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Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff walks away from a media scrum in House of Commons in Ottawa, Ont., on Monday, Nov. 23, 2009. (Sean Kilpatrick / THE CANADIAN PRESS) Minister of Defence Peter MacKay speaks during question period in the House of Commons on Parliament Hill, in Ottawa, on Monday, Nov. 23, 2009. (Sean Kilpatrick / THE CANADIAN PRESS) A Canadian soldier takes custody of an Afghan prisoner in the Panjwaii district, May 2006. (Janis Mackey Frayer / CTV) Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff stands during question period in the House of Commons, Monday, Nov. 23, 2009.

Opposition MPs press Tories on torture allegations

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CTV National News: Roger Smith from Ottawa
The controversy over Afghan detainees and when Canada knew they were being tortured, sparked tough questions in the Commons. While question period got heated, the PM managed to stay out of the fray.
CTV News Channel: Col. (Ret'd) Michel Drapeau
A military expert says as a nation, we have the right to investigate the torture allegations, and the government has a right to defend itself. Until the issue to 'put to bed' the credibility of the federal government remains threatened.
CTV News Channel: Liberals blast Tories
Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff blasts the Conservative government over the detainee issue during question period. Harper was not in the House of Commons and MacKay took questions.
CTV National News: Todd Battis on the evidence
An Afghan human rights agency that monitored treatment of detainees on behalf of Canada released a report, documenting hundreds of cases of torture.
CTV News Channel: Murray Brewster, CP
Gen. Walt Natynczyk confirmed the stopping of transfers of Afghan detainees from Canadian to Afghan custody because of evidence of torture, but didn't say when, or how many times it occured.
CTV's Question Period: Defence Panel
Tory MP Laurie Hawn says the senior diplomat who made explosive allegations about detainee transfers, isn't credible. Opposition MPs Bob Rae and Jack Harris however say there may be something to his testimony and want an inquiry.
CTV's Question Period: The Globe's Graeme Smith
Journalist Graeme Smith broke the story of the detainee transfers in 2007. When asked whether Richard Colvin or the government is more credible, he said he doesn't know, but is looking at who has 'more reason to tell the truth.'

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Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff walks away from a media scrum in House of Commons in Ottawa, Ont., on Monday, Nov. 23, 2009. (Sean Kilpatrick / THE CANADIAN PRESS) Minister of Defence Peter MacKay speaks during question period in the House of Commons on Parliament Hill, in Ottawa, on Monday, Nov. 23, 2009. (Sean Kilpatrick / THE CANADIAN PRESS) A Canadian soldier takes custody of an Afghan prisoner in the Panjwaii district, May 2006. (Janis Mackey Frayer / CTV) Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff stands during question period in the House of Commons, Monday, Nov. 23, 2009.

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Date: Mon. Nov. 23 2009 6:49 PM ET

Opposition MPs are demanding to know what the government knew of Afghan detainee abuse allegations, focusing Monday on an Afghan report that says hundreds of prisoners were tortured by local intelligence officials.

During question period in the House of Commons, NDP Leader Jack Layton pointed to a document released in April by the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission (AIHRC) that says 398 prisoners were abused, mostly in 2006 and 2007.

Canada is not mentioned by name in the report, and it's unclear which NATO partners would have transferred the prisoners.

"How can the minister be so sure that absolutely none of them are relevant to the Canadian situation?" Layton said, referring to a warden at an Afghan prison who stated that prisoners were beaten with cables, their hands and legs tied.

Defence Minister Peter MacKay replied that Layton just assumed some of the prisoners may have been transferred by Canadians.

"That is the crux of the issue. We are asking for these allegations to be proven. There have been no proven allegations that we can refer to," MacKay said.

MacKay said the report is broad, and doesn't "apply to the numbers that were transferred" by Canadians.

"We stopped transferring when the agreement wasn't working," MacKay said, adding that the government has invested its resources in improving the transfer process.

Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff asked why the government halted prisoner transfers more than once, and whether the torture allegations were the cause. 

"Can't the government tell us the truth on this issue?" he asked.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper was not in the House to answer questions -- instead, he was at a photo opportunity with Canada's national men's lacrosse team.

Allegations of abuse resurfaced last week after Richard Colvin, a former senior diplomat in Afghanistan, said he told the government in writing that prisoners were likely tortured in 2006-2007 -- including many innocent people -- but officials told him to stop filing reports.

The government has brushed off his comments as not credible, despite the fact that he was the second-highest official in Afghanistan at the time, and continues to be employed by the government in Washington.

In the House, Liberal defence critic Ujjal Dosanjh said the accusations are a black eye on Canada, which has a reputation as a promoter of human rights.

"The actions of the Conservative government undermine our reputation abroad. They also undermine the work of our brave men and women in uniform," he said.

The New Democrats and Liberals continued to call for a public inquiry into the matter. Layton demanded MacKay table evidence that shows exactly what happened to prove Canada was not involved.

"I assume now then we'll get all the evidence about the visits that took place in those particular cases so we can see exactly what happened," Layton said. "Will the minister table them in this House?"

MacKay said the government made three decisions to stop transfers to the Afghans this year because the Afghan officials were "not living up to expectations." He explained the Afghans were not allowing Canada unannounced access to prisons so the transfers stopped until they were let in.

He said the government acted as soon it learned of "credible allegations."

In response to Colvin's accusations, a senior advisor on Afghanistan said he encouraged diplomatic officials to report their observations "freely and honestly" and meet the "highest standards of accuracy."

David Mulroney wrote a letter to the parliamentary committee investigating allegations of prisoner abuse, saying that Canada is at the forefront of detainee monitoring and knew that "the human rights situation in Afghanistan was cause for concern."

Mulroney, who is now Canada's ambassador to China, said he backs the work of Canadian civilian and military officials "to put in place a very robust system to assist Afghanistan in meeting its ... commitments for the humane treatment of detainees."

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Eric in Van
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All those blowhards desperately trying to nail the Conservatives on something, keep digging. Thinking that the Canadian public is really going to "punish" the conservatives over handing Afghan prisoners to the Afghan government is a mistake. The only people that are making a deal out of this are politicians. I am personally glad they'd hand them over. Better their responsibility than ours. We're not there to run prisons.


charlie
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Jack, my friend, why don't you table the evidence you have that Afghans WERE tortured (whatever that means). Even you can understand the problems with trying to proove a negative - oh, that's probably why you are taking this tack, isn't it? Now, you have obviously had the report ,which doesn't accuse Canada specifically of anything and which came out in April, for about six months - came out around the time you were supporting the Government against the Liberal/Bloc attempts to call no confidence, right? You remember, that was the vote taken when polls showed your party was going to get a kick in the a** if you went to the voters. It took you six months to get angry? Funny that the media wasn't all over that report. What am I missing here?


mike campbell
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so we had already been turning these POWS over for two plus years under the libs i wonder what they did ! how dare they use this as an attack point the cons took the only steps to fix the problem. in the two years of libs NOTHING so let us have this inquiery include the lib years , and we shall see who tryed to stop it and who did not care.


Michael
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War ... ever been to war?? Been shot at? Had to kill somebody?Until you have been there... lay low with the human rights business. There is little room for "human rights" in real war. Think our guys were accorded "human rights" by those who planted those IED's that killed the majority of our soldiers who were there trying to help the average Afghanistan resident live a better life free from oppression?I have no mercy for these Taliban murderers.They likly got what they deserved and if tortured it was because they were uncooperative to their own people interrogating them.This is more of the same Liberal political posturing....


Ryan
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Afghan Vet,No one is saying that Canadian soldiers tortured prisoners. It's the fact that we kept sending prisoners to Afghan jails when it was known that torturing was occurring. This is against Canadian and international law.Meg from Guelph,I wouldn't be so sure about blowing this one off. If it is determined "beyond a reasonable doubt" that the military/government was aware of torture in Afghan jails and were still sending prisoners there, then they committed a crime. It's as clear as that. And this would completely tarnish our international reputation as a human rights champion. Harper is going to China soon. How can he possibly criticize the Chinese for human rights abuses when we've committed them ourselves??So this will affect normal Canadians. Canadians will not be treated with the same respect as we are now. Americans were chided by the rest of the world for Gitmo and it held "worthless" terrorists


Greg in Cambridge
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I really doubt that any of this happened but in the minds of the Liberals and NDP and if it did, why is there a concern if the terrorists were inconvenienced.


Alysha Ont
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There is one solution to make sure that no Afghan prisoner is ever turned in to be tortured again. From here on, the Canadian soldiers should send each prisoner to Canada... to be housed exclusively in Iggy's home and Jack's home. This way,each of these opposition Leaders in Canada can make doubly sure that each prisoner is treated with the utmost respect and dignaty and ensure that they are well fed and taken care of unlike a lot of Canadian citizens who depend on food banks for food, are homeless and are also unemployed. But according to Jackie and Iggy, Canadian people don't deserve any better , only the Afghan prisoners do. Human Rights is gone when it comes to the tax paying Canadian people!


MMR
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I'd like to know what occurred when the Liberals were in power. Remember, they were in power when Canada went into Afghanistan, and were in power for five years during that time. Maybe they were the ones that started all of this? Maybe it was much worse during their time?


johnb44
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What crimes are worse than torture? Murder maybe. Kidnapping maybe. Child abuse...no because child abuse is torture. It shocks me when I read this comment page and see how many citizens of the realm seem to think it just might be okay to torture another human being. Would these same people torture somebody's pet or worse a child? In the name of decency give your collective heads a shake!!!!


norain
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does anyone even get the fact we are at war.bad things happen and will get worse before getting better.you have to start somewhere.all the liberals are trying to do is throw everyone off the tract of them being a scummy fraudulant self serving goverment.they bicker and pick like little kids instead of trying to fix things in this country.how much tax payers dollars must be sent on this issue.and really it dont even concern us.lets win the war any way we can. then it will be easier to fix the corruption and unjust things that take place during a war.by the way its a war when the courts and the police have lost control .


mike campbell
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it was the cons that forced the afgan gov to change in 2007 when they learned about some of this. in 2006 the lib had been running things too and the cons were just taking over so why are we not trying to find out what the LIBS knew!!


hunter
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That's Harper on the run, hiding, because he knows he's dirty.Run, but you can't hide.


Bill in BC
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I see the usual suspects are hard at it. Don't let reality stand in your way of trying to fan the flames of anti-Harperitism.


Nov 23 comment
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This is a very important issue that is not going away. Canada does not participate in torture in anyway. The harper conservatives and their neo-con supporters must understand this.


artubus
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The Liberals appear to be incapable of any ideas that focus on the well being of Canadians that live and work here in Canada. Such a waste of time and print continually focusing on offshore issues that appear to support the enemy.


John E
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From the posts here I gather many of you say you support torture. It sounds to me more like revenge. I would like to believe that most and I mean MOST Canadians do not support torture. If you support torture thumbs up if you do not thumbs down.


The Other Lowell in BC
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so according to the conservative supporters here, if the opposition parties ask questions they are merely playing games. Funny I thought that was the job of the opposition. It is true that we do not control how afghan authorities are going to treat prisoners. However that would put the burden on the Canadian solders to handle the prisoners themselves and not turn them over to an institution that practices torture. It goes against Canada's principles on human rights and does not serve us well in the international community. We can hardly criticize other countries on human rights.

Erin M - Ottawa
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Contrary to what the bleeding-hearts in the Liberals and NDP think, real Canadians don't care whether these "innocent" Afghans were really tortured. Considering how they've killed and maimed the fine soldiers of Canada and our allies, we would have no real problem if the torture allegations were actually true.


Georgian Bay Rick
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How dare the Liberals politicize this....it is war over there.........in case you didn't remember, there are 133 people who will never forget. Often in war, regretable and unforseeable things happen. Give it up, before you embarrass our country, our soldiers, and yourselves (well thats too late!)


Not Robin
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This is not about Canadian soldiers or their conduct in Afghanistan. It is about our own Government handing over detainees/prisoners to The Afghans because they did not want to be held acountable for interrogating and any backlash that may cause. The Government is our representation and there is not to be any underhanded or deviant behavior. We should not allow tarnishing of our own beliefs to further the political agenda of others. I may not be able to hold Afghans accountable but I can hold the Canadian Government accountable and I do Not give up that right.


John E
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My question: Does allen, j and Meg from Guelph ON really think that all detainees should be tortured.? If so, what type of torture do you guys prefer. Toe nails pulled out one-by-one, water boarding or just good old electric shock and beatings. Maybe you guys can start you own company and contract yourselves to the Afgan gov't. I'm sure you would get a kick out of watching Afgans suffer under torture. I hope I'm right, because I truly believe that Canadians do care and that they are not as heartless and cruel as you may think.


melissa
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"...hundreds of prisoners were tortured by local intelligence officials." Why would we believe Peter Mackay? His government is not the only stakeholder in this situation. Lets get all the stakeholders together: the torturers, the tortured (if they are alive and can still speak), the organizations working overseas, NATO, etc. Let's get them all together and see what happened. Maybe an international tribunal is necessary.


John E
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Prime Minister Stephen Harper was not in the House to answer questions -- instead, he was at a photo opportunity with Canada's national men's lacrosse team. I wonder if he dropped into Tim Horton's for a coffee after. Isn't that where he usually hides out when important national and internation issues are being considered and debated.


charlie
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The Opposition does NOT want an inquiry, no matter how much they call for one, and they know that the Government will not, in all probability, give in and call one. However, in the meanwhile, they can have a fine old time grandstanding on human rights and all the rest, while the Government is accused, without proof, of having something to hide. Looks like we are back to the "scary" Harper and the US puppet Harper - even though these were both discredited long ago. Ah, me, I am still looking for the soldiers on the street, with guns, which the Liberals told me they were not making up. Still looking dilligently but haven't spotted any yet. In the meanwhile, the human rights issue takes away from the news that the economy is picking up for another month. Perish the thought that the public should be allowed to notice that the economic initiative is showing more positive results.


Meg from Guelph ON
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The Opposition parties are once again showing how out of touch they are with Mainstream Canadians. Do they really think that the average person on the streets of this country really care about these Afghans? Let these bleeding-hearts continue with this issue, and see their poll numbers continue to drop!


J
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Who cares if they were tortured. Why is it Canada's fault? Shouldn'tt be Afghanistan's fault? Shouldn't we be saying... Um, Afghanistan shape up... Ohwait we did and prisoner torture is no longer going on... hmmmm... Any actual new here? If this is what the net election is going to be about, it will definitely have te lowest turnout ever.


allan
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1. Liberals were praying for a failed economy--didnt happen2. Liberals have been praying that people die from H1N1--didnt happen3. Now Liberals are trying to destroy the Canadian Armed Forces as they did before.---wont happen againLiberals are praying for disasters in Canada just to suck a few votes.Disgusting people


Richard in Ontario
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@solid grit. As a lib supporter you shouldn't even go to the subject of enquiries. Especially after the Gomery fiasco. Also the millions spent on the Mulroney/Schreiber nonsense. The Liberals and NDP wanted so bad to smear the Conservatives in all of these things and in the end it just cost us a whole pile of money for no return. The mention of Mike Harris and Ipperwash, might bring to mind McGuinty and Caledonia, where a couple now is suing the Provnce for 7 Million dollars due to the fact that this excuse for a Premier doesn't want to get involved since it might cost him votes. Now to this story, the Libs and NDP are now digging up things that were addressed in 2007 and still attempting to slag the Conservatives. They want to spend our tax dollars as if it was picked from trees. Enough already.


Afghan Vet
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More Liberal and NDPgames...Did they look back to see if their was any transfers during the first few years of the war, while the Libs were in power?? No...of course not, that would not be good for their game...Stop throwing mud in the faces of our troops. Our boys never mistreated any prisoners, and we certainly do not have the resources to change their whole culture within a few short years...I know, I tried.


Eric
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well the liberals are not calling an election, they should be working and making progress. Parliament should work. They should make good things.


dusty - ottawa
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This is the next paragragh in the Liberal saga of "HOW TO SURVIVE IN GOVERNMENT WHEN YOU STINK". The documents indicate over 300 prisoners were handed over to the Afghans, but it does not say how many came from Canadian Soldiers. Again Canada is being held resposible for all prisoners that were allegedely tortured. I agree with Mme. Dion's blog on Facebook, your party is doomed with you there in the lead. No points here IGGY because there are no witnesses, only the victims.


Doug Ontario
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We have the allegation that every prisoner turned over by Canada was tortured. Add to that a cover-up by all the Canadian military leadership, the diplomatic service, the PMO, and the defense department. If the Liberals, who so much want an issue, are going to keep up their wild screaming; and we must have a very costly public inquiry, then can we at least have one person who was knowingly turned over by Canada to be tortured.


Ryan P.
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Does The Liberal-NDP Coalition really think that the Canadian public is utterly stupid? Because everytime an MP, a critic or overpaid PR spokesperson speaks about this issue on their behalf they are essentially calling us that. Do they really believe that our government would openly allow for this type of behaviour to occur knowing full well the political fall-out it would have back home? Seriously....Harper and company are going to take a political loss for this type of easy to uncover activity? Stephane Dion's wife seems to be the only bright light left in that party.The only confirmed torture that is going on right now are the mythical statements coming from the mouthes of King Iggy and Jack. Enough is enough this is getting tiring.


Jim in Ontario
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How's Iggy's smear campaign working for him so far? ("wafergate", the "C" on the mock up cheque, the bodybag "fiasco", ad nauseum).Maybe the old "cocktail party charmer" (from Janine Krieber) should focus on some constructive alternative ideas?


Barb NB.
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All I can say to Iggy and Layton is if you want an inquiry call an election now and see what the people of Canada will tell ya, or else shut up and stop making a mountain out of a mole hill, Us Canadians think you two have lost it.

Ian in Oshawa
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This is not about how the Taliban animals treat others when they capture innocents and soldiers. This is about us, our nation, our military, our soldiers not being reduced to their debased and animalistic tactics. I understand that we often work with subpar intelligence and that perhaps torture might come up to scare up some information for captives. Is it worth it, however to discredit our image abroad as uncaring? Should those we wish to free, flee from us, run because they may end up in the torturer's chair because of a misunderstanding? Or should they not come to us with open arms, confident in our ability to protect them? We should be able to train and create allies who will not use such horrific and disgusting tactics. The Afghan army needs to be made to understand that torture is not alright. I may not agree with the mission there, but if we're going to be there, we should be sure that the prisoners we detain should be treated with due respect until their innocence is proven. The guilty should then be punished, but not with torture done by our allies. We are better than that. If there is some underlying truth to these allegations that our soldiers are turning over prisoners for torture, we need to get to the bottom of it. Not for political points, but for the moral collective of our country.

CMQ in NB
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What has our military to say about all of this? I would like to hear from them. They are the experts on war and what is involved in war. We all can have an opinion and listen to all that is going on but what goes on in a war? What takes place on the ground and what is our enemies' agenda and their means to achieve it? Let's not be so quick to jump all over someone before we know the facts. I have yet to hear that our top commanders feel something was wrong, went wrong or that if it did it was not handled well in an appropriate amount of time. I'd rather hear from the experts, those who serve us well than a bunch of blow hard politicians trying to score some points by looking humanitarian. To tell you the truth some of the behavior I have seen on the hill looks pretty barbaric too.


Eric
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So...Has there actually been any evidence of this yet? I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but when someone accuses you of something, it isn't your job to prove your innocence but rather their job to prove your guilt.Liberals should be the first ones to recognize that fact. It's the Conservatives that are usurping the rights of Canadians after all, remember? Surely the Liberals wouldn't make those claims then assume guilt before innocence with no hard proof of wrong-doing. Would they?


Smitherenzes
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People in my town are just up in arms over some terrorists allegedly being tortured by their countrymen. Ya, I'm losing sleep over it. zzzzzzzzz

André in Ontario
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When it comes to the truth this government wants nothing to do with it. Spin, spin spin. Deny, deny, deny. Why would you expect any difference from the past three years & other issues such as the recession.


Dean
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I wonder if the Taliban or any other terror group argue amongst themselves about what methods they use to get information. Only in Canada would we attack ourselves over what our people overseas have to do to protect themselves and us. We are turning into a complete joke on the world stage. All the Taliban et al have to do is wait for us to self-destruct under our own stupidity and our seeming need to be all things to all people. Let's be Canadians first. Why do we show the enemy divisiveness? Seems rather foolish to me.


SK Doctor
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More useless Liberal rhetoric and hypocrisy especially when one considers how many detainees were 'tortured' under their watch in the early days of the Canadian mission...


Maps
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If memory serves me correctly, this was also happening when the liberals were in power. Maybe the (not so) honourable opposition should tend to more pressing items such as becoming more involved in meaningful dialogue meant to improve Canada and Canadians insted of continually carping about the Conservatives. Such hypocrisy. Shame!!!


Solid Grit
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The Con's obviously know that a inquiry would destroy them. Look at what happened with Harris and Ipperwash.


Aaron from T.O.
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we are at WAR... not war games. If pressuring detainees for information will save Nato & Canadian lives...DO MORE OF IT. We are not dealing with Geneva Conventions conventional warfare here...we are dealing with a very organized group of terrorists who will use any barbaric means to kill & maim our soldiers there. Please take the Politics out of war and let the Military do their job. And yes IF waterboarding is necessary for a high value prisoner, than do it again & again, thats how we win Wars. As far as the Canadian Image, we can be very proud of our Men & Women serving the Military. All Canadians acknowledge that...we keep them in our prayers this holiday season.


Edb
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Regardless of party affiliations, one has to simply ask the question and answer HONESTLY...if the Taliban detainees who were handed over and allegedly tortured are presumably the same Taliban who stone women to death and throw acid in the face of 12 year old girls for the crime of attending school, do you actually CARE if there were tortured ? I DON’T! In fact, I kind of hope they were.


Jesse
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There is absolutely NO issue here. Canadian Soldiers, THEMSELVES, did NOT torture ANYONE and they, much less our Prime Minister, cannot be held responsible for what the 'local Afghan authorities' do to their OWN people, even if it is our people that hand over the detainee (whom, in most instances, were trying to kill our Soldiers at the time that they were captured). The Libs, the NDP, and the Bloc are looking for a misinformed 'field day' with this, something that tries to remind the Canadian public of the now-disbanded CAR in Somalia. Well, these are two COMPLETELY different circumstances and we will NOT be fooled! And, everyone who thinks that this is anyone's fault except the Afghan Government's, should be ashamed of themselves. PRO PATRIA!


MARG MM
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As this issue goes back to the days when the Liberals were in power, they must also share the blame. The Conservatives have, since being in power, been working on correcting the situation, and I'm sure do not condone torture of any sort. This is just more "huffing & puffing" from the Lberal/NDP, in order to discredit the Conservative Government, at a time when the Liberals especially, are not doing so well at the polls.


GTA
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Careful with the finger pointing Iffy, news is starting to come out that it was in fact your Liberal party that established the existing protocols.


Tim
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It seems that the opposition is more concerned about the welfare of the Taliban suspects themselves instead of what the Taliban are doing to the innocent people of Afghanistan.


condoguy
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Really Layton? You really have the nerve to question the actions of our soldiers over in Afghanistan? Throwing out allegations without documented proof? There wasn't a problem with you supporting the Conservatives when it meant possibly avoiding an election, but now because it doesn't suit your political agenda, the Conservatives are lying? You are saying that our soldiers are acting dishonorably over there? Our soldiers in Afghanistan are demonstrating a lot more honor than you are Sir. Shame!!

Ken - Calgary
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The CONservatives are clearly afraid of what an independant inquiry would reveal. Their hesitation in this matter (not to mention the perpetually changing story) says it all. If this party had any credibility whatsoever, they would welcome an inquiry to find out who, if anyone, is at fault. Usually people who deny or try to obstruct investigations are the ones who have something to hide. Simply saying "You have no proof" is NOT enough.

Jim Lad
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I honestly don't see a problem other than the usual mudslinging by the opposition. Looks to me like the government took action when necessary. Calling for an inquiry after hearing one witness? Isn't that what they did with the Schreiber nonsense? And all this at a time when the US is stuck with prisoners that nobody wants.We remember how they treated their prisoners too. We've seen the pictures. No better than Afghanistan.


Dan
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The #1 and #2 instructions in the taliban manual says that if you are caught, say that you were tortured. This was taken from the manual that was recently seized in england.


Conservative spin Machine
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Spin, spin, spin - it won't make this go away...see ya con(victs) in the opposition seats again soon!

Paul Vancouver Island
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The government's stand on the issue of detainee torture is to deny and say nothing hoping the issue of human dignity and rights will just go away.T he truth needs to be told and there needs to be a thorough non-biased investigation. Human rights is a Canadian value that needs to be upheld. If we don't stand for this value then why are we sending our kids over there?


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