admit"You'll find links referring to undercover police, dressed as protestors, that were in Montebello in 2007. They were caught by the protestors, then dive into the police line (video on youtube).The police did their typical job of oppressing free speech and protecting their banking masters. They were not there for the citizens of Toronto, they were there to protect the bankers and the fence, and to not let any Toronto citizens peacefully protesting near it. This violates our charter of rights and freedoms.Thats ok though, all you commentors who thank the police for their great job in protecting the leaders and banksters who are ripping us off will find out soon just what new world order the G20 is talking about. Its not about democracy, or prosperity.

JB
said

Some of those protesters can be so saucy.


Kathy W.
said

Where the heck is Jack Bauer when you need him?????


Lea
said

My baby cousin, a British Columbia University Student, who was at the conference to photograph the protests for UBC Student Union was arrested and has been charged in connection with the Black Bloc simply because he has a french last name. This is so ridiculous. He is just a kid who was in the wrong place at the wrong time. The Police MUST be questioned, but first our family is working to get him released from jail. Why is a University kid, at the protest to take pictures still in jail? Anyone who thinks the police do not need to be questioned need to ask themselves, what if we lost the right in Canada to peacefully protest because of the horrible actions of a few people? What would our country look like then? Would we still live in a free and democratic society?


*facepalm*
said

It's not a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situation. The police didn't do their jobs on Saturday and make arrests during the Black Bloc riots, and then they didn't do their jobs on Sunday when they arrested non-violent demonstrators. Either the police are cowards and can't handle the bad seeds, or they're just stupid and incompetent.

tom91
said

Just because you are "peacfully" protesting doesnt mean you can go wherever you please. Just because you are not being aggressive doesn't mean you can walk past a police blockade. I think the police should have been rougher with all those hippies. Get a JOB!
They got what they deserved and the "innocent" people caught in the middle should have known better.


Maxx
said

The Police did a Horrible Job. Arresting "Peaceful Protesters" because of a few Scumbags who lit their Police cars on fire is Unacceptable. I think the Harper and Government has just lost the next election.


Cathy
said

While I watched the melee downtown over the weekend, I was disgusted, not by the police, but bu other so called protesters who let these jerks cause all their damage - why no "citizen's arrests" - instead, there you were with your phone cameras taking pictures of smashing windows and burning cars and then you wonder why you get caught up in police sweeps? You should have left when the violence started if you were so concerned about having your rights trounced. I think the police had an extremely hard job and they would be damned if they do and damned if they don't, but nevertheless, they did what they were supposed to do which was to keep people safe. I just hope people will turn into police pictures they have of these thugs so more can get caught and charged.


Just My Thoughts
said

Criticize them for not cracking down on Saturday and then do just the opposite on Sunday ... this happens every time there are these types of meetings anywhere in the world. It's a lose/lose situation for those in charge of security.I just wonder what percentage of those who gathered to protest (whether it me peaceful or not0 have ever had a real job in their life.


Al in Orillia
said

Journalists are not innocent in this thing and are all looking for airtime. "If it bleeds, it leads" these people don't make a living by reporting that everything is wonderful and the system is great. They look for dirt and know full well that if they pick out every flaw in the system that they can find, they'll be put on the air.It used to be a vocation, now it's just exploitation.What about the summit? What about comments from world leaders? What about interviewing international media that were covering the meetings? All we saw all weekend was the reporters tripping over each other to get a shot of the thugs breaking things. Slam the government all you want but the reporters are becoming ambulance chasers and are staging the photo ops. How sad!


Elaine Mudge
said

It seems to me the government hired the rent a mob anarchists. Given they were doing untold damage on Saturday and lighting police cars why was there no intervention. Or do the police not care about people's property at theFederal Government behest. Given the police cars could have exploded injuring everyone around and all the other police cars had their own fire extinguisher, how come they didn't any of the attempt to put out the blaze. It seems a bit curious to me that perhaps the cars were plants with no gas in them left for the vandals to destroy. Harper and cronies need to justify their profligate spending and ignore our civil right to legitimately protest. What is this country coming to for a bunch of so called leaders who care little about anything especially the environment, the climate or poverty. I despair of this country these days under the tyranny of Harper and cronies. Cunning the way the government has asserted that the poor victims of these crimes have to pay for the damage themselves. The people the police treated like garbage yesterday were not the aforementioned thugs so what about their rights, disgusting. Dear oh dear what are we coming to.


Allan K, Vancouver, BC
said

I am appalled at the fact most seem to favour the police. Stop being hypocrites about the media slanting the story towards the protesters, because you’re doing exactly the SAME thing in favour of the police, and both sides did something wrong over those two days.


Sandusky
said

This headline is misleading as it presupposes that it is the police that were up to something sinister. The headline should read "Protester actions questioned following G20 weekend." The people who plan these protests have a responsibility to their communities to ensure that they do not attract fringe groups who just out to commit acts of terrorism. The responsibility for this weekend's turmoil in Toronto lays squarely with the protesters and their leaders for their failure to quell the extreme elements of their causes.


Jim McB
said

Some illiterates read sections of the "Charter" and think they have an obligation to get out there and wreak havoc.The media incites them with weeks of focus, almost marketing the idea of holding protests.The police get to deal with the abuse, the fake claims of injury, the scorn of the crowd while bundled in hot protective clothing.What the "Charter" and the fools that drafted it forgot is that the general public has an overriding right to safety.The police acted brilliantly, people who were dumb enough to be in the area deserve what they got, and the media should hang it's head in shame.If you watch with a trained eye you can see the villains reacting to the constant updates on police and crowd movements as they answered their cell phones. The real time coverage of these turkeys provided a violent protester data link so they could coordinate action!


JFK
said

G20 takes the cake; it’s not bad enough that Stephen Harper acts like Canadian tax payers are made of money as he squander cash around the world and Canadians accumulate billions of dollars in debt and being taxed to death; but this G20 was disgusting. Protest groups were upbeat and peaceful consisting of; Justice for out community, Indigenous Rights marchers, Anti-Capitalist Convergence group and many other peaceful groups. Many came to protests about Canadian hunger and child poverty or just to get recognition for a cause being held deer. As G20 governing authority with extreme force arrests about 900 innocent protesting Canadian citizens conveying their freedom of expression for a better Canada and a better environmental world Canada becomes a stage. I watched media televise as arrests started with a death person that could not hear what he was being told by police, then media, individuals walking home after watching a soccer game in a local pub, tourists, graduates from the University of Western Ontario studying political science and peace studies, etc. Many were being held for 4 hours in a down pour of rain, kicked, beaten, disallowed bathroom privileges or food and possible medications. I watched video clips on news channels of the violence; many were showing the camera persons their bruises, cameras showed one media member being punched in the face by police for no apparent reason; another media member that was arrested talked about the person next to him showing signs of concussion and not receiving medical help. People from Canada, elsewhere and media trying to inform Canadians of what’s happening in Canada were being treated like animals by Canadian authorities in the eyes of the world. In embarrassment I felt like it was watching something out of Red Square. Who’s the thugs here the Canadian Government and Police or the Black Bloc protesters? Human rights have been smeared with disregard to the generations that have worked so hard to build it and for what Canada now use to stand for. If Blair referred to the Black Bloc protesters as "violent anarchists" what does that make Canadian Government and the Policing authority?


Sam
said

How can any of you defend the police after seeing that video? Shame on you and shame on the police for acting the way they did.


Jordan
said

Why is nobody talking about the cages they setup at the film studios where they held people without reason for over 24 hours. They treated human beings like animals, WHY is nobody talking about that!


Esther
said

To Nicole....the RCMP was there as part of the ISU and was arresting/detaining alongside the Toronto Police so get your facts straight.


Dave Brake
said

The police did a great job showing far more patience than most. It seems to me the truly inocent where smart enough to stay at home and not cause problems down town. Your mere presence there put more strain on securities already tough job. If you didn't want anything to happen you shouldn't have been face to face with police who were just trying to do their jobs!


Jennifer
said

Wow... as if I wasn't appalled enough by the actions of the violent and/or destructive protesters, reading the comments on this story make me almost ashamed to be Canadian. Many of you fail to catch the difference between the destructive hooligans and the peaceful protesters who were well within their rights yet apprehended anyway. Letting the complete chaos and destruction take place on Saturday only to try and "repair the damage" on Sunday by arresting innocent civilians and peaceful protesters is absolutely ridiculous. As the Canadian public, we should be much more critical of the powers that govern our country rather than mindlessly commending the work of officers, particularly when much of that work should not be commended. I will say that, for the most part, I feel like the officers involved did the best they could given the circumstances. However, they went WAY too far, and I hope that all involved parties are able to see that sooner than later.


Lis
said

I am an American who happened to be at the G20 during the protests (I didn't realise the G20 was going to be in TO that day until I had already booked a hotel). I went down to get a look at the protesting at Queens Park--and yes, the police were, in fact, causing more chaos than the protesters. The group of people in the park were largely on-lookers and passive protesters. They were not doing anything illegal, but the police started pushing them back and driving horses through the crowd, which only caused more chaos than would have happened had they just stood there and kept order. I had to run from the police--and all I was doing was standing around watching the protests--and that's not right.Sure, the police were just doing their job, and yes, whenever there's something like the G20 occurring there will ALWAYS be people who want to have protests turn violent and destructive--but the real blame here lies with the fools who thought hosting the G20 in Toronto was a good idea. How much money was wasted on this? How much does a Skype call cost? It's the 21st century and we're STILL meeting in person? What about the new iPhone? It doesn't have an inward-facing camera for nothing!


Zac
said

What is even the point of these protests? It always happens the same way. The police get abused and attacked, and then blamed for not doing enough or doing too much. Innocent people get hurt because they get caught between the police and the idiots who are just out to smash stuff. Private property is destroyed. The message the peaceful protesters are trying to get across is ignored because the media only focus on the violent protesters and the police reaction to them. People need to learn that there is no point in protesting, the only thing governments pay attention too is elections and corporations only care about their bottom line. So if you don't like the way the world is run go out and vote or run for office, and if you don't like what companies are doing don't buy their products and encourage your friends and family to do the same.


stanley
said

These "protesters" who claim to be peaceful should have left the area and denounced those who were violent. Not doing this leaves them open to any police action if they are caught up in it. Leave the cowards to the police and come back the next day to get your message across, if you have one.


Brendan
said

I love how there's almost NO sympathy for the protestors among these comments. It gives me faith in my fellow countrymen.As for the ones blaming Harper, pull your damned heads out of the collective glue bag.


Ken Chng
said

We should have a total banned of ANY protestng. Since it is 100% uterly useless to start with. I careless to those who got hurt in the protest. They should have expected that they will be hurt.


JFJ
said

Excellent Police work. Everybody knows that kind of order and justice they would get from the Mob.


Amy in T.O.
said

Five hours trapped in the street in record-breaking rainfall is torture. I was there, and several people were just trying to do their usual weekend business – going to work, or grabbing a drink with friends. The police did not provide any information, or give any directions, orders or warnings. The reason everyone blocked the street is because the police were already there blocking Spadina. We thought they would tell us which way to go. Holding us in the rain like that with no shelter was torture. After 2 hours in the rain, they told us we'd be packed onto buses. That was the first time they spoke. It was awful!


Mike
said

Maybe the Charter of Rights should be abolished. Then Harper and McGuinty can send in the tanks. Is this the Canada you want?


Summit A Riot
said

Of course we need police to protect the politicians and their gang. Of course we need police to protect the public. Of course we need the police to protect those legitimate protesters. Of course we need police to arrest those responsible for violence and damage. What bothers me however, is that those same police stood back and watched 4 of their cars getting torched and businesses being vandalized and did nothing to stop it until it had become such a media sensation as to justify the presence of 10,000 (yep, count'em) cops and over a billion dollar security budget. The cops were plain and simply politicking and it cost them nothing to do it as I'm sure in that billion dollars there is an amount set aside to cover anticipated damages for the 4 $40,000 police cars (hopefully, as well, something for businesses who go uninsured for damages arising from riot or insurrection). In the end, Harper, Fantino and the local Toronto policing authorities have succeeded in making democratic protesting once again appear to be a bad thing by allowing the truly unlawful protesters to grab the attention of a media all too eager for sensationalism. We are heading for serious trouble in this country when government and police suppress the democratic expression of protest through such blatant inaction and misguided brutality. No one should sanction the "Black Block" anarchists but equally so, no one should sanction the actions, and inaction, of the political police!


Diane
said

I hope that all of the journalists standing in the crowd looking for ratings had a proper scaring done to them. All week long prior to the event they were showing past riot clips and I guess hoping that they would score with more footage.The Riff Raff that destroyed property should all be photographed and identified. If not Canadian they should be deported immediately to where they came from at their own expense.Canadians should have a record that will prevent them from traveling anywhere else to protest. They are so proud of their cause that they are cowards and hide their faces!The stupid peaceful people who with their dogs and kids at risk decided to plonk themselves in the midst of the confrontation between the riff raff and the police only have themselves to blame if they were roughed up or detained.They should have this summit next time in Moscow or China...then they would really have something to talk about . At least these twits have the right if not the common sense to put themselves in danger..over there not so much.


Sean
said

The only complaint I would have against the polices actions over the week end is why didn't they have a shoot to kill order to get rid of all of those idiots that were just there to cause trouble.


Fantasm
said

The number of arrested are meaningless... The only number that matters is how many or how few get convicted...
The rest were either just window dressing to put a 'spin' on it, or a sign of police incompetence... Take your pick... but let's see how it plays out in court...


skully
said

Jesse Rosenfeld is not a journalist, when does running a blog make you a journalist? he also said on CBC that he did not have PRESS credentials. hmmm really makes me want to take his side of things..


Kathy in Winnipeg
said

I am tired of the media criticizing the police for arresting thugs. If these losers had not shown up and started a riot, the police would not have had to do anything. Shame on those terrorists - that's what the anarchists should be called - Canadians stand behind the police and not the thugs!


Westerner
said

Protestors destroying Private Property - I support the Police! Freedom of speach is on thing - distroying another persons property is a breach of the Law! Those who got in the way - what were you thinking - you cannot overpower a crowd of protestors! Those that didn't watch what was going on - pay attention next time - prevention/awareness is the basis of any defence!


Steve Eros
said

How laughable it is for those that blame Harper for the violence. The lefties in Toronto keep reminding us what a world class city Toronto is. Now they complain that the summit should not have been taking place at the centre of the universe? That's rich! This summit takes place every year, sometimes twice per year. Are we saying that Canada is not fit to host these international events?


RankandFile
said

Knowing full well what they could expect by holding this summit in an urban setting,blame the supposed intelligent people who run this country for holding this thing right smack in the middle of one of our largest cities.Toronto just got a gift from all taxpayers, who will end up paying to restore Toronto after this thing,along with the previous costs of putting it all together.Next time you want to hold a summit here in Canada,try finding a secluded island or head for the tundra, where the cost will be cheaper and little damage can be done.


Alethia
said

I hope we get the evidence to nail those ... erm perps.I hope they get fined to the max. At least it could go to part of the interest on the billion bucks Canadians have to pay because of them.


Graham Wright
said

We have had all this talk about the civil rights of protestors. What about the civil rights of store owners that have had their store windows smashed. Second if you are wearing a face mask you should be arrested immediately. What are you hiding. The police did a fabulous job. Former Toronto resident Graham Wright Victoria Beach , NS


carlynot
said

Hey cmon, protest in canada, what do people think we have here, a democracy? This is the way harper would like to see everyone who disagrees with him treated.


Fantasm
said

I watched the videos of a couple of hundred, 220+ lbs armoured riot cops, with shields and batons, surrounding a bunch of skinny kids and crying girls in the rain... Taunting the kids by telling them to go home but not letting them out. Then charging in and throwing them down on the pavement to arrest them for apparently nothing...

This is going to do wonders for Toronto's image... bye bye tourism


Vince
said

This has been an ongoing problem in democratic states for as long as we can remember. APEC (1997) and WTO (1999) also had the same allegations of police brutality levelled against peaceful protesters and media. While not defending the police actions, it's unfortunate that people tend to react violently in extremely high-stress and tense situations and simply differenciate threat levels. This happens in just about any police controlled crowd situation.I'm just wondering what it all means - if we seriously need to rethink how we're managing police presence of events like this, or if it just means that the rules of democracy are summarily ignored when hosting foreign nations.


JustJeff1972
said

Honestly, I think the police did a fantastic job out there given the circumstances. Unfortuately, some people have had their feelings hurt; well, you know what, too damn bad! I have no issue with people legitimately protesting; one of the things that makes this country great. HOWEVER, when you have said your piece, pack up and move on. The police gave more than ample chances/warnings for these individuals to move along, and they did not. They(the protestors) chose to stay in defiance of the law and were placed under arrest. Try doing what you did down in some other country where the police would resort to using extreme violence and/or live ammuntion first, before anything else.


infowarsdotcom
said

i would also like to add if you were a hardcore protester and hated the government and G20/G8 and you thought violence was a means to an end would you really have the guts to burn a police car without any thought of reprocusion? they dont consider it cuz they know they will be allowed to and that police are ordered down during anarchists events at protests cuz they benefit from larger and larger security bugets ...they do it cuz they know they are allowed to research the black bloc in seatle at the WTO police were ordered to stand down while peaceful protesters got hurt but not the black bloc they got put up in a building and left no charges or montebello manitobe RCMP admitted they dressed there cops as anarchists its admitted


B. Kelley, Ontario
said

There are no innocent bystanders in a riot. If you are there then you are a participant. Your involvement is only a matter of degree and you are subject to arrest. If anyone expects the police to be selective, kind and gentle when they are being assaulted with rocks, bottles and insults hurled at them by a mob then they are living with Tinkerbell in Neverland. As to how those who were arrested were treated, what did they expect? A suite at the Sheraton with room service? They got basic food, water and a place to go to the bathroom. That's all they were due. If most of those protesters, and I include the foolish spectators, were subjected to what the police had to deal with they would have been wantonly crushing skulls instead of showing the kind of professionalism we witnessed.


K.M.Campbell
said

Jack's raging bile duct wrote: "...I blame Harper. Stupid move putting the G20 in Toronto..."_______________________________________Where would you have him put it?The fact is that thousands (I've heard as many as ten thousand) of participants attended the G20 Summit.The only places, in Canada, that can accomodate(hotel rooms, conference centre, etc.) an international conference, of this size, is in one of Canada's major cities, Montreal, Toronto or Vancouver.It was Canada's turn to host the G8 summit and Huntsville was earmarked as the locale.Then, Canada was awarded the G20 Summit. This was wholly unprecedented. Never before has any other country been required to host both the G8 and the G20 simultaneously.With the G8 leaders already in Huntsville, Toronto was the nearest major city and obvious choice for the subsequent G20 gathering.Incidentally, had Harper held the Summits somewhere in the West, there would almost certainly have been howls of outrage and accusations of using the Summits for "partisan politics", catering to the Tory voting base, etc.,etc.


Dan - S.Alberta
said

Well there goes a Billion dollars of our money well wasted...Why didn’t the fed's listen to David Miller in the first place? When the leaders all gathered in K-country in Alberta several years ago it made so much more sense. Have it out in the mountains where there would have been NO bystanders getting caught up in the B.S. period. Everyone showing up would have had an agenda to be there no question, it’s not like you could have just strolled by on your way home. There are plenty of places in Ontario removed from heavily populated urban areas. Having this downtown Toronto was just stupid plain and simple, it just re-enforces my view of the government and their serious lack of common sense and judgment. Come on Ottawa give your head a shake, maybe pull it out of your rear end while you’re at it, thanks for wasting MY tax dollars! Well if you still thought downtown was a good idea why didn’t they just pay everyone in Toronto a million bucks, I doubt there would have been anyone downtown except the police and the world leaders… it would have been far cheaper! I would like to see public details on the security contracts and where the billion dollars went, more specifically whose pockets its currently lining - I want my money back! Way to go Harper and the rest of the clowns in Ottawa involved in this fiasco, I will expect a kiss next time!


David in NB
said

I saw that video of the "Oh Canada" charge. They let them sing. Then, near the end, some begin to sit down on the street, indicating that they were going nowhere. That's when the police charged. The message was clear: move along, allow the streets to be used as intended: by cars, etc. Well done to ALL police in Toronto this weekend!


Amber in Thunder Bay
said

It was citizens that gave them an impossible job to do. People bent on destroying and causing trouble. Tell me, did your message get out??? Jumping from walls, torching cars and destroying neighbours businesses and a formerly beautiful piece of downtown TO did not get your message across to me. And not only did you ruin any credible message you had, but you also DESTROYED the opportunity for those using peaceful demonstrations. I feel shame that Canadians acted this way. We are a democratic society and what happened this weekend was a form of terrorism, using threats and violence to get what you want without considering who you hurt in the interim. I do feel for the citizens who were unfortunatly wrapped up in the violence and therefore the aftermath, but where was your common sense? When those around you donned belaclavas and started smashing windows, perhaps you should have headed home and not stuck around to witness and therefore support this ridiculous and offensive behaviour. I applaud the TO officers, you had a difficult job to do and I think you did well despite the situation. I am glad that no one was killed or seriously wounded in this random violence and hope that next time people will remember there are better and more effective ways to be heard.


Derek Hunt
said

What happened on Saturday with legitimate protest being hijacked by thugs allowed to run riot in our streets angered and disgusted me.What happened on Saturday however at Queen and Spadina frightened me as a Canadian accustomed to having rights and freedoms. Fully credentialled news crews and camera people being plucked out of a crowd where they have every right to be. CP24 was the only news station that offered continuous coverage even though they no longer had any cameras within the human prison. CTV Newsnet signed off a few minutes after Lisa Laflamme lost her feed and the camera went dead. At the Police news conference, four and a half hours after this disgusting event unfolded, the Police gave what were probably very good reasons for doing what they did, but not one person from the media asked why news and camera people were removed from the crowd. You're supposed to be our eyes and ears. I realize you had no control over being removed but the least you could do is ask some tough questions and demand answers on behalf of us all. Shameful.


Shawn from Edmonton
said

Nicole wrote:Just be thankfull it was the Toronto police not the RCMP, or all protesters would have been joyfully tasered to death with impunityUnfortunately Nicole, the RCMP was there...and like all the contributing Police Forces from around Canada who participated in the Summit Security, performed in a a professional manner exibiting unprecidented restraint despite being attacked by fish hooks, ball bearings, rocks, bricks and urine/chorline filled bottles!! I am ashamed that Canadians have allowed a few outspoken, left wing, barnacles of society hold the Police accountable for everyone's actions!


infowarsdotcom
said

why do you think the black bloc get to run around and do whatever they want and dont get arrested because they are financed to fly around the world by the new world order and police are ordered to not intervein......then the hounds are released on peaceful protesters and giving real peaceful protest a bad name they are government provacatuers just research montebello manitoba protests where the RCMP admitted they hired police to dress as anarchists so that they could release the hounds on the peaceful protesters but they were stopped , these black bloc are not tatooed street hoodlums they are well built police officers and well some doops just research who benefits from this and think to yourself why how much money was spent on security whos pockets get lined? more violence means more bugets think about......


Gord
said

Just like our troops if you don't stand behind them, feel free to stand in front of them!!


Bill Blair Should resign.
said

Bill Blair needs to resign. Bring back Fantino.Too little force used when needed.Too much force used when not needed.


Adam
said

Police did a superb job. Well done!


Matthew from Toronto
said

I'm concerned about the reports of the situation inside the holding centre. Hours of being refused to go to the bathroom? There's a certain degree of human dignity I expect from the justice system. Many were released without even being charged. It's easy to dismiss these reports because it's hard to believe those who were arrested. I would just like it looked into so the truth can come out and people can make a decision from there.I want the violent protesters brought before a judge please don't get me wrong. Hopefully we'll be able to look at the events of this weekend after emotions have cooled down so the truth will not be clouded by anger.


ronin
said

Timothy said : "When it comes to trusting journalists take on things (many out there who sympathize with the left wing nut jobs) or the police, I'll take the police."Red China, North Korea and Iran agree with you completely.


Sober, Newmarket
said

No sympathy with those who stirred up the violence. May they be prosecuted and put away for a long time. Sorry for the innocent who got caught in it all, but maybe they should find a safer way to voice their protest; if you get close to the fire, you might get scorched.It is not simple for the police either; in such a situation you cannot always make the right decision that will please everybody all the time. They did an excellent job.


mrlee
said

I would put dollars to doughnuts that the Black Block was composed of police officers.What better way to justify an obscene security budget, and at the same time, arrest and fingerprint innocents that disagree with the present police state order. Good thinking - I feel safer already!


ronin
said

The defenders of the Saturday do-nothing cops are pathetic.


Enough Already
said

Please don't waste more time and money on this than already has. It's over now, clean-up and move on!

Nothing will come out of a police probe. Whatever governing body oversees that probe, will find no wrong-doing on the part of the Police.


Shelley Crawford
said

If we didn't have thugs destroying everything in sight on purpose, we wouldn't need riot police.
If the G-20 delegates didn't bring so many within their entourage to the summits ( 1 country had 1,000 people with them ), we wouldn't need to use a big city to house them all.We could host the Summit in a smaller town. Try Manitoulin Island and set up temporary housing units.
The police were terrific. They did their job! For the few innocents, perhaps that got caught up within the arrested group, you didn't need to come down to protest. You get what you deserve.


Duane in Calgary
said

Other than the police not doing enough against the Black Bloc (they should have opened up with the rubber bullets), I think they did what they felt they had to do given the circumstances and did a fine job overall.

As for complaints from bystanders and reporters, too bad. They willingly placed themselves in what they knew would be volatile situations and, as one would expect, got caught up with others when the police moved in. How were the police supposed to know the difference between an innocent person and a guilty one when they're all intermingled? A little common sense goes a long ways but it sure seems to be in short supply these days.


robert from toronto
said

Please do not let the violent acts of a few brand all those who were out the streets. The way I see it, these protesters are extremely concerned about issues they feel are extremely urgent and noble in intention (i.e. upping environmental protection, moving towards ethical business relations, ensuring the availability of healthcare and food worldwide, etc.) Most of these protesters are not anti-establishment or violent! The majority are peaceful and want to see capitalism and politics run more ethically and more transparent. In general, the ideals these protesters are fighting for are not without merit. Violence on either side should not be commended as it goes against those noble intentions.

These summits are always reacted to with acts of extremism and violent protest world wide, period. Maybe this means something? Toronto was pretty tame in the grand scheme of things. Based on recent global events, issues of violence do not resolve well when reacted to with more acts of violence (i.e. Afghanistan, Iraq). The way I see it, people turn to violence and extremism out of desperation to be heard and have their political participation, or desire their for, to be acknowledged by their elected leaders. These protesters are more politically engaged and active civilly than your average Canadian (who might not even vote!). If we need anything in Canada, it is more direct (peaceful) political engagement and awareness in the general population! These G20 meetings do not communicate directly with the people these representatives are elected to represent and work for! If these people want to participate, why not allow them to engage directly with politicians in some fashion that is not simply symbolic (i.e. the free speech zone) or one way letters to parliament? These people want 2-way dialogue and this could be addressed practically.


c.lee
said

One wonders why we spent a billion for security. The police were passive and nowhere in sight when hooligans were destroying properties & burning policecars on saturday.,Deciding to change to a firm policy on Sunday resulted in non-violent protesters being treated more harshly while the saturday criminals escaped any punishment. The police should have been firm from the start.


Paul
said

They should round up the idiots and jail them. Better yet, stick em in the army and send them off to Afghanistan. Why are we lettig our good people die when these idiots are running free. Send the idiots into battle and let them earn the right to walk the streets again.


Karen
said

Kudos to Toronto Police. I thought they showed remarkable restraint in the face of colossal stupidity and senseless violence.Protestors do have the right to peaceful demonstration but they should also be prepared for the risk they take in mingling with other protestors who may turn violent. Suck it up already people!Thank God for our police force!!


anthony c.
said

they (stevie) needed saturday, to justify not only what happened sunday (where every body is guilty), but to justify $1.1 billion. I (tax payer) want to know where my money was spent, and was it spent properly.


Jean Paul
said

Those who defend the police amaze and disgust me.

The official job of police is to defraud, extort, and brutalize the peasants on behalf of political masters. If there is any protecting or serving going on, it is only by clumsy accident.

Black-clad, armed and armored head-to-toe, masked, anonymous and unaccountable among hundreds of their kind - these storm troopers occupied and terrorized the city for a week. They are the true 'black bloc' who precipitate violence by their very presence.


ronin
said

Kim said : "The police actions are in questions? What about the friggin' idiots smashing windows and burning police cars? "The police cars that were abandoned by police? And were they the same police that stood around and watched the uncontrolled fires in downtown Toronto, doing nothing?YES, questions....


Shawn from Edmonton
said

You can please some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time; but you can't please all of the people all of the time. It is truly disheartening to view today's headline after CTV reporters spent all day Saturday and most of Sunday commenting on the professionalism Police exhibited. There is a hierarchy: Life and limb is at the top! Perhaps today's headline should have read: Despite violent activists' extensive vandalism, attacks on Police and attacks innocent store employees, Police report no serious injuries during Toronto Protests!! Unfortunately the majority of Police supporters have jobs, family and other priorities that do not afford us the time to keep the media's finger pointing and accountability directed in the appropriate direction...at the "activists" who chose to exploit the Charter of Rights and Law Enforcement's tolerance to perpetrate violent acts.


John, Halifax, NS
said

Good to see the average CTV'er not phased this morning. Yes, you're all right, because of 100 or so people causing damage, ALL Canadians should give up the core and major freedoms we enjoy like, a right to remain silent, right to know the charges against you, the right to legal counsel in a timely manner. Yep, sure am glad you bunch who have posted above me today are proud to destroy what Millions of Canadians died fighting for. Yes, probably including some of your parents or grandparents, perhaps they didn't spank you enough as a child, or perhaps you're just too uneducated to learn.


Chester
said

Wow! The police were as embarrassing as Harper! First the police sit back & watch the destruction. Then they attack legal protesters. The whole event is a black eye for Canada.


Vince
said

For $1B, they should have had the protesters identified, isolated, and wrapped up 2 weeks ago. Then they do post event damage control and arrest the non violent protesters the next day. Political incompetents led this process.


L MG
said

We do, in this so-called civilized nation, have a right to public assembly and peaceful protest, within agreed parameters. We need a way to have our voices heard, our concerns expressed when we have lost faith in our political representatives. It is unfortunate that there is a violent element exploiting the presence of peaceful protesters. But that can occur even when a sports team wins...or losses. Idiots do idiotic things. The actions of certain police personnel however, and the force in general, especially on Sunday, were a ridiculous show of adrenaline washed, bully tactics and mindless para-militaristic brutishness that was beyond legitimate efforts to 'contain' a peaceful crowd. This did not make the Toronto constabulary look “no-nonsense and tough”, it made them look like inexperienced, undisciplined rookies, certainly at event management and crowd control. They looked like amateurs and buffoons. I never thought Kent State could happen here. But it can. “To Serve and Protect” ? On the contrary…


derek
said

I am a liberal party supporter for the most part (every party has it's people who shouldn't be their cough cough ontario pre..) but I am disappointed after the great job we did as Canadians to come together and show the world how truly great a country we are and how great a people we are with the Vancouver Olympics that the world has been given a different image of Canada due to a small select group of thugs. I am proud of the 90 - 95 percent of the protesters that did it the right way and actually tried to push a real message not just destroying innocent peoples business and as a result put extra hardship on them, their wives, husbands, sons daughters they had no thought of what their actions might do to others. We live in a country that allows us the right to speak our mind in a lawful way, I can't believe the people that are saying the police went to far did any one really expect them to do nothing and let people just ruin others lives we have the right to free speech not the right to destroy private and public property. As for the wall people are complaining about we live in a time were some of those world leaders are prime targets for attack they did what they had to to protect the world leaders and the people living in the Toronto area(although in future world leaders should consider just using the UN building designed for world leaders coming together it would be safer and wouldn't cost a country anything but that is a separate issue)


Paul
said

Those who are acting stupid should be the ones getting questioned. How UnCanadian of anybody trying to justify the actions of the protesters.


Joe
said

Why question the police actions, while downtown Toronto was vandalised by a small bunch of hooligans and ruffians whose agenda is still questionable?Those caught in the cross-fire -too bad, that is the reality of the suitation when tension prevails and the police are trying to "contain" a volatile situation


Proud Canadian
said

Good Job Police!Your hard work is one of the main reasons Canada is a great place to live in.


Mike
said

People praising ALL of the actions by police and denouncing every protester as if they were all anarchist trouble makers need to get a grip.

The police were ghosts in the actual violent and destructive scenario with the black bloc in the downtown core. They ditched their vehicles open in the street and did nothing to stop the crimes taking place in front of their eyes.

Then the next day they decided that LAWFUL protesters were not going to get away with their "atrocities", so they were denied their rights.

This was no Seattle, but looking at the FACTS, the police were no Saints.




Frank
said

Screwed if you do screwed if you don't. Everybody hates the cops until you need one, then they can't get there fast enough.I completely blame the media for attempting to create this circus to look so negative against the Prov & Fed Gov't and their decisions. Shame for only reporting half the story to make it sound more appetizing to the public.


cranky old man
said

With the picture in this article showing one of the people in black comitting a criminal act while the media stands around and watches. Maybe they should have been a good citizen and made a citizens arrest. The media must of thought it was his and others in black their legal right to damage property but say the police were wrong in their actions. The police were there to do a difficult Job with no help from the media or the protesters that did not control the people in their groups.


sarah
said

I support the actions of the police 100%. I am sick and tired of violent thugs 'protesting' by smashing windows and torching police cars and local businesses. As for those who claim it's an isolated few who make the majority look bad, I have one thing to say: You allow these people into your midst and allow them to protest with you. Don't be surprised when the police come into your midst to arrest them. If you really cared you would shoo them away from your ranks,


Jeff
said

Let's not forget who the arch-criminals are in this story: the plunderers at the World Bank and the IMF who enslave Third World countries with mountains of debt they can never escape.


albertaclipper
said

As one who believes that people who train in only three areas (sarcasm, how to point and shoot a radar gun and how to point and shoot a taser) prior to joining any police force I have to say that I for one was proud to see the police restrain themselves. If they had charged into crowds as we've seen in other countries there would have been mass casualties. On Sunday when the last of the protesters on Spadina and Queen would not give it up and go home they stretched the limits of the police good will.


Mark Smith (Montreal, PQ)
said

Violence is a necessity for change. Without violence, there would be no Israel, no USA, no Ireland, etc. These countries were forged out of terrorism, guerrilla warfare, and other methods of warfare that you all conveniently forget. Peaceful protests won't accomplish much against the most powerful leaders in the world, and those leaders are not just the politicians, but the corporate leaders as well. These people have made the world what it is today, a world falling apart at the seams economically, socially, ecologically. These "leaders" are the ones that create right and left wing extremism, either through direct support (eg: CIA and Taliban), or indirectly by purposefully creating conditions that breed extremism. These "leaders" are the ones that let the banking system collapse, putting millions upon millions of people out of work. Some say "it's the socialists!". Well, no, it's not JUST the "socialists". It's the people on top. They aren't socialists, or capitalists, or fascists, or environmentalists, they are simply driven to acquire more power over the people. If it means being a socialist one day, a fascist the next, and a liberatian the next, then so be it. You can't vote with your dollar anymore, democracy is mostly a sham, so what's left? What's left is revolution folks. What's left is for the people to start standing up for themselves and if that involves some violence, then so be it. The world won't change because you made some colourful signs or because you broke a window, or because you sat in your chair complaining about protesters. The world will change when the people, who out number the leaders, stand up, draw a line in the stand, and tell THEM not to advance beyond it.


KJ in Kingston Ontario
said

Canadian Police are human too... who would have guessed! Stupid stupid place to stage that event -- so I would say the police did about as well as humanly possible under the conditions they faced.... But of course humans do have their flaws -- and we saw a lot of those flaws illustrated this past weekend -- right from the top on down.


Kevin
said

How can you people possibly commend the police? They stood and watched their police cars get torched. They completely missed the plot on Saturday, and then completely overcompensated on Sunday. The number of innocent people injured and arrested was far too great on Sunday. Completely unwarrented.My thoughts? They police were instructed to let the "thugs" run rammant on Saturday so that they show the public that there is a need for the excessive amount of money spent on security. But that only says to me, that for over a billion dollars you couldn't control a few thugs? Doesn't add up. They were told to let it happen.It also gave the police more leverage to be aggressive with the remaining protesters.It's all quite sad. People's civil liberties and democratic rights were ignored this weekend.


Dave S
said

Instead of complaining about the police the people of Toronto should have grabbed these little cowardly punks and put the boots to them and then give them to the police. It is everyones responsbility to look out for their city and property and to assist the police now we the taxpayers will pay for these little creatons and their neandrathal actions. To the POLICE from all around Canada that helped out with this G8/G20 congratulations on a job well done. To all that said the police were to heavy handed, give your head a shake we had the G8 in Calgary and the Police were exceptional and some of those very same Police were on your streets helping out


ESL
said

It would have been cheaper to buy a bullet for every protester. Destroying store fronts and vehicules, is not exactly an intelligent argument for world poverty and human rights.


Sharon Keating
said

I think it's pretty sad that people criticize our police force when they are trying to protect our streets. I watched on TV Saturday and Sunday and was totally disgusted with the conduct of these protesters. I didn’t see any of the non-violent protesters trying to stop these low lives’s from breaking store windows or try to stop them from burning up police cars. After seeing what went on Saturday why would anyone in there right mind go down there? I watched yesterday and the police asked several times for the group at the detention centre to move back and they just stood and defied them. In my opinion they got what they deserved. They new the risks so quit wining about it.


John L
said

Now why did the cops shoot the felon 37 times?Cuz that's all the bullets they had!


Francesca, Woodbridge
said

It is disturbing that the majority of posters here (hopefully not representative of the general population) are so comfortable with the lack of true civilian oversight and critical scrutiny of the police. Equally troubling is the relativist attitude where supposedly worse outcomes of similar events occurring elsewhere are used to justify the actions of our own police.


Doug Roberts, Thunder Bay ON
said

How are we going to feel when we find out for sure that some of the most aggressive members of the so-called 'black-bloc' gang were members of law enforcement; agents provocateurs?


Jane
said

What is all of the finger pointing at the police? They did a great job and showed considerable restraint. The "Black Bloc" anarchists are the reason the police presence is necessary. These anarchists are nothing more than terrorists and should not be allowed to get away with anything. It's possible that is the police had attacked these anarchists the outcome would have been much more damaging.

As for the news media people who were arrested, anyone can put a tag on themselves and say they are media. In addition what gives the media the right to get into the centre of these situations and expect not to get hurt or arrested. Perhaps it would be better if the media didn't give these terrorist so much attention. Will these stories drag on for months?

The billions of dollars required to prevent these terrorist attacks could have help many people throughout the world!


Jay, Ottawa
said

Proud Canadian said "Seems to me the questions should be aimed at those who willfully destroyed public and private property." And this applies to the members of the media who were arrested how? Your comment is just stupid. Why should we aim questions at people who have no code by which they operate. They're thugs and anarchists. The police are expected to operate at a higher level. Arresting members of the media documenting the events is not part of the job WE gave them.


JB in Ontario
said

The police did an incredible job during the riots. There are some people who you will never please. You just have to ignore them.


JPC
said

Even is you're dumb enough to sit peacefully in a war zone you run the risk of getting shot.Stand in the middle of a riot and you may get arrested. I had a nice weekend and I didn't get arrested, but than again I stayed home.


Nataly
said

I was coming to work in one of the Hospitals in downtown Toronto on June 26, through the Queens Park area ,I saw protesters,they were ready to strike ,were ready for violence,and most of them did not look as peaceful demonstrators.Police did an amazing job to keep all of us who hate violence safe.I am very proud of the way police handled the situation,now it's time to make those responsible for the distraction pay their dues.


Lynn
said

I too am a very pround Canadian, where ever I go. I am also proud of all Police Officers, RCMP and our Armed Forces for they protect all of us everyday. What I am NOT proud of is the disgusting way that my fellow Canadians behaved during the G20.
If it's violence you want perhaps you should move to another country where it is an every day occurance and there is no one to protect you. Shame on you for your pityful behavior - I hope you Mom & Dad caught your picture on National TV.


Aristo Meni
said

Re G20
Saturday 6/26 aware of pending protests but not planning to be involved in any way went to a club at Queen W and Simcoe for afternoon musical matinee at approx. 12:30 hrs. Shortly after arrival protesters began marching by in the thousands. A broad spectrum of protesters, many brought their children. Intermingled with these were a black clad amorphous group. On every southbound street from Queen were phalanx of police in full riot gear blocking access to these streets. Some minor property damage was done by black clad and not, youths who then bolt up the north bound streets where there seemed to be no Police presence. Police interaction with vandals was minimal. By this time we were having lunch at Soho and Queen and events apparently were unfolding at Queen and Spadina.
We decided to leave, now about 15:00 hrs. Went to Spadina and walked north to Bloor.
I have some concerns about what went down that day.
1. College and University police are stopping people at random and insisting on ID and search of any purses, knapsacks etc..
I thought this new power, an abrogation of constitutional rights was limited to anyone within 5 metres of the downtown fence?
2. Police cars were set ablaze, we didn't see this except on tv. We did see no police or fire department presence at these incidents for the longest time. $1.2 billion on security and police leaving unattended, unlocked police vehicles right in the path of protesters! Something stinks here or the people that commanded the police all came from "Mayberry"


Nate from Ontario
said

The police were questioned about not doing enough on Saturday, then too much on Sunday. Give me a break. They gave the "protesters" an inch and they took a mile. If the police would have cracked down on Saturday, people would be crying over that.


Corey
said

It occurs to me that the journalists who were "unjustly" hit must have been standing within arms reach of the policemen during a full blown violent riot. Now during a violent riot why would you be out on the streets standing close enough to the riot control squad that you could be hit? Full story please.


Brian from Barrie
said

The only people that are questioning the police actions are the idiots that displayed criminal behaviour and the media. You, the media, first complain that the police were not present on Saturday when the damage to property and looting took place. Then when the police regroup and actually take a proactive approach, you complain again. Sorry, but you were told to stay out of the area and you didnt. You all got what you deserved. As per the members of the media being arrested, I saw the videos, the media were getting into the face of the police just so you could get that perfect action shot. You all should have been charged with obstructing them. You (the media) are expected to conduct yourselves properly as well you know, not get in the way of the police and then complain later. All so you can create your sensational stories to sell your advertising rights!


Daniel - A concerned Canadian
said

These police need to answer for they're complete lack of sense and decency. The police need to be brought down and treated in the same way that they treated people on the streets of Toronto, let's see how they like to be penned in like animals for doing nothing wrong. I am a strong conservative and even I think that the police did a terrible job and caused much more damage then then prevented. This is a sad day for Canada, and hopefully the beginning of a crack down on heavy handed police who are violent and incite violence in our cities. It is clear beyond all reasonable doubt that the police were the real problem in Toronto and not the 300 or so black block or whatever they're calling them now. To put it bluntly, the police failed in Toronto and continue to fail until they answer for their wrongdoings. I don't want to hear any more blind praise for these corupt cops....all police should be treated as being corupt unless proven otherwise as far as I'm concerned....signed. a very concerned Canadian!


Petter
said

By some peoples logic in here, if your neighbor does something illegal, then the police have the right to arrest everyone in your neighborhood.



Keith in Brampton
said

It was a lose / lose situation for the police. If they did nothing they would be faulted; if they cracked down they would be accused of being too aggressive. It looks like they attempted to strike a balance: let the rioters blow of some steam and prove just what a menace they really are before cracking down. Unfortunate for the property owners, but probably the wisest of a bunch of lousy options.As for peaceful protesters, looky-loos or news media who got picked up in the sweep: you'd have to be complete fools to go down there and think that there was no chance of getting swept up in a dragnet - esp. those on Sunday who went down dressed in black. The only ones who get any sympathy from me are those who live in the area and found themselves victims of circumstance.


John Tran
said

Why are we paying our hardearned money to policemen when they can't even arrest a bunch of wannabe rebels when they're right infront of their faces. We gave the policemen the responsibility to protect and defend us, and they failed us. I saw in a video, a man tried to make a citizen arrest but couldn't because 50 other black bloc told him to let the guy go or else he'll get beaten. There was nothing he can do, he was defenceless. If this ever happen again, I'll know what to do. Buy a gun, and then stand infront of my store


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

Gee, who saw this coming?! It became quite clear yesterday, watching television coverage, that the media zombies ("journalists") with their cameras and microphones were utterly desperate and anxious to be in the thick of some form of violence, vandalism, destruction, and/or serious confrontation. (As the time on the G20 clock drew down, you could sense a "need" for something "newsworthy" to happen.) Their stubborn, self-important, self-serving refusal to heed the expressed wishes of law enforcement to refrain from interfering with safety and security efforts by mindlessly roaming and running shoulder-to-shoulder with troublemakers and genuine criminal suspects made the uncomfortable (and perhaps painful) bed that they ended up having to sleep upon. As Toronto's Police Chief and Mayor have both indicated, many boneheaded "journalists" become part of the problem; especially on Sunday. Front-line officers had an extremely difficult job to do, and they deserve to be commended overall. My real standing issue has to do with the fact that law enforcement, despite having an enormous budget and a incredibly massive supply of equipped officers behind it, couldn't adequately handle a group of thugs that they already professed expecting and being fully prepared for. Evidently, the plotting, planning, and strategizing by law enforcement "management" was a failure. Saturday's mayhem, and the replayed image of police cruisers burning in the street, was/is a symbol of shameful ridiculousness for Canadians and the world. The sad and laughable icing on the cake is now all the whining and post-summit drama being conducted by members of the media and arrested/detained twits who got the "thrill" they were pretending not to be looking for. Good grief, Charlie Brown.


Graeme
said

I understand they have a tough job, but the number of innocent people arrested sure doesn't seem like what we expect in a democracy. For the most expensive 72 hours in Canadian History, our Civil Liberties were also thrown out the window and we became "guilty unutil proven innocent"


James
said

The whole point of this tactic was to draw police into actions that could be spun badly. There are two parts to the team, "black-bloc" troops and the blood thirsty leftest members of the media. It's just another effort to sway that "very special" demographic, the more gullible citizens of Leftonto. These accusations may have just as well been written last week; anybody with a few working braincells saw this coming. That's why there's a designated court for these clowns.Those "Get Off The Fence" fascists can sit on it. They've all watched Fight Club one too many times.


Matt
said

Wow, questioning the Police now? That's cool, maybe I don't know focusing on the morons smashing things, rather then once again being critical on the Police and their actions.


SpenBC
said

It would not have mattered what the police did, failed to do, or could have done. It was already a given that the left leaning press was going to come out on the side of the Black idiots and against the police, despite the fact that most detainees have been released and no one was seriously hurt or killed. Nothing the police do in these situations will ever find support in this God-forsaken leftist country. "Peace and good government" in this country means rule by the left or anarchy.


J.W.( Bill) Thomson
said

Here we go again, the bleeding heart Liberal news media blaming the Police for the actions of the nut jobs ! I am proud of the men and women in uniform and thankful to live in a country where this type of crap is not permitted !


Patrick
said

I think the police did a great job under very difficult circumstances. They're not perfect, they're human. But given the situation, I think the media should be congratulating them for protecting the city from these nuts, like the Black Bloc, instead of criticizing them and pointing fingers at them. If I were a rich man I would buy every one of them a beer! Great work, guys!


Sadie
said

Question the police... for doing their job ?How about the thugs who smashed windows, cars and set fires ?How about the media reporting ?? its supposed to be unbiased yet their questions, their approach even the tone of their voices.... were inflammatory and accusatory towards the police and government - media coverage needs to be questioned.We are so quick to find fault - one little thing and kaboom its catastrophic...again what is the focus... its the thugs who hijacked the peaceful protests... and the police are to be commended for their calm handling of a terrible situation.


Al-BC
said

The police had a tough job no question. When will these protesters learn that enough is enough?


JP
said

Ooooohhh Lord please save me from those scary protesters. Those scary children of degenerate parent's who never taught their children not to break things. Please oh please, MORE gestapo please!


James In the Gap
said

It’s a sad state of a affairs when on a day the Canadian forces is flying two heroes home from Afghanistan who dead protecting are freedom we are watching a pack of thugs rampage through are city streets. Freedom to express yourself you call it…………


Matthew
said

It appears no one who has commented so far has bothered to even read this article before running their mouth. This is not about how the police handled the rioters, this is about how the handled the peaceful protesters and journalists. And if you spend 10 minutes of your time understanding the difference then you will understand how terrible a job the power tripped out police did.

Think before you speak. I was there and I saw it unfold in front of my eyes. Toronto police should be ashamed of themselves.


Rick in T.O.
said

It's very depressing that there are so many people (in fact, all so far) defending the police. First of all, the reason people are criticizing the police in addition to the violent, window-smashing protesters is because the police, at least in theory, work for and are paid by us, whereas the violent protesters are just random anarchists.Unfortunately, while there should be "constant finger pointing at the police", as Proud Canadian calls it, there isn't -- we've got the mayor and others defending the police's indefensible actions. This despite the fact that we know, from video evidence as well as from neutral journalists like Steve Paikin, who have no reason to lie, that the police abused and arrested journalists as well as broke up peaceful protests (i.e., those that were not breaking any windows, torching any police cruisers, or doing anything else illegal, but simply sitting down far away from the summit site and singing "O Canada".) The police just moved in and started arresting people standing on the street, only to release them later.If there is to be one good thing to come out of this summit, it may be that the police will come under higher scrutiny than before; while every other group in our society (politicians, corporations) is constantly questioned and investigated, the police are almost always given a blank cheque to do as they please. Although the majority of comments here seem to be pro-police, I hope the majority of Canadians will wake up to the fact that, just like with politicians, absolute power corrupts absolutely with the police, and they need to be reigned in and held accountable for their actions, just as politicians or other bureaucrats would be.


Anna
said

My question is do any of these "protesters" have any real jobs? Or is their job and goal in life to whine?

What exactly were they protesting?

Rather then doing that, why don't they get up, contribute, adopt a child, go to a third world country help the people there, change laws by getting involved in local/international politics... I mean they obviously have a lot of energy as we saw- smashing things, screaming, looking like great great big baboons...

There is a difference between protesting because it is justified to do so and to stand up to abusive powers, it's another to be doing it because it's "out there" or radical

Every single one of those people who were obviously inciting police got exactly what they deserved... However I agree that people who weren't be baboons should have been left alone...

This is coming from a journalism student


Tim from Vancouver
said

So predictable, the cries of police aggressiveness and brutality after a so called "peaceful" destructive violent protest .... you knows this would happen. This is right out of the protesters' "red book" of how to muster sympathies for their cause. Average citizens can see right through it, and shake our heads that the media play right along by giving them a platform and headline spaces. Final Score: Insanity =3 : Logic=0


Nicole
said

Just be thankfull it was the Toronto police not the RCMP, or all protesters would have been joyfully tasered to death with impunity


John from Saskatoon
said

The police can't win. They either didn't act aggressively enough or they used too much force. What do people want? After the rioting of the first day protesters should have known there was going to be a crack down the next day. You can't take what the protesters say about their treatment by police as gosple. Their goal is to paint the govt. and police as the 'MAN' supressing their voice and human rights. If you're going to get in the face and provoke lawfull athorities there are going to be consequnces. Unfortunatly for the bystanders or peaceful protesters sometimes you're in the wrong place at the wrong time but knowing these events were taking place you should have been smart enough to know you may get caught up in the mess. absolutely no sympathy for any of the protesters.


Lz in Edmonton
said

Here is my take. If you want to protest, perhaps they should have opened up a park about 100 miles away from the event and they could have protested peacefully with full media coverage. As for the goons (and I say this will all protesters at the event itself, non-violent and violent) the police in my opinion treated you too fairly. In most countries, you would have been beaten, shot, or locked up. Fortunately for you, they used only "mild" methods but if it was up to me, lucky for you it isn't, you'd be thrown in jail for 10 years at a minimum. And for those people TOO STUPID to go down there only to see for yourselves get in the middle of things, what side of the IQ equation are you on? Really, below the 100 or above it?


Mikefromhalifax
said

If it was me who was in charge, I would have had snipers on all the rooftops in the areas with high powered rifles loaded with tranquilizer darts. Everyone seen breaking windows and torching cars would have been videoed, darted and picked up later at the leisure of the police. I suspect this would have contributed to a much more well behaved crowd.


Jaid in Toronto
said

The police were showcasing their power and not exercising their enforcement of rules that reflect society. While there is a gray cloud between public safety and law enforcement, very small actions such as talking to citizens before detainment produce more positive criticism as opposed to clanging batons to riot shields instructing people to move as if they were cattle.


Peter Rapsey
said

I think the police were put in a lose lose situation. First complaints were that they were too soft and too slow, then it was too hard and too fast. I think the police did an admirable job as there were no serious injuries that I have heard of. The blame here sits on Harpers shoulders - why did he not choose the exhibition grounds which would have been easier to police at far less cost. at a time of fiscal restraint being called for - what was this? Should our leaders not set an example? 1.2 billion would look good in fighting world poverty, sickness, retirement, gulf coast etc. When you put so many police visibly in one place, you ask for trouble from the idiots of the world.


joel
said

i'm really really glad that the comments on here are FOR the police and the trouble they had in controlling those idiots who call themselves "protesters"...all they EVER do is destroy public and private property..i would like to know why none of them were working during any of this time..oh wait..probably cause the majority of them have ZERO jobs and think that by protesting anywhere they can in the world they are doing a good deed and making a difference...ya, you're making a difference all right...its because of these idiot protesters that there was a BILLION dollars spent on security...and why the city of TOronto will have to spend millions on the repairs of these people who only care about themselves...the fact that they keep saying they are trying to help is the biggest lie and scam going nowadays....


Downtown
said

Please don't confuse Saturday's events with Sunday's. The vandals on Saturday should face justice. Police showed a lot of restrain on Saturday ... maybe too much in the face of obvious vandalism. Sunday was totally different story. There was no violent or destructive behaviour on Queen West. Most of those pinned in by the police near Spadina and later detained or arrested were shopping, having coffee or just stuck. The police went overboard on Sunday -- with total disregard for the rights of citizens AND protesters. They need to be held to account BECAUSE we need the police to have moral authority. Chief Bill Blair needs to stop calling citizens and journalists who were there liars ... and figure out how his team got Sunday so wrong.


Crusty Rusty
said

Some other questions that need answers are: To begin with why was the media there in such huge numbers? Why would the media allow themselves to be used to give these criminals and professional protestors an audience therby furthering their agenda? It was quite clear to me listening to the press conferences that some of these "media" persons were in fact aiding the protestors themselves by crying foul. From my perspective it's all too easy to question the police, after all they are the only ones remaining after everyone else commits their mayhem and then disappear.


Mike in Mississauga
said

The police had a monumental task sorting through the people following the events on Saturday. This is simply about being in the wrong place at the wrong time in the heated moment.best advice...STAY AWAY!! This isn't about freedoms and rights, it's about your safety. They should have either banned protests this weekend or held them in the proposed area they had originally allocated.Bottom line is none of these people were invited to the G20 so STAY AWAY!! Anyone who was down there can only blame themselves for this result, media included. There are so many other legitimate ways in to express yourselves in this society. Grow Up People, and to the violent ones...get a life, you bunch of jerks!!!!


Paul
said

the police did nothing wrong and in fact should be commended for their work. toronto police are not used to this nonsense (unlike the idiots who came to destroy things) and considering the collateral damage, did a great job. i wouldn't be doing it for any price.


Doug a taxpayer
said

Any person who wants to challenge the police when asked to do something by them gets what is coming to them. The police are charged with the task of keeping everybody in line. If you where there and your intent was not to make headlines you shouldn't have been there. The only reason people where there was to cause a problem, so the media would report it.


posthocg20
said

Why did Toronto police abandon their police cars and run away when a group a masked people started breaking windows in Downtown Toronto?These masked people broke away the peaceful protest match (just like they said they would do) went in a different direction (they were isolated from the peaceful protesters); it was trivial to identify these people from those who were standing around; the peaceful protesters were long gone having marched in a different direction; why did police run away allowing these masked idiots to break windows?


Marie
said

As a citizen of Toronto, I want to thank the police for doing a very hard job and maintaining the peace as best they could during a very trying time.


Jacks raging bile duct
said

I don't blame the police (they're just doing their jobs). I don't blame the protesters (they're just voicing their concerns for the future). I blame Harper. Stupid move putting the G20 in Toronto. Someone in the Conservative Cabinet should be fired!


Rick Rolfe
said

The questions mainly come from journalists who placed themselves in harms way. They wanted the story and mingled with the mob to get it. Suck it up its the price they would pay again to get the story. RR


Paul Vancouver Island
said

The people of Toronto were put through incredible trauma and only one person to blame at the top of the Chair of Command, Mr. Stephen Harper. The Prime Minister rules based on division and hard core tactics; he does it in his Conservative ads and he does it to anyone who disagrees with him; he firmly believes might is right. The police were acting on his orders, show no mercy, and they carried out that order wonderfully. They did their job as any good police do for a Dictator. Much of the destruction to Toronto could have been avoided if Harper was a good leader, at the least use of the CNE grounds or better yet a more remote location such as a military base.


Trevor in the Hat
said

Saturday eveyone was complaining the police didn't do enought, Sunday they complain they are doing too much. No matter what the police did people were going to complain about them.


Bill in BC
said

The police did an excellent job. There will always be those who will find fault with them, regardless of the facts. In this case they have nothing to be ashamed of. In fact they police were far more indulgent and gentle than I woudl have reasonably asked them to be.


Grant
said

What a sham. for a billion dollars, we all expected more. these destructive imbiciles should have been shot with rubber bullets the minute they started destroying vehicles and businesses. I'm embarassed


Del
said

The police had the opportunity to arrest the "black bloc" on Saturday but chose to let them go. They then wait until Sunday to make arrests when there is much less evidence that those arrested are the ones involved in the damage. The whole thing was a failure. Harper, the police and the ones vandalizing Toronto should be equally ashamed of themselves. Love the quote from Blair about being shocked by the violence. If he is that unaware of the violence that plaques these summits then the man is an idiot or a liar.


Timothy
said

When it comes to trusting journalists take on things (many out there who sympathize with the left wing nut jobs) or the police, I'll take the police.


Kim
said

The police actions are in questions? What about the friggin' idiots smashing windows and burning police cars? Put the focus where it should be and quit trying to grab cheap headlines.


Proud Canadian
said

Seems to me the questions should be aimed at those who willfully destroyed public and private property. This constant finger pointing at the police is getting a little tiring as without them this would have resulted in the burning of the city of Toronto and heaven forbid that would ever happen. Time to lay blame where the blame deserves to be laid.... on the protesters who allowed this to take place. Why were the PSAC protesting?


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