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Prime Minister Stephen Harper shares a laugh with India's Prime Minister Mammohan Singh during a group photo with outreach leaders at the G8 summit in Hokkaida, Japan, Wednesday, July 9, 2008. (Tom Hanson / THE CANADIAN PRES) Prime Minister Stephen Harper shares a laugh with India's Prime Minister Mammohan Singh during a group photo with outreach leaders at the G8 summit in Hokkaida, Japan, Wednesday, July 9, 2008. (Tom Hanson / THE CANADIAN PRES) Prime Minister Stephen Harper shows China's President Hu Jintao the way prior to their bilateral meeting at the G8 summit in Hokkaido, Japan on Wednesday, July 9, 2008. (Tom Hanson / THE CANADIAN PRESS) U.S. President George W. Bush chats with Prime Minister Stephen Harper as they arrive for a group photo with outreach leaders at the G8 summit in Hokkaida, Japan, Wednesday, July 9, 2008. (Tom Hanson / THE CANADIAN PRESS)

G8 climate stance an 'important advance': PM

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Date: Wed. Jul. 9 2008 3:09 PM ET

Prime Minister Stephen Harper has left the G8 meetings in Japan heralding a declaration from the leaders of the world's industrialized nations to halve greenhouse gas emissions by 2050.

However, Harper also said in an afternoon news conference that developing countries would need to make some serious changes in order to help lower the level of greenhouse gas emissions in the air.

"By 2050, the developed world will probably represent no more than 20 per cent of emissions," he told reporters on Wednesday. "So, when we say we need participation by developing countries, this is not a philosophical position. This is a mathematical certainty.

"You can't get a 50 per cent cut from 20 per cent of emissions."

However, the G8 declaration leaves it up to individual countries to make their own emissions cuts.

The call to lower emissions got a significant boost when both Russia and the U.S. decided to endorse the long-term plan at the summit.

The hope was to find a consensus between emerging and leading countries over how to lower the harmful emissions. However, developing countries recoiled from the numerical targets set by the G8 leaders.

India, China, Mexico, Brazil and South Africa -who now call themselves the G5 - have all rejected the idea that they have a shared responsibility in reducing emissions by 50 per cent.

The G5 issued a statement urging G8 leaders to take more action.

"It is essential that developed countries take the lead in achieving ambitious and absolute greenhouse gas emissions reductions," the statement read.

However, Harper told reporters developing countries can help the cause by slowing the rate by which their emissions grow. He said they wouldn't necessarily have to cut down on their carbon output.

The American environment adviser to U.S. President George Bush told The Canadian Press that the G5 were being cautious.

"They want to be sure they can take steps that won't wreck their economy," said James Connaughton in an interview from Toyako, Japan. "We are not in complete convergence yet."

On Thursday, G8 members will be meeting with leaders from the emerging industrialized nations of South Africa, Mexico, Brazil, India and China.

Harper said real progress won't occur until those developing nations also pledge to cutting emissions -- a commitment he will likely be pushing on Thursday.

He pointed out that developing countries are most at risk from the effects of climate change and their contribution to global greenhouse emissions is growing rapidly with the expansion of their economies and populations.

Environmental critics were quick to shrug off the advancement, saying specific short-term and long-term targets need to be put in place before real change can happen.

Jeremy Hobbs, executive director of international agency Oxfam, said in a news release that the summit "did not deliver the breakthroughs so urgently needed."

"The consensus reached was at best shallow, especially on climate," he continued.

Stephane Dion, Canada's opposition leader, called the G8 leaders' declaration "a watered-down agreement" and said Harper "failed" Canadians by leading the climate change talks into the wrong direction.

"How will we get China and India to join the international fight against climate change if countries like Canada don't lead by example?" he said in a news release.

Antonio Hill, also of Oxfam, denounced the announcement as a stalling tactic.

"At this rate, by 2050 the world will be cooked and the G8 leaders will be long forgotten," he said.

The environment isn't the only pressing issue for G8 leaders. A debate over the world's weakening economy which has been depressed by soaring oil prices, food inflation and a credit crunch, will also take up much of the leaders' time.

This week the G8 leaders urged oil-rich countries to boost production to bring down the prices. They also urged countries that depend heavily on oil to improve their energy efficiency and to find alternate sources of fuel for the future.

With a report from The Canadian Press

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akeem
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Harper has achieved something significant for the movement to fight climate change - his progressive thinking in helping bring the U.S. to the table will be a much more effective approach than the Liberal scheme of wealth redistribution with no economic benefits.


Jimbo Jones
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Folks – Like Harper or not he is right on the money here. Global warming is a global issue and unless there is a global effort nothing will be gained. Let’s look at some facts:
1.)Canada contributes approx 2.5% of global GHG emissions
2.)Under the most ambitious plans our contribution will drop to approx 1.7%. That number could be smaller but only b/c the rate of GHG emissions coming from the third world are increasing.
3.) China is now the world’s largest emitter at 24% of global GHG – and climbing.
4.) A new coal fired plant is slated to open weekly in China for the foreseeable future. This will take their emissions GROWTH over the next ten year and make them larger than Canada’s total emissions. That is right folks Their increase will be greater than ou total.
5.)The much ballyhooed Kyoto Protocal is an economic agreement under which Global GHG are guaranteed to rise. It just allows the third world to continue to emit at no cost while we pay for our carbon use. The EU cleverly used data from 1990 to allow them great benefits under the protocol. That is why the US opted out and we never got serious about reaching 1990 targets.

Stop the rhetoric and look at the facts. The discussion can at least be one that provides info to people instead of slagging this person or that.

I want to stop global warming. I am a father and want my children and grand children to grow up in a healthy environment. But to think that Canada alone is going to make an ounce of difference on this alone is fool hardy.

The silliness that is Dion’s tax shift (code for 1970’s tax and spend liberalism) is a classic Liberal strategy of appealing to a large tent of people (name a group that is not getting a ‘tax break’ is his plan). It is 42 pages of dribble that no one in Canada should fall for. Read it and decide for yourself. I did.

We need global leadership on this to make a difference. Harper gets this.



Annette
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I have to agree that we all need to go green THAT IS THE G 5 also. They are putting just as much emissions in to the air ,if not more.So they will get our clean air while we get to breath their polluted air, and I don't think China will ever try to clean up there emissions.Steven Harper is trying his best to bring all Nations on board. NOw we have to work on the G5


alfred napper
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They have just condemmed the planet to a slow and violent death.How come the leaders on earth always wash there hands or pass the buck when they should be taking drastic action.Oh well i'm a baby boomer so i'll be quite dead by 2050,oh no i'll be buried in poluted soil lol.


my take on this
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As long as business people are running our countries and are allowed to continue to use slavery (poor wages, no benefits) in third world countries, jobs from North America will go to these third world countries. Greenhouse emissions will rise and the once prosperous nations of the world will possibly become the new underdeveloped countries of the world. The good news is the rich will be richer and their great great grandchildren will be able to start up slavery (poor wages, no benefits) in underdeveloped countries like Canada.


Joel
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Harpers stance is based on a well known logical fallacy, "tu quoque" which literally means "you too". The fallacy Harper is commiting is an attempt to justify a wrong action because someone else also does it. Obviously his argument is invalid not to mention stupid. The smart thing to do would be to become a world leader in green technology and then sell it to india and china while making enormous amounts of money. Think about it, we sit here and buy their crappy products wihtout thinking. Maybe it's time the have to buy something from us.


Climate Scientist
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This is a waste of time and money.

HadCRUT3, UAH and RSS datasets are some of the official ones, which track the mean global temperature of the earth.

These datasets are openly available to the public online and free to use. Just Google them or check out the website, Watts Up With That.

Mean global temperature peaked in 1998, flatlined since 2001 and in the past year has decreased. Yet, atmospheric CO2 levels have increased.

It seems that at least for the most recent 11 years, increasing CO2 is not tracking with temperature. CO2 has not overwhelmed natural processes during this period.

I would encourage everyone to read the study published in the journal Nature by Keenlyside et al. on May 1, 2008. Manmade global warming has been halted until 2015 due to natural variations in the world's climate, which will offset any possible anthropogenic warming.

The Earth's climate is expected to cool for the next decade not warm.

AGW is a dead theory.


Mikie
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OMG I just about choked on breakfast when I heard this news. I didn't know whether to throw up or laugh myself stupid. It sounded like the G8 comedy hour.

The routine sounds like this "We'll sit down and do next to nothing about all the toxins we're putting into our climate, wait for the 3rd world and then, in 2050 say 'OK, we're only making 20% of this mess.' We're heros!"

Tee hee. God, I'm doing alot of laughing today.


robert from edmonton
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When Edmonton starts getting Vancouver's weather in December through March, then and only then will I truly believe we are in a global climate disaster.


Boy who did Not cry wolf
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We who believe in Earth canNOT afford to set ourselves up for a future "Boy Who Cried Wolf" scenario.

DECREASING POLLUTION IS GOOD ... but let's be HONEST about it, rather than trying to hoodwink people into some FLAWED CO2-based "rationale".

Researchers STILL canNOT properly account for:
1) the Sun.
2) Clouds.

... and who on Earth would think the Sun & Clouds have anything to do with climate?

Fellow environmentalists: Dare to see nature through something other than CO2 lenses.


MRC
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"He pointed out that developing countries are most at risk from the effects of climate change and their contribution to global greenhouse emissions is growing rapidly with the expansion of their economies and populations.

'By 2050 the developed world will probably represent no more than 20 per cent of emissions. So when we say we need the participation of developing countries this is not a philosophical argument this is a mathematical certainty,' Harper said.

He added: 'In the developing world we may not be talking about cuts...we may be talking about slowing the growth in emissions.'"


Excellent wise choice of words from our Prime Minister. Now, did everyone read BETWEEN the lines?...sadly, probably not.
I, too, just cannot wait for the Beijing Olympics so that the world will see the poor athletes dealing with Chinese pollution, as if there isn't already enough stories about it lately.


Stand up for Canada!
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After read these comments above. I wonder if anyone of you actually care about Canada. Do anyone think that if China and USA won't be part of this saving-earth process and we SHOULDN'T. I think we should look at TAR SAND project in Alberta and do anyone have any idea how large this is? Tar SAND will be large enough as one whole STATE. That is how much land is going to be destoryed for oil that will be cosumed quickly once we pumped them into our cars and they are good for few days.

Imagine how you would feel if you stand in middle of it and all you see is destoryed land.

That is upsetting that we act as if it is ok but once it is done and we will regret it as Chinense does.

They destoryed a whole city for a dam and we dont think that is ok so i think same goes for our Tar Sand.

Climate change or not - our dirty habit need to be stopped in few years rather in 50 years.

Better world - we can create it by starting now before it is too late.


Ted in Ottawa
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We will all look back on these days and laugh in 10 to 20 years. Co2 is only CO2 is only 0.033% of the make up of our atmosphere and we are worried about an increase? This is the biggest consperiacy of our life time.
The UN wants everyone on earth to enjoy the same standard of living no matter how good or bad it is. This is a way of creating a single world government that will do everyone in.



Mike Webster
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Congratulations Mr. Harper for once again making us proud by taking a common sense, principled stand on this issue. Most Canadians are smart enough to see that wrecking our economy to cut back on GHG emmissions while the really big polluters like China dramatically increase theirs is just plain dumb. The usual lib-left and enviro-radicals will scream and wail but they do that no matter what you do so pay them no attention.


GW
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Why are so many people so shocked and outraged that these leaders aren’t embracing the Climate Change disaster? First off they can only do what their electorate wants them to do. Like they’re going to drop everything and potentially bankrupt their administrations and possibly their counties in an attempt to stop some disaster may happen 50 years from now for which they may or may not be able to impact with this sacrifice. Anyone who buys in the idea that reducing CO2 emissions can be done without a huge economic sacrifice is dreaming and has bought into the exaggerations of Al Gore.

Make no mistake, in our democratic systems the economy rules and only an actual disaster and not just the threat of one is going to change this priority. One day the world may be run by a world government dictatorship that can just force everyone to make changes but for now economic stability and growth rules.



global warming
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Good, hopefully the science will be settled before we lose all our jobs to countries without Carbon taxes for no reason. I, however, refuse to believe CO2 is a pollutant. Guess what else acts like a so-called "GHG"? WATER VAPOUR. And it holds a lot more heat that CO2. So what David Suzuki and the like; is water a pollutant? What a grim outlook....


Larry
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For the first time a Prime Minister of Canada has put Canada in the positive light of the world stage.
It has taken industrialized countries over 150 years to put green house gases into our atmosphere and they did it with such ease. To reverse this will not be as easy. It will not happen over night as many liberal party members are calling on the conservatives to do.
Our present civilization has been built on these carbon gases.
Mr. Harper leadership has made it possible to have all G8 nations in agreement. The liberals never even had a plan on paper that would help clean the environment and at the same time save the human race.
We are at at a time when we have to take three steps back and look where we are headed. If we are to survive another three generation then we must find an alternative to oil. And I'm sure that there is the technologies out there to do just that, but all governments have to work together as well as all nations.
Your doing a better job than those before you Mr. Harper.


Paul in BC
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I'm not sure why Baird and Harper just don't come clean with Canadians and say: "We are doing nothing to clean up the environment, we plan to do nothing, so sad, too bad." At least then they'd be honest.

We're tired of the same old Conservative marketing spin pretending they are taking action on the environment. Their basic assumption is the electorate is ignorant and will buy into their spin, sorry we are a little brighter than you think.

They have no right to lecture the developing world when they show no action themselves.


Rick in N.B.
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I don't get it. If the problem is global warming. Then why are we having G8 summits that do nothing but spew hot air for days at a time. I think G8 meetings have the same impact as a snowFLAKE hitting a bowling ball. G8 is a pacification tool for failing leaders. Maybe you have noticed a negitive slant in this comment but it irks me that anyone can believe the BS that elected people
of the world feed us. G8 = Propaganda for the masses. If its broke fix it, simple !


Doug BC
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Anyone who thinks getting the USA and Russia on board is not important is really missing the point.It is a GLOBAL project.There is NOTHING Canada can do to lower GLOBAL GHG levels without similar efforts in ALL of the big emitting nations.
We're 30 million people here.Russia and the USA are 600 million people.Getting them on board will have more of an impact than shutting Canada down entirely.But even that will have minimal effect if the 2.5 billion people in Asia don't come on board.
Developing nations or not,the GHG's and pollutants are not restrained by borders.
If we have to raise money to pay for this change,simply add big duties to products we import from countries like China and Mexico or any other country that doesn't do it's share.
China has enough money for a massive military expansion and a space program.It's time for their excuses to be put top rest.
And finally,those who think 2050 is to long to wait are going to be disappointed no matter what deal is signed.It IS GOING TO TAKE DECADES to do this no matter who governs any of this planet.


C.A
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A bogus commitment 40 years down the road with no teeth designed to spin perception and stop people complaining about the total lack of action from our governments. The arctic may be free of ice this summer not 40 years from now. Time for Harper and Company to go.


DAvid
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At the risk of being the lone voice in the wilderness...........

There is absolutely no proof that greenhouse gas emissions are responsible for global warming.

I support moving our economy away from fossil fuels for practical reasons : the stuff is running out. The price change alone will accomplish that.

Carbon taxes, banning cars, etc. is all just the sound of mooing from the herd, as it is being rounded up.

People should read more, and believe less.


IT Manager in Calgary
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Congratulations to the PM for, once again, disappointing the overwhelming majority of Canadians who want REAL action on climate change, and for taking the opportunity to once again get his photo op in the media where he can throw around empty BS like "This is an important advance", which his supporters will just swallow right up. Bravo Harper. I wonder when the TRUTH will actually come from this PMs mouth?


John
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So in 2050 80% of GHGs will spew from what are today's developing countries? Uh-huh.

And who is responsible for 100% of the current state of the world? The developed world.

Sure China and other Asian nations produce tonnes of toxins on our behalf, but we are the ones benefiting from consumption of 'cheap and plentiful' imports.

Of course the developing world is looking to us for leadership and initiative. We did not hesitate when it came to polluting our precious and only planet, and now Harper has the nerve to put the onus on the third world for the cleanup.

Sheesh! Talk about blaming the victims. Harper says those doing nothing should refrain from criticism. Well, he should heed his own advice.

As a Canadian I am offended and embarrassed by Harper's shameless arrogance.


Brent Ewasiuk in Nagoya, Japan
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Why does everyone continue to bash Harper and Canada in general regarding this issue? Have you lived outside of Canada? Have you been to China? India? Japan for that matter where the unrealistic Kyoto Accord was drafted? Instead of criticizing, let's recognize that there finally seems to be consensus amongst the world leaders. This is a significant achievement. I am a Canadian who lives in Japan and travels throughout Asia, the U.S. and Europe for work. Every time I come back to Canada I marvel at how blue the sky is and how clean the air is to breathe. Can Canada do more? Of course it can but not at the expense of destroying its economy, hence the reason that the US would not sign the original Kyoto Accord. Living abroad I meet people from around the world and they are all concerned about the environment. However, the world cannot fix this problem without the commitment of everyone in the G8 along with China, India, Brazil and Mexico. My fellow Canadians who have only lived in Canada would clearly realize this if you lived abroad. This threat to the world requires consensus of all the members of the G8 first as they possess the resources, technology and best hope for the world to fix this problem. Lets appreciate that we finally have achieved this goal and now support our governments and keep them accountable for some real change. Until now excuses have been available, but with the G8 finally agreeing to address this issue we can now hold them truly accountable. Finally, the true solution to this problem largely rests with us all as individuals. Are you doing everything that you can do to help the environment? If your answer is no then maybe you should be harder on yourself than you are on our government.


Dan
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I am sick and tried of all of the so called "friends of earth". All they do is look for head lines. Look, if you say that it is OK for a country, - developed or not to continue to create CHG then you are no "friend of the earth". GHGs are GHGs no matter who creates them. So get off the high horse and start attacking all countries, (developed or not) and then I will see through the head lines. This G8 agreement is a big step forward. If you think it is as simple as one single country making a change then you are wrong.


Jeebus
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Mr Harper is completly right! You have my vote.
Developing nations need to help. They have no factory emission standards, they cook on open fires, drive vehicles that would be taken off the roads in North America or Europe.
They need technology to help improve their emissions.
Yes Canadian can improve but we have been making an effort for over 50 years with auto emissions and air quality programs.


Terry
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I know, let's raise fuel costs to $5/litre, ban vehicle use for recreation, force the population into small condos within walking distance of our jobs and return all recreation land to it's natural state!

Get real people, Canada contributes 2% to global greenhous gasses.
If we turned the taps off tomorrow and froze in the dark, we'd have as much impact as the proverbial spit in the ocean!

Whining about what we did 100 years ago accomplishes nothing.
If India and China make no attempt to control their frenzied expansion of crude consumption, we all fry!

Go to Beijing after they've rationed car use for the olympics and see if you can breathe without chewing your air first!

Harper's got it exactly right.


Al from Calgary
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To All The Zealots:
How much is this is for the enviroment and how much is anti Bush. If Bush was to cur US emissions by 75% per cent and Harper followed suit they would all be screaming at him for being Bush light and ruining our economy by following the US. These politions also have children & grandchildren and saying they don't care because they won't be around in 42 years is just like saying the enviromentlists don't care what kind of economy they leave in 42 yrs because they won't be around. Also when the Gore's & Suzuikis of the world start walking the talk then maybe I might believe a fraction of what they say, I'm sure if its as catastrophic as they say they would have moved out of their mansions and into some small innner city highrise to cut back on their emissions, its a hoax, they know it and are lioning their pockets. If its as bad as they say we should cut immigration immediately as every new resident produces ghg. then what would all these libs say, that their emissions are miniscule just like Canada's and we can't stop immigration. One last thing if Harper brought in this GST2 tax they would all be screaming that it does nothing to cut emissions and would just hurt the poor and elderly but since its the libs its the greatest thing since sliced bread.


Nicole
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I applaud this common sense approach. How does decimating our economies help generate funds for research and development of clean technology? Taxing us to death and shutting down our businesses only to have China and India pick up the slack with their total disregard for air quality and water safety is folly. Harper is truly a leader, and so far thankfully we have been spared by the pie in the sky, head in the clouds clueless Dion. Wake up people - with all money going to taxes companies won't have a dime to spare to clean up. In the meantime, who will pay for health care, education etc - us, but with jobs dropping off and EI and welfare ballooning how long do you think these social programs can last? Oh, but the good news, our measley 2% GHG emissions will drop. Joy.


John G
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This unfortunately is an issue that the G8 is still tap-dancing around. What an insult to have the US and Canadian heads-of-state planting trees.
The ones who created this problem of greenhouse gases should bare the brunt of the emmission cuts (ie, the developed countries). We created the beast that will evenually consume us all, so we need to wake up and put the future of our child far, far, far ahead of our pocketbook and polictical posturing. This is one issue that can't wait fifty years to correct. It's time for the G8 to show real leadership instead of photo opportunities and sound bites.


Trent
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Once again Mr Harper has put Canada in the international media and makes Canada proud, unlike the last string of Prime Ministers we have had. Yes 2050 is a long way off, but the naysayers must realize that this process is something that can not be done overnight or without China and India. If the G8 leaders took an tough stance and used a 2 year timeline to curb emissions for example, the polluting industries would leave the G8 countries and head to China and India and not change their polluting ways. How would this benefit Canadians or the environment? Many Canadian jobs would be lost, World pollution rates would remain the same and the products those industries produce would be more expensive to Canadians due to the shipping costs.
People use your heads and think about these things, without full participation, global pollution rates will not be reduced because of one country reducing their carbon footprint!


Cold in Canada
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Wake up you bunch of global warming zealots.
The earth is cooling, last year alone .75 degrees. Warming has not happened for 5 years.
AND CO2 has absolutely nothing to do with our warming.
Some times it takes more courage to do nothing!!
When you drop a wheel off the side of the pavement, do yopu jerk the wheel??


Mike From Ottawa
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Any one who thinks that by cutting our emmisions and hurtintg our economy (Like Dions plan for ex) will make China and India follow (Who have collectively over 2 BILLION people compared to our 37 million) must not be very smart. This problem of emmisions is much more complicated than the average Canadian can understand. If you think about world economic factors, our dependancy on oil (Don't tell me you don't drive or use elctricity) and hundreds of other factors you will understand why Canada leading first will never ever ever work and it's sounds good and gives phony envoronmentalist the warm fuzzys so they can sleep at night thinking they are doing something better for the World but in REALITY they don't even began to understand and only think with a very narrow mind. Come on people, if Canada MAGICALLY completely cut out all of our emmisions do you really think China, USA, India and all other countries would say, WOW LOOK AT Canada, their economy is in shambles and their people are in Chaos, the west economy has crashed and all Ontarians walk every where they go, I want a life like that too, lets copy Canada!! What a load. People need to think of the BIG picture including all repercusions before jumping on the kyoto bandwagon to make themselves feel better as a person. They also need to be REALISTIC with thier ideas as well, not much of this is happeneing with granola crunching enviro wannabes in Canada. If you don't believe me you'll see just how much actual difference BC's Carbon tax makes in emmisions and how quickly BC's liberals get booted next election.. wait and see time will tell the truth. I'm not denying action must be taken, I'm just realistic in the fact that we as People in this world are reactionists and not preventionists, we have always been like this and always will be..... no major change will happen collectively as a world until poeple are dying in the masses including rich leaders as well.


David From Ontario
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No matter how much we cut our emissions and care for the enviroment, we are screwed. We can't turn back the hands on the clock no matter how hard we try. We made this mess and having all the activists and Susuki's telling us how to like is only going to make it slow down such a tiny little bit. We will continue to live the way we want to. I recycle as much as I can, try to conserve as much as I can, but I see my neighbours making up for my actions by doing the opposite. When will people realize that someone killed mother nature a long time ago?


Greg from Kitchener
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I am proud of Mr Harper and how he is putting Canada First! To all the liberal complainers on here, stop arguing for the sake of arguing, if all G8 leaders are on the same page, its a step forward, no matter what you say.



Ahmed (Ottawa)
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It is so convenient for some to bash the Prime Minister on environmental issues when the whole world is confused due to environmental spin doctors yet the peanut gallery from the other side of the house has LITERALLY NOTHING to offer Canadians but more broad based taxation with their 'green shift' policies and more pointless political rhetoric.

Harper is a leader in the global environmental push, Dion however is just a wannabe Buzz Lightyear space cadet.




David in Que.
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When it comes to the environment this PM and his 2 failed say what I tell you to ministers have no,zero,zilch credibility.So close the yap Steven Harper.This is an absolute sham of an anouncement from the G8 and is nothing to be boasting about.Could they have been more non commital without saying we ain't doing nothing.


Jay
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Seriously. 2050. 42 years from now. So, basically the people who set this up and all the reponsibility that comes with it are going to pass it on like usual. 42 years. The people that made this deal aren't even going to be alive, so what would they care if it doesn't happen. 42 years from now. 42. Way to get that ball rolling gentlemen.


Roger T
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Again, if the readers are educated enough to realize that China and other developing countries are not part of the G8 group club memebers which means that they are NOT obligated to do anything if they don't want to. But China has already taken steps on it's own even though it's not part of the G8 group. The G8 members wrote the policies which pretains to the members and now they want other outside the group to take on responsibilities which they themselves CANNOT handle. The G8 leaders should grow up and face the fact that thy've failed and stop placing blames and shifting or manipulating policies to divert shame and failure. Only when the developing countries are given membership rights should they be fully involved. Til than the world turns and nothing gets done if the G8 keeps talking and showcasing their fake smiles and Hollywood scripted speeches and enjoying their lavish conferences.


Dean
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We should get ourselves in good shape and do what we can before we preach to other nations. However, I still believe that this is just vote getting politics and a general waste of time if China and India don't get on board.


No more thug tactics please (and thank-you)
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People who disagree with global warming theory are often pounced upon and called "deniers". Liberal environmentalists cannot match the real science being done to refute their false claims and resort to bully tactics in attempts to silence dissent. By using "thug tactics", these "environmentalists" show how much they really "care".


Acroyear
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The real trick, in my humble opinion, is this:

Find a way for big business, ANY big business, to make money on environmentally safe energy alternatives.

When the internal combustion engine began, everybody was terrified of gasoline because it's actually a liquid explosive. Steam was the only way to go.

Then, slowly, the infrastructure got put in place and bingo... gas was suddenly okay, and we all got used to handling it, despite the fact it can still be plenty dangerous.

If the government were to help invest in either hydrogen or electrical recharging infrastructures, or would give huge tax breaks to the oil industry or for starting a whole new industry, then a good deal of carbon emissiions from cars would go away, and rather quickly.

I personally think the hydrogen is more pratical in the end... it's ease of convienence for "refueling" & better range will make it more palatible, even though electric vehicle can have great performance.

It really is all about the almighty dollar folks, no matter how much we might love the earth, THEY control the money.

The sooner we give THEM a reason to switch the sooner the switch will happen.


Bryan
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Our government is useless when it comes to preventing climate change. How long will they stall before actually accomplishing something? We should be a world leader in reducing greenhouse gas emissions. Of course other countries aren't going to sign up for it if our gvt isn't doing anything about it either.


Dr. Carter McKeague
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China with 1.3 billion people should be strongly encouraged to clean up their country. They and India with 1.3 billion people their huge are obviously greater polluters than Canada. I work in Asia and the pollution here is just terrible compared to Canada. The standards for pollution control are horrible. If anyone wants to complain about pollution in canada they should come to Asia and get a shock of their lives.


Earl Robert
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Canada, the United States, Japan, Russia, Britain, Italy, Germany and France all agreed to cutting emissions that cause global warming.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel called it a "major step forward" from the climate deal reached in Germany last year. Progress with Russia is encouraging and once the G8 gets a committment from South Africa, Mexico, Brazil, India and China real progress will occur. I'm very pleased with the leadership of Prime Minister Harper.





Josh in Ontario
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Lets just hope China and India recognize the seriousness of the problem of GHG emissions. If in 2050, the West will only account for 20% of world emissions, than that is something remarkable. We can no longer deny the need to garner support for this cause in the 3rd world. I hope the lefties can at least appreciate that Harper has been fairly consistent on his approach to GHGs.


DW
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This is all talk. Until the government starts to make transit more accessible and inexpensive then why would any one take the LRT, Sky Train Etc?




Mark
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What Harper said isn't news, but a G8 leader having the cahunas to say it is.

Way to go PM!


Victor in Oak
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Yo Harper,
More bafflegab from you again today!! Fact - industrialized countries - mainly the U.S. - have enjoyed unbridled increases in CO2 emissions for all of the last century and put the planet in the sad condition that it is in today! So now you come along and try to point the finger at someone else as needing to clean up their act. Nice try, but I don't buy your argument! More hot air from someone who promised to do better than his predecessors - shameful!!


sashsa
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"world's developing nations will need to do most of the heavy lifting to lower greenhouse gas emissions"

what sort of statement is this.. this is but a cop out from our own government..

we expect poor nations to foot the bill for our expenditures.. we as developed nation created the the mess but we are not willing to reduce our emissions first ???.. it placed on the backs of poor nations developing nations..
before we speak and tell poor nation you have to cut your emissions, we should be cutting ours.. these poor nation already have higher emission standards then us already to the most part... as for example; china and India have billions of people. and china just surpassed the US in it emissions. a country that has that has maybe a 1/5 it population.. the US consumes 25% of all the fuel in the world. but Europe a area with more development and people does not even consume 1/2 that amount..

basically we are saying" we want to keep our standard of living. but you as poor countries you have live in poverty so as we can continue to live the way we want" and not even try to reduce our emissions.. heck if every in North America household spent about 3000-5000 dollar they could reduce thier energy consumption by 1/2 . which in china pretty much every new home in china ( and europe and parts south america have the same policy) has to be built with -- solar evacuated water heater to produce 90% of thier hot water needs

and what does harper not get 2050 if to late. 2030 is already too late.. we have to lower our emissions now..


Lisa
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Steve, you're such an idiot! Let's get our own backyard in shape before we start preaching to underdeveloped nations, shall we. Sheesh.


Mike
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Actually Mr. Harper, every nation, including lesser developed nations, must cut greenhouse gasses or we'll have the same flop as the Kyoto Accord, in which you had major powers like the US and China grumbling that it is unfair, thus creating a situation where only half of the countries follow the plan, while the other half disregards it totally (which, if memory serves me correctly, Mr. Harper himself disregarded Kyoto for much the same reason).

Personally, I just love how the G8 leaders decide to halve emissions by 2050 - they'll all be dead and buried by the time that date rolls around, and all of the hard, dirty work, like standing up to the oil companies, enforcing pollution targets, etc, will have to be done by their successors. That's what I call 'principled leadership.'


Winnipeger
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The developing nations are having trouble feeding people due to the policies of Harper and Bush. They have both reduced food supply and managed to increase the price of gasoline with their "ethanol" schemes. Canadian taxpayers are subsidizing the ethanol industry thanks to Harper with billions of our tax dollars.


Pass the buck, Harper
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The World Wildlife Foundation ranked Canada as second to last in addressing global warming amongst all the G8 countries. Only the USA ranked lower.

why does Harper even talk about this at all. This guy has NO place to preach on this issue. He needs to shut his mouth and get on with fluffing up his supporters' claims that there is nothing wrong in the world with regards to the environment and that nothing humanity is doing is having any negative effect on the climate of the world. Because it's this belief that keeps people like him and Bush in control, because that's what right wing supporters ardently believe.

Yo Harper - shut up and get back to being a good little Bush-bot.




Doug
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It would help if we showed leadership and took action. This government seems to be very good at telling others what to do. We need to see action over words. The enviroment is another example of the Harper government's record of their actions not matching the "speak."


Eric in China
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...and one more thing. I don't understand why environmentalism is always associated with socialism. The two problems are indepent! Pollution should be calculated by amount per country divided by country area NOT per capita. Doing it any other way (per capita) is simply unscientific and is a promotion of equalization among the rich and developing countries. Why would anyone support this? Its pretty obvious the so-called environmentalists are actually socialists/communists. If they were really environmentalists they would look at the facts only and pollution per geographic area.


JoeC
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Here in Ontario, Electric Low-Speed Vehicles, such as the all-Canadian ZENN LSV, are illegal on city streets, but embraced by the United States. These electric vehicles have helped reduce emissions on U.S. city streets, especially in California. Imagine if the media took hold of this story, about an Ontario Car company who can't sell their vehicles in Ontario, but sells all of their vehicles to the United States. It sure would be a slap in the face to all of these Canadian politicians preaching about reducing emissions.


Eric in China
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Finally, some common sense. China is the world's biggest polluter. I can't wait for the Olympics so everyone can see this with their own eyes


don rumford
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we will just shift more manufacturing jobs to china and india if we are faced with more regulations and carbon taxes.


kevin Aubie
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Bush Jr will be gone after the next election, so who cares what he thinks or what his excuses are to continue expanding the tar sands.


David fm NS
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If it takes 5 more years to bring China and India onboard to the point where they agree to reduce emissions it will still be much more effective to pursue this than it would be to start drastic reductions in Canada today.


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