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Date: Thu. Dec. 8 2011 11:12 PM ET

The federal government's hiring of a third-party auditor to pore over the books in Attawapiskat will cost $1,300 each day in salary -- money that will come out of the impoverished First Nation's already tangled finances.

The manager will continue to audit band finances until the end of June, meaning the total contract for accounting will cost the community $180,000.

NDP MP Charlie Angus decried the decision in Parliament on Thursday, accusing the government of mishandling the file and further punishing the people of Attawaspikat at a time when the community needs blankets and heaters.

"How in God's name is that value-for-money?" asked Angus, who is the local MP for the remote, northern Ontario village.

Responding, Aboriginal Affairs Minister John Duncan again repeated that the federal government has invested $90 million in Attawaspikat since 2006, with disappointing results.

"It's clear that significant investments in the community have not resulted in advancing the standard of living of the residents," said Duncan, adding that the government must remain accountable to taxpayers.

Duncan noted that the government is taking "concrete action" to ensure that the community is prepared for the long winter, adding: "We are determined to get results for First Nations."

But an expert on indigenous affairs and a former legal councillor said that third-party management is a common political tool used by the federal government.

"And of course for First Nations, that third-party management is known as a budgetary death sentence," said Pamela Palmater, who is the head of Ryerson University's Centre of Indigenous Governance.

"You don't just one day suddenly put someone in third-party, it's something that's worked on with the First Nation. It's clearly for political reasons," she told CTV's Power Play.

"And of course the band pays the tab, so whether or not the third-party is doing a good job, they have to pay that amount and it's not going towards building houses, it's not providing food, water, sewers."

More troubling is that many contractors get nervous they won't be paid, since funding could dry up.

"So then they start putting locks on houses that are almost made, to make sure they're getting paid."

While the known costs for the auditor are $1,300 daily, that sum could rise significantly once travel and other expenses are factored in, said Grand Chief David Harper, of Manitoba Keewatinowi Okimakanak. In fact, Harper suggested that the final tab could be about $300,000.

He said the purpose of third-party management is focused on correcting issues like proper housing or infrastructure, but simply to balance the books for Indian Affairs.

Meanwhile, thousands of people in the community still lack running water.

"Third-party management is not there to bring in resources like more housing," he said.

But Prime Minister Stephen Harper has defended the auditor and the fees paid out, and he added that the check-up is needed to ensure that tax money isn't going to waste.

"We're investing ... additional hundreds of thousands of dollars in emergency services to make sure people are being taken care of," Harper said.

"The people of that community and the wider taxpayers of this country have an absolute right to ensure that that money is being used and being used effectively, and that is what we are doing."

With a report from The Canadian Press

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ts'elxweltxw
said

monies that are aloted to indians is not tax money, it is money owed to them from the 40/60 agreement. Queen proclomation and Lord Dufferin. Read it. It is owed to the indians as the land had not been sold. There is not bill of sale, no blue ink signature of land sold. They where there first and need to be compensated. Where is that diamond mine situated on. The status card gurantees monies be status card, medical, housing, education, etc. It is not tax money.


Retired 2005
said

How about the government start auditing the books from the right end for a change. Start with the government department and trace every dollar that was ear marked for this reserve. This would give them a better idea of exactly how much made it to the reserve. But right now get the damned houses up so these people are warm and have a fighting chance against the weather.


Moira
said

"Indians pay no taxes.". I grew up with this, believed it right up until, in my 30's, I asked someone who is First Nations, and he explained how it works. And I verified it by checking the government website. NATIVE CANADIANS PAY TAXES. If you live on a reserve and have a status card, you don't pay taxes on anything you buy on the reserve, or on income earned working a job that occurs on the reserve. This would be a very small percentage of First Nations people. But I bet almost anyone reading this qualifies for SOME kind of tax exemption, they exist for all parts of our society. Let's stop spreading this hurtful Canadian myth!


Art
said

You would think the people of the reserve would want an outside auditor or adviser to look into their band finances. I know if my town council had questionable budget shortfalls , I'd want an outside opinion. Doesn't make sense , either the federal money is being mishandled OR they need professional assistance and perhaps a housing plan. Either way you would think the band members, especially those living in shacks would want answers not to mention Canadian taxpayers.


OneidaTaxPayer
said

Some of thse comments just boggle my mind. Before making anymore stupid and uninformed statements, read the Indian Act and learn how things really work. There is corruption on reserves, just like there is in al levels of "white" government. Open your eyes. Other then kneejerk reactions, which I see all the time whenever there is an Aboriginal issue in the news, become educated on the past and present situations of the First Nations people of Canada. Take your uneducated and uninformed minds to a library or even online or go to a reserve and meet the people and see for yourself. Otherwise shutt up and pay your rent (taxes) like everyone else, inlcuding the over 60% of First Nations people that live off reserve.


Deb
said

I am so glad that people here are standing up for our native people. This is our own third world right in our own back yards. We all boast of being Canadian and how great this country is, why don’t you ask these poor people how great it is. No more audit reports, no more fighting who’s going to do what ,...now is the time to get this fixed before more people suffer and die. When I get home at night Im happy Im Canadian in my nice warm house, with food on my table and a washroom that works. These are basic human rights not million dollar mansions that these human beings want. How hard can that be!!!! opps obviously very hard for the government minister who won’t even leave Ottawa to get a firsthand look. COME ON THIS IS A DISGRACE


Redneck Albertan
said

You can spew rhetoric jump up and down, call each side names, whatever. The fact remains that this situation should never have come to being if people had acted responsibly in the first place. Roof leaks or you see mold? Fix it. Can't fix it? Report it and ask for it to be fixed. No one will fix it? Call around and make noise until it is fixed. That is what even somewhat responsible people do. I blame all the parties involved but especially those closest to the disaster. Third party management may not be even close to ideal, but look at what the status quo has delivered thus far.


Jim Steeves
said

Personally, I am sick and tired of my tax dollars going to support Indians on reserves. It is time to burn treaties and the Indian act. We are no more responsible for what happened to them years ago than we are of what happened to the Acadians. Stop living in the past, get over it, move on. I work to support my family, not others. We need to get rid of reserves and start acting like one group of Canadians. Honestly, how long are we supposed to keep paying for things our ancestors did to their ancestors??

am I still here
said

And now all of you folks who like to take it out on the natives know what really happens to the money. I used to work for Indian Affairs out on the West Coast - all of our salaries were charged to the various projects. Say for a water project for the reserve north of Tofino- we charged all our time, expenses to the project - sometimes when they were done the projects were in the hole big time. So get this straight all you angry people - the government sucks it dry and then blames someone else for the problems. Don't ya just love it


tionne
said

This is one of the main reasons why the our indigenous communities are facing the issues they are. Seriously now, Canadian government. How do you justify making a community that is already struggling economically, socially, educationally, etc. to pay for their own financial assessment?!?! And at the cost of other educational necessities! Are you kidding me?!?! This is absurd. Honestly most of the issues that indigenous people face—if not all—are the direct result of years of systemic disenfranchisement of aboriginal peoples. And here we are once again trapping them in the same cycle to which Canada has already bound them to. This is such an oxymoron. The Canadian government should be ashamed of itself. Let the government explain to each and every Resident of this community why their needs will be denied and why they will continue to suffer. And then after that, let the government explain to each and every child/student who will be affected that his/her educational needs will continue to go unattended because of Canada’s disregard for its Aboriginal populations.


Bob in Chatham
said

He's no doubt a card carrying Conservative .. Hard to believe that the government doesn't have an accountant on their payroll, somewhere, that could spend a few weeks up there to find out where the money went.


norm
said

this ninety million over 5yrs is only ottawa's portion.when you look at their financial statements that are published on their website, you will see that their total revenue from all sources for year ending mar/2011 was actually 34 million and for year ending 2010 was 33 miliion. this is for a pop. of 2000. that's 17,000 for every man, woman, and child per year. where does all this money go? i supported a family of 4, paid for my house, educated my 2 sons thru univ. on a lot less than 68,000 dollars a year. google attawapiskat and see for yourself.


Kevin J.
said

HJ... show me were in Treaty 4 for example (covering most of southern Saskatchewan) there is a section outlining natives getting money from natural resources. There is no such section.


Ben
said

We ll kick another government aid off why don't you. If you don't want to play by the rules be prepared to suffer then consequences.


Daniel
said

Pardon my Text, but what the F# is the Government trying to accomplish by making these FNP's pay-up when they can't even put a proper roof over their head's or food on the table? The causing point of this problem is that they didn't even have sufficiant funds to begin with, so how could they even be expected to come-up with this sudden and unkind cost for this situation? Start-up the Beaver-Pelt Trade again? Come on now this was 50 years ago, it's time the Government open their eyes and take-up the task of fixing the problem permanently and not just apply a simple "Band"-Aid like last time.....


Steve T
said

Charge him $1.500 for housing!


wstrncehnehdeh in SK
said

Does anyone know about the sewer leak that has made a number of houses uninhabitable at Attawapiskat?


Jim McB
said

This would cost $400 K per year, a far cry from the $13 M that they pay for administration now! It is a bargain!


Kevin
said

The government should be paying for this consultant, not the dead broke band. No wonder they're kicking up a fuss. Still want to see their books though.


mouseinhay
said

To Kevin D: The government holds the money in trust. The only access the band has to funds is by making formal request, seeking approval through government channels, until approved by ministry and monies allocated.


Andre
said

It is amazing how some people here have a problem with paying an expert with many years of experience and education $1300 per day but say nothing when baseball players sign deals for $260M for 10 years. Who performs a more valuable service to society? The guy who has a chance to solve the problem of corruption, mismanagement and poverty for an entire band of people or the guy who is paid to hit a ball while spitting tobacco and scratching his privates?Sheesh!!!!


A Koster
said

@Pye, I don't really give 2 hoots over the pittance of an allowance that Attawapiskat gets. However, what I am really interested in is seeing the books for the federal government and how much of the diamond royalty revenue THEY received, the books of the Ontario government and their tracking of that $6.7 billion promised GDP growth from the mine, and finally to see the books of De Beers and see how much they sent the federal government, supposedly earmarked for development projects in Attawapiskat.


Gregory Wollf
said

All this talk about money, as if that were all that was at stake here. What about homes? What about the injustice of having a mining company's sewage backup contaminate the land and force an entire community to evacuate? How about we solve the problems and help the people! Or do we need to make sure their account is in order before we consider them human beings?


Prof Sine Curve
said

$1300 a day is actually a bargain. Remember, the band already has been paying paying someone of their own a big salary to do that job and look at all the millions that went missing. Paying an outside third party guy to do the job right isn't a loss to the band - it's a big gain overall.


Seeking Wolf
said

I have no problem with them (the band and chiefs) being held financially responsible for a change. Speaking as an aboriginal Canadian, it is time to move into the 21st century. Enough is enough.


Jack (Wpg)
said

$1300 a day??!! Most of us dont even make $1300 a week at a full time job, much less a government job.


JR-Northern,AB
said

I am aboriginal and I must admit that once the money is given to the band it is managed by the band. Maybe we should get over what our ancestors did and try to live the same as everyone else with out all the handouts. They seem to make us weak!


James
said

With the waste and corruption that are rampant on most reserves right across this country, I am astounded that people are complaining about a highly competent accountant from BDO receiving $1,300.00 per day to get this reserve's books in order. After all, joe oil rig supervisor in Alberta (with little or no education) makes that in a day to sleep at a drilling rig site and make sure everything goes according to plan.For those Canadians who have experiences with how band councils work, it is no surprise that there seems to be money to send council members and their relatives to seminars and meetings in exotic locations around the globe while "joe indian" lives in third world conditions on reserve. Our loyal opposition is doing a disservice to all canadians but mostly to aboriginals themselves by blaming the results of 150 years of misguided paternalism on the government of the day


wylie john
said

I for one am sick tired of being sick tired and I am sick tired of being held hostage for last 200 years...How is that some band's manage to be rich and prosper and other dont..seems to me that rich bands that are make it should be taking the other bands under their wings and showing them the way..If you look at the finiancial statements for this band NOTE the employee salaries and employee benefits...I would love to know what the employee benefits are..........sick and tired of being called a racist..it seems to me that racism is being reversed


Yogi
said

The government should bring these people to the city. Get them jobs to build modular homes while they are in the city. they will have a warm place to stay and they will be building their future homes. They can even get paid for working at these places. Maybe they will have some money left over and learn the trade.Just handing over money and providing homes for free does not solve anything. This problem will be back in roughly five years.


RJ in Halifax
said

Let's step back and apply some basic math to the audited financial statement for 2010. In this statement, there is no breakdown of individual wages paid to band councillors. There is only a one-liner for "salaries and banefits paid to employees", which is $11.2 miilion. If you take a basic annual salary and benefits package at $75,000, which is fairly representative of the working class across Canada, this equates to about 150 employees employed by the band.. I seriously doubt there is anywhere near this number of employees, so the individual salary package is no doubt significantly higher. Why has the chief and band councillors not come out and listed their individual wages? They could shut down a significant amount of debate if those numbers are reasonable. I guess they haven't done this because of the negative feedback that will likely come from obscene salaries paid to a handful of family members at the expense of the average tribal member.


Kevin in Alberta
said

34 million a year income by this band. That will buy approximately 170 houses at 200 thousand per house. Which is about 60 grand more than I paid to build mine.So please tell me again, why is there a crisis? More to the point, why is the NDP blaming the Federal Government?This is simply a case of poor management. Period, and these people want to govern themselves? Give me a break... a tax break!


Vicotria Bob
said

If you check out the hourly charge out rate of Professionals with appropriate credentials, I think you will find that $162.50 per hour for an 8 hour day is a bargain. The real question is whether he has the "credentials" and abilities to do the job.....which I suspect he does. I think taxpayers need an independent overseer to determine how our funds (in Millions of $$'s) are being spent.


wstrncehnehdeh in SK
said

I found a Facebook page about Attawapiskat. When looking at the pictures on the site I found reference to a sewer back up and saw pictures of a number of homes that were boarded up and claimed to be uninhabitable because of the sewer back up. I have heard no reporting about this sewer back up. You will have to do the search yourself because I know that CTVNews will not publish my comment if I include a link.


Peter
said

Bottom line is when you are given millions of taxpayers dollars you will be and should be held accountable. If you have spend this money responsibly and can still not afford proper housing and clean water, by all means you should be given more.


Vanc Guy
said

Take it out of that Chiefs salary. The FN were conquered by history - they need to move on and join Confederation.


Stella in Toronto
said

I was just looking at some of the pictures from this place. I find it disturbing to see 3 kids with no socks or slippers on in a room with tiles all partially ripped up from the floor, a blanket over the windows rather then curtains watching TV on a $1200.00 flat screen.Looking at these houses It is my belief that they actually do spend 250,000 dollars on a house, build a shack for 3,000 dollars and someone pockets the other 247,000 dollars.


HJ
said

Let's back up here... Had the Treaties been honored, that being sharing in the resources between Canada, Ontario and the First Nations, everyone would have had the piece of the pie, and there would be a sharing of the wealth. Canada and Ontario got their share and then some, but the First Nations did not get their share. If the sharing of the revenues from the resources took place, the First Nation communities would have built their infrastructure like everyone else as far as who was a part of the treaties... just saying.


MAE in Ontario
said

Ok I've read comments from people who don't know thw facts and just like to hit on the government. I ask you how is this a hardship for the band when the Government it sending 15 new prebuilt modular homes. Enough to house all those living in shacks and tents. If only 15 homes were needed why didn't the band build them. It would have only been 2 million out of the 90 million they were given. The money paid to this consultant seem exhorbitant but I ask you would you like to go into a hostile environment to work for peanuts. After all they did kick the other guy out. He will be wporking in isolation in a cold dark environment. I wouldn't do it for the amount offered. The more I see of this chief and her whining the more I think she has something to hide. If she didn't why try to hide the books? Why not open them up and say see we spent the money wisely we just didn't have enough if that were the case. No she's hiding something and thinks people are stupid enough not to see it.


CMQ
said

Funny how they do not want to pay out $1300 to someone off the reserve but will pay that and more to someone on the reserve to the point of the end result being poverty. Oh and please give me $150,000 (half of this guy's quote) and I'll build a nice house eh! And we wonder why non-natives are getting more than a little fed-up.


Jimmy in Edmonton
said

I feel for these people, as I'm sure almost all of us do. However 1,300 a day is STEEP!! That money certainly could be spent on other projects, but I don't think it's the Government's fault... clearly these people need better management of their grants from the Government.Nobody should ever go to sleep at night Cold or Hungry... however on the flip side of the coin, these people are CHOOSING to live this life. Whatever happened to "living off the land"? If they are up there and unable to sustain themselves, perhaps they need to move further South into the other reserves of the country. You can't have it both ways. I understand it's much colder up there than down here, they are there by their own choice. Should we the TAX PAYERS pay for their new homes? I don't like paying rent, I DO have a status card... Maybe I should move North and complain when I don't get a new FREE house...??That said, I do agree that if they need help from the Military, they should get it. As bitter as I am, nobody in our proud and free country should ever go without the Basic needs of a third world country.


Mystified in Victoria BC
said

It's quite clear that it's costing much more than $1,300.00 per day in mismanagement or possibly out right theft. Why do all the bleeding hearts want to stand in the way of a common sense solution ........... you can't fix a problem unless you locate the cause.We have seen this before the Band Hierarchy truly believes they are " entitled to their entitlements".


Mark J.
said

If $300,000 could easily pay for one house, then the money the Federal Government gave should've amounted to many new houses for the reserve. What did they do with the money? Until we know that, there's no sense giving the reserve millions more only to be squandered away by the elite of the reserve.


Stella in Toronto
said

Something else I don't understand fully is the salary expenditures. Seems to me many of these people could build their own homes.


NoContest
said

Why are we paying the First Nations people again? They have millions of acres of land and don't have to pay taxes and receive money from working Canadians. How much time has to pass before they stop getting special treatment? They're lucky they're in Canada/US as every other country in the world has indigenous peoples that have simply been annexed (sadly) or simply made part of the once conquering culture. Who does better in life; the person that is given constant hand outs or the person that takes responsibility for themselves and makes ends meet on their own accord? We don't pay our black brothers and sisters a special stipend for historical happenings so why our native brothers. We're not doing the Native community any favours by keeping them down in this fashion. It amazes me that the government thinks it's alright to spend my money in this fashion. Think to the future, are we going to be paying Native people an allowance in 2100 for something that took place hundreds of years ago? No, of course not, so why does it make sense now. This codling has created weakness in a once fiercely proud people.


Stella in Toronto
said

Well just glancing over their financial records, I see a surplus of over 61 million dollars for the fiscal year. That's 244 houses right there sitting in the bank. I also see some pretty steep expenditures (perhaps a skim), nor do I see income from the deal they have with the mining company (though I didn't look in depth at the financials.It seem obvious to me that the band themselves brought on this so called state of emergency with poor planing.


james
said

why is the other so called first nations not helping out. they say the are a nation but operate individually. wine wine wine thats all they can do never do anything them selves all the money in the world will never help. they want they get with the race cry. show me the money chief oh its in vegas thieves.


Jkuz
said

Ok, I don't know all the facts of this issue, and I sympathize for the people on the reserve with these poor living conditions. Additionally, i agree there definitely needs to be acccountability. BUT $1,300 A DAY for this theif of a consultant! I would have sent that person packing too. How dare they have the audacity to charge that ridiculous amount. They make more in a day than I make in two weeks!! When I see numbers like that, then I realize whats wrong with our society. People are paid too much for too little. Bring back the real meaning of "making an honest living"


M
said

What do the aboriginals want??????

They have to make some serious choices and then carry them through.

- If they want to be left alone to preserve their traditional ways then live in remote locations, the resources are all there. Timber, Game animals. etc. (This should be at no cost to the tax payer)

- As a collective, stop the substance abuse and violence in their OWN communities. Demand better from themselves and their OWN people.

- Educate their young people.


- Stop thinking the Government of Canada and tax payer money will solve this deep rooted problem.


The solution lies within the aboriginal people themselves and Nothing will change until they realize that!!!!


Jo
said

This band gets millions per year from the DeBoers diamond mine on their land. They always fail to mention this when they're pleading hardship.


Jim in Ottawa
said

You know: they would not have had to pay Mr. Marion anything per day if they hadn't wasted away over $90 million in federal government funds over the past 5 years. I as a taxpayer am far more furious about that.


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

@ CTV: The band did NOT have revenues of $17M, it had revenues of $34M for fiscal 2011, as per the consolidated financial statements for Attawapiskat, which are available online. Indian and Northern Affairs Canada contributed $17M, and the community received roughly $17M from other sources. Thanks.


George V.
said

The third party private consultant was sent packing from the reservation last Monday, as he was not welcome there. This consultant is trying to make sense of what has happened on the reservation, where did the money go, who has the money , where was it spent, was it spent according to budgets. Where is the most pressing need for money to be spent, is it housing with winter coming on, is it food is it education. These are all tough questions and conditions. Working in an hostile , unco-operative environment with questionable book keeping entries to check out will take a great deal of time.This person charging us $1,300.00 per day I feel is more than fair. For once since this whole episode has started I feel we are getting our monies worth.


wowlites
said

Just go to attawapiskat.org the bands site and all the financials are public. Just see the large amount of monies this village of 2000 and the band administrators and managers get, I promise it will make you sick. And now multiply that by every band there is in the country. Remember that bthese people do not pay taxes of any sort and that you and I will have to work the rest of our days to support these First Nations... I agree something must be done to change this trend of handouts, we have paid long enough. One Grand Chief says they may engage in "civil disobedience" well maybe they should so the rest of the country could also engage in civil disobedience against these First Nations. There is a diamond mine right there GET JOBS AND PAY TAXES FOR CRYING OUT LOUD be a part of the solution not the problem which in turn becomes the rest of the countries problem.


TC
said

If "the government's own assessments say the third-party management system is not cost-effective.", then what could a private-sector consultant at $1,300 a day achieve? We all already knew the answer ... NOTHING!!!


norchic
said

Tonnes of people in the north live in small cabins with old wood stoves, truck in their own water, and use outhouses.... even in -40C. There is such a thing as outhouses heated with wood stoves. It's not hard to do and they don't consider it a hardship. In fact, these days, living off the grid is the thing to do. MUST everyone live in fancy houses? And do you feel sorry for us all if we don't? It's not so hard to get set up with a warm place to live.... especially if the community would WORK together to do it..... and if some of that missing money would show up. And you can buy USED wood stoves. The rest of us do it.... or does the band always have to buy new stuff?


Judy
said

that wage is absolutely unreasonable when the gov't has said that the money has been spend incorrectly. They certainly aren't helping by making $474,500 per year. Perhaps if they had paid each member of the tribe even half that amount the condition wouldn't be so desperate now.


jon rotten
said

If they had to pay for their homes rather that geting them free then maybe they would not rip out the 2 x4s and burn them for fire wood


JDF _Calgary
said

The numbers are out. This Native Community operates with a surplus every year and has money in the Bank. Charlie Angus and the NDP owe the Canadian people an apology. The Chief, Council and peoples of Attawapiskat are socially, morally and intellectually bankrupt. WHERE IS ONTARIO CHILD AND FAMILY SERVICES?


BrainBox
said

Let me see a big accounting firm sends one of their Joe Boys to tell everyone what they already know - there's no dough - oh sorry no coin. The Feds dance & prance around & do absolutely nothing. Tell me why the Feds could not go in & build the homes & water systems required - then ensure those using them had the means to maintain the same. This is not Rocket Science.


wow
said

wow i come from a reserve in new brunswick and we dont get anywhere near millions of dollars the money we have we work for we dont cry about it and our homes are no wheres near the shape of there houses and they got 90 millionfrom the government and 10 million from debeers minning this year jesus there is no reason this people should be using a bucket for a bathroom and i agree with the government about them being accountable they failed there people big time but the chief looks like she lives well


Jazz
said

Welcome to 2011 people. This is not the 1600's, 1700's, 1800's or 1900's so stop playing the victim and race cards. Write up a new 'treaty' stating that ALL CANADIANS have the same rights and abolish the reserves. Help these people by getting them out from under incompetent tribal chiefs and their nonsense.


Jill
said

at ANGRY,I totally agree with you but we have enabled them. While some bands albeit very few, have done extremely well for themselves through hard work and wise investments, the majority choose to live off the avails of others while living in squaller, mismanaged communities all the while blaming the white mane - we can thank our forefathers for the mess we have - I wish the government would nullify all old antiquated treaties. It would come at a significant cost but certainly would be cheaper in the long run.


Get Real
said

Hey, it is called human greed!! I pay my taxes, huge income taxes, more than half a million to the government (over my lifetime so far). So they can pay something once in a while. Hey, I agree they need to be taken care of though, but they obviously can't manage what they get. Good luck to them and hope for a resolution soon.


Need to know
said

In order to make any sense of this issue, we ( all Canadians ) must know the current ;Administrative Costs'of this Band. What are the salaries & allowances paid to the Chief, ,former Chief and the Band Councillors to run a community of 2000 people? Until that is revealed, little sympathy will be generated . Unfortunately, unless the community itself starts asking these questions, the dommunity will suffer under corrupt unaccountable media-seeking unelected Band ( & First Nations) leaders. ACCOUNTABILITY NOW


JIM
said

so, let me get this straight, the Conservative government is unhappy because they think the money was used for something else and have no paper trail...hmmmmwhy does this sound familiar


Kevin D.
said

Check out the website where the reserve has posted it's financial statements. Why are they asking for more money when they have over $58 million in trust accounts? That will pay for more 200 houses. I can understand the concept of keeping some money back in a rainy fund account but isn't this exactly what a rainy fund account is for?


Ferdinand
said

No more new monies should be allocated to Attawapiskat First Nations until a complete audit is done. In the interm the military can land their Hercules aircraft up the coast to transport provisions....this is a must.Monies used by First Nations to privatize a flight to Ottawa at a cost of $9000 shows us that a audit is needed


John
said

No-one said they are in the cold. They said thatsome of the houses are in very bad shape and some were living in tents. True, its not good but to just throw hugh amounts of money (and pay ludicrous money for an acct) is rediculous. Find out why there are so many on council, chief,vice chief etc, if they are all related, what their wages are and move on. Just gining them a bunch of $280,000 homes that they want is not the answer. What in hell are they doing there if there is no work and if they are hunting and trapping for a living, what is wrong with a tent? Move them to a new community where there is work for them and get them accomadations like a lot of us for $100,000. Unless they want to live where cost of living is high like TO, Vancouver etc. Still cheaper than they claim it is costig them. By the way, show us the chief and councillors houses


steve
said

1300.00 bucks a day. must be a conservative sympathizing accountant to get paid that much. and i thought the chief of the reserve was a rip off artist.


angry
said

I am born and raised here in Canada and as a veteren I put my life on the line and i get no monies from the goverenment in the amounts I have been reading about, I see more native peoples getting more and doing less, Why should we give them anything if they refuse to help themselves ..


ArcticBliss
said

The numbers ARE out there. The Band must submit multiple audited financial reports to INAC / AANDC detailing exactly how they are spending the money. They do that and they post their audited statements, which include salaries to council members.They also must request permission to spend the money they get, even after they've received it. That's right, the feds WERE told how that money was going to get spent.Remember, that they have to pay for a gazillion things we take for granted out of the money that they receive, not just salaries and housing. Go educate yourselves on the Indian act, for Canada's sake and the sake of these First Nations!


GCB Oromocto
said

No one is worht $1,300 per day plust expenses. What is the Government thinking - there are families living on less thatn$10,000 per year. Also Chiefs and Councillors are overpaid. Salaries should be set as is in the Public Sector . Then there would be funds for housing, health and education.


Wow
said

I can tell them how to turn their community into one of the best in Canada with 90 million dollars. Everyone would have a nice house, paved streets, and plumbing. I'll do it for $500.00 a day. Heck, even $250.00. This is a little obscene.


Tired of it
said

These "people" are our brothers and sisters.(canadians) Get them into safe and warm housing, and then send the councillors and chief to court. Disclose all monies spent, clean house, and make the best changes for our taxpayers dollars. Just help them already.


DCI
said

Funny how they had no money, and now can pay for services to a person to run their finances.hmmmmmmm strange,hey? Paul Martin... you should stay retired. you were a discrace as PM. You kept your money out of Canada. So keep your pie hole shut!!! You have no right to say anything. I hope that the missing money is found, and some tribe leaders brought up on charges.the band leaders have been living in luxury and the people they are to be taking care of have lived in poverty. Self government, hey....there are a lot of Canadians going without in this country. Maybe give us some money too.I'm laid off just before Christmas. Now i must find a new job to feed my family. Why don't these people get a job and stop sitting around waiting for their welfare cheque.


gar
said

When will the media in this country print the Canadian Taxpayers disclosure of the audited tax trecords of these big spending Chiefs and council : Example : Reserve in Nova Scotia with 344 members chiefs Pay and allowances along with his expenses in one year was over 900,000 dollars. Come on media be fair these Chiefs are stealing their tribes blind and you turn a blind eye!!!!


CAT
said

Bill - If you want to find out how their money was spent, why don't you review the financial statements posted on the Attawapiskat website?


Sicofit
said

300K will build one nice house eh?Well I guess it would. Now anybody that has to pay a mortgage of about the same for both the house and the land it sits on can now really understand that these people have no clue. And they want to control the cash flow?


Just Saying - Ottawa
said

Read in an Ottawa paper that there is the Chief, The Former Chief, an Acting Chief and 19 Band Members who are on the payroll. One has to think that they need help to see how all this money should be managed. Get the warm trailers to these people in need and whatever else to be safe and out of the cold. There needs to be something done NOW...


dante
said

Right on Bill..


BB in B.C.
said

Mamas don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys.....let them be accountants. The pay rate is awesome.


Richard
said

That is pretty crazy for a salary comon guys, how much per day?


Raj
said

They have been self governing have they not.They get the money, they spend it on zambonis They blew their budget, and on what.Certainly not on that reserve The co manger was no help, well except to Spence and now we have a former PM tell us its all about education when for umpteen years his government did nothingFrankly,. I am tired of hearing about them/I walked past a homeless man last night sleeping outdoors


RJ in Halifax
said

In Nova Scotia, it was discovered that a band of less than 300 were paying their chief in excess of $250,000 annually as well as other councillors getting six figure salaries. Not once have I seen any report on the salaries paid to the chief or other councillors here. I have heard that there are 19 councillors representing 1800 band members. Come next year, Halifax will have 16 councillors representing 400,000 individuals. Why is no one asking the chief and councillors to announce their salaries? Perhaps, if they are like the Nova Scotia band, they could find the $180,000 consultant's fee in their own payroll without having any negative affect on their b and members. Much of the adversarial discussions could be laid to rest with the simple disclosure of band council salaries.


Iam
said

Unbelievable...Canada = Disgrace, and a world class embarrassment where indigenous policies and treatment are concerned. Hell, and just about every other damn thing these days.


BILL
said

Right now who cares what it costs! Just get it done and figure out what is happening with the money that they received. Once that is sorted out you won't need to pay that amount. It needs to be done, just accept it, cut your losses and move forward!


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