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Coralee Smith, mother of Ashley Smith, wipes a tear while talking about the death of her daughter during a press conference in Ottawa, Wednesday, March 4, 2009. (Tom Hanson / THE CANADIAN PRESS) Coralee Smith, mother of Ashley Smith, wipes a tear while talking about the death of her daughter during a press conference in Ottawa, Wednesday, March 4, 2009. (Tom Hanson / THE CANADIAN PRESS) An undated family handout photo shows Ashley Smith, who took her own life in a federal institution on Oct. 19, 2007. The photo was taken before she was incarcerated. Julian Falconer, the lawyer for Ashley Smith's family, holds up the report entitled 'A Preventable Death' during a press conference in Ottawa on Wednesday, March 4, 2009.

'Ashley died because no one in Canada cares'

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The mother of Ashley Smith, a teen who committed suicide in a federal prison while correctional guards watched on, vowed to keep pushing the government until 'faceless' jail officials were held accountable.
CTV Newsnet: Ashley Smith's family responds to media questions, part one
One of the things the report noted was that Smith's calls for help weren't heard. Smith's mother says that although she didn't look the same as when she left home at 15, she never revealed any details of her incarceration during the last meeting.
CTV Newsnet: Ashley Smith's family responds to media questions, part two
Howard Sapers said Tuesday that placing blame in the tragic death would not be productive. The lawyer for Ashley Smith's family says it is up to the government to expand the mandate and the investigator is put in an 'awkward position' when asked about going further.
Canada AM: Howard Sapers, correctional investigator of Canada
The report compiled by Correctional Investigator Howard Sapers says the death was completely preventable. Smith was moved 17 times during her time in the prison system and the investigator says that is one of the most troubling parts.
Canada AM: Kim Pate, Canadian Association of Elizabeth Fry Societies
In Sept 2007, Kim Pate signed a grievance on behalf of Ashley Smith after visiting the prison because of concern over the confinement of Smith and others. The process yielded no results.

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Date: Wed. Mar. 4 2009 1:47 PM ET

The mother of Ashley Smith, a teen who committed suicide in a federal prison while correctional guards watched on, vowed to keep pushing the government until "faceless" jail officials were held accountable.

During a news conference Wednesday morning, Coralee Smith fought to keep her voice steady as she told reporters she wants the names of the guards who watched her 19-year-old daughter strangle herself to death.

She said she was outraged at a recent report into the death that found the guards did nothing to help the girl because of specific orders from their supervisors not to intervene if the teen attempted suicide.

"As a family we think Ashley died because no one in Canada cares. No one," Smith said fighting back tears. "Not the guards who watched her asphyxiate, not the people who gave the orders, not the bureaucrats who knew our daughter needed help but did nothing but transfer her 17 times in 11 months."

Ashley, a troubled teen from Moncton, N.B. who was assessed by child psychologists several times in her youth, and was in constant trouble with the law.

When she was 13, she was sent to a New Brunswick psychiatric facility after she started shoving people on the street. She was sent home after 21 days of the 30-day evaluation because staff couldn't handle her, Coralee Smith said.

Two years later, Ashley got into trouble for throwing crabapples at a postal worker. Her mother said when she went to visit her in custody, she noticed several scars along her forearm from various suicide attempts. She said Ashley never tried to hurt herself before she was placed in custody.

When she was 16, Ashley was released but was arrested again a short time later for stealing a CD and pulling a fire alarm. She returned to a youth facility but after assaulting several guards, she was transferred to Ontario Grand Valley Institution, a federal prison, when she was 18.

In the 12 months that she was incarcerated, she continued to attempt suicide several times before finally succeeding on Oct. 19, 2007.

Ashley's death 'preventable'

Howard Sapers, Correctional Investigator of Canada, publicly released a report on Tuesday of his investigation into the matter. His report concluded that Ashley's death was "preventable" and that senior officials violated laws in regards to how the teen was treated while she was imprisoned. The violations include, "inappropriate use of institutional transfers, administrative segregation, and interventions involving force," the report says.

He told reporters on Tuesday that Smith had tied ligatures around her neck on several occasions prior to her death and staff had been successful in negotiating with her to remove it or forcibly removing it themselves.

According to court transcripts, seven guards watched as Smith choked herself to death because they had been instructed not to intervene.

"When staff finally did remove the ligature they exited the cell without providing any sort of medical intervention and then subsequently went back into the cell a second time where they began attempts to preserve life," Sapers said at yesterday's news conference. 

"Eventually paramedics showed up, transported Ashley to an outside hospital, where she was pronounced dead."

Sapers concluded in the report that her death marked a "disturbing and well-documented pattern of deaths in custody" and was indicative of the "lack of coordination and cohesiveness  among federal, provincial and territorial mental health and correctional systems."

Minister urged to act

At Wednesday's news conference, the family's lawyer Julian Falconer read a letter the Smiths have written to Peter Van Loan, Canada's public safety minister, appealing for him to identify the public officials who broke the law by letting Ashley die.

"The family is requesting you direct the correctional investigator to complete his work," he read from the letter. "Currently all we know is that a group of faceless bureaucrats violated the law and let Ashley Smith die alone in utterly deplorable circumstances.

"It makes a mockery of public accountability to identify law breaking but fail to identify the lawbreakers," he said.

Mark Holland, an Ontario MP who serves as the Opposition Critic for public safety, said it's imperative that an action plan be put into place to prevent a similar tragedy from occurring.

He said the minister's response to the matter has been "inadequate."

"It's imperative that there be an immediate action plan and specific dates be put into place to deal with what has been some very long-standing issues," he said.

He quoted the report's findings that Ashley's death was partly the result of "ill-functioning and under resourced correctional and mental health systems."

He said the government has worked to improve the laws around punishment but have fallen short on  implementing a strategy that would deal with prevention, particularly with people who suffer from mental disorders.

"It was through mistake after mistake after mistake that (Ashley's) death eventually resulted. It's something that should have never been allowed to occur," he told reporters at the news conference.

Coralee Smith said her family spoke to Ashley days before she killed herself but that her daughter almost never spoke of the conditions of her confinement.

She commended Sapers for his "splendid report" but repeated the family's request that the government name the people that were investigated in her daughter's death.

"We are heartbroken," she said. "I promise Canadians that I won't stop looking for answers until we can be sure that this won't happen again to a youth in this country."

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SAZ in Ottawa
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Amazing Canadian red tape at display. This just gets to show you that rules and procedures are more important than human life. What can I say except I do not have much faith in humanity


Peter from Kanata
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This young person seemed to have "unsolvable problems". She was a menace to society outside of prison as well as a menace to prison officials. She would have committed suicide anyway. "no one cares in Canada" apparently her mother didn't either or she would have dealt with the problem herself.


WestofTheRockies
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To Hold No Punches.

No normal person stands by & watches anyone die. That's it period.

By defending these people, you are as pathetic as these people.

I'll bet their families are proud of them for thinking only of them while standing by while a helpless person died.


Missopi
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She was a troubled young girl who would have done it either way.Wether it be in Jail or at home.She tried countless times before as stated in article.Why should the guards disobey their orders not to intervene and lose their jobs.Why should they be punished for allowing someone to express free will.She wanted out of living.Why punish people who did their job?Why is it in this society people need to blame someone else?Mrs Smith should accept this is what her daughter wanted and leave it at that.The problem is our mental health system.We put mentally ill people in jail instead of in mental health care facilities where they can get the help they need.


Tania Edmonton
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Doesn't anybody remeber the story of the boy who called wolf? This is not to come across insensitive, but come on, at 18 years old, you should know better


Michelle Ottawa
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It is a lonely, torturous, life to be the parent of a child with mental health and behaviour problems. You don't know what to do to help your child, you blame yourself for their behaviour, and you find extremely little support in the community. What little help that is available is exremely difficult to access and you need a PHD in working the system to figure it all out. We need to do more to help parents help their troubled kids and keep these young people out of prisons.


EdwardMean
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The fact is that this woman was mentally ill and these corrections officers were ill equipped to deal with her. She should have been in a mental health facility.

It is the system that has failed. Those in a position to help are handcuffed due to human rights issues.

As somebody who has dealt with a mentally ill mother for many years, I have seen firsthand the difficulty in getting someone help. A person must voluntarily admit themselves into care unless there is a direct threat to themselves or others. This is a human right. The problem with this is that, in general, people with mental illness do not realize that they are mentally ill. And that is why the system needs to change. Families need to be able to help their loved ones but simply cannot.

I feel for this woman, but given the current laws we have I think the outcome was probably inevitable. We need to change things in this country. We need to help those that are unable to help themselves and mental illness prevents these people from helping themselves.


WestofTheRockies
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Absolutely Disgusting! Then to top it all off the Union rep for the guards that watched this all happen, defended them saying either they followed orders or they would have lost their jobs & this would have affected their families! Unbelievable, blind rhetoric over substance that’s the new union cry.

This is the same pathetic defence mounted by most of the Nazi's tried at the Nuremburg trials.

This young person was very difficult to handle according to another official. Another pathetic excuse. Blame the victim, is now the mantra of law & order personnel in Canada

How anyone, regardless of what they were told by anyone could stand by and actually watch anyone die is completely beyond the capacity of any normal person to understand. Too bad a helpless young woman is dying, I have my job & family to consider.

One would hope that this would haunt these people for the rest of their lives, but anyone so hard hearted that with the ability to stop it who then stands by and lets this happen will probably not loose a wink of sleep.

We wonder how the horrors of WW II, Bosnia, Rawanda, etc happen. This is how, this is the thin edge of the wedge.

Pathetic!





Dave A from Ottawa
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What a shame! I understand she was in for a pretty minor offence. Brings new meaning to the term "suicide watch". (not a joke) I'm wondering if this is what Harper means when he says he gets "Tough on Crime"?
Somebody needs to be held accountable.


Don Crone
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I disagree with the comments about our country being a dictatorship, it is worse than that, it is a nation of people who don't give a damn because it doesn't happen to them, what a bloody shame!
If our people really cared then enough hell would be raised that the guards and their boss would all face criminal charges


seval
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i am really disappointed about canada. Canada has created an image that it is one of the best country in the world. Actually if u live here, you see the real face of canada. It is like rotten apple. this incident is really sad that young girl died and the others just watched.


Ted
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why was she not in a mental institution and sedated when she was uncontrolable. I think the whole system failed as well as her parents.


Craig
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People are responsible for their actions. Suicide is pathetic; implication-the person doing it is too. Forfeiting your responsiblity to yourself does not transfer that burden to anyone else by default.


Wayne
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Mike from Ajax, Health Care Worker, and Psych Nurse

Thanks for your well written comments.

Kojak
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no one is responsible but herself.


Its Very Sad, Ottawa
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Ah, thats a shame that this poor mother is greiving so badly she has yet to face the fact that Ashley died because she chose to choke herself to death.

The correctional officers, in their world of fear, abuse, and unbelievable stress that would cripple the rest of us, will have to live with what they did not do, but Ashley is gone because she was determined to strike out at both society and herself from an early age.
I feel sorry for all of them - every person who is mentally ill and uncared for, every victim of that mentally ill person and every family member who has to deal with such grief.
Such sadness in this world...


Ontario CO
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Ok, I have to chime in here. This inmate was an obvious security risk. She was combative and assaultive on a regular basis. It's interesting to see everyone paint her in the light of a misguided angel. All you people who condem the CO's need to get some sort of clue.


Karen Sk
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I care! I am so sorry! What can I do to help the plight of Coralee Smith and the children who are "falling through the cracks"? Prisons are not where our children belong,they need the same amount of care, support, and health dollars a child with cancer recieves.I believe the death rate for mental illness is a lot higher (% wise)than for cancer.When mental illness is treated with the same compassion as other diseases only then will anything change!! But I do want to help as I have a teen son that i don't want this happening to nor do i want one more person to suffer the fate of Ashley ther have been too many already!


Dave Alberta
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I don't feel a bit sorry for this person. She took her own life. Stop blaming others for her stupidy. Where was her family in the first place? Her family ultimately is responsible as well. If they would have been there for their daughter in the first place this likely never would have happened. Give me a break.




Victoria
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My name is Victoria H and I care!



Maureen
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Was this preventable - maybe, I really don't know. I do care about this child, but unfortunately she falls into a very small group of individuals - people with mental illness AND have criminal intentions - and there is not good place for them. As the article pointed out, they are hard to treat in a mental health facility (of which there is a huge shortage in Canada and elsewhere) and detention/jails are not the place for them either (and the guards do not have training to deal with this group of individuals since they might only encounter an individual once in the duration of their work life). Restraining her 24/7 might have prevented this, but I'm sure a human rights commission would find that her rights had been violated (and they would have been and believe me I'm no fan of human rights commissions!). It goes on and on and on. But demanding that her guards be strung up is a understandable reaction, but doesn't really help the situation. Our society is expected to tailor make solutions for every situation that comes along - and it just can't. The schools cannot come up with individual classes for the 10 different giftedchildren or children with disabilities; our health care system cannot come up with individual solutions to all of patients needs; and our justice system cannot tailor sentences to every situation. Actually we can, but it would require that all the money that we earn be handed over to governments to come up with the solutions and that probably is not going to happen.


Caroline
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You people cry for blood... Yea it's horrible what happened but you people need to start looking at the bigger picture. Be angry with yourselves for not protesting against a punishment based criminal justice system. Be angry for not protesting against redundant and useless "get tough on crime" campaigns. Be angry at yourselves for not pushing for more effective rehabilitation programs. The media and these campaigns are all insanely bias. And it sickens me that people open their mouths before even knowing what they are talking about. Don't be morally outraged for something you also did nothing to prevent.


Cody Sponaugle
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this is so tragic and it really makes one wonder about those who run our Penal System in Canada....to think that certain individuals simply watched this girl die is totally unacceptable.....perhaps criminal. An investigation must follow....


Hold NoPunches
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In total defense of the Correctional Officers, and to answer the question of the first post, yes, Correctional Services are ran like a dictatorship. Hate to say it but chances are if the Officers disobeyed the direct orders of their managers, they would have potentially lost their jobs. What would you have done in their case?, and please be honest(at least with yourselves)


Cindy Woodcock
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Cindy, Toronto
This is truly a tragic story, and my heartfelt sympathy goes out to the family of this young girl.

I am a mother of a 15 year old boy who is quite troubled. I have had many interactions with law over the last three years -- some positive and some extremely negative. I'm appalled at Canada'a youth justice system.


Chris in Ontariariari-Oh!
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There are a lot of unanswered question's regarding this girl's death that still require answer's.
I still have a hard time understanding why the guard's would still leave that girl in that situation.I would rather take a disciplinary action than risk what happened to that girl.As far as the manager's in charge of the facility are concerned there need's to be an investigation into their role and what punitive action need's to be taken.This whole affair need's to be reviewed to find out why the system failed this girl and to draft the necessary protocol's to deal with and ensure that this will never happen again.This girl has been bounced through the system from an early childhood to a young adult and has not gotten the help she needed maybe if she had been properly diagnosed at an earlier age this may have been avoided.Our law's make it difficult to treat the mentally ill and many tend to fall through the crack's unfortunately ending up in the justice system.Let's hope something good come's out of this for anyone else who may find themselve's in this position.


beverly - lethbridge
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I urge anyone who did not view it to go to the Canada AM web page and watch the "Smith's death was "preventable" segment that ran this morning.

What a horrifying story for any parent of an obviously mentally ill child - or the parent of ANY child at all.

Coralee Smith is right. NO ONE cared enough to even get psychiatric help for an obviously disturbed youth.

Shame on all of us for not crying out in protest and shame on the government officials and staff who perpetrated this crime on a young life.


Retired Soldier in Kingston, ON
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The neanderthal supervisors and prison guards, who stood by and did nothing as Ashley Smith, a teenager, died because "they were just following orders" prove that not only are they gutless and inhumane; they also need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and fired from Corrections Canada!!

The SS and the garden variety Nazi's in WW2 pleaded as much when confronted by Allied prosecutors with their collective crimes!

Now, speaking as a life long Conservative, if the current government does'nt act immediately, investigate and prosecute these sub-human individuals then the Conservatives are no better than the guards who stood by and watched them die.

Consequently, if no action is taken, I'll have to hold my nose and vote Communist in the next election as no party is currently worthy of high office!!

Peter Van Loan; are you listening?? Imprsion and then fire these shmucks and, as a society, lets show public support for Ashleys mother, and ensure this never happens again!!

Pro Patria


Laura
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So many of those that have commented are being manipulated by the media. Please realize that this story does not provide all the facts and is very one sided. Think critically from multiple perspectives before you call for someone's life and career to be destroyed just because they're willing to do a job that you aren't willing to do.

Clearly the system is flawed and is in need of additional funding and bureaucratic changes, but remember that our system is based on rehabilitation not punishment, and that should apply to the guards as well. Perhaps they need better training or supervision? If you care enough to write an emotional and outraged comment, care enough to write a well thought out letter to your MP. We can't get a life back, but we can prevent issues in the future.


Brittany
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I care.


AD
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Quoted from Dave:
"Get real - there aren't enough guards to constantly watch and intervene every time an inmate threatens suicide."

I suppose seven guards watching this happen weren't enough to prevent this suicide?


willy...
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Yep, the Judges are out today i see.....
Well yours truly was a Jail Guard.
Yours Truly had his face kicked in....
Yours Truly had feces and urine and spit "occurrences".
Yours Truly was taken Hostage, albeit for a short time...by the elite of whom you show sorrow for.
'till you walked the cell block or dormitory hallways folks...take a hike.


Andrea
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Canada needs better programs for social counselling , and for helping people who are suicidal.


Mike from Ajax
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I used to work at a youth detention center. Youths would threaten suicide all the time, it becomes common place for kids locked up to threaten suicide every couple days.

In the case of strangling themselves it is all they can do, as they have no weapons or anything else.

Most people are not capable of strangling themselves, as they pass out before life slips away.

I was responsible for watching this happen as well. We were told to watch them attempt to strangle themselves, as it is (was) an attempt to gain attention, and not a real suicide attempt. (This sad story is the first I have heard where someone succeeded in strangling themselves).

Some of the kids were violent and would use a suicide attempt to get a guard inside the lock up so they could attack them. So occasionally this is for the safety of the guards (which is top priority).

Granted, in this situation, there comes a time when we must step in... but the only way to truly prevent such things would be to restrain any suicidal kids/prisoners just so they can't kill themseves...

Suicide attempts are a very regular occurence in youth jails, this is a 1 in a million case where the youth succeeded.

My solution? She should have been restrained completely, hands and feet. But as I said, this is SO common, especially strangling attempts, that this could have easily happened at any youth prison.

The ONLY options are completely restrain all suicidal prisoners, or allow them to kill themselves. Obviously they cannot keep all suicidal prisoners strapped down 24/7 so these cases are bound to happen.

Preventable? perhaps... but these are the details everyone should be aware of before passing judgements on a faulty system...

There is room for change, but this is not an obvious 'shame on Canada' situation.


Mel
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I find it interesting that when the victim is a 19 year old girl people are outraged to hear that she is in a prison instead of a mental facility but on the flip side of the issue we are also following the Vince Li/Tim McClane case where the family and others want an obviously mentally ill person in a regular prison. What this county needs more then anything is an evaluation of how we ultimately deal with the mentally ill who commit crimes.


Josh
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That is bull, I am so sorry to hear this.

My thoughts and sympathy go out to the family.


-Josh from Ohio, United States


David from Edmonton
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Disgusting, disgraceful, reprehensible - the guards who watched her kill herself should be charged as accessories to murder and the low lifes who gave the order to not intervene should be charged with murder. My condolences to Coralee who will likely never see justice done. Rest in peace Ashley, you didn't deserve this.


Charles
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What irresponsible adut and a corrections as well would follow orders to 'not intervene" if suicide is attempted. This was tragic and preventable. Those officers must be charged and hopefully convicted of gross neglagence and non performance resulting in a death. The correctional service clearly needs a leadership replacement.


Zand
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Mrs. Smith, I care.


Diana Parker
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my heart is breaking for you and your family Mrs. Smith.

Put a vulnerable young woman in solitary confinement for days upon days and what ould you expect? heck a very storng, mature person might have thoughts of taking their life.

How on earth could the guards watch a person choke themselves to death and not intervene. Sickening.
Canada- what is happening to us? Where is the compassionate society I was so proud of gone?

Do something NOW government.
Again to the family-your pain is imeasurable but know that many of us DO care. take care of yourselves.


EA
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Poor Poor Ashley and for those others who will be a statistic if things do not change. This should never have ever happened. How on earth would or could anyone stand by a watch anyone person die!!!!!???????????. Shame on all that are involved!!!


LaLa
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That this tragedy occured in one of our prisons while prison staff stood by and watched is absolutely inexcusable, disgusting and an utter disgrace to our country. My heart goes out to Ashley's family, my outrage to the Minister of Public Safety for dragging his feet on this.


Health Care Worker
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If you people only knew the number of suicides in this country everyday, you wouldn't believe it. Its mindboggling. They don't release those numbers for privacy reasons. This is a terrible shame, but once someone has it in their head, its hard to stop them. They will eventually succeed. Seen 17 suicides in one nightshift, on a Friday night, at the hospital where I work. Maybe if it was made more public, some type of program could be set up to help these people out.


Paul in Mississauga
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The lives of the prisoners are the responsibility of the jailers. It would make a lot of sense to me that charges of crimal negligence casuing death are laid. As for the orders not to intervene - that defence didn't work at Nuremburg, so good luck with it.


D in SK
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I think this is terrible. I really do. I hate to say this but, what if they intevened? Then we would've had an inquiry on this and then all of those who intervened would be investigated etc. I think this has happened before where they have intervened and there was heavy consequences to them. Thus setting the tone for the future and avoid intervening or else. I think that what happen to Ashley is horrible but I also think that the people who could've stepped in were caught on a catch 22. The gov't needs to review their correctional policies. Then again, correctional workers aint angels and they tend to be the scum of society. During the gov't strike here, many govt employees went to work at the jails and the inmates told many stories of how better they are treated by the gov't employees vs the actual correctional employees. Goes to show you who they hire in these places and why they don't step up.


darico
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The tragedy like this reminds me of the similar tradegy at vancouver airport. It seems to me we have people in high places where accountibility does not exists !! In fact it is true we have a broken system not only in Police force but on most every level of goverment. We need change in this country !!!


Psych Nurse
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As a mental health professional I am interested in knowing what condition she had. It is common knowledge that people suffering from borderline personality disorders often display suicidal crises over and over again. Sometimes playing games until unfortunately they are successful. They can deteriorate in hospital because when they are constantly monitored and cared for they never learn how to cope with real life. They are often discharged from hospital because they get worse from all the attention they get. If this was the situation I can understand why the guards were told not to interfere. It's terribly unfortunate that the mental health/corrections systems failed to keep her alive. This is a wake up call though for us to begin finding better ways to care for the mentally ill.


kyra
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this is horrifying! I cant believe this could happen anywhere, nm in Canada, I am embarressed by our institions and Governments actions. And i am sorry for her family, this should not have happened.


George Lawrence Thunder Bay ON
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This was very unfortunate.What makes it more heartbreaking is that it was preventable.Not so much that she was convicted of a serious enough crime to be sentenced to a Federal Institution. but that this obviously troubled young women did not apparently receive any help or attention from those officers who were responsible and obligated to give her and other inmates some basic care and attention to their mental and physical condition.and report anything that might indicate a problem to their superiors.Unfortunatly that does not appear to have happened in this case.Lets hope that this will be corrected asap


Dr John Smythe
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Will these guards and supervisors ever be charged ... or will this merely be swept under the carpet as have countless other travesties of justice in Canuckistan.

ALL Police and Peace officers should be liable to at least 3 times the sentence of anyone else because these people are supposed to uphold and enforce the law.


Frank
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I have read the story, and the part where the guards say they were "told not to intervene" as well as the comments and one thing keeps coming back to haunt me. In the end it is the same defence that the Nazis used at Neuremberg...."I was following orders" Have we as a society become such a herd of sheep that we cannot...or will not, have any sense of personal responsibility or ideal of right and wrong? That we so fear for our jobs...or our positions...or who knows what... that we simply refuse to apply any sense of personal morals??? God Help Us.


Caroline
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Unfortunately, I lay the majority of the blame on the public. Why is it that we have to wait for the death of a young girl before we get up in arms about the poor conditions of our correctional justice systems? We knew about the poor refunding and limited training our correctional institutions receive but we could have cared less... Up until now. The majority of Canadians are too conservative when it comes to the correctional system and as a result we create deaths like these. The mother was right when she said no one in Canada cares. No one cares about the families who have to face the pain of having someone they love in jail. If we did we would be pressuring the Harper government, or any government for that matter, to set up more public services for children and adults like Smith to prevent the escalation of situations like these. For shame Canada, the bureaucrats and correctional officers are not the only ones who are to blame.


KLK
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Putting names and faces so that blame can be attached to the death of a girl who was clearly troubled and leading a doomed life which appeared to have started long before her incarceration will not solve anything. Before doing that, should we open up discussion of her home life to see if that's where her troubles began and if any blame lies there too?

Corrections staff deal day in and day out with people and situations that most of us don't even like to think exist and they do it for very little pay and very little recognition. If every once in a while something goes bad, I'm willing to cut them some slack. As someone said yesterday, there wouldn't be all this fuss if it was some child molester we were talking about, but then again, we don't even know why she was in the system.


Roby-D
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No matter what my boss told me to do, if someone is physically dying in front of me, I'm going to do everything I can to help them.
From what I understand, the guards are members of a union, and therefore would have had assistance to fight any insubordination disciplenary actions that may have resulted from intervening, not that I would stop long enough to think of such a fact in an emergency.


Have a heart, Canada.
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My heart goes out to the mother. It must have been so difficult to watch a daughter with a mental disability spiral downward with no assistance. When you have this "crack down on bodies" mentality this is what happens. Without compassion, restorative justice, and holistic healthcare our nation will go more and more behind. Stop making criminals out of mentally ill persons and give them the assistance they need. Get some university experts on the subjects to assist and for God's sake, have a compassionate, intelligent heart with integrity, Canada. Don't go in the way of the US for the last 8 years.


NB
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WTF? Was that Guantanomo or Canada?
All those guards, supervisors and bureaucrats must be identified and charged. I have lost all respect for our correctional and police forces. After the tasering death of the Polish immigrant in Vancouver and now this, Canada needs to get off her high horse and we must clean up our act!


Christina
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Poor girl. :( Nobody should just sit on their hands and WATCH when another person takes their own life - I don't care about the situation. It's horrible, especially when she'd already been assessed and they KNEW she was suicidal. We should be PROTECTING those who are clearly not able to make good decisions about their own welfare. Not letting them kill themselves! :( I feel sorry for her family and I hope they get the justice they seek.


Sandy- Belleville
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This should not happen In Canada but the moral outrage with just a one sided report is over the top. You all want the sytem to work, but who is offering to pay more taxes or work at a prison guard. My uncle is a guard and he has to get monthly AIDS tests and he had been spit on pissed on, had feceas thrown on him and blood splattered on him more then once. He has had at least 2 black eyes and I believe a broken rib over his 20 years dealing with inmates. This was indeed tragic and we should get to the truth but to lambaste the guard for a sytem that need more resources is not the way.


ReyC - Toronto
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I felt sorry for Ashley Smith. But I think this is the trend that is happening in this country. If people themselves don't care about they parents and would rather send them to seniors home so that they can have their life, how would you expect these people to have compassion for other people. They won't care. For them they're just doing their job. So sad this is happening in this country.


Julebran
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My condolences to the family of this victim of the system. What a shame. A lot of troubling things have been happening in this country for a long time. Changes need to be made, first with public opinion. We need to be a more compassionate society. It's not, unfortunately...


Ian
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This person has attempted and failed many times to kill herself, we have not been given anywhere NEAR the information required to form an educated opinion of this situation. I feel for the mother, but I need more info befor laying blame anywhere.


ian Stant-karma
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just publish the names and pictures of the guards...instant karma!


George from saskatoon
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There is a reason why they have a no intervene policy and thats to deal with the safety of everyone else involved. How were they to know it wasn't just a ploy to get them to open the cell only to have her attack them.

Argue all you want I commend these people on following through with their orders.


Art
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The guards did exactly what they were told to do. It is not like they are medic, or that this was the first, second or twelth time young miss smith had attempted this. It was simply a matter of time.
Not that this isn't a tragity or a shame, but you will only be able to stop someone so many times before they succeed. Everyone seems to be talking like this was a sudden and unexpected event with her, becasue it wasn't.


sandy
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In the early 70s my husband and I went to a public meeting in Calgary held by the Justice Minister what we left with was the inmpression (reality) that the people employed as prison guards in Canada weren't much better than the people that were incarcerated (hence the reason for the Commission that held hearings across the country) a sad day it is indeed when some thirty years later nothing has been done and a suicide is "watched" - wake up people - the guards responsible for this tragedy need to be disciplined.


Barb
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There were enough guards to sit and watch her do it. This was a very troubled child, not some serial killer. Even a serial Killer s/b prevented from doing this. How could any human being sit and watch this happen I want to know who they were also! No one could tell me not to intervene because I am human.


nc
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Outrageous SHAME!!!!!!!!!
If this is true. Even on a most basic human level one of those guards should have intervened. If someone higher up ordered guards to not to intervene. This person must be tried for some criminal act. I have little respect for this present federal govt.


Donna
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Coralee Smith's story touches my soul. I've pointed out for years to anyone who would listen how inexcusably inadequate the mental healthcare system is in Canada. I can't express how heartbroken I am for Ashley and her family. Coralee is an inspiration and gives hope to a seemingly hopeless issue. She just may be the face and voice that can help bring about change. Here's hoping!


Roger T
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The Gov't didn't do enough to prevent her death. Our gov't is good at giving lectures about other countries but yet forget that they themselves have obligations to protect and do what is neccessary to prevent citizens from dying.

All talks but no actions in our country!


Barry in Ottawa
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This is a truly tragic story, and Like some of the previous comments, this shouldnt happen in Canada !!...The reason this young lady was in Federal custody is beside the point...everything that could have been done SHOULD have been done, and that is CLEARLY not the case here...Those who gave the orders not to assist her should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the Law possible and so should those guards !!... Simply "Following orders" didnt work for Hitlers boys and it shouldnt work here either...regardless of whatever events unfolded to put this person in that cell.. at the end of the day she was still a person....and arent those in authority suppose to help protect us.... sometimes even from ourselves.... Just a thought...


AllYouNeedIsLove
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Don't believe for an instant Ashley Smith was alone in her situation. Why else would the Conservatives have granted millions in additional funding to CSC with the objective of improving mental health care in Canada's prisons? No one at the Minister's Office (Day and now Van Loan) can say they didn't know. Mrs. Smith was tranfered 17 times in only one year. That is a lot of paper to process... And these transfers took place because of various security incidents. Wasn't there enough paper trace to at least justify a headsup to the Minister, mostly since Stockwell Day was awaiting, in mid-october 2007, a review of CSC's operations conducted by Robert Samson. That report was delivered to Day on October 31, 2007. Mrs. Smith died less than two weeks before... The Samson Review Panel toured Canada and talked to staff, middle and senior managers everywhere they went. That report focussed heavily on mental health issues. Are we to believe nobody at CSC discussed Mrs. Smith's case with a committee charged specifically to review all of its operations? Strangely, Day's Office never made a big announcement regarding the Samson Report. It's publication was delayed for months after Mrs. Smith died in CSC's custody. Why? This case, I'm afraid, is only the tip of a very, very ugly iceberg... Which is why CSC is so elusive and secretive about it.

Perhaps the Minister of Public Safety is not told everything.

Perhaps CSC is conveniently keeping some secrets...

Both hypothesis are of great concern. Canadians deserve to know and secrecy has to stop! Lifes are at stake here...


simon
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If such inhumane behaviour is acceptable to the guards, the officers, the politicians, and the PM for that matter, Canada has no right to point fingers at Sudan, Zimbabwe, Afghanistan, etc.

What a shame!
I would like to see drastic, and immediate actions to correct this.
Some heads should roll.....


Todd Hagar
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Don't blame correction officers for doing nothing. They did exactly what their job was - detain and provide security. The prison guards are not employed as babysitters or doctors. So what happened was tragic - yes. Now if there was medical staff employed on hand to deal with individual problem cases - nothing like this would ever happen.


Dave P.
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I don't know about how the rest of Canada feels, but my heart goes out to Mrs Smith. She is Bang on with her views of an uncaring society, government and justice system. If there was ever a time revolt and take this country back, Now would be the time.


Elaine, Cranbrook
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It is long past time when people with mental health problems are put in prison rather than into a mental health facility. In the hospital they should be medicated so they can gain control over their lives. The medication must be used in order for them to recognize that they have a problem and that they can have fullfilling lives with a chronic illness.


Anne
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The total disregard of care for this young girl is repulsive. I don't care what those guards were ordered not to do, the fact that they did not ignore those (evil, there is no other word for that) orders indicates that they themselves have an abhorrant character flaw. They should be charged. As should be whoever the despicable person is that would even order such a thing.


Larry
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This is a shame onto our corrections facilities. It is a breakdown of our morals and conduct of social responsibility. These "corrections" officers did not conduct any degree of corrections for the actions of this girl. The government must assume responsibility if they act to take a person out of society and into their care.

In my opinion, the officers involved as well as the warden and and all in the chain of command, that gave the order to not act, should be charged with assisting a suicide, second degree murder. The facility should be shut down, and the charged officials behind bars.


Dave
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Get real - there aren't enough guards to constantly watch and intervene every time an inmate threatens suicide. Besides, the law doesn't require people to prevent suicide, and for good reason. You wanna kill yourself that's your business; if other people want to help cudos to them, but noone's obliged.

Dean
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Who could sit and watch someone strangle themselves? How could you not intervene?

Rhona Bennett
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The Canadian Government,whatever party they represent have always failed it's citizens. We see and hear about it every day.The RCMP, The Justice System, Child Welfare and Mental Health, to name a few.Canada has a wonderful facade for the world, but behind the scenes it is more like a third world regime. We need to stand up for change. Remember this when we vote and demand accountability.


Sandra from Montreal
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Suicide should NEVER be taken lightly, even if given orders not to intervene, surely someone there had to have a heart and want to intervene, but no all they cared about was their job and not to get fired if they had intervened. God makes the final judgment when their day comes (the guards). But since they are still on earth, they should be SEVERELY punished, how on earth does anyone WATCH someone commit suicide ??? Only selfish people.


what on earth
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Tell me what normal human being would not have intervened even if it meant losing your job. As a mother of an 18 yr old who has contemplated suicide, I can't imagine what this mother is going through. This 19yr old was barely an adult, and still someone's child. I can't tell you how upset we should be with our society who has become so desensitized that we stand there and watch someone take their last breath, until it happens to us directly. This mother deserves a very public apology.


FreakAlert
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Just sickening that something like this happens in Canada


Fatman
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I have always believed once a person is incarcerated the state assumes all responsibility for that individuals welfare. In this case I hold the opinion that the state and those representing the state failed miserably in ensuring the safety and security of this person, including from the harm she inflicted upon herself.

All concerned, guards, supervisors, the warden and all other faceless bureaucrats who played a part in this tragedy should be held fully accountable and pay an appropriate price for their participation. I hold that termination of employment and jail time would fall into the catagory of "appropriate price".

My condolences to the Smith family and the deceased friends for the pain they endure due to the lack of compassion and common sense that should have been, but wasn't, demonstrated in this case by those in positions of responsibility and authority.






Jarrod in Victoria
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If the government is going to assume responsibility for a person by taking them out of society then they have to follow through with responsible treatment. No person and no person's family deserves this kind of treatment. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't assisted suicide illegal? Standing back and doing nothing while watching someone commit suicide is passively assisting is it not?


B
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These officers should not only be fired but should be charged and the nameless bureaucrats should be named and charged as well.


Wayne Butt
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Incredible! Shame on our country. This is stuff of a dictatorship; a regime. Not Canada. Who would not intervene when a young girl is dying even when a heartless boss says 'don't intervene if she's still breathing.' This is mind bogling. Let's hope this poor, grieving mother finds answers to what is a sickening, bizarre, tale of...of what? What do you call this? Very sad, indeed!


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