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Date: Mon. Oct. 22 2007 5:17 PM ET
The soaring Canadian dollar ended a volatile day of trading 1.55 cents down, after the Bank of Canada's governor David Dodge said over the weekend the currency's recent surge was "abnormally quick."
The dollar closed at US$1.02 on Monday, following a Friday close of US$1.0355. At one point, it had plunged as much as 1.77 US cents.
The dollar has gained 21 per cent of its value since the beginning of 2007, with most of the movement occurring since August.
Dodge told an audience of international bankers in Washington on Sunday that "the recent round of appreciation has been abnormally quick and doesn't seem to be related to the domestic factors, which would normally lead to that sort of appreciation.''
BNN's Michael Kane said Dodge was jawboning with his comments.
"It's just a little bit of talk that will take some of the steam out of the marketplace," Kane said Monday.
Meanwhile, Finance Minister Jim Flaherty will meet the Retail Council of Canada and representatives from individual retailers, such as Wal-Mart Canada and Hudson's Bay Co., in Ottawa on Tuesday.
He told CTV's Question Period on Sunday that he will pressure them to lower prices despite the advantages of a high dollar.
Diane Brisebois, president and CEO of the Retail Council of Canada, rebuked claims that retailers are keeping prices up to make more money.
She said in a statement to retailers that she will use the meeting with Flaherty to ensure the retail industry "is not used as a political pawn."
"The reality is that in most cases, retailers have not been able to reduce their prices because their merchandise costs have not declined," Brisebois said in a statement last week. "Canadian manufacturers, importers and wholesalers, in most cases, have retained the benefits of the appreciation of the dollar and have not passed the savings on to retailers and their customers."
She said the Retail Council of Canada also requested meetings with the Canadian Manufacturers & Exporters and Canadian Importers Association to demand that they acknowledge their role in the prices that customers pay.
Flaherty also told CTV's Question Period that the weakened U.S. dollar and credit crunch in the housing sector has sparked North American recession fears and forced Canada to support its neighbour to the south.
"Canada has borne a disproportionate burden in terms of the depreciation of the U.S. dollar. We've suffered a third of that burden with the European community, but we're only 33 million people and they are 300 million people or more," Flaherty said.
Meanwhile, Matthew Strauss, senior currency strategist at RBC Capital Markets, said factors such as investor uncertainty are influencing the decline of the dollar.
"We have seen not only the Canadian dollar but a number of other currencies, including the Australian dollar and the New Zealand dollar, under pressure," Strauss told The Canadian Press.
"And as we've seen in the past, with increased risk aversion, investors tend to sell cyclical currencies, or so-called commodity-based currencies, which includes the Canadian dollar."
Last Thursday, the Bank of Canada said that the country's economy has already begun to cool and would run out of steam by the end of the year.
''Although Canada's economic growth in the first half of 2007 was somewhat stronger than earlier projected, the projection for the second half of this year and for the first half of 2008 is somewhat weaker,'' the bank said.
''This reflects the downward revision to the growth projections in the U.S. gross domestic product, as well as the effect of the higher assumed level of the Canadian dollar.''
However, the central bank did predict that the economy would make a soft landing.
The bank said it expected the loonie to remain high and forecasted that it would hover at about 98 cents US for the next two years.
On the stock markets Monday, Toronto's S&P/TSX composite index rebounded from a loss of 100 points to close 41.94 points higher at 14,043.36.
On Wall Street, the Dow Jones industrials also rebounded from a triple-digit loss to close up 44.95 points at 13,566.97 after last week's sell off cut more than four per cent from the blue chip index.
The Nasdaq composite index was also positive, up 28.77 points to 2,753.93 and the S&P 500 index eased up 5.7 points to 1,506.33 after losing about four per cent on the week.
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JF
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Chuck in Ottawa
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Canadian retail $699.99
US retail is only $379.99
Now come on... a 100% mark up ?
Stuff like this doesn't collect dust in a warehouse, inventory moves all the time.
J
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Chris
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Doug
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That would, of course require business to sharpen its ways, workers to be competetive with their US conterparts, and of course all levels of government to also be sure their tax levels aren't significantly higher here than in the USA.
I take issue with the notion that the whole responsibility for competetive economies lies with retailers lowering prices.It look far more complicated than that.
Surely we can't expect the same prices if we also demand higher wages for ourselves and higher taxes on business.
Ray Pereira
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Ray Pereira
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stephen
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QT
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Mike
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It is not the retailer's responsiblity to give you a fair exchange rate. It costs the retailer money to exchange the currency. All yo uhave to do is exchange your money before you go to the States to get the best exchange rate. If I was a retailer in the States I would charge an extremely unfair exchange rate to anyone dumb enough not to pay with Visa or exchange their money before going into the US.
C. B.
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The higher the CAD, the better/more machines manufacturers can buy. They should become more productive and ride the issue out.
Having a monopoly currency won't make your economy stronger.
J. D. Boyd
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Or is Dodge hedging in order to protect Ontario's struggling manufacturing sector who had no problem draining us dry when the dollar was lower.
Dodge, it's a nature/nurture thing. Let the chips fall where they may. Keep your thoughts to yourself.
Uwe Warkholdt
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With the rising Canadian dollar, I have seen prices in the grocery store rise and our fuel prices "still suck". One would expect as we import a lot of goods that our prices to come down. But guess again. Perhaps greed is still raising its ugly head.
"Nuf said".
David
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EB
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Terry N
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I used to work as a shipper/receiver for a major Canadian retailer. If a product was manufactured in Seattle and destined to arrive in Vancouver (3 hours away), it had to be shipped through Toronto (on the other side of the country). Why? The company had its reasons. Did the reasons make sense? That's debatable. Did the extra shipping cost show up in the price? Yes, but the profit-margins upon which the company insisted were an even bigger factor in the price -- the markup on clothing in particular was usually double. Head office executives were getting rich quite quickly, I assure you, while customers were suffering deep bites every which way they turned, for products that were trendy, but not at all durable ... and we never had your size even though we stocked $12 million inventories in our stores (but we were always happy to sell you the wrong size, or convince you to buy something other than what you wanted). By the way, the company had bought up much of its competition.
Does capitalism work the way it should in theory? Not sure, but I imagine factors *other* *than* *theory* will be acting forcefully to drive down Canadian pricing over the next while (Mr. Russel). My coworkers & I used to laugh heartily at the stupidity of our employer (with regards to astronomical inefficiencies) -- but it's not so funny that Canadian consumers pay for that incompetence (from a company that has chosen the strategy of systematically eliminating all of its competition).
Julius - Regina, Saskatchewan
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Since you’re such an aficionado of the USA over Canada then perhaps you SHOULD move there – or if you like the concept of the 51 State move to Alberta which is practically just that.
-- and no we should not attempt to copy the "EU -Euro"
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What About cars made in ON and you can buy them 10k less in MI or NY?
And to rest my case, if the situation is reversed and our dollar is the one dropping you will see the price increase in less than 24 hours. We all remember the 1USD to 1.5 CAD in the 2000/2001 and we sow how the prices jumped.
JWB
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One dollar north to south - the "Big MAC"
dollar? (Mexican American, Canadian):)
Terry St. Denis
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T. St. Denis
david
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My response: When you factor in the shipping/freight costs it is a bad thing because that drives our export prices up and leaves export markets at a further disadvantage. Bottom line a "low" Canadian dollar is good for Canada. Look for a job while you're in the US shopping for products because this county "Canada" is headed for trouble.
WB
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I don't know about you, but I'd rather operate from a position of financial strength; and that's what we have right now.
What better way to show our national identity than to prove that our fortunes aren't as closely tied to the U.S. as most people would make it seem?
happy_voter
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Ian
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M-Y
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Gary B
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Mike C.
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Your argument has some merit, but very little. The fact that we are smaller in population than the US was already factored into prices before the rise of our dollar.
Example: Let's say, before the rise of our dollar we paid $15 for an item compared to $10 for the same item in teh US. $1.50 was related to your argument of supply and demand and $3.50 was related to our weak dollar. Well now the dollar is at parity and the problem is that we are still paying $15 when we should be paying $11.50 for that $10 item in the US.
What consumers want are fair prices compared to the US, not the same prices. Of course, we are going to pay a little more, but it shouldn't be 10 - 25% more.
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Richard
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This isn't just now - it has always been like this. From gas to groceries, cars, building materials, almost everything I can think of. This is made more apparent with our dollar value inflated.
Yes, we are taxes to the bones. And yes it hurts. We don't have as much disposable income as our American counterparts directly because of this. So we suffer domestically and internationally.
Problem#1 is: we have way few too many people to compete with almost any major economy out there.
Problem#2 is: it is too expensive to support a large family anymore or a family at all.
Dan
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Ron
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The only possible solution is to become the 51st state to take better advantage of lower pricing south of the border. As long as we get to keep hockey and healthcare it's a win, win situation right?
Since this will never happen retailers and manufacturers have to smarten up and price more fairly in the Canadian market, until then my money will continue to head south. I may be Canadian but I'm not willing to pay more because of it.
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Brian M
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Our manufactoring and small businesses will suffer dearly to the strong dollar. Canada exports 85% of its exports to the States. Which means we aren't a cheaper market for the States now and other markets will become more enticing to our American friends.
If we hovered around the 90 cent mark that would be great.
Andre Gatineau
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Did you ever see how fast the price of fans and ACs go up when they forecast a heat wave ?
Like gas, when it goes up, it skyrockets, when it's time to go down, it floats down.
Andrew Russell
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It's called SUPPLY AND DEMAND. We are 1/10.....1/10 of the American population!! Do you not wonder and/or think about how that would impact purchasing orders???? Order less, pay more....order more, pay less. Soooooo, do the basic math, and you get it...right?
I am so sick of hearing all these Canadians who think retailers should suddenly slash prices at the registers to meet their uneducated needs. It's bad for business when you have the uneducated masses ranting on a subject they no little, or even worse, nothing about.
Roger T
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Jerry
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Perhaps while cross border shopping one should look for employment for themselves and their children because there may not be much left here in Canada.
Chris R
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It's bad enough knowing that we earn less and get taxed more than our American neighbours, but to think that we have to pay more for the same goods and services is damned insulting.
I think it’s time to revisit NAFTA with a view to looking at EU style integration. The Europeans are now starting to see prices for goods and services converge with their single market and currency approach. It makes complete sense.
Gen. Lee Wright
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Adapt, adjust, or die; that's what all companies do.
Mark
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Oil prices are tracked in US$, so it only makes sense that they increase if the US$ declines. The entire world uses Oil - not just the US. The rise of the price of oil in CDN$, is not nearly as dramatic.
Just because oil is not nessesarily being priced in US$, does not mean the dollar will crumble. The Central Bank will have to monitor the money supply and reduce it if nessesary. That is the beauty (and danger) of the fractional banking system!
John P
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stephen
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Stan Kruger
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Canada being the top oil exporter to the U.S. is not a factor,nor is the rest of the commodities market,nor the fact that our country has a political stability not matched by many countries.
But being part of the great unwashed masses what do we really know about the world of monetary policy.
What is astounding to me is why our dollar is not at parity with the Euro.
Brian Timothy
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Stephen
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