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Prime Minister Stephen Harper answers a question during question period in the House of Commons on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, Ont., Thursday December 10, 2009. (THE CANADIAN PRESS/Sean Kilpatrick) Parliament Hill Liberal strategist Warren Kinsella speaks to Canada AM on Thursday, Dec. 31, 2009. Conservative strategist Tim Powers, speaks to Canada AM Thursday, Dec. 31, 2009.

Proroguing Parliament is 'routine,' Tories say

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A Liberal strategist says Canadians are becoming wise to Harper's game, but Conservative strategist Tim Powers dismissed the criticism and made note of the Liberal's prorogation of parliament when they held the reigns.
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Prime Minister Stephen Harper asked Governor General Michaelle Jean to prorogue Parliament until March 3rd on Sunday, the second time he has done so in less than a year.

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Prime Minister Stephen Harper answers a question during question period in the House of Commons on Parliament Hill in Ottawa, Ont., Thursday December 10, 2009. (THE CANADIAN PRESS/Sean Kilpatrick) Parliament Hill Liberal strategist Warren Kinsella speaks to Canada AM on Thursday, Dec. 31, 2009. Conservative strategist Tim Powers, speaks to Canada AM Thursday, Dec. 31, 2009.

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Date: Thu. Dec. 31 2009 7:03 PM ET

While opposition parties accuse the Conservative government of avoiding accountability by successfully requesting Parliament be prorogued for the second time in a year, Tory observers insist it's nothing more than a routine procedure -- and that the move will allow the government to return refreshed and re-focused on the economy in 2010.

Warren Kinsella, a political consultant to the Liberal Party, pointed to scathing editorials in several Canadian newspapers as proof of the general public's discontent with the decision to suspend Parliament until March 3.

"Forget what us Liberals say, look at what's on the front page of the Globe and Mail," he told CTV's Canada AM Thursday, holding up an editorial with the headline: "Democracy diminished, accountability avoided."

"(The Conservative government is) doing this because they want to avoid the scrutiny of government and it is undemocratic fundamentally and they will pay the price for it," he added.

Kinsella said Prime Minister Stephen Harper will use the time to improve conditions for his minority government by likely filling five vacant seats in the Liberal-dominated Senate with Conservative supporters.

"This allows Harper to jam in more Conservative cronies into the senate, take control of Senate committees and then jam through whatever he wants to," he said.

But Tim Powers, a Conservative strategist, dismissed the opposition's criticism as "nonsense" and noted that Parliament has been prorogued 105 times in its history.

"If you do the math that works out to about every one in 1.3 years," he said. "People understand this is parliamentary procedure."

Powers said the move will allow the government to come back refreshed and refocused on the economy.

"The prime minister has done this to bring Parliament back focused on part two of the economic action plan," he said. "I think that's where people want his focus to be -- on the economy."

Powers noted that Jean Chretien, Canada's Liberal Prime Minister from 1993 to 2003, prorogued government four times during his time in office while Harper has prorogued Parliament three times since he came into power in 2006.

The last time he asked Gov. Gen. Michaelle Jean to prorogue Parliament was in December 2008 when he faced the threat of a coalition forming among opposition parties.

The move means that Parliamentary committees have also been suspended, including the one that has been probing allegations of abuse against Afghan detainees -- an issue that has been plaguing the Conservatives for months.

Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff criticized the decision, saying Harper is showing a complete "disregard" for the Canadian public.

"Mr. Harper is showing his disregard for the democratic institutions of our country," Ignatieff said in a statement released Wednesday. "The decision to prorogue is about one thing and one thing only - avoiding the scrutiny of Parliament at a time when this government is facing tough questions about their conduct in covering up the detainee scandal."

"It's clear Mr. Harper will stop at nothing to prevent the truth about his government's actions from coming to light - even at the expense of Canada's critical economic recovery," Ignatieff said.

But Powers said it's the Liberals' fault that key legislation hasn't been passed and that new blood in the Senate could help move things along.

"Hopefully when Parliament returns in March that will no longer be the case and the key crime bills that the Liberal Senate has stopped can get through with no problems," he said.

"Shame on Mr. Ignatieff because when it comes to the issue of legislation he's been bullied and pushed around by his own Senate."

Powers said if the opposition isn't happy with the move, they will have a chance to voice that opinion in the new year with a confidence motion.

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michael
said

This is looking more and more like a disease... not a government. Circumstances like these are certainly not in keeping with the purpose of this instrument and show a jaded contempt for the concerns of Canadians. If Canadians don't care about torture, as his shills suggest, I sincerely doubt they see this disingenuous stunt as anything less than bad optics with worse underlying causes.


CMQ in NB
said

On a final note, adding to what I said earlier, I was at the gym today and CTV brought this story on and who was there talking? Iggy right? No, The want to be leader Bob Rae..... Iggy does "out of sight out of mind" mean anything to you at all? If you want us to know you then let us see more than quotes in a news story, let's see the real you or is that scarier than Harper and Jack or maybe Gille? At least they have the cahunnas to be seen in public.... How about you? Cuz right now Bobby is stealing the show and "skating" all the way to the top while you bury your head in the sand or is it your backside? Maybe stop barking from behind closed doors or maybe you are taking my advice earlier and keeping it for those paid to listen to you. Never thought of that. Hmmmm, no you 're just letting Bobby steal the show because your intellect can't help change who you are, comfortable in front of a class but not the public or the press! .


jw
said

I'm only concerned with making money. I don't see "democracy" exsting at any level beyond the immediate community anyway. The gov't is like the idiot boss that when they are away from work, more work gets done by everyone else. A gov't not in parliament is like a gun without bullets. Its so much safer. I've always found that the economy and my ability to make money increase whenever the gov't isn't governing. Let them prorogue forever.


Jon in Sk
said

Job hard? Tired? Too cold outside? Boss on your @ss? Would you like 3 months off with pay? Join the Conservative Party. No worries, the tax-payers love us and they have deep pockets.If you expect better from Ottawa than what we've been getting, make your MP aware of your concerns. They are there to serve us. Not the other way around. Tell them no more paid vacations at our expense!


PDW
said

I really don't care what legal method Harper uses to keep the country on the course its on as long as he continues.Don't sway to the Liberal media, just stay doing what you're doing.


JimySocial
said

Awesome!


Bugzy
said

Harper is nothing but a coward slithering away like a coward that he is. His big mouth gets him in trouble and when the waters get too hot, he just simply runs off to play. How anyone can support this control freak is beyond me. It simply does speak as much about his brain washed parrots.


Chuck
said

I look at Harper and see someone who is anti-democratic at his core. He has an agenda that he is determined to follow and democratic checks and balances are obstacles to be overcome rather than respected.


blair
said

Typical Liberal move, whine about something they did, obviously somebody filled the senate with Liberal senators, can't see that having been the conservatives. I say the Senators be voted in by the public with no party affilliations but only the good of the public being the reason they get in. Anybody who supports good legislation-ie: good for the country and the public who pay their wages can get re-elected into the senate. No colaboration between them just pure common sense. Any colaboration you are voted out, 4 yr term that you can vote for during your municipal election.


Mike
said

I'm truly sick of seeing our elected officials cheapen our hard fought demographic processes. Eventhough peroguing may be a legal process, our politicians should be wise enough to know that Canadians don't want to see these sorts of 'shannigans' and cheap tricks anymore, we're SICK of it! The real question is, does Steve really care what us Canadians really think or feel? Probably not, but just in case he is listening, tell everyone you know that you're not happy about this, and tell them to tell their friends, and so on. Let's get the message out, get back to business, NOW!


dale netley
said

I am confused on this issue because my quick look into Parlimentary history indicates a total of three (3) other Prime Ministers have used this chickensh-t way out.As far as I can tell Prime Minister Sir John A. MacDonald did so twice (2) and Mulroney once. Both Conservatives to I might add.So if you include the one other time in 2008 when Harper used his get out of the slaughterhouse free card then where does this talking head come up with 105.Harper is corrupting Parliment with his own brand of democracy and I for one am proud to say I never vote Conservative and I sure as hell never will after this one man Party comes begging for votes.


Toby
said

Yes, Tory "routine procedure" - shut it down when things are not going their way. Please return you salary to the Canadian Taxpayers for the time you are off doing nothing.


Jack R
said

Interesting that the majority of the comments ignore the fact that democracy is being undone, and you don't seem to have a problem with it. If it had been done by Liberals you would have been screaming for blood, but because it's being done by the Reform, oops, I mean the PC party it's ok? Something is wrong with you people. It's your rights that are being violated and your country that's being co-opted and you don't care?


Steph
said

Detainee scandal is the reason why the parliament was prorogued....... Give me a break! It is a scandal ONLY because the opposition wants it to be a scandal but anyone with an ounce of common sense will disagree. Should I remind everyone that four of our finest soldiers and a journalist lost their LIVES as a result of some afghans that should have been detainees instead.....My heart goes to their family and friends.


Wolly Pog
said

Proroguing parliament is no big deal. Chretien did it four times and nobody chirped.


JFj
said

Is it only constitutional when another party does it?


Jack - AB
said

I have no issue with proroguing Parliament itself but only how Harper is going about doing it. The real problem is a minority gov't is allowed to go to the Govenor General and ask her to prorogue Parliament. I believe only a majority gov't or one that has allowed the MPs to decide and vote should then go prorogue if that is the consensus, ie: if greater than 50% vote in favour. Harper uses this new tool as a way to get a political advantage over the other political parties. He uses proroguing in a devious and improper manner to gain an edge and subvert the political process. I also wonder how many more times he will prorogue Parliament when things are not going his way in the coming months or years.


M M B Ont
said

The Liberals are sure getting their knickers all tied up in knots over this and creating needless wedgies for themselves! Why was it ok for the Liberals and Cretian to do this 4 times during his term but when Harper does it, then all hell breaks loose? This shows how the Liberals think they have 'entitlement'.I think it's a disgrace that the Liberals and NDP are on and on about what happens to Afghan detainees , yet they don't care a darn what happens to our Canadian people? Just yesterday, we lost 5 Canadians... not 1 but 5? And still , the oppositions are only concerned with what happens to detainees? I have many words on this but they are unprintable.I think this proroguing Parliament is a good step. Nothing is working in Parliament the way it is so to get the job done for the people, some changes need to take place. It is unfortunate that the Opposition Leaders refuse to work for the people and instead, whine, and complain and contribut nothing except to try to dig up dirt and cause problems. We can do without that!


Jean Courtney
said

Shameful and frightening... that Harper was ever elected to an office he so clearly disdains. All Canadians need to stand up for this affront to our nation.


Ryan
said

Generally, a session of a Parliament is ended by being prorogued when it has accomplished the mandate of its speech from the throne. So it's another conservative spin - this time the purpose is purely partisan political move and is anything but "normal".And speaking of Chretien:The shortest session in a Parliament presided over by Chretien was the second session of the 36th Parliament at 376 days (133 sittings of the HoC). Stephen Harper has presided over 4 sessions in 2 Parliaments - 3 of those 4 sessions have all been shorter (in days and sittings of the Commons) than Chretien's shortest session.


Haywood Jablomi
said

Anyone with a sense of history knows that the Senate is operating as it always has and isn't the partisan chamber that the Conservatives portray it to be. I know the CPC leadership gets a kick out of whipping their followers up into a froth - goodness knows it's easy - but look into it yourself. The Senate isn't operating any faster or slower than it has in recent history. After all, it's only worked for 140 years now, how much longer can it possibly continue to function? When can we get the Progressive Conservative party back? In 2010 maybe?


Wally
said

Warren Kinsella says: "jam in more conservative cronies."We have two Liberal "cronies" from Alberta. "Twinkle toes" Banks whose name to fame is playing the piano, and the worst politicianwe have had in Alberta - Grant Mitchell. I'll take people like Mike Duffy over these two duds anyday.


Steve in Ontario
said

If I had to deal with the economic issues, the problems in Afghanistan, the Copenhagen climate fallout and our international perception, I'd be hid ... I mean proroguing too. Enjoy three further months of hard earned rest and salary!


Gasman
said

3 months to come back refreshed? Wish I could do that with my job.


Risky Business
said

If the opposition vote against Either the Throne Speech on 03 March or the Budget on March 05 this proroguing business and Harper will look absolutely RIDICULOUS! Incidentally, what will the throne speech contain? The Environment? EI reform? Tough crime laws? The Gun registry? Technically these and more cannot be addressed! These are all unfinished business!!! The Tories must be SO wanting to hide from something very GRAVE! I wonder what that is!


eddieo
said

Whether or not there is precedent for a second prorogation or not, it is a subversion of democracy.Mr, Harper deserves no respect, nor does the office of the GG. This clearly shows that our system is broken and must be revamped.


Jim McB
said

.I just can't imagine that left lib media outlets would be pushing this as a big deal. The Globe and Mail, heaven forbid!This has been a decade where the mainstream media has shown incredible bias after PM Harper snubbed them in 2006. The man has had to go to the US to get his story out without bias. Freedom of the press is abused in this country, opinion has replaced fact in reporting. Not only is this harmful to our democracy as the opposition has used the media to champion their causes, I am confident that our enemies are also skilled in getting our media to respond in their favour.The use of a Liberal and a left wing missive in the article lends a great deal of credence to my argument: and that is my opinion.The loss of impartial media is the biggest story of the decade: and the one that will never get reported.


TaxDetective
said

This should give Finance the time they need to bring forward technical amendments to the Income Tax Act. This past year Finance has been responding to ridiculous queries about what's included in the home reno tax credit instead of dealing with technical business. Kudo's to Sheila Fraser for raising the significance of 8 years of technical amendments held in abeyance in her November 2009 report which you will find on the AG website. If I were Finance staff I'd be heaving a sigh of relief that at the gift of time to get their house in order.


Colin
said

What a farce the liberals are, they try and overthrow an elected government, they appoint a leader, not elect one. Then they accuse an elected government of being undemocratic. Jean Chreiten parouged parliment 4 times, but that was okay. When our elected government Conservatives, parouge parliment, it is not okay. The Fiberals remind me of the kid in the sandbox that can not get his/her own way. Then they bring up the media not endorsing the conservatives. Who cares, that is what the liberals do not understand. It is who the people endorse, not who the fiberals and there minons in the press endorse. Remember, When a liberal voicebox speaks it is a lie.


Peter in MB
said

The only way that the Conservatives are going to make any changes to the senate is to first gain a majority in it every one including the liberals know that. The liberal senate will never vote to end their gravy train. In fact the senate did absolutely nothing nor offered a (sober second thought) in the 13 years of the liberal government. But they see fit to guy crime bill that the majority of Canadians want like ending the 2-1 time credit for criminals. Harper is just playing by the rules of our democracy. The actions of Iggy, Jack and a separatist bloc in the last few months is exactly why we have Proroguing parliament in the Canadian constitution. However I can see why the liberals are so upset over this. Because their long rain of arrogant elitism of telling people what’s best for them will soon come to an end and the liberals know it.


David
said

Scratch a bully and you will ALWAYS find a coward. Steve, it's time you looked in the mirror to see yourself for what you relly are - Insecure, and a very nasty and ugly little man.


I Jack
said

I forgot, Chretien had 3 times what Harper has never had and never will have: MAJORITY Government. Proroguin Parliament while holding a majority is common to synchronize events. Proroguing parliament while in holding a Minority is to avoid losing confidence votes.


Garthah
said

I am no fan of any of our political parities and I would certainly like to see proportional representation based on actual vote instead of first past the post. Not that It would greatly change things initially. I have great difficulty in those who criticize the current government but have nothing positive to contribute in its place. I currently do feel that the public is heard by our elected representatives and our system of the Party Head can force members of his party to vote his line when his constituents say otherwise. I understand the purpose of the opposition to keep the government side in check, but I think it takes a dynamic leader to propose alternatives to what the government is proposing and not just condemnation. I feel the current party leaders are looking for press coverage with no regard to what the country needs but what the support crowd backing the leader feels will give them the best press and our Canadian Press do give them that good bad or indifferent.Proroguing Parliament why is this all of sudden news why was it not news when previous Prime Ministers use it. Probably because it foiled the plans of a few party leaders who though they had a way to the PM's office through the back door. To bad the head of the Partie Quebecquois is a separatist as he might make a better leader than Ignatieff. Yes I think Harper is a bit arrogant but I think the other party leaders as just as arrogant and would be if given the chance. Everybody wants to be top dog no matter what the cost to the country. Tell them what you think will get their vote and do what you think will keep you in power after that.


Bob Hulley
said

I find it very concerning that the editorials referred to only confirm the bias of a particular media source, be it television or newspaper. Newspapers in particular seem to run an obvious bias. Most notably a Liberal bias anymore with a lot of them. Check the garbage printed in the Ottawa paper any time for a case in point. Media was supposed to be unbiased, but that is obviously gone by the wayside. I find myself more and more checking the US news on a particular Cdn. topic if I can find a write-up. At least I get the "real story" without the spin. Editors need to re-check their job description. They are abusing their position. Thanks to CTV for staying above the crowd in this regard; in my opinion.


CanadianKP
said

I don't understand the thoughts some of you produce. Just because parliament is prorogued, it does not mean politicians stop working. They are still doing their job. Just question period won't happen for what, maybe a month later.


R. Rogers, Calgary
said

How nice! Our elected representatives have decided to give themselves an extra 2 months of paid vacation. Or perhaps they intend to work through the summer to make up the time? It warms my heart to think how refreshed and re-focused they will be when parliament resumes, I'm sure it will enable them to find all sorts of new and innovative ways to dig us even deeper into debt.


Ken
said

I am so sick of hearing the conservatives represent only a minority of the house. If this argument were true the numbers would be even higher against Iggy and Jack. The fact is the government with the most votes leads the country. If the people of Canada were completely united with one ruling government and one opposition the argument would have validity but the country DID NOT vote for Iggy, Layton or Duceppe. The combined numbers for sure indicate that.


TVic
said

We voted these clowns into office, we pay thier salaries. Thier objective is to get maximum salary for minimum work. I guess we got what we deserved.


happy
said

I suppose the summer break and Christmas break just weren't refreshing enough for the Conservatives. They've turned running the country into a part-time job with full-time benefits and wages. Cowardly slackards that's what they are!


allan
said

Can somebody explain why it matters whether the government has a majority or minority when proroguing?


The Other Lowell in BC
said

It is interesting how the conservatives on this blog see no wrong in parliament suspending its work to suit Harper's political agenda. They are paid by my tax payer dollars. If the liberals were doing it, i am sure there would be a huge outcry from them. Harper is taking a risk doing this because it doesn't take much to tick off the taxpayer. Ignatieff does need to step up to the plate and provide some constructive alternatives to a government that does what it wants and when it wants despite the wishes of the canadian public. By the way Steve, even though you are shutting down the afghan committee., it isn't going away. There are several things the government needs to be held account on and they can't hide behind the governor general forever.


Calgary Dan
said

The difference this time is that Harper isn't a PM who has inspired a lot of trust to begin with. Many Canadians, including myself, already distrust this PM, so a proroguing under these conditions is an obvious attempt to skirt accountability. The detainee issue is serious -- it isn't a political issue, it's a legal/moral/ethical issue.Unfortunately this government is bankrupt on morals and ethics so it seem clear to me that this government is trying to avoid inspection, plain and simple.


MARG MM
said

Typical Liberal hyppocrisy. Have they not done the very same thing during the( too many) years they were in power??? Poroguing parliment and appointing senators, but I guess it is OK when you are the "national intitlement party"!!!!.This move will enable the governing Conservatives to make sure that the bills ( that most canadians want) will be passed by the senate, which up until it gets a Conservative majority, has been ruled by Liberals,who are famous for stalling said legislation.Most Canadians are on to the Liberals and their tactics, and as the HOC has been mostly non functional due to the screaming opposition, now is a good time to have a break. To those of you so missinformed that you think they are on a "vacation", the MP's will be out in their ridings working, and the PM will also be hard at work, planning the future of Canada and Canadians. If you are so concerned, now would be the time to contact your MP, as he or she will be available to you. If this will "shut-up" the opposition for a while, and give the news media a chance to report some real news, it is OK by me, however I expect that the Liberals will continue to holler as if they hadn't done the same thing before. Hyprocisy at its finest!!!!!


allan
said

Sounds like the Libs/NDP are not going to work at all, typical of them, complain, but do nothing.Just because parliament is suspended does not mean that MP's should not go to work, at least conservative MP's will be working in their ridings. Hilarous seeing the portrayal of Rae reading in a library on tv--corny image making.


KC-Bby
said

The conservative party is stuck with a leader that ensures it will always remaiin a minority. All these little tricks and manipulations will cement Mr Harper and the conservatives as a forever-minority govt. Nobody in his party has the guts to challenge Harper and ask the tough questions like: is this as far as we could hope to come - a minority? Perhaps they are all resigned to accept their lot on the political stage and why nobody in his party will speak up against this prorogue. Thanks Harper. Keep it up. There are many many many elections you will run in and manage to eck out a lame minority. As a liberal its fine with me.


Lynne Robinson
said

I'd like to see the CTV journalists tackling the 'truthiness' of the Cons' statements. Yes, proroguing is a legitimate tool of Parliament, but it has never been stretched beyond its intended purpose as Harper has done. Mr. Chretien prorogued 4 times in 10 years. He had a majority government in each of those years and so effectively had the confidence of the voters. Harper has prorogued 2 times in 2 years, both times with a minority government and with no reason to think he is representing most of us. This is especially true when you realize that in both of these cases, by shutting up the MPs who speak for everyone who did NOT vote for him, he is shutting up legitimate oversight into his government.


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

@ MisterD: You're purposely missing my point...that the Prime Minister is, indeed, the top dog in Parliament and, therefore, along with his elected party representatives, gets to call a number of shots, on a number of political fronts and issues. Period. (Are you disputing this? If so, I'm afraid you need to study up a little more.) All the ranting and whining from Liberals and NDPers we're hearing right now is nothing but sour grapes; for they've got this wishfully misinformed and biased idea in their head that when you're the Prime Minister in a parliamentary government and, especially, with a "minority" position, you're beholden to the Opposition entirely, and have to dance to their self-interested tune at every call and turn. This isn't so; and never has been. Quit being so falsely outraged, as if PM Harper and his Conservatives are the first in history to prorogue Parliament. You need to get over it; or, get your party of choice to win a federal election, and then enjoy the fruits of victorious standing. ...Good luck, and Happy New Year.


Rick in NB, Ste Marie
said

It doesn't matter how many times parliment has been prorouged. This time like last, Harper has done it to evade issues that will bring down the new reformed conservatives. But this time the detainee inquiry will not go away, this minority government knows it. My only question is. Is Harper doing this to have the big seat at the Olympics? If so, then let the emperor have his throne, Nero had one too.


the big gulp
said

Powers said if the opposition isn't happy with the move, they will have a chance to voice that opinion in the new year with a confidence motion.There you have it Canada, straight from "the mouth" of Timmy Timmy Cocoa Puff. The conservatives what an election. Steve figures he can get a majority THIS TIME and if he does get a majority, Canada will need nothing short of divine intervention to save the country. If Stephen Harper likes American right wing government policies so much why doesn't he move to the United States. Conservatives think Stephen Harper is the Messiah but common sense says he is closer to the other side of the coin. Come election time all the tory election posters will have a halo around Steve's head. Canada, the left has to unite because Stephen Harper is a disaster waiting to happen.


Vanc Man
said

Come on folks! Our PM had no choice but to follow this course of action. For one reason only - to get control of the theiving liberal, partisan, life time gravy train Senate!As of Jan 1 our PM can appoint the 8 new Senators (with their understanding that once Senators are elected they will have to run for their seat) and put a stop to the undemocratic actions of these theiving liberal hacks!That out of touch nut from Vancouver - Larry Campbell - actually thinks Canadians want to keep the 3 for 1 deal for criminals! We want it gone, the PM has put the matter up and dingbat Larry - unelected Larry - fights it? Enough is enough!As a Canadian I demand either an elected Senate or an end to it all together!Way to go PM Harper!! Keep up the excellent work!Happy New Year!!! (Go Canada!)


Ian-AB
said

So Harper takes another vacation... second three month one in a year and our soldiers die. Nice work there cons.


Warren in toon town
said

Hey jpb, the Bush thing is old get on with life. And the rest of you bleeding heart Liberals get over it. It's happened so deal with it, if you don't agree with the Conservative after the throne speech and budget vote against it and we will have an election. But I doubt even any of the other parties have the stomach for another election because we know what will happen and with Mr. Harper having a majority you will really have something to bitch about.


MARG Alberta
said

See I told you so! Harper prorogued parliament to kill all those tough on crime bills. He has no intention on getting tough on crime. The pension reform was also killed, he doesn't care about your pension & has no intention of helping the elderly. I was fooled by him last time, but come next election I won't be voting conservative. Also not going to raise taxes, well HST is raising taxes & it's the conservatives ttax. Lies Lies Lies


Coupe6652
said

I am not pleased with the situation. I believe the house sits too little as it does normally and this makes it worse. Then again the Liberals have no one to blame but themselves. I understand the reasons why Harper is doing this but I do not like why. The senate has two or three bills sitting in front of them that has had full support from the house. Yet they find themselves holding things up, changing them and it looks like they ignore Iggy. If this gives Harper the Senate majority he needs then so be it. I could understand if the Senate was elected then I believe they have a ground to stand on. Alas this is not the way of Canadian politics. Now that Harper has control of the Senate he can get his bills through. The last problem being will he get a majority in the next election. If he does he will have to abolish the Senate as we know it and make it an elected position otherwise this will prove Harper is just as crooked as the Liberals. Will it cause problems with Quebec.....that remains to be seen. I am not a fan of Mr. Harper nor after being a long term Liberal supporter, I am no longer a fan of the Liberals. I'd leave the country if the NDP got elected. The only party I trust is the Bloc. I know exactly where the stand and Mr. Duceppe is the most consistent leader of the three. He impressed me in the debates even though I disagreed with him. Canadians deserve what they are getting! Watch out for Flaherty he destroyed Ontario and he plans to do the same with Canada.


Wei Ting 4 Go Dot in Ka Na Duh
said

I don't really like Harper but he has delivered more than Chretien and Martin. The current 3 whiny blustering stooges on the left leave me cold. The frothing rabid lefty bloggers on these sites remind me of the old reformer rallies.When a legislative session isn't working shut it down and come up with a new plan. If the opposititon doesn't like it they can force an election. Then Canadians can decide who should drive. Stevie, Iggy, Taleban Jack or Gills Deceit.So will you Joe Canadian be out campaigning come spring? And turning out the vote? Or are you just gonna keep bitching?


ouifyg
said

Actually Prof. Pye Chart, parliament IS run by committee and by consensus, not by one all powerful leader. The whole idea is that we have a house of equal MPs debating what is best for the country with one REPRESENTATIVE head of the nation. The opposition IS SUPPOSED TO COMPLAIN about the government to stimulate this debate.There's nothing democratic about everything being run by one man with no debate or obstacles for whatever agenda he puts forward, even if that man is Harper.As for the senate, I'm looking forward to seeing you change your tune once there is a conservative majority in that chamber.


Wendy
said

Well bill C-15 was killed in the proroguing so it's not all bad. Who cares what he does in the senate now the bills won't make it through the house. This will cause a spring election so Harper's days are numbered. This is mostly a con site & the votes for proroguing were less than the votes against it. Harper has twice shown us the yellow strip down his back. He's definitely not a leader. hiding the lies of his party & following US policies is not who I want in office.


Dayton
said

When the Leader of the official opposition made the remark in his year end comment"Canadian's don't want an election but what they really want is an "ALTERNATIVE". What did he mean? Was another Coalition in the works? Seems this is the only way the deflated leaders of the opposition can gain power. Thanks to Harper for averting another attempted coup. Have we suffered since the last one? No!!!


Benjamin
said

Liberals: Why is Harper "bad" for doing this? It's not as if no Liberal PM has never prorogued parliament before. Same goes for putting friends in the Senate. How do you think half of the Senate became Liberal in the first place? Why can't Conservatives do the same thing? Maybe it is actual MP's job to criticize these actions, simply because it has always been this way; one side criticizes the other, regardless of the action. But as citizens, why do we need to repeat and echo their statements? We are not MP's. Whichever party we are from, we should be commenting on the substance of the actions, rather than which party is performing the actions. I am a conservative supporter. But if the Liberal's were in power with a PM and they did these actions, I would see no logic in criticizing them as well. It's political strategy, not undemocratic or wrong.


Richard in Ontario
said

When I hear Warren Kinsella whining about the government, I feel good that Steven Harper is on the right track. This consultant to the Liebral party has been around too long showing this party how to lie to get elected and lie to stay in power. He's on of Chretien's henchmen and we know how they handled parliament. Oh, you don't remember? Well, Chretien used to shut down parliament when it suited the Liberals purpose. Remember twice he called elections because it was to his advantage. I'm sure Mr Kinsella was part of that gang. So, good on Steven Harper to suspend this parliament and perhaps let the Libs and NDP go home and consider what's good for the country, instead of the continuing with the witch hunts they always seem to be on.


Nick in Gatineau
said

I forgot, Chretien had 3 times what Harper has never had and never will have: MAJORITY Government. Proroguin Parliament while holding a majority is common to synchronize events. Proroguing parliament while in holding a Minority is to avoid losing confidence votes.


Doug @ BC
said

Once again Chris in Ontario proves my grandfather was wrong decades ago when he proudly proclaimed that "the only good thing that ever came out of Ontario was an empty bus". I guess he never met Chris. As a reformed Liberal,I suggest that if real democracy is what they truly desire,get the corrupt and morally bankrupt Libeals to support democracy in the Senate.So far,among the frderal parties,it's only PM Harper making that case.It appears that democracy is only a concern to Liberals when they lose their advantage.They certainly had no problems with the laws and the rules when Chretien had majority governments with less that 40% of the popular vote. While I agree with those who would rather see Parliament working,that will only happen after the vitriole and partisan bickering is removed from the house.Which is exactly why I always say we need to change the way we govern,not the people who govern.If we fail to do that,future generations of Canadians will be mired in the same partisan bickering.REFORM THE SENATE and half of this trouble goes away. Senators,if they wish to truly represent their regions,should not be appointed by any party or any prime minister.They should be either eleced or appointed by the government in the region which they pretend to represent.Harper has been saying that for years.It's Liberals,the BLOC and the NDP who block democracy in the Senate because the current system serves them well MOST OF THE TIME. NEVER AGAIN should the west be ruled by Ontario.Let McGuinty run his province,let us run ours.If Liberals don't want us to have a voice in Canada,stand up and say so.If you truly want an equal and united Canada,I DARE YOU to state a real position on the Senate,and make it a matter of priority.


A Concerned CDN
said

Really are you supporters of this listening to yourselves??? My Tax $ go to paying for these people to work like the rest of us. The conservatives need time to re-freshen and re-focus?!?!?!?!? Powers is kidding right? What are they five and need an afternoon nap too? That has got to be the absolute worst excuse I have ever heard. CONSERVATIVES PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME??? And as a parent that excuse of saying someone else did it doesn't wash with me. The last time I checked this government was conservative and isn't exactly a "new gov't" that had a mandate of accountability? AGAIN PLEASE EXPLAIN? The only person that doesn't want gov't to work is Harper as he keeps shutting it down. Saying the Lib Senate is blocking stuff is garbage. Proroguing is blocking stuff - hey what about all your VERY important crime bills about that you now have flushed down the toilet? My one question is why isn't the PM or other Con MPs man/women enough to come out and announce they are proroguing themselves rather than spokespersons. RIght McKay is probably too busy licking his wounds with his dog posing for another photo-op.


slymaple
said

Kinsella said Prime Minister Stephen Harper will use the time to improve conditions for his minority government by likely filling five vacant seats in the Liberal-dominated Senate with Conservative supporters. -- Well, well. if the Liberals agreed before that the senate should have been subject to election. You would not be crying foul now are you? So quit the whining already. You brought this to yourself.


Mike
said

Prorogue...routine??? If this concept was such a routine and normal procedure, why do at least 90% of us not know what the heck it was before Harper came along? Although with three times in three years under Harper, it sure seems like he wants to make it routine.Anyone not blinded by pure conservative loyalty will see this ploy for what it really is, a 'get out of jail free' card! I think Harper may have pushed most sensible Canadians to far with this under-handed political trick, will it bite him? I sincerely hope so!


James T.
said

I have full confidence in the Prime Minister's decision to invoke this minor procedural move to ensure the continuity of lawful government.


CMT
said

VACATION TIL MARCH 3 2010!!!With the exception of school teachers, the government takes the most time off and still gets nothing done!!I sure would like to have two months off to come back to work refreshed and make the same money.Get to work you fools thats what we pay you for!


Sharon North York
said

Personally, I'm sick of the partisan crap that is masquerading as democracy in Canada. Do we deserve better? Perhaps not -- we ignored the warning signs and chose the Reform doctrine. Hey, you get what you ask for. Shame on us.


Neil in AB
said

Canada - please just give the Conservatives their majority government so they can get on with screwing the country up like they have always done in the past. Then, the Liberals will have to be put back in power for 2 or 3 terms to right the ship once again!


SunCoaster
said

The options seem to be. A: Harper shut down parliament so he can go watch a hockey game and speed skating in Vancouver. B: Harper shut down parliament because he's not getting exactly what he wants in the senate. Is this the kind of democracy that we are trying to bring to Afghanistan? I think they might be closer than we think


Lois in Toronto
said

Harper can not get his own way so he shuts down parliament. I feel like I am living in Cuba /China where everyone has to 'put up ' with what the dictator wants


Bob in Toronto
said

To Carol Thoro,The Cons are right, proroguing is a normal parliamentary procedure. I believe that it's 'called' when the govt should be seated, but isn't. Case in point, Ontario 'technically' prorogued in December for a few days before the end of the fall session. The proroguing that is being done now is completely different. It is NOT to call an election, nor is it to end a 'completed' session. Anyone know if the Home Renovation Tax Credit went through? I mean actually passed...it appears as though the CRA will make the changes without it being passed...


Patricia
said

Finally ctv.ca decides to print something about Harper's folly. Where were you folks yesterday when it made the news?I think that what Harper is doing is a travesty and a tragedy and an affront to democracy. Yesterday I emailed the GG telling her of my dismay that once again this PM is getting away with undemocratic methods. I also emailed Ignatieff and asked him to gather the Opposition politicians together and formulate a plan to send Harper packing from Ottawa. True and honest Canadians despise what this egomaniac is doing to our country and if something is not done quickly Canada will be upstream with no paddles. I urge all Canadians who despise dictatorship to email their politicians, the GG and each other to put an end to this nonsense. WE can send the man packing if we put our minds to it. At least email the GG at info@gg.ca to tell her that we do not appreciate her supporting this undemocratic activity!


Truth is Liberal Kryptonite
said

Harper is King and instead of the jesters complaining they should just get back to making us all laugh.


Intelligent Liberal, PhD
said

Harper is hiding behind the Governor Generals grass skirt because he is AFRAID of Iggy. That is because IGGY knows what Canadians WANT! And they don't want Harper! Mr Harper, your time is up! Some of you people complain that Iggy doesn't know enough about how Canada works since he hasn't been here very long. But Iggy has a global perspective, with years spent in the most powerful nation on earth, so he knows about balance of power. Canada was founded on the basis that Ontario has more MP's than any other province. Quebec has a lot of MPs too but tey are mostly separatists so who cares about them. That is why the balance of power must be restored to Ontario with a Liberal government, rather than the fringe conservative party who just have MP's in the west where there is mostly rural cattle farms and no office buildings. just Tim HORTONS eveywhere but not much intelligence.


Pip
said

DVG notes that " It is time for a poltical revolution". I wonder what s/he means by that.Does s/he mean that the present system of the party holding the largest number of seats should no longer get to form the government? That an unelected body with no duty to the electors of this country can stall, even prevent legislation? That opposition parties can threaten to combine and force an extremely expensive general election any time they want?Perhaps DVG is correct. Let's get the legislation moving to change all that. Ooops, can't - for all of the above reasons. That only leaves a violent overthrow of government. I wonder just how many Canadians would support that - or is it to be done "for the good of the people"? If so, how arrogant! Real reform comes by working the system; if proroguing works, it is used; If appointing senators works, it is used. In fact, at the moment, the latter is the only means to fill vacant senate seats - the constitution says so.In the meantime, the nation gets a longer than anticipated break from the phony theatrics of Question Period, and the Speaker has longer to build up his fortitude in order to attempt to control that unruly mob, our Members of Parliament. Let's enjoy the Olympics instead.


Pat
said

I have to laugh at the Liberal comments. Speak about hypocrisy. Kinsella needs to give his head a shake and remind himself of the laws that have not been put through due to Liberal interference. Is this what he calls democracy, maybe he should look up the word in the dictionary. Ignattief and company cant get their act together, and he himself has no backbone. All I see is whine whine whine like a group of children. If he wants to be PM he sure has a lot to learn, although he thinks he knows what Canadians want. ?? He hasnt asked me. The PM is doing a good job under the circumstances and I shudder what the country would be like if Iggy was at the helm, with all his blah blah blah, I'v got a headache thinking about it.


Jeff
said

I don't see anything wrong with this. Firstly, this Afghan inquiry is blown out of proportion - let's focus are efforts in the media remembering the lost soldiers and journalists - not some political garbage.As well, it's good to support our fellow Canadians at the olympics - not be bombarded with Lib's and NDPers crying chicken little over the news everynight... enough of this! Grow up and act like adults - not 5 year olds


Sandy NS
said

Chretien did it 4 (FOUR ) times with a majority government.Was there an uproar then? I never heard it.I hope Harper gets that senate put right, and we can leave the libs to fight amongst themselves. I dont think he is hiding from the detainee question, it was in 2006 for goodness sake, we just took over from the messy liberals. Any polls show that from 1-10 this comes in at 8! he's doing the right and legal thing!


BCDarr
said

How is it that an election would kill bills and be bad but proroguing parliament and killing bills is okay.I have never felt so lied to and talked down to by a government who's only line of justification is 'the liberals were this bad too!'.Chretien prorogued 4 times over 10 years (as they like to mention). Do they understand math? Harper has done it THREE times already in 3 years!This move is the THE move that will cost the conservatives the next election. Provided they don't abolish elections completely so they can be 're-focused' all the time.


M
said

How can poroguing the Parliament 4 times in 10 YEARS compare to 3 times in 3? It is really funny how this world just plays on silly arguments like this and just blinds the eyes of so many.


Derek
said

As Powers noted, Harper has prorogued three times in three years, while Chretien only prorogued four times in ten years. Do your math here. Harper's rate of proroguing is 2.5 times more than Chretien. Hardly equivalent any way you look at it.Regardless, Harper has a proven track record of pushing through legislation that most Canadians are unhappy.The crazy part is that the media then manages to instead slag the opposition for failing to stand up to Harper while at the same time slagging the opposition for dragging their feet.Time and time again, Harper escapes unscathed while the opposition takes the fall for "allowing" unpopular Tory legislation. What is wrong with this picture?


gary
said

Of course, the proroguing of Parliament is not only undemocratic but crass opportunism at it's best. Never has Canada seen such a dictator like Harper do what he wants. The sooner the Conservatives are kicked out of office, the better. Canada will be much the better for it.


Carol Thoro
said

Jean Chretien prorogued 4 times?I have watched Politics since I was 21 which was many, many years ago and I don't recall.I didn't know really what prorogue Parliament was until last December 3. Going to the Governor General 4 times?However, we are not a factor to the world anymore not even to the U.S. Any respect that we had we are losing by the methods of this Government. We can't trust what is said to what is done so how could Leaders of any other country be sure the Government will stay firm?Things are changed by the Political climate not the good of the people. Canadian Apathy.


Laurie58
said

So, according to the Conservatives, proroguing parliament is routine. Bull! It's rarely ever done. Most of the 105 instances they site, were not the proroguing of parliament as they have done. This government is a disgrace to Canada, and if Peter Mackay and Stevie boy think they can hide behind such acts, well, we'll see....


KRB
said

The one thing I don't like about it is the 2 months thing. It didn't have to be prorogued for 2 months ... Harper could've prorogued the day before Parliament was scheduled to meet (Jan. 25th), and then gone from there into the 3rd session of this Parliament, and he would've gained control of the Senate committees, etc.Other than that, I agree that prorogation is a normal parliamentary procedure. If Parliament wants to put contraints on how prorogation can be applied, it could do that. Parliaments in England in the long past have legislated that they could not be dissolved at the whim of the King, or before that that the King had to call a session of Parliament at least once every three years (the Triennial Act, which provided for at least a 50-day sitting every 3 years). Our Constitution currently provides that Parliament must sit at least once every calendar year. We can change that, or pass a new statute. It would then come up against the Royal Prerogative, but as said prior, a long list of RP's have been curtailed through the years by a Parliament flexing its muscles.


CMQ in NB
said

Iggy in all your self-righteous stammering, all I hear in the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah of your so called representing the Canadian people is, "Please, can I now be elected, have I whined enough!" The attack ads are not what have been effective it has been your own rhetoric. All this fall on key issues we saw Liberals answer what you should have been answering and others leading the way. You were given your position because strategists thought you were the Liberal's best chance to get re-elected. You talk about democracy, go back and have a real leadership race where you are elected then you can come back and have an opinion on the subject. You want support, become credible yourself not just a complainer. Read the news, Jean C. did the same thing 4 times, why? Until you have something tangible for Canadians like an economic plan or something better please save your whining for question period where people are actually paid to listen to you.


Gord. Robson, Nova Scotia
said

Come on Warren, Tim Powers is right (as usual).The Liberal dominated senate has been holding up important Bills and when the Liberals "passed" a bill it was "watered down".As you know two Liberal Prime Ministers that prorogued numerous times were Chretien and Trudeau. 105 proroguings by Canadian governments over the years is not unusual like some so called "experts" would have us to believe.


jpb
said

Harper and Bush same cloth, shame, shame, shame, shame, shame, shame, shame


Modust
said

And the media do not have the ability to ask this Mr Harper any questions. He sure knows how to cover his rear end. Quit giving him preferred treatment and give the other parties priority coverage and maybe Harper's protective shell will bust.


Grand Torino
said

Hats off to Prime Minister Harper. This government has been more accountable than any Liberal government in the past. Democracy is not doomed. If Iggy and crew ever form government they will continue to contribute to the moral decline of society.


Chris in Ontariariari-Oh!
said

It's really ripe all this consternation coming from the liberals. Their so-called indignation and disgust cannot even begin to match their hypocrisy.They have the nerve to vote on passing legislation in the house yet allow their liberal appointed senators to either gut it or block it's passage.Or better yet have it sent back to commitee where they have control and can further stymie it.Warren Kinsella using quote's from Liberal left leaning media sources only supports the case that this parliament has reached the point where it needed an extra time out.This is a party that will use every trick in the book to regain what they feel is their rightful place and that is to govern this country the way they see fit regardless of how the majority of Canadian's feel for anyone to see otherwise are not looking at the situation clearly.We have 4 party's in the house of common's ,one is socialist,one is centre/socialist,one is centre/conservative and the other want's to break up the country.At the conservative's running at around forty percent in the poll's I would argue with this breakdown in mind the balance would favour the conservative's yet when you through in the blockhead's this number become's skewed.Anyway you slice it the liberal party has not been able to provide a logical alternative to the ruling party as they themselve's aren't really too sure where they fit in as Dion and Rae(don't forget Kennedy) took them further to the left thus disenchanting the centre/right in their party and sending them to the conservative's.With this mix we are going to be faced with minority government's for a time to come.The liberal party has become an elitist urban party and no longer share's the view's and goal's of average Canadian's as they are out of touch.


MisterD
said

If Prof Pye Chartt wants to lecture us on how the system works, s/he should find out first. In our system the PM is not the top dog - parliament is and parliament is all elected members. Every time a political party "in power" takes away the right of the other elected officials (parliamentary debate) it takes away our rights as citizens. If you want Mugabe style government then a move to Zimbabwe should be in your future.


dave
said

frlwinslowso well said! I could not agree more, the opposition behave like rotten spoiled children stamping their feet for attention. Why dont they push the government into an election, we know the answer to that question dont we.


Doug
said

Does anybody really think that the government is calling a new session because of the so-called detainee issue? Actually, most Canadians know that there's nothing there except political opportunism of the worst kind by the disjointed Liberal party and the manufactured hype from the usual, biased Toronto media.In fact, Liberals should welcome a throne speech and vote of confidence in March, with a chance to bring down the government, because that's what Iglatieff and Layton have been screaming for all this year. Right? Oh, I forgot, Ignatieff says we don't need an election. Anyway, Happy New Year to everyone as we all try and figure where the opposition stands on anything. Seems to me that the only leader in Ottawa with a clear vision for the future of Canada is the Prime Minister.


Dave Ball
said

Liberals and their media cronies are clearly out of touch with us 'unwashed masses'. Why on earth would I support the Liberals while they attack our troops? When in power they sent our troops into battle virtually unarmed, now they want to castigate them for the Afghan army's sins. They appear to be siding with the Taliban ~ our enemy. WTH? Other than the dyed-in-the-wool anti-tories, I think you'll find most Canadians support the Tories, their economic initiatives, their war management, and many other measures such as the new consumer protection act. That they wait to properly plan their next steps seems wise, rather than rushing in so they can spend their time answering Liberal complaints. And that they or the Globe and Mail complain about a lack of democracy is rich. Aren't the Liberals the party that does not bother to elect a leader? The party that tried to commandeer parliament without an election? And they complain about a lack of democracy? So when the new parliament begins, let the Libs bring down the house, and let's go to the polls for a little democracy. They have the power to do so.I for one, am ready to teach them a democratic lesson ~ at the ballot box.


John E
said

It's not that Harper locked out parliament that we should be concerned with, but Why Harper locked out Parliament? Why does he what to stop the democratic business of the House? What does he have to gain? Wasn't the House already in Xmas recess? Was the Afghan committee getting too close to discovering that Harper, MacKay, Hillier and the PMO knew full well that detainees captured by our brave and honourable troops and handed over to the Afghan military were being tortured and they turned a blind eye in direct contravention of the Geneva Conventions? The only gain I see is the Afghan committee can no longer continue sitting. Is there another reason? I think not. However, I await the spin. Has the spin now officially started? However, for now democrary in Canada has be usurped by Harper and is put on hold. Is this what we expect of a Prime Minister of a free and democratic Country? I say NO!


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

There's nothing "democratic" about forcing the Canadian public to put up with a whining, self-centered Liberal Leader who can't convince anybody that his crumbling agenda has anything to do with the betterment of Canada, the confused workings of a mouthy NDP Leader who waywardly votes for his own political benefit, a separtist Quebecer who has no regard for the confederative dominion of Canada, and an unelected, arrogant, Liberal-dominated Senate that takes pride in "teaching lessons" to any politician (including those of the same partisan stripe) that dare defy its supreme, self-important commands. Make no mistake, the aforementioned band of merry parliamentary and senatorial narcissists represent your Canadian political "dictatorship," not PM Harper and the Conservatives. With their ongoing, steadfast refusal to cooperate, maturely, and work in the best interests of all Canadians, they're determined to foolishly prove that the tail can wag the dog. Nope. Sorry. Parliament isn't government by "committee," with all party leaders having equal say. We have ONE representative head of the nation, ONE Prime Minister; and if you want to be the top dog and not something more akin to the tail, you'll need to WIN a federal election, just like the Conservatives did. What's that? You can't do that? You'd lose, miserably? Then buck-up and be quiet. This is how the "system" works, folks. Kindly recall the "lecture" given to Conservative supporters by Opposition supporters during the "Crazy Coalition" (a.k.a. "Three Stooges") period. ...Now, let's move on.


bigblue
said

What a waste of our hard earned money. This and or any government seem to think they can tossour tax dollars in the trash. i thought when i voted this party in that it would change but obviously i was wrong. Shame on you


dvg
said

Our system is a joke and Harper has proven this once again. He originally came to the table seeking change, but all he has done is shown he is no different then the rest of the clowns on Rideau St. It's time for a political revolution.


Red X
said

Proroging parliament is routine for the Harper Gov't. This is the 2nd December in a row that he has stopped the Gov't business thus wasting all the work on his crime legislation for example. Which means on March 3 would be the 3rd Throne speech of this Parliament. On a side note the Cons dodge questions and by appointing 5 more Senators will control commitees despite being a Minority Gov't acting like a Majority...nice touch on Dec. 30; while everyone is focusing on New Year's!


Janet
said

Too bad the rest of the working world cannot just prorogue things at our whim. I think it is ridiculous that they can just decide not to work...I guess we will be seeing their smiling faces when they attend their all expense paid photo shoots to the Olympics!


scott anderson
said

so is this so harper can meet the averages. if he hasn't noticed this is the second time within a year just so he can hide behind the gg to retain power.


Peter Rapsey
said

Harper is a demagogue. I am truly ashamed of where our government is heading. However, where have you been Iggy and Jack. Economic problems in our country, problems with the environmental management of our country, the diminishing of canada's reputation around the world, and the destruction of democracy have all been happening under Harper's watch...and yet we thought it was going to be thus. Iggy and Jack...get together and stop this now.


Mike in BC
said

I'm sure Harperites are happy. Now they can load the senate with the party faithful and Harper can continue his reign. Considering that less than half of the people that bothered to vote supported him, this seems undemocratic. Unfortunately the Liberals don't have anybody to take charge, so we will all just have to accept the rule of Harper.


frlwinslow
said

It is always so disconcerting to hear the whining of the NDP and the Liberals. Perhaps it is time for them to get into the camp of reality. Canadians are tired of their incessant complaining no matter what is being done. They have no realistic thoughts! Therefore, they are relegated to the downward spiral of constant "bitching" with no viable or realistic alternatives.


James
said

Warren Kinsella, a political consultant to the Liberal Party, pointed to scathing editorials in several Canadian newspapers as proof of the general public's discontent with the decision to suspend Parliament until March 3. Warren, just so you know in the future, editors do not speak for everyone. As for this...Harper is using the laws of the house to achieve many advantages. I do not think it is to avoid Afgan..That isn't going anywhere thanks to editors..


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