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Charest rips into Harper government over environment

Quebec Premier Jean Charest, centre, makes his way through the Bell Center during the 2009 United Nations climate-change conference in Copenhagen, Denmark on Friday Dec. 18, 2009. (Sean Kilpatrick / THE CANADIAN PRESS)
Quebec Premier Jean Charest, centre, makes his way through the Bell Center during the 2009 United Nations climate-change conference in Copenhagen, Denmark on Friday Dec. 18, 2009. (Sean Kilpatrick / THE CANADIAN PRESS)

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Date: Tuesday Dec. 22, 2009 9:41 PM ET

MONTREAL — A war of words has erupted between Prime Minister Stephen Harper and the premier of Quebec, with Jean Charest tearing a strip off Ottawa's environmental performance.

In 25 years in politics, Charest says, he's never seen a federal government rely so heavily on the White House before taking a position on an issue, with Ottawa now saying it will model its climate policy on Washington's.

Charest says the Harper government has displayed hostility toward environmentalists.

And if there are any hard feelings after the Copenhagen climate summit, Charest says, it's the federal government's doing.

"They are totally responsible for what happened at Copenhagen," Charest said in an interview with Quebec's TVA network, only snippets of which aired Tuesday.

He made the remarks after Harper, in his own interview with TVA, suggested provincial governments were wrong to drag their internal squabbling onto the world stage at Copenhagen.

Quebec and Ontario argued at the international summit that they should not be made responsible for emissions from the oilsands.

Alberta Premier Ed Stelmach countered that the oilsands have enriched the rest of the country.

And the federal government declared that Canada's bargaining position was hardly being helped by the interprovincial slugfest being staged in the international arena.

Harper echoed that theme in his French-language year-end interview with TVA.

"These perspectives don't have any place on the international stage," Harper said.

"We can only have one voice at the negotiating table and it's only sovereign countries that can arrive at a consensus."

But Charest swung back. He said it was his duty as premier to represent his province's interests.

He also told TVA that the Harper government had demonstrated hostility toward environmentalists.

Charest cited an on-camera argument between Harper press secretary Dimitri Soudas and Canadian environmentalist Steven Guilbeault.

That spat featured Soudas accusing Guilbeault, with cameras rolling next to them, of being behind a spoof designed to embarrass the Canadian government. That accusation enraged Guilbeault, and American pranksters later claimed responsibility for the stunt.

"You saw it like I did," Charest told TVA.

"His press secretary attacking an environmentalist -- on the basis of false information."

As for the suggestion that the provinces should have kept Canada's dirty laundry in Canada, Charest was dismissive.

"Mr. Harper wanted me to say nothing at Copenhagen? Why? Why would I be silent at Copenhagen -- I'd say one thing in Quebec and the opposite thing there? Defending Quebec's position is not working against Canada."

In fact, several energy-consuming provinces fear they will be forced to make additional greenhouse-gas cuts to compensate for emissions growth in the oilsands.

They also fear that if Canada is seen as a laggard on climate change, the whole country could be slapped with punitive tariffs.

The position from Alberta is that the oilsands have pumped billions into other provinces' coffers and that should be taken into account while divvying up emissions targets.

As for Harper and Charest, theirs has been a rocky political marriage.

Harper's 2006 promise to fix an alleged fiscal imbalance and transfer money to the provinces was greeted warmly by Charest, and it helped the Tories get elected.

Charest's own fortunes subsequently rose -- with his once-dismal popularity surging as he extracted concessions from Ottawa, including recognition of a Quebecois nation.

But their relationship went south over time, as Harper took positions that were unpopular in Quebec on issues like arts funding, justice policy, and climate change.

Charest spoke out against those policies, perhaps winning him plaudits at home but losing him friends in Ottawa.

There had been signs in recent months, however, that their relationship had been improving.

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Anne Berube
said

I bet his words will be a lot softer when the next hands out from Ottawa is near. What an hypocrite he is. Quebec is selling asbestos to third world countries with no remorse at all. Go figure.


PBW
said

So, a Quebec premier has it in for the Federal government of Canada: since that is status quo, what makes it news? Will the rest of Canada now be required to pour even more billions of dollars into Quebec? Mr Charest, your province has the second largest population in the nation, yet you cannot get those people to generate the wealth to make Quebec a Have province. Time to put your money where your mouth is and do your own reductions, starting with Asbestos. And please, don`t ask other provinces to pay your bills.


Cam
said

Could this be the beginning of a Jean Charest for PM campaign.The Liberals would likely welcome him with open arms since carrying Quebec would return them to power.Careful Steve.This is not Danny Williams your messing with.


TVic
said

Good for Charest! It's about time that the provinces pushed back on the Harper gov't for thier 'follow the U.S. lead' policy on climate change. Either Harper doesn't recall that the Chretien gov't also saddled up to the Americans in setting Canadian targets and got burned when Bush & Congress refused to ratify Kyoto; or he is too busy sucking up to his political power base in Alberta; or he hasn't accepted that climate change is real; or all of the above. The safest thing for Canada to do would be to establish fair and equitable domestic targets and use those as the base for international negotiations. At least we would know where we stand when targets and timelines are offered up.


Robert J in Calgary
said

Liberal party members (national and provincial) nationwide appear to be very out of the loop and out of favor with the public these days. Can't speak for other provinces, but here in Alberta we're creating some new parties. We have the far far-right, wing-nut Wild Rose Alliance, that could frighten Donald Rumsfeld with their naive and absolutist pearl-necklace religion, and we have the new "Renew Alberta" party which is in the very early stages of creation. However, Albertans think for themselves and we're going to make profound changes to solve our problems. Too bad Canadians in general can't muster the nutcrackers to get more informed and involved in politics so we would have something more competent going on! If you have good environmental, business, artistic, creative, psychology, history, international, money, trade or other skills and interests, get involved. Interest groups abound. Go to the Meetup website and start your own group, but get it going! Naomi Wolf offers several books to help you become the potent activist. Many authors do. Canadian democracy RULES!


Tired of the whining
said

Conventional wisdom inside Quebec and inside the mainstream media is the Harper doesn't understand the Quebec people. Quite frankly, neither does the rest of the world. It's like anyone who might try understanding a spoiled child. Other than you know its spoiled, there is no explanation for it.The reality is Quebec is distinct, but, in a minority position within Canada and North America. Within the world for that matter. Until Quebec shows 'tolerance' for the rest of the civilized economically developed world, begins to appreciate its place (as a net consumer of wealth and not a producer of it), and relenquishes is misplaced moral superiority, it will not be easy for it to co-exist with the rest of the world.


Bryan
said

I'm not a big fan of Quebec but am very happy that Charest spoke out like this. Harper is saying that we should have one voice for the entire country but who's to say we agree with the garbage spewing from Harper and Prentice. Every Canadian I know disagrees with our governments stance on climate change. I hope other leaders speak out and let the world know that Canadians care about the environment.


Rob in Alberta
said

I love the Conservatives - I'm a red tory - and have to tell you that forgetting his tactical prowess, Harper has probably implemented and followed through on more that he has promised than any politician I can remember. That having been said I totally feel that the feds have done zero and demured to the US when it comes to environmental leadership.The good news? If the feds do nothing we have strong leadership in some of the provinces who gets that the time for action is now (read Mr. Campbell, McGuinty and Charest). We have a unique opportunity to diversify our economy into green industries to ease the transition away from fossil fuel dependence. These provinces will reap the rewards.


KJ in Kingston Ontario
said

It has been a long-term Canadian flaw to never be able to see issues from a NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE -- it is always WHAT'S IN THIS FOR ME.... And having the political system we have -- with the BQ and no regionally based elected senate to moderate provincial special interests means we can rarely if ever achieve national consensus. The growing importance of environmental issues makes this a ticking time bomb from the national unity perspective.


Rick
said

It baffles me how people think the issue of climate change is something where Canada or the Provinces should take a unilateral approach to their policies.Finally we have a Prime Minister that look to other countries for a harmonized approach to a problem. Because ultimately, Canada isn't going to fix climate change by ourselves, and we shouldn't be the only country in the world taking a hit to our economy while all other major emitters continue to pollute. We need a close partnership with the United States, and thats what we finally have.We finally have a Prime Minister that will work with the United States instead of one that unreasonably dictates what they should or should not do. Thats not how International Relations work.


grant smith
said

hello people is there realy a global warming or are there just a bunch of do gooder's out there that are trying to bring their own worth into the public eye tell them to come shovel snow in western canada in fact they can shovel it all over canada smell the snow not what you think people want to hear politician's need to be accountable if this idiot wants to put his accountablity on the the line he should tell us what the weather is going to be for the next 10 yrs or he just shut up and stop the bs that he is spouting


Bill in BC
said

I see Charest is at it again, playing himself as being the good guy against the evil federal government. It might play well in the separatist 'burbs but in the rest of Canada we see it for what it is: opportunitistic crap. Time for Quebec to grow up. Oh, and if they keep mouthing off, I wouldn't blame Alberta for shutting off the money tap. As Peter Lougheed said so many years ago during PETs NEP: "let the eastern bastards freeze int he dark".


mark in the East
said

Charest must be behind in the polls again, hey? Attack the federal bogeyman, oldest rick in the book.


Greg in the Hammer
said

@RayThis has nothing to do with the PM not knowing the people of Quebec. It has everything to do with Charest trying to score points at home. Canada has nothing to be ashamed of on environmental issues. The UNs own international report on environmental issues placed Canada 12th, Ahead of the UK, Germany, Denmark, the US, and most of the other developed nations at Copenhagen.I guess Quebec and Ontario don't need Alberta's transfer payment money.


Mr.Perfect
said

Let me get this straight.Quebec and Ontario beleive they shouldn't be penalized for green house gases produced in Alberta. Well I think that Alberta shouldn't be singled out as the cities of Montreal and Toronto produce more green house gases then the oil sands will. Charest and Dalton are acting like the pot calling the kettle black.Can you imagine the shape this country would be in if Dion or Iggy or Jack were or a combination of them were PM


Keith in B.C.
said

Charest is a hypocrite. Quebec is a chronic over-spender, that's why they constantly suck on federal transfer payments (from Alberta). A province as big and rich as Quebec has no business standing there with its hand out. When Quebec balances it own budget, refuses federal transfer payments, refuses Alberta oil and gas and replaces it with more eco-friendly energy sources, then maybe Charest might have the right to criticize others. Until then, Charest is no different than Chretien, who signed Kyoto and made everybody happy, then did NOTHING to reduce greenhouse gases. Hypocrites, both of them.


James
said

@Toupie Your precious oil sands are a major reason for climate change in the first place. Did you know that extracting oil from the oil sands results in a net energy loss? It takes more energy to extract the oil, than is contained in the oil itself. By the way, maybe you didn't know this, but your province's entire economy is built around oil. The oil WILL run out one day, and what will the people of Alberta do then? Beg for transfer payments from the rest of the country, that's what!

Trevor
said

How about we take the billions that Alberta sends to Quebec and use that to buy hot air credits, that should shut them up.Quebec burns the fuel and takes the profit but has the gall to whine about oil production.


mike
said

Harper says its not ok for the provinces to say they disagree with Ottawa on the World stage but it is ok for him to attack the opposition on the World stage (like he did in the Caribbean this fall). What a stooge.


I. Post
said

Harper and Alberta should terminate all transfer payments to Quebec and Ontario - afterall, it's dirty oilsands money. Just let these provinces get bailout by their own manufacturing industries.


alienated westerner
said

As long as you accept the transfer payments, it's your pollution too. As far as the US, we have to harmonize environmental plans for a lot of reasons including the prevention of trade barriers. Last, I work for misc. clients including a large carbon credit trading co. and have seen the biz from the inside. The whole thing is a giant shell game. Are you aware that the biggest way to maximize carbon credits is to use more herbicides and till the ground (such as has to be done for organic farming) less? I wish we had signed no deal at all, the science will shift after the ink has dried, just wait and see.


Robert Brise
said

Ok lets be fair!!!! I would like to suggest that Alberta cut down their emmisions that would be totally equal with the money that Alberta transfers to Quebec um, ( Equalization fund). In addition with that thought in mind,Quebec,& Ontario should begin using less energy that is equal to the shut down of the Oil sands , I mean lets be fair here!!!!!!


Ray
said

This is going to be very interesting to see how this plays out in Quebec. Especially for Harper. He just doesn't seem to have any understanding of the people of Quebec at all.


Craig in Edmonton
said

Way to ho Harper there goes your majority, you know the power is in Ontario and Quebec, 2010 sees Liberals take over, not happy with Harper right now


Michael (Ottawa)
said

Here we go again with the Quebec Premier once again crying "Wolf"... saying they got a lousy deal and that Canada should stop all they are doing and pay full attention to Quebec ..... next, look for the extortion demands to follow along with the "or else" clause. This is getting a little boring Quebec....


Saul Goodman
said

Its interesting that Charest is bashing Ottawa when his province operates one of the only Asbestos mines in the Western World. Yes, that dangerous insulate which Canada spends millions of dollars to remove from its own buildings is still a product that Quebec sells to foreign countries. I guess Quebec interests remain with their own financial gains and not business ethics.

TIRED
said

I am tired of the environmentalists, tired of the Quebec whining about everything and tired of these political stunts even making the news.


Toupie in Calgary
said

Charest rips Harper on environment>It's time for Stelmach to have Alberta withhold all tax and transfer payments to Ottawa. He's politically dead anyway so might as well do something to be remembered heroically. That includes all taxes from the oil sand extraction companies. Hold and place all in an escroc account. Once the rest of the country goes without oil dollars maybe they be a little more honest in this whole enviro-energy debate.


Jon in London ON
said

His press secretary attacking an environmentalist -- on the basis of false information. An environmentalist attacking the Canadian Government and all Canadians -- on the basis of false information. I see no difference.


Dean
said

I don't recall Charest making a stand or policy on climate change for his province. Isn't this a case of the pot calling the kettle black? Is Quebec still part of Canada?


vs75
said

Quebec can have a made in Quebec solution for an environment plan, and I can't see what makes Charest so angry with the Federal Government. I thought Quebec would use it's autonomy to do what they please and not knock the Federal for doing what they chose.


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