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Date: Tue. Feb. 26 2008 12:52 PM ET

Expect an election-year budget from the Conservative government this afternoon that even takes some ideas from the Liberals, says CTV's Ottawa bureau chief.

"They're looking at urban Canada and particularly vote-rich Ontario," Robert Fife told Canada AM on Tuesday about the Tories' strategy.

"What you're going to see are some measures to help the auto sector ... There's going to be money for job creation in terms of infrastructure, targeted largely to Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver."

The Tories found themselves shut out of Canada's three largest cities in the Jan. 23, 2006 federal election, leading in part to a minority government.

Fife said the Tories have stolen some of those ideas from the Liberals, "including a plan to make permanent a gas tax transfer to the municipalities."

The auto industry will get a $200-million fund to help manufacturers write off the cost of new machinery and equipment. The infrastructure fund is expected to be called Build Canada, and will be worth $500 million.

Some other areas of spending could also include:

  • A working tax credit to keep low-income Canadians in the workforce;
  • More money for science and technology;
  • Training more scientists;
  • Setting up a carbon capture project in Alberta's oilsands; and
  • Money for cleaning up lakes.

Although the Conservative campaign team wants an election, neither Prime Minister Stephen Harper nor Liberal Leader Stephane Dion want to go to the polls, he said.

Harper has taken some Liberal ideas to make it even less likely that the Grits will vote down the budget, Fife said.

Conservative strategist Ezra Levant says the prime minister will show in this budget that he's a "prudent, responsible manager."

You're not going to see a lot of spending, but ... I think you'll see some smart moves on how Canadians can invest their own money, maybe some changes to capital gains taxes or RRSPs," Levant told CTV's Canada AM. "And I think that will have a greater stimulus effect far better than the government throwing cash around."

Recently, the Conservatives have tried to paint Dion as a spendthrift who would plunge the country back into deficit. Last fall, during the government's economic update, the Tories announced tax cuts totalling about $60 billion over five years, including a one percentage-point cut in the Goods and Services Tax.

Levant said he suspects Harper is more eager to go to the polls than Dion. "He (Dion) is probably smart," he said, adding it could benefit the Liberals if the economy is softer six to 12 months from now.

Prudence

The government is expected to announce a surplus of $13 billion for the 2007-08 fiscal year, up from a previous estimate of $11.5 billion.

Jane Taber, a Globe and Mail political writer and co-host of CTV's Question Period, told Canada AM that the higher surplus will give Finance Minister Jim Flaherty a bit more room to manoeuvre.

"All we've heard for the last couple weeks from the Tories who have come on (Question Period) is that 'this is going to be a prudent budget for uncertain times,'" she said.

The Liberals, based on the leaks they've heard, have decided they will not defeat the budget, Taber said.

To prevent the budget's passage, all three opposition parties would have to vote it down -- an act of non-confidence that would almost certainly trigger an election.

Flaherty will deliver his budget at 4 p.m. ET today in the House of Commons.

"People ought not to expect any big spending items because we have to stay within our means and be prudent and fiscally responsible, which we will be tomorrow," he told reporters on Monday.

But he did admit there would be some good-news surprises in the document.

Canada's economy is expected to slow somewhat this year. On Monday, the International Monetary Fund predicts economic growth of 1.8 per cent in Canada in 2008. Last fall, the IMF predicted 2.8 per cent growth for Canada this year.

Statistics Canada reported Tuesday that the number of people receiving Employment Insurance went up in December for the first time in five months.

BNN's Michael Kane told Canada AM that the budget will come out after the stock markets close, so investor reaction to the budget will become known on Wednesday.

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Devon K.
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"...however when are Canadians going to have a party that thinks first on Canadians. Our cities need billions to fix roads, sewers and other problems and we are wasting that money on Afghanistan, Haiti and Africa just to name a few." B. Johnson, Brampton.

Definitely a comment that needs to be addressed. This outlines, again, the philosophical differences between the political right and left when it comes to running government. The left will look to use government as a tool to fix the ills of the nation regardless if it is or is not constitutional. The right will not and instead focus on giving money via tax cuts to fix problems.

Take this issue of roads, bridges, sewers, and all that local infrastructure. This is the responsibility of the municipalities. They are to build and maintain these items. As they are creatures of the provinces they can go to them for additional funding. In reality they should never go to the Feds since that is bypassing the Provincial government. At the same time the Feds should not be interfering with the municipalities as that also bypasses the Provinces. Constitutionally it is not the role of the Federal government to do any of this either.

Now what the Federal government can do and has done is cut its share of the tax pie. Those $100 billion in tax cuts are for the taxpayers but the Provinces and Municipalities are free to consume them back into their coffers.

That said why don't they just go a head and do that. Why don't they stay within their mandates and do what they think is necessary? Well the political price of raising taxes is huge. It is easier to ask for a handout from Ottawa than take the hit politically.

Premier McGuinty is a great example. He keeps going to the media playing the "Ontario needs help and Ottawa is mean" card. Well McGuinty is free to raise his provincial sales tax 2% and raise his provincial income tax too and cover his shortfalls and be flush in cash. He won't do that because he'd rather paint the Feds as mean spirited cheap skates than answer to the voters for raising taxes.


Dave in Surrey
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Just so everyone knows, before the GST there was a hidden 11% federal tax... GST was more effecient and did effect more products, but did not create the amount of money the Conservatives are telling everyone...

Hence why they are slashing it now, because it is not a huge money maker...

Truth is, Trudeau and Mulroney failed at the economy... Chretien/Martin suceeded... Harper is failing at the economy as he is following Flaherty who destroyed the economy of Ontario as Finance Minister...


MRC
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Although the help for cities is very kind, cities should not rely on the Feds. If a city cannot pay for it's infrastructure (etc.) from it's own tax base, then it simply just grown too much, too fast. Does anyone consider that growth for the sake of growth is not a good thing???

Limiting growth will solve a LOT of problems in this world, including one particular problem that so many people get in an uproar about...

By the way, Don J, stick your "neo-con...accidental success" comment where the sun don't shine because nobody wants to hear complaining like that. Toughen up.
Read above on limiting growth, you'll find an answer.


Phil
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To Al Wood:

Last time I checked, a large fraction of the country lives in one place and works in another. How many towns would be abandoned if not for the municipalities (with jobs) around them. Only a narrow-minded back-woods Conservative would object to supporting municipalities...

LM
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CTV, Please don't interview or quote Ezra Levant anymore. That guy is not impartial at all. He practically caries blue and white tory pompoms around.


B. Johnson, Brampton
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Truth is there is no opposition to the Conservatives however when are Canadians going to have a party that thinks first on Canadians. Our cities need billions to fix roads, sewers and other problems and we are wasting that money on Afghanistan, Haiti and Africa just to name a few.


Sean Calder
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Don J, part of reason for that is because many Canadians live well beyond their means. Buy now, pay later is their mentality, and while they truly intend to make the sacrifices "next month" in order to have what they want "this month", it rarely ever happens because there's always something they want "this month".

As Devon K. said, Canadians have come to expect a Nanny State from their government. They want the government to solve all their problems and take care of everything for them so that they don't have to be responsible when things go bad. It'll always be someone else's fault.

And of course the Conservatives care that people need help. They just want to put those people in a position to help themselves. Give a man a fish and he eats for a day; teach him how to fish and he eats for the rest of his life.

Conservatives do not believe in a Nanny State that intrudes upon your own responsibilities and freedoms. They're willing to help out, but they won't do it for you. That's what Conservative budgets are about. Taking only what is needed to do what they need to do, and returning the rest to you to take care of your own affairs.

The Liberals and especially the NDP believe otherwise.


Doug
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Liberals will likely support the budget because it will be more like a PC budget,than a Reform budget.
Two things stand out in the postings I read so far.
First,only a partisan Liberal would give all the credit to the Liberals for balancing the budget.The real process for eliminating deficit spending started long before Paul Matrin even saw debt as a problem.
Second,the "small surplus created from a large surplus" is not a sign of failure,but reflects the reality that Canadians are not being over-taxed as much as they have been in the past.Those "extra" dollars are in our pockets.
Finally,from the west,I wouldn't care if Ontario wanted to be "ultra liberal",or even socialists,IF they could keep that disease within their own borders.Sadly,if McGuinty wants something in Ontario,he doesn't go about doing it.He assigns the responsibility on the federal government,and expects all of Canada to fall into his line.If he opposes GST cuts,for example,let us have the cuts.He does have the authority to raise the PST if Ontarians want more taxes. I hear BC's LIBERAL finance minister on the radio this AM talking about how well they get along with this government and it's record on the economy.
No matter.There will be less taxes,and lower debt as long as my former party,the Liberals,stay out of government.Some people don't want to pass on a legacy of debt and high taxes to our children and grandchildren.Of course,if you don't care,vote to ratchet up the big spending once again.Be part of the "Me Generation".


freedom lover
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The current account surplus of $28 billion accrued from Paul Martin PRUDENCE.

Harper hasn't been in there long enough to do anything for which he could deserve accolades.

Yes, I know it simplifies your "thinking" to go with the C-word instead of the L-word, but try to cope with reality.




Dan
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Nick, you say if it wasn't for the Libs, the Cons wouldn't have a surplus to work with. How did the Libs get the cash to get to that point? I know they slashed and burned, but the biggest help was the GST. Who put that into play?


Mark_in_Ottawa
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It's great how the Cons keep giving in to the more intelligent and visionary Libs and stealing their policies. If we went to an election Harper would be defeated, so it's in his own best interest to make this budget moderate. Accusing the Libs of planning a deficit is rich - the last Conservative majority government was in deficit every year, had us on the brink of Third World status, and the Libs cleaned up the mess left in 1993 and rescued our economy, our jobs and our livelihood. Canada is a better place to be when the Libs are in office.


eskiefan
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DD, if the Conservatives are aiming to please voters--you're saying this is a bad thing? Hey, I'm a voter and I like being pleased by government policies! They are there to do what the people want and need. I'm also an urbanite and the cities really do need revival of the infrastructure and support for public transportation. Supporting these things is good for the whole country because it cuts down pollution and makes commercial and economic exchange for all regions more efficient. (I am also in favour of support for rural areas.)


N. Philipps
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The conservatives are living up to their name with prudent and frugal spending (even the minister's re-soled shoes). I am quite happy with this government so far and it's a change from the liberal debacle that ensued for so long. Dion would be unwise to force an election and would be worse off for it. NP


Dave in Surrey
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Good News...

First the Liberals write the motion for Afghanistan...

Now they are the ones writing the budget...

Only way for this country to continue its strong economy is by letting the Liberals run the country...

The Conservatives become more insignificant with each passing day!!! Time to give Dion his day in office so we can solve even more problems that the conservatives can't because of lack of ability and competence...


Don J
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Well, I just read another article today saying that while taxes are at an all time low in Canada, more than ever have to live in shelters.

I know the neo-con mindset doesn't care that some people need help; I know they think they have had some control over the accidental success of their own lives... and I hope some day they learn that lesson the hard way.

Now there's nothing, military spending, more than our whole budget, is not even mentioned... and things are going to get worse. Harper can only hope to trigger an election in the next few weeks so the idiotic people who are snowed by his stealing of Liberal policies are tricked into voting for him...

I hear he's making bathroom breaks a confidence motion.


Ian
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Would you people shut up about how PM Harper 'deserves' a majority? Things are working just fine as they are right now.
The only supposed benefit to a majority government is that the ruling party can remain unaccountable and run roughshod over the opposition for four years straight. We've seen the effects of this in the past in our country; we've seen the effects of this over the past 7 years in the United States. It's not pretty. It's not desirable.
Stick with the minority government, where everybody gets to have a say and co-operation is the order of the day.


lee
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Since when is a 13 billion dollar surplus a small surplus as described by Allan Eizinas?

I'm thinking this has got to be one of the largest surpluses ever recorded. Now if Allan was talking about next year perhaps he'd be on target in that the surplus will hopefully be smaller because the government will have put the vast majority of that money back into our pockets where it belongs.

Congrats to the government for ensuring that more that half of the surplus is going towards debt reduction. Paying off the debt which will lower our debt servicing costs is what will ensure we ride out the coming economic slow down bettr than our heavily in debt southern neighbours.


Rick Witkowski
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"DD
The headline is spot on. The Conservatives aim to please "voters." If you live in an area with few MPs, you're screwed."

That's the goal of ALL parties. If you don't please voters you don't get elected...how do you see that as sinister?

"Allan Eizinas
Time for an election. The Harperites have managed to create a small surplus – from a very large surplus.The longer they stay in the closer we are getting to a deficit!"

The highest Liberal surplus I believe was $17B in '03 not that much different. Besides there should be NO surpluses. That means we are over taxed, budgets should be BALANCED. The government is not a biz making a profit.

"Wise Wajid "looking at vote rich Ontario" what a surprise! the conservatives have been trying to worm their way into Ontario for years and the only people they'll fool are the rich, they're the only voters they've EVER catered to."

How are they 'worming'? Every party tries to appeal to voters. That's the point. Just because you prefer a different party doesn't make it ok for them, but not the Conservatives and there is not enough 'rich' to win with their votes alone.

"Jason
With a big surplus within this budget - it is time to cut the GST another percent or two."

The GST is a consumption tax which hits the wealthy with disposable income. The average tax payer is better served with reduced income taxes.









David
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Yep, you can thank Brian Mulroney and his GST for the last 10 budgetary surpluses. Without the GST the government would still be digging out of Trudeau's debt.


L
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The reason this government is good is because it is a minority. Harper has to be careful and play smart to get the oppositions on his side. Give him a majority government, and we might very much regret it. I believe it was the liberals who got this country out of the debt the last Conservatives government put us in.



Devon K.
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"If it wasn’t for the previous Liberal government the Conservatives would have no surplus to dish to large companies.
" - Nick

This is a good comment to comment on because it gets at the root of how we got the surplus and what should be done with it.

First off you have to go back to Trudeau to find the origin of the debt we are saddled with today. He started us down the road of large deficits and big, big government.

Second you have to look to Mulroney who did three big things: the GST, the war on Inflation, and Free Trade. Those three things provided the economic frame work for this country to move from low productivity to high productivity and thus increase the economic base and thus the revenue base.

Third you need to look at Paul Martin and his approach to balancing the books. He raised taxes, cut spending every where including health transfers to the provinces, knee capped the military, and left the national infrastructure to rot. So yes he did what was needed to get the situation under control.

Today we have a perfectly manageable debt given the size of our economy and despite slow downs in other parts of the world we aren't in any real danger. The budget still has, according to what we can guess, $13 billion in over all surplus so we aren't remotely close to deficit.

The Tories have started to restore some of the funding cuts from the Liberals and introduced massive tax cuts. That's part and parcel of their philosophy. Take what you need to run your show and give the rest back. The Liberals and more so the NDP want to take that surplus and spend it on Trudeau's vision of the nanny state.

As to the giving money to large companies that's overly simplistic. The Liberals and NDP are calling for direct support to large companies such as Forestry and the Automotive sector. The Tories have said until now that tax cuts are the way to go.

The only real difference between the Tories, Liberals, and NDP on this matter is when the cut the "large" company the cheque: today or tax day.

Ironically the tax incentives for places like the oil patch were Liberal creations.


GW
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I say pay down our debt. Get completely out of debt. Canada would be a model for the rest of the world. Our government has to think long term if we want our Great country to be the best. We also need to get unleashed from the U.S. economy which is headed for disaster.



Denise
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Wow, and to think it was only a year ago that the Liberals were screaming bloody murder that Canadians were grossly over-taxed and used the massive SURPLUS to prove it. So now that the Conservatives have lowered taxes to de-bloat the Canadian coffers of MY hard-earned money and YOUR hard-earned money, you're angry that that there's no surplus. What are you people looking for?!?


Earl Robert
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Why not wait until the budget is presented before commenting?


Edb
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We need a FLAT tax now !
Accountants and lawyers have been feeding off of us for too long.
Take a page from Huckabee's play book, that is if you ever realy believed in a true "common sense revolution" . You served us well under Harris (untill the party was hi-jacked by Liberals). Don't let us down now.


bunny
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I hope the surplus pays down our debt. We had tax cuts last budget, are there supposed to be more. ?Normally nobody cares about a budget, this is media driven, to see what move Dion will make
I can tell you, he won't make any move.Layton says he will disagree with the budget before he hears it.What powers he has.


JF
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This is a sham!.. with these surpluses it's obvious that we are paying too much tax. I say leave it in our pockets instead because I can spend it far better. And imagine the surpluses if govt. actually stopped wasting our money!
Go for a carbon tax instead provided it is used for carbon reduction programs, etc ONLY.. won't effect me much since I already drive little and have a small car anyway! Let the SUV drivers pay for their vanity.


EMG
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Although I have found the Conservative government to be ridiculously divisive and ideology driven, they should get credit where it is due. They have shown that they can compromise on Afghanist and and now on the budget. If they can continue this trend of consultation with others, the Harper government could actually earn the right to be called Canada's new government.


Al Wood
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I have to ask these questions. Why are all the tax payers in Canada responsibile for the infrastructure of our major cities? The municipal governments are the ones which encourage business and by default the people working in those businesses to locate in their community. So why aren't the businesses and the citizens of the cities paying for the additional infrastructure which is required to support them? Isn't this just poor management of the infrastructure by the municipal governments?


Nick
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If it wasn’t for the previous Liberal government the Conservatives would have no surplus to dish to large companies.

So think before voting for Harper.

Nick





ance
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This is the great thing about minority government...and why I hope we never have any other kind again.

Politicians, no matter what party, behave best when their masters (remember voters- that us!) have them on a short leash.

It's too risky for either side to do anything radical that does not reflect Canadian wishes.

It requires compromise and balance which means you get the best of ideas from all parties.

Let's keep those poll numbers weak and in turn keep these guys in Ottawa toeing the line and working for us for a change.



Jason
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With a big surplus within this budget - it is time to cut the GST another percent or two.


Wise Wajid
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"looking at vote rich Ontario" what a surprise! the conservatives have been trying to worm their way into Ontario for years and the only people they'll fool are the rich, they're the only voters they've EVER catered to. Fool Canada once, shame on you. Fool Canada twice, shame on me.


Allan Eizinas
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Time for an election.

The Harperites have managed to create a small surplus – from a very large surplus.

The longer they stay in the closer we are getting to a deficit!


Shawn Bull
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I look forward to a more "Conservative" budget than we have seen from Flaherty so far. One thing for certain, The Conservatives are doing an exceptional job managing Canada's finances.


Phineas
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Did the Conservatives say that they are forming the budget to attract urban voters?
Or is this some commentators oppinion emblazoned in a headline?
The media is treacherous, good for the PM for putting them in their place!


Minority governments rock
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Especially Tory minorities.
Not sure if this will sway urban voters who vote Liberal no matter what but cities win anyway.


Mike
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Coming to your town soon the new Monty Python. This government (yes including the opposition) is just one big joke. They haven't accomplished anything and now they want my approval.



John in London
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Sounds like another good budget from a good government.

I just wish there was some way to head to the polls so Canadians could ensure that we get to keep this magnificent government for atleast another 4 years.

Also it will give them some more power to bring on the changes Canada needs to become an even better country then it is today.

Drop the writ Harper and watch Canadian voters paint the map blue!!!!


chris
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there was never a chance the liberals would go to the polls without a plane, it was all just a show to scare the cpc into a mooshy budget.


Ricardo
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Hopefully we'll see some personal income tax cuts. If not, it's all good. At least this government has cut my tax. Unlike the Fiberals.


R P K
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When Canadians take a long, honest, intelligent, review of this Federal Minority Governments administration, since being elected, one will find a "Canadians Have Been Well Served" & deserve a "Majority Mandate to Govern".
The longer this minority government serves the nation the more real Canadians will realize their ability to govern.


DD
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The headline is spot on. The Conservatives aim to please "voters." If you live in an area with few MPs, you're screwed.

This government is transparent alright. Too bad so many can't see them for what they are.


Po
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Liberals can probably live with the budget... and since Canadains have a short memory, it would probably be beneficial for Dion to accept this Liberalized Conservative budget, wait until the economy takes a bit of a kicking due to world markets and the Conservative strategy... only then do you trigger an election and get a majority.


Leslie
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Now is not the time for election. Should one be called I will vote Conservatives. The Liberals have done too much damage over & over. Harper has a more realistic view of the world. The Liberals want votes not the people's interest.


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